Lately I've had a high success rate with closing(banged 2 different girls this week, both within 2-3 hrs of the match) by discerning which girls are DTF from their pics/bio. It's not 100% accurate, but it's pretty fucking spot on. Let's say I get matched with a chick that has multiple tattoos and a nose ring, I'll open her more aggressively and sexualize the conversation more quickly as well.

(07-11-2014 11:59 AM)kaotic Wrote:  I'll disagree with you on this, it's a false confident booster. Reason being, you get matched. You don't get rejected (maybe blocked or ignored), insulted, laughed at, etc - you NEED to experience that in real life in order to get better at game.

It's all possible that these girls you match with on Tinder would reject you in real life given the right and/or wrong set of circumstances. Dating Apps should be secondary passive pussy streams compared to approaching and gaming in person.

I agree it should be secondary. And I treat it as such. But I also use it to build confidence for real life interactions.

On a purely physical level, they found me attractive enough to swipe right. Which is, given how competitive we know OLD to be, pretty good. A woman that I find physically attractive, saw my profile, said "hmmm, he seems cute," and swiped right. That means she's at least tinkering with the idea of fucking me.

As far as I see it, there are a lot of things that can go wrong after a match, but most of it is logistics, meaning you're busy when she's free or vice versa and you can't meet up soon enough, so she loses interest. Or she's not how she appeared online, you eject. Things like that. But most success stories I've read here involve a guy running don't fuck it up game, and ends up with a SNL or a lay very soon after the first date.

So the way I see it is this:

1.) If girls that I find highly attractive are swiping right on me in the competitive OLD world, there's sure to be a few out there in real life who I could approach with success.

2.) Tinder builds abundance mentality. If I approach a girl in real life and get blown out, I still have Tinder to fall back on. That knowledge that you have other means of getting dates builds inner game and gives you the mindset to approach women because even if you fail, you still have other options.

(07-11-2014 10:08 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  Lately I've had a high success rate with closing(banged 2 different girls this week, both within 2-3 hrs of the match) by discerning which girls are DTF from their pics/bio. It's not 100% accurate, but it's pretty fucking spot on. Let's say I get matched with a chick that has multiple tattoos and a nose ring, I'll open her more aggressively and sexualize the conversation more quickly as well.

G_E, I'd like to hear some more about this

Sure. The first one had a selfie where she was in a towel and her cleavage was on full exposure. She also had a tattoo on her neck and all signs were yelling major slut so I opened her up with: "you know, your 1st pic is very seductive"

her: haha how so?
Me: well you've successfully made me want to fuck you..
Her: lol omg you're pretty blunt

After she said 'lol', I figured she was a major slut since most girls would've called me a creep or unmatched. I just pushed for a meet and she turned out to be a super pot head so we went back to my place and smoked some joints. Banged her and then she left.

#2 actually messaged me first. She wasn't really attractive(6.5 at best) but she passed my boner test so she was at least fuckable. We also had a mutual friend so I asked said mutual friend about her and he said that she was pretty easy so I baited her with "I'm leaving for canada tomorrow, but I'm free tonight. Let's get some drinks later" she bought it, I met up with her and she gave me a blow job in her car. When I got home I unmatched her because I didn't want her to find out that I lied.

Perhaps it was luck but the one thing both of those girls had in common were their pics. You could almost tell that they were DTF. It's like you either notice it or you don't.

Just deleted my account tonight. I've probably gotten 2 matches in 2 weeks when usually it was 4-5 per day. Something is either wrong with the app or my well dried up and I need to reset.

What do you guys think of this theory of the tinder algorithm?

http://www.quora.com/Tinder-app/How-does...rithm-work

tl;dr it might be better to not speed-swipe right because when you swipe right on a hot girl you get put at the back of her 'queue' of people who said yes to her (everyone). Whereas if you haven't rated her then you might get randomly assigned to her series of matches. Therefore it might be better to only swipe for matches every few days or something.

I don't know if my logic is sound here though, can anyone contribute?

I know Special1 came up with this idea back on page 50, but I couldn't figure out his strategy.

