(06-26-2014 02:14 PM)gibby6385 Wrote:  After checking a few girls tinders, if she gives any resistance. Move on, I'm friends with this one girl. Great face, but a total sif. She showed me last week, decent looking guys are blowing her up. She has offers for dinner, free stuff and sex 24/7.

Tinder is like Roulette, you have a 1 in 36 chance with any girl over a 7. I don't go for numbers anymore, go for the meet while on Tinder. To be honest, most of you guys are just there to be the girls dancing monkey. You might get the number, nude pics and a lets fuck. But she still has a very good chance of flaking on your ass.

One potential reason for participating in this thread is to strategize various ways to beat the odds or to attempt to play Tinder in a guy's favor... or maybe to use it while traveling or for a specific limited purpose.

Surely, there is NOTHING wrong with understanding obstacles or even knowing that the odds are against guys in various ways (depending on location and even looks), and possibly depending in part by the use of various strategies.

Surely, also Tinder is NOT a static deal, and changes with levels of adoption.

If guys thought that the Tinder system were completely rigged against him, then there would be NO point even trying or considering various strategies that may work.

Nude pics? I feel like these chicas would be more likely to give out sex than pictures.

> I don't go for the numbers anymore, go for the meet while on Tinder.

This. In a way, the number is kind of pointless. You get her number, flirt with her, and try to set up a meet—ok, now what? You could do all of those things on Tinder. The flake rate is probably even more higher if you text her.

I just had a convo with a girl whom I'm meeting up with for drinks later. The conversation went like this:

Me: you don't meet many med students on here (dhv, shows you've went out with other girls from Tinder)
Her: oh, really? I guess I'm your first
Me: close.. my last match was a nurse
Her: haha.. sucks for me! why don't you talk to her instead then? (self-deprecating shit test)
Me: she's not attractive enough
Her: aw, are you implying that I'm attractive then? (another shit test)
Me: take it however you like
Me: i see you're only 2 miles away. what are you doing in bk? (her bio says she lives in cali)
her: I'm just visiting a friend
me: how about you and that friend meet up with me and my boy for drinks later?
her: tempting.. I'll have to check with her. I'm free tomorrow though
me: and I'm not. you'll have to decide quickly
her: haha demanding I see! ok what time?

And that was it! No need to get her number. Unless you're trying to make her plate, don't even ask for it, she'll bring it up herself. If she's really attracted to you she'll even ask "why haven't you asked me for my number yet" or something along those lines

(06-26-2014 02:54 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  > I don't go for the numbers anymore, go for the meet while on Tinder.

This. In a way, the number is kind of pointless. You get her number, flirt with her, and try to set up a meet—ok, now what? You could do all of those things on Tinder. The flake rate is probably even more higher if you text her.

I just had a convo with a girl whom I'm meeting up with for drinks later. The conversation went like this:

Me: you don't meet many med students on here (dhv, shows you've went out with other girls from Tinder)
Her: oh, really? I guess I'm your first
Me: close.. my last match was a nurse
Her: haha.. sucks for me! why don't you talk to her instead then? (self-deprecating shit test)
Me: she's not attractive enough
Her: aw, are you implying that I'm attractive then? (another shit test)
Me: take it however you like
Me: i see you're only 2 miles away. what are you doing in bk? (her bio says she lives in cali)
her: I'm just visiting a friend
me: how about you and that friend meet up with me and my boy for drinks later?
her: tempting.. I'll have to check with her. I'm free tomorrow though
me: and I'm not. you'll have to decide quickly
her: haha demanding I see! ok what time?

And that was it! No need to get her number. Unless you're trying to make her plate, don't even ask for it, she'll bring it up herself. If she's really attracted to you she'll even ask "why haven't you asked me for my number yet" or something along those lines

While I like this, getting the number can help with restart texts if she flakes, I never delete old numbers anymore, I just devalue/demote them. Sometimes those old numbers/leads can produce bangs.

Usually I number close fast and hangout within the next few days. In my experience I would say the flake rate would probably be the same if you did/or didn't get her number.

I guess I just like to have her number, and fast.

I've been first-date bang-rejected by some chicas and don't end up getting a second date due to the girls' practically unlimited number of actions.

If I had to critique myself, I would say that Tinder and the women who use it are one big shit test. Since I don't have a home accessible to my dates, I have to find a way to get girls to a park or my car. It's a learning experience, but I need to kick it up a notch

(06-26-2014 03:01 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 02:54 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  > I don't go for the numbers anymore, go for the meet while on Tinder.

This. In a way, the number is kind of pointless. You get her number, flirt with her, and try to set up a meet—ok, now what? You could do all of those things on Tinder. The flake rate is probably even more higher if you text her.

I just had a convo with a girl whom I'm meeting up with for drinks later. The conversation went like this:

Me: you don't meet many med students on here (dhv, shows you've went out with other girls from Tinder)
Her: oh, really? I guess I'm your first
Me: close.. my last match was a nurse
Her: haha.. sucks for me! why don't you talk to her instead then? (self-deprecating shit test)
Me: she's not attractive enough
Her: aw, are you implying that I'm attractive then? (another shit test)
Me: take it however you like
Me: i see you're only 2 miles away. what are you doing in bk? (her bio says she lives in cali)
her: I'm just visiting a friend
me: how about you and that friend meet up with me and my boy for drinks later?
her: tempting.. I'll have to check with her. I'm free tomorrow though
me: and I'm not. you'll have to decide quickly
her: haha demanding I see! ok what time?

