(06-30-2014 11:20 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  How often does it happen to you that a girl gives you her number and then ignores you when you try to contact her through it? Incredible how they can change their minds in so little time.

This has happened a whole lot to me.

The good part is, you haven't made a bad impression - girls can only focus serious interest on one guy at a time. They're not programmed to be romantic with multiple guys as once. So I have experienced several times that they then actually contact you up to a month later when the guy they dropped you for turned out to suck.

The bad part is you just have to roll with the punches and there's nothing you can do to deal with this.

(07-01-2014 03:41 AM)ElJefe Wrote:  They're not programmed to be romantic with multiple guys as once.

Exactly. And since they're on Tinder, lining up 100+ matches a day, they fall in love 100+ times a day. It seems like getting laid on Tinder is 1/2 game and 1/2 luck. If you start talking and she's not free the first night you are, IMO, chances of the bang lower significantly.

(07-01-2014 06:32 AM)Renberg Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 03:41 AM)ElJefe Wrote:  They're not programmed to be romantic with multiple guys as once.

Exactly. And since they're on Tinder, lining up 100+ matches a day, they fall in love 100+ times a day. It seems like getting laid on Tinder is 1/2 game and 1/2 luck. If you start talking and she's not free the first night you are, IMO, chances of the bang lower significantly.

Bingo. It's pretty shitty to say this, but regardless of how tight your tinder game/text is, you're still at the mercy of the broad you message. Even if you number close in a few exchanges on tinder, even if she messages you first and shows a lot of IOI's, the girl can change her mind in a heartbeat.

My friends cousin was on it last night and fell in love a bunch of times, of course all about their looks.

Tinder has made even 5's feel like a hot commodity...which translates into snobbish cunty attitudes when you approach them in real life.

I've been advised and told this before on here by the guru's - Tinder, OKC, POF those apps...should only be a secondary/supplemental stream of pussy, approaching should be your main. You must approach in order to sharpen your gaming skills. Tinder doesn't give you much of a sting of rejection (which you NEED) like being rejected in person.

In addition, chicks who crazily utilize online dating (Tinder, in particular) for fucking and attention-whoring have no need to qualify themselves. They have so many options that they have no need to prove themselves to you, which I despise. But it makes sense.

(07-01-2014 12:12 PM)Renberg Wrote:  In addition, chicks who crazily utilize online dating (Tinder, in particular) for fucking and attention-whoring have no need to qualify themselves. They have so many options that they have no need to prove themselves to you, which I despise. But it makes sense.

Completely agreed, they just "lulz, whatever" and move on.

The only way to beat them is to not play the game at all.

Don't get me wrong Tinder is a goldmine for fucking sluts. BUT it also feeds the egos of girls who don't deserve the attention at all (5's thinking they're 9's). Double edged sword man.

Game can only get you so far in online dating. Time to sack up and daygame.

It seems to me that trying to number close on Tinder is redundant. Just meet up without getting her number. Its not like you need her number to be able to text her. You are already on tinder!

I imagine guys that don't try for the number do better, because its less steps. And for a girl to give out a number likely breaks the tinder spell.
Its like asking for a girl's email address over the phone. Why do it?

Which is better?

A
You: Cool, well let's meet at starbucks in 10 minutes.
Her: see you there!

B
You: Cool, well what's your phone number?
Her: (thinking "why does he need my number, I barely know him... etc etc why am I using tinder again? I feel like a whore)

All I know is my Latin looking friend did well on tinder, meeting a bunch of girls. He already has an exotic factor going for him, but anyhow it worked. And I like the idea of how quick it can be to get the meetup.

I can't wait till there's an app that let's you see who is single in the exact coffee shop you are in. With google glasses it will even show you a percentage personality match for each girl you are looking at. Will it be the end of approach anxiety?

"Excuse me but I couldn't help but notice that my google glasses said you like cream cheese ice cream and harry potter".

(07-01-2014 04:25 PM)kavakid Wrote:  It seems to me that trying to number close on Tinder is redundant. Just meet up without getting her number. Its not like you need her number to be able to text her. You are already on tinder!

I imagine guys that don't try for the number do better, because its less steps. And for a girl to give out a number likely breaks the tinder spell.
Its like asking for a girl's email address over the phone. Why do it?

Which is better?

A
You: Cool, well let's meet at starbucks in 10 minutes.
Her: see you there!