Isn't that just speculation though? I would base a strategy on pie conjecture.

(07-13-2014 03:07 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Isn't that just speculation though? I would base a strategy on pie conjecture.

A lot of it is pure speculation, but I think the 'death queue' theory is a reasonable assumption. I've found it to be true that if I don't swipe for a few days then go back, I'll instantly get matches every few swipes, then less and less and finally none for a long time. Some of the swipes will match in the days that follow, but a hot girl in a big city would accumulate hundreds of yes swipes per day.

I don't know if the tradeoff in matches between only swiping occasionally and speed swiping a lot would be worth it though. Special1 seemed to think he had a good strategy down (more matches, hotter girls), but I'm confused as to what his actual strategy was.

So I'm not the only one having problems. I was thriving just three weeks ago and this week, or the past 10 days I should say -- 3 total matches. After hundreds, possibly thousands of swipe throughs. I said before, even if I was all of a sudden unattractive to these girls (pics never changed), there would have to be a few more matches than that, just from simple odds or even girls swiping right on me by accident (I've done that to some girls) -- 3 matches in 10 days, in a major city is absolutely unacceptable. I've deleted my account and will probably give it a week or so to see if that bullshit was an anomaly or what the fuck.

In the meantime, my belief is that the first few days are the hottest. Maybe since Tinder knows that this is just a hookup app, they expect you to get matches the first few days, focus on those matches, and move on. You get tossed to the back of the line after that. There's no other way to explain why, like clockwork, I go from double figure matches the first two days (10-15 a day) and then absolutely nothing the rest of the week.

Something's up.

If you wait a few days, Tinder seems to queue your matches so that when you open the app and swipe, you get matched with some chicas immediately.

Reinstalling the app, though, always does wonders. I'm curious to know what percentage of girls (18-22) isn't on Tinder.

After breaking my flip phone while masturbating I now have a smartphone.


I'm using Photoshop for this shit. These hoes aint matching me.

I've been shopping around for responses to shit tests on tinder.

Me: Spit or swallow?

Her: Valid question! gargle

Me: that's my kind of answer, but are you my kind of girl?

Her: How will we find out

Me: only one way to find out. Message me your number.

Her: what would sending you my number prove?

me: *yawn.*

her: Suckmydick#

me: #Nexxt

Anyway I could have turned this one around? Lol

The only girl I met up with who I asked "Spit or swallow?" to responded with, "Gargle"

My conversation was pretty similar to yours.

When girls say something like, "What would sending you my # do?" I usually respond with, "I schedule my dates via phone call. Too classy for you?" And often they're like, "Fair enough. Here it is _____"

I would use *Yawn* if she tests you more than once because there are more chicks and she's not interested.

thanks brother

No problem, man. I'm sure others on this thread will have some solid input too.

(07-13-2014 02:33 AM)Arturo Belano Wrote:  What do you guys think of this theory of the tinder algorithm?

http://www.quora.com/Tinder-app/How-does...rithm-work

tl;dr it might be better to not speed-swipe right because when you swipe right on a hot girl you get put at the back of her 'queue' of people who said yes to her (everyone). Whereas if you haven't rated her then you might get randomly assigned to her series of matches. Therefore it might be better to only swipe for matches every few days or something.

I don't know if my logic is sound here though, can anyone contribute?

I know Special1 came up with this idea back on page 50, but I couldn't figure out his strategy.

Interesting article. Makes some sense and could explain the lack of matching issues Mr X and others report. I would also propose the possibility that if you are frequently blocked the app could label you as a troll and stop giving you matches, in which case the apocalypse openers might not be the best course of action without the game and pics to back it up. A little more info on the algorithm in this link from the comments - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carrie-yur...87420.html

Guys who are having issues with no matches, what's your strategy? Are you doing the swipe right all the time and filter later? Go to opener an apocalypse style "girl next door" etc? Post up and we might get some insight into behind the scenes operation.

Another possibility is simply that when you first sign up you're matched with other new users, ie chicks without a massive backlog. I haven't been using this app as much lately and the last time I was on I got ~20 matches straight before I stopped swiping and messaged some of them. They were mainly in cities I had been in previously, not even nearby - the app doesn't tell you correct distance away until after you match, just says they're "whatever the max distance you're set at is" miles away. From my perspective the backlog is a little irritating since they're not nearby and I have to go through each match individually after the fact to determine how many miles away they actually are. I imagine the hotties in cities could swipe for days and still have a backlog in the thousands unless the app sets some limit and then they just don't show up until they swipe the backlog down.

Since keeping chicks on slow burn fails so easily on Tinder it does no good having 20 matches in some city 3 hours away even if you'll be back there in 3 months. I sometimes get the number anyway but in the past these situations have usually flaked on me so don't really want to waste time in interactions with that when I could be meeting up with someone actually in the area. On the other hand I hate to just ignore some hottie who matches me and might be a non-flake next month...

When you guys reinstall the app do you lose all previous matches? Do you lose the backlog and match with girls actually in the area?

FTR, my strategy changes depending on work but since I've been travelling infrequently lately I have been an infrequent swiper - load up the app when I'm going to be in a new town for more than a couple days and swipe a few times to let them know I'm there. Maybe a few dozen swipes the first few evenings until I get some quality matches to work with. I screen before swiping. Occasionally open the app to do a DHV "moment" in some new town without swiping at all. More often than not will use a (hopefully clever) original opener based on her pics or intro, occasionally sexual, rarely apocalypse. Never yet had any issues with getting matches. I wonder if it also matches you with non-backlogged girls when you're new to an area?

Got Tinder today. Only person I've matched with is a prostitute. My pictures are of me suited, me suited, me looking cool with a tiger, and me looking cool on a camel.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong?

How many swipes is normal before a match? To be fair I've probably swiped under 40 so far.

(07-13-2014 11:33 AM)HankRearden Wrote:  Got Tinder today. Only person I've matched with is a prostitute. My pictures are of me suited, me suited, me looking cool with a tiger, and me looking cool on a camel.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong?

How many swipes is normal before a match? To be fair I've probably swiped under 40 so far.

Curious, was the tiger thing an ironic nod to the massive amount of "guys with tiger" photos on Tinder, or meant in seriousness? A girl I banged off Tinder the other week was telling me how she thought it was "lame how many guys thought they were badass when they're posing next to some tiger who was clearly just fed a bowl of tranquilizer". So that might not be a great idea unless you have some caption about the "obligatory tiger pic", even then I'd skip it, overdone, IMO. There's even a tumblr about it - http://tinderguyswithtigers.tumblr.com/

Also, IMO a second shot participating in a cool activity or sport would be better than two in a row suited

(07-13-2014 11:27 AM)Gorgiass Wrote:  Guys who are having issues with no matches, what's your strategy? Are you doing the swipe right all the time and filter later?

I don't do the mass swipe right thing until later on in the week when I start getting less and less matches and need to see if my profile is even being shown to anyone. Sometimes I'll swipe right on a robot purposely just to see if I match, and sometimes I don't match with them, letting me know that my profile is not being shown.

I don't do the swipe right on everything/filter later approach because more often than not, I'll be stuck with 20 matches, and 18 of those matches would be girls I have no interest at all pursuing.

Whereas, when I'm selective in who I swipe, when I get a match notification, I know it's actually someone I'd want to hook up with.


I don't get as many matches that way, obviously, but at least my match list is filled with girls I actually want to talk to.

I used to do the mass swiping approach, but it's such a letdown when I open the app in the morning and say "alright cool! new matches!.....oh..."

I hate mass swiping but I do it anyway. For every 10 girls I get matched with, 7 are unattractive, 2 barely pass the boner test, and 1 is cute. It doesn't really bother me as much as it used to before though. I've already gotten quite a few bangs from Tinder and I'm probably going to uninstall it soon and check out POF. What I tend to do, usually, is mass swipe around 1-4AM when the horny sloots are looking for a hookup, go to sleep, and wake up to a shit load of matches. Never fails.

As usual, I'm in agreement with game_ethic. Especially in regards to your question, HankRearden.