B
You: Cool, well what's your phone number?
Her: (thinking "why does he need my number, I barely know him... etc etc why am I using tinder again? I feel like a whore)

I'll disagree with that, I think having a girls number is an asset.

Also given my situation I can't just say hey let's me up right now. I have to plan it later. Also you don't think they are getting an INFLUX of messages and you won't get lost in the sea of messages ? Getting her to text/call you puts you a step ahead of her pre selection on tinder.

You don't think asking a girl directly on tinder to meet up in 10 mins is "I barely know him... etc etc why am I using tinder again? I feel like a whore" either ?

I always get the number and then I call to make plans. I find it easier and more productive to game vocally then by text. Plus girls like the accent.

Different girls require different types of approaches. There is no perfect strategy for handling Tinder girls. Some girls, as shown, will respond to highly sexualized openers, others will block you. Some will feel comfortable giving you their numbers early on, some will be shy. You have to get a feel for each girl. I've been doing a slow burn because my logistics this summer aren't ideal. At least not right now. Plus I've been busy with other stuff, so I've kind of had to balance everything at a pace that lets the girl know I'm interested, and that it's on as soon as we meet. It works with certain girls. Other girls, if you don't strike within that first week, you're done. You have to get a feel for each individual girl.

(07-01-2014 05:46 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Different girls require different types of approaches. There is no perfect strategy for handling Tinder girls. Some girls, as shown, will respond to highly sexualized openers, others will block you. Some will feel comfortable giving you their numbers early on, some will be shy. You have to get a feel for each girl.

Completely agreed, I had great success with young bloods line about "the girl next door" opener, I actually got blocked today for the first time. I've tried to as you say, get a feel for each girl, figure out if they'd laugh at an opener like that, or actually show that I checked out her pics and read her bio.

It's always fluid, but I'm stoked I'm hoping to get some pro pics taken (I've needed them for a long time.

(07-01-2014 03:41 AM)ElJefe Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 11:20 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  How often does it happen to you that a girl gives you her number and then ignores you when you try to contact her through it? Incredible how they can change their minds in so little time.

This has happened a whole lot to me.

The good part is, you haven't made a bad impression - girls can only focus serious interest on one guy at a time. They're not programmed to be romantic with multiple guys as once. So I have experienced several times that they then actually contact you up to a month later when the guy they dropped you for turned out to suck.

The bad part is you just have to roll with the punches and there's nothing you can do to deal with this.

Indeed. Some girls have contacted me 2 or even 4 months after the first flake. One got dumped and the other's boyfriend wen't on a long-month trip.

The key here is to always act aloof, answer them like nothing happened and wait a full week to ask them out. There's nothing you can do to deal with this, and you have to understand that even with strong game, you are always competing with dozens of guys with game. If she contacted you months therafter, you are better than the hundreds of matches she had in between.

To eject or to not eject:

I like banging hoes, but I don't like hoe self-glorification. I've talked to this girl (6.5 WB ha) on-and-off for a couple weeks. On Tinder...

ME: Free tonight? Let's meet up.
HER: I'm free. I'm just still recovering from my date this morning.
ME: What could it be you're recovering from?
HER: Something big.
ME: Yeah. Your hands do look pretty big. Never mind! #Ontothenextgirl
HER: Don't be so uncomfortable, god.

Should I respond ignoring her statement, should I call her the fuck out, or should I be done w/ this hoe?

I'm thinking about pulling a Roosh: "Well, if you're in too much pain...this dick isn't going to suck itself." Hail mary.

Renberg

Ignore and then hit her up when it's time to meet up.

(07-02-2014 11:21 AM)game_ethic Wrote:  Ignore and then hit her up when it's time to meet up.

Nothing has actually been scheduled yet.

Oh. I'd just get off the subject of her date, then. Send another message that's even remotely related to it and she'll put up her anti-slut defense. "So [time] pm then" should suffice.

(07-02-2014 11:13 AM)Renberg Wrote:  To eject or to not eject:

I like banging hoes, but I don't like hoe self-glorification. I've talked to this girl (6.5 WB ha) on-and-off for a couple weeks. On Tinder...

ME: Free tonight? Let's meet up.
HER: I'm free. I'm just still recovering from my date this morning.
ME: What could it be you're recovering from?
HER: Something big.
ME: Yeah. Your hands do look pretty big. Never mind! #Ontothenextgirl
HER: Don't be so uncomfortable, god.