The horny bishes come out at night. Chicks are nocturnal when they're lonely. Most of my matches come when I wake up at 8-9 am and say "Matched with so-and-so 5 hours ago"

The desperation peaks 1-5 am and chicks scroll and swipe like crazy. Under 40 swipes is nothing. Also, I do worse when I put up my fancy suited-up pic. Put up a few pictures of you in your natural state, whether that be on stage playing guitar or smiling with your pals.

-Renberg

EDIT: Also, I'm interested in hearing what some of you think about this or have noticed the same types of things:
I've observed that it's the hotter girls 8-9 who love flirty alpha convo, but then don't give out the number. In the past week, I've had two solid 9s hooked from the beginning, but when I go for the number, they go silent. Why is this? Is it that the hottest girls are the ones seeking the most attention? Despite their looks, are they the most desperate? Is it that they have THAT many other options? Maybe it's a combination. I can get the numbers of and set dates with some hotties on Tinder, but I'm having trouble with some of these gorgeous ones.

(07-13-2014 01:03 PM)Renberg Wrote:  EDIT: Also, I'm interested in hearing what some of you think about this or have noticed the same types of things:
I've observed that it's the hotter girls 8-9 who love flirty alpha convo, but then don't give out the number. In the past week, I've had two solid 9s hooked from the beginning, but when I go for the number, they go silent. Why is this? Is it that the hottest girls are the ones seeking the most attention? Despite their looks, are they the most desperate? Is it that they have THAT many other options? Maybe it's a combination. I can get the numbers of and set dates with some hotties on Tinder, but I'm having trouble with some of these gorgeous ones.

Could be that you're going for the number too quickly? For some girls it works, but I've seen some dudes strike out on that front for what I feel is going too fast. Yes, you can go too fast on Tinder.

Dude: opener

Girl: haha (response)

Dude: *goes for number*

Girl: excuse/radio silence/etc

I personally spend time getting to know the girl for a little. I'll usually have a pretty lengthy convo. I'm talking about an hour or so of back and forth banter, which sometimes actually leads to conversations that have substance. The shield is disarmed, and it's organic and natural.

If you go for the number too fast, they know you're just going around using the same game plan on every girl you meet.

The bonus also is, if you're actually having an engaging conversation, that's more time she's spending talking to you, that's more time working on separating yourself from the rest of the pack, etc.

But if you're actually engaging them and building rapport and they're still not giving you the number, they are probably just on there for ego stroking. Apparently a lot of girls are.

So. I spent 10 minutes trolling this girl and she still gives me her number? Even though she tells me I'm rude and pathetic? It's fucking hysterical. I don't even get it.

So for all you guys who were getting massive amounts of matches at first but then it slowed down I'll tell you what I did. Similar to others, I was getting a lot of matches the first few days in my new city but then it slowed down. I mean like swiping 1-200 chicks a not a match for days. I deleted my tinder account and deleted the app, took some new pictures (one with me at the beach shirtless(profile pic), another with me rock climbing, one with me in a suit and the last just me lounging around the house) added my height first in the description box and changed it to some funny/unique quote. Within the last two days I probably swiped about 200-250 chicks and matched with currently 42 of them. So try that guys and see what happens.

Also another trick: when you log into tinder after a few minutes or hours the search sometimes doesn't auto update, so you have to push the system into doing it, go to your preference and move your distance up or down by 1 mile and go to search, it should load up the most recent bishes that have been on.

Tinder trolling

me: Spit or swallow

Her: sick, lol

me:

her: that was a gay comment. You can start over

Me: spit or swallow

her: god!

me: never heard that one before

her: you are either hilarious or digesting

me: thanks

her: I hope not the lattet
her again: latter

me: put your number in the box _______________

her: bc we have so much in common?

me: if i'm not mistaken, that's how normal people set up plans. Too mundane for you?

her: ok fortis. test me (number lkadjflsjfdlsf)
her: text me! my phone is an asshole.



I'm not particularly interested in this one: she's 35 and it's definitely showing, but I find it so funny how by assuming the sale and not giving a fuck about her objections that she's throwing me her number, even though she thinks I'm disgusting. lmao