Should I respond ignoring her statement, should I call her the fuck out, or should I be done w/ this hoe?

I'm thinking about pulling a Roosh: "Well, if you're in too much pain...this dick isn't going to suck itself." Hail mary.

Renberg

Absolutely eject. Not only would I find it disrespectful to have a girl talk to me about other dates (especially a date that just happened the night before), but to bring up the guy's dick in a not so subtle way, as well as try to control frame by shaming you into accepting her reality with her "don't be so uncomfortable" line? Na bro. Too many girls on Tinder to deal with that.

Exactly. Thanks, guys. Both are strong pieces of advice. Calling her out -- although it would be fun -- would be a beta move. Scheduling a date is a possibility and I'd be more inclined to do it if I had my own crib to call her over to. But the Law of Abundance states she's negligible.

Considering just saying "Bye"

(07-02-2014 11:34 AM)Renberg Wrote:  Exactly. Thanks, guys. Both are strong pieces of advice. Calling her out -- although it would be fun -- would be a beta move. Scheduling a date is a possibility and I'd be more inclined to do it if I had my own crib to call her over to. But the Law of Abundance states she's negligible.

Considering just saying "Bye"

Don't even bother saying bye. Just eject. (Doesn't mean you can't follow up later and smash her of course)

Does she really mean "something big" aka dick ? Or maybe she's just trolling you, so you'll leave her alone ?

Either way, plenty of gals on tinder, keep it moving !

Initially I read "something big" to mean 'something awful' or ' a big fight'.

But now I realize its more likely to mean "big dick".

But, yeah, bottom line is that you are either best to ignore her, or give an ultimatum "I am only free tonight this week". I'm going out of town for 3 weeks etc etc.

She's probably not biting though, throw her back. Since she is free tonight, if she won't meetup its an insult. If she ever messages you again out of the blue, I would play it cool and tell her you aren't available until __________ (pick day of the week).

Thanks, guys. She's been telling me I'm cute & stuff, but I'll let this message sit.

Tinder = every chick within a 100-mile radius.

(07-02-2014 12:09 PM)Renberg Wrote:  Thanks, guys. She's been telling me I'm cute & stuff, but I'll let this message sit.

Tinder = every chick within a 100-mile radius.

If I were you I'd limit it to a radius of 15-20 miles max.

Personally i do 15-20 miles at home, 7-10 miles away from work.

Reasoning behind this is even if you do match, girls will lose interest FAST if you're that far away (among other things), unless their down for a sex drive, and you show High SMV and/or really good looking guy game.

(07-02-2014 12:14 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(07-02-2014 12:09 PM)Renberg Wrote:  Thanks, guys. She's been telling me I'm cute & stuff, but I'll let this message sit.

Tinder = every chick within a 100-mile radius.

If I were you I'd limit it to a radius of 15-20 miles max.

Personally i do 15-20 miles at home, 7-10 miles away from work.

Reasoning behind this is even if you do match, girls will lose interest FAST if you're that far away (among other things), unless their down for a sex drive, and you show High SMV and/or really good looking guy game.

That's what I do -- I ran out of local matches as I'm in a bordering state, so most of the hot chicks I get matched with are out-of-state, which kinda sucks. Deleting and reinstalling Tinder works well for getting more matches too.

Appreciate the advice, Kaotic.

"That's Mr God to you".

So she's DTF, I'd give an ultimatum for tonight. Wrap it up, Tag n Bag, why not.

Sidenote, maybe it's been mentioned earlier, but anyone else notice that the "last active x minutes/hours ago" works since the last update? Before it would always say 4 hours minimum, usually 20 hours or more and wouldn't update even if they were mesaging with you back and forth. Now it updates to the minute and they can see when you get their message, can't just read a message and let it simmer without them potentially knowing that you got it if they check your profile. Mildly annoying.

(07-02-2014 01:16 PM)Gorgiass Wrote:  Now it updates to the minute and they can see when you get their message, can't just read a message and let it simmer without them potentially knowing that you got it if they check your profile. Mildly annoying.

I don't think that's annoying. If she's obsessively checking your profile wondering whether you've gotten her last message or not, you've practically already won. It doesn't matter what she sees.