And that was it! No need to get her number. Unless you're trying to make her plate, don't even ask for it, she'll bring it up herself. If she's really attracted to you she'll even ask "why haven't you asked me for my number yet" or something along those lines

While I like this, getting the number can help with restart texts if she flakes, I never delete old numbers anymore, I just devalue/demote them. Sometimes those old numbers/leads can produce bangs.

Usually I number close fast and hangout within the next few days. In my experience I would say the flake rate would probably be the same if you did/or didn't get her number.

I guess I just like to have her number, and fast.

Good points. I guess it just depends on how quickly/efficient you build rapport and how attractive she finds you. A girl would be much more willing to meet up with a guy who's really attractive within the first few mins of the convo. If you're average looking, or someone who's not really "out of her league," then you'll have to rely on building rapport a lot more. Survival of the fittest at its finest.

Quote:Good points. I guess it just depends on how quickly/efficient you build rapport and how attractive she finds you. A girl would be much more willing to meet up with a guy who's really attractive within the first few mins of the convo. If you're average looking, or someone who's not really "out of her league," then you'll have to rely on building rapport a lot more. Survival of the fittest at its finest.

I think I'm a decent looking guy, but right now I'm using a suited unicorn mask as my default. I'm just trolling around when I have time. I do agree if the attraction rate is high - they'll be down to do anything for you. I'll try going for the meetup on tinder see how it goes and report back.

What do you guys do for pictures?

I'm not very photogenic and I don't know anyone who can take model pictures.

Seems like every girl on there is a master of selfies and hiding their flaws.

(06-26-2014 03:36 PM)ms224 Wrote:  What do you guys do for pictures?

I'm not very photogenic and I don't know anyone who can take model pictures.

Seems like every girl on there is a master of selfies and hiding their flaws.

No selfies, you having fun being a bad ass, pics with HB's. Hobbies.

If you're shredded and have a muscular body, don't be afraid to show it off. A pic of you at the beach or the pool (take by someone else).

3 of my pics are with HB 7+'s
1 is a pic of my underwater in a pool with a go pro
1 is a pic of me free climbing
1 is a pic of me shooting/on NHL rink (in a baseball stadium)

Be creative than the standard bathroom selfie. I always change up my pics.

(06-26-2014 03:36 PM)ms224 Wrote:  What do you guys do for pictures?

I'm not very photogenic and I don't know anyone who can take model pictures.

Seems like every girl on there is a master of selfies and hiding their flaws.

My first photo is a selfie of me walking to school.. It got 30 likes on FB so I figured why not use that one.

The second is me suited up. (I took this one before an interview)
Third is a professional-ish photo with one of my female friends at a photoshoot.

(06-26-2014 04:35 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 03:36 PM)ms224 Wrote:  What do you guys do for pictures?

I'm not very photogenic and I don't know anyone who can take model pictures.

Seems like every girl on there is a master of selfies and hiding their flaws.

My first photo is a selfie of me walking to school.. It got 30 likes on FB so I figured why not use that one.

The second is me suited up. (I took this one before an interview)
Third is a professional-ish photo with one of my female friends at a photoshoot.

How old are you ? I would add more pics than 3. I would also click back on this thread. There is a wealth of info on what you should put and say on your Tinder profile. Also check the body building tinder threads as well.

^ 20. My Tinder bio is pretty simple. I've noticed that when you state your height(and I'm pretty tall, I'm 6'3") you'll get more matches. Some girls even explicitly state that they're looking for guys 6" or taller so I guess I have that to my advantage haha. Anyways, my format is like this: [my height, school, and a witty statement that I occasionally change]

I've had a lot of messages from girls commenting on my most recent one("If you don't watch Game of Thrones then we probably won't get along.") here's one of em that sent me an entire paragraph...

(06-26-2014 04:54 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  ^ 20. My Tinder bio is pretty simple. I've noticed that when you state your height(and I'm pretty tall, I'm 6'3") you'll get more matches. Some girls even explicitly state that they're looking for guys 6" or taller so I guess I have that to my advantage haha. Anyways, my format is like this: [my height, school, and a witty statement that I occasionally change]

I've had a lot of messages from girls commenting on my most recent one("If you don't watch Game of Thrones then we probably won't get along.") here's one of em that sent me an entire paragraph...

Absolutely use that height to your advantage, girls def go for that on Tinder.
GOT kills it with girls on there also (personally I've never seen an episode). Seen a few mention it on this thread. Girl is def showing a high level of interest with that long paragraph !

The percentage of women who write that they're not on Tinder for a hookup or a one-night stand is amusingly high based on what I've seen. It's the opposite of LMR -- but it's also a sign that they've almost for sure fallen for game (intended or otherwise) before. And, true to their biology, they will again.

(06-26-2014 04:54 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  ^ 20. My Tinder bio is pretty simple. I've noticed that when you state your height(and I'm pretty tall, I'm 6'3") you'll get more matches. Some girls even explicitly state that they're looking for guys 6" or taller so I guess I have that to my advantage haha. Anyways, my format is like this: [my height, school, and a witty statement that I occasionally change]

I've had a lot of messages from girls commenting on my most recent one("If you don't watch Game of Thrones then we probably won't get along.") here's one of em that sent me an entire paragraph...

She won't be watching more, but all the sex is great...

I'll take DTF for 1,000, Alex.

^ haha. Only reason I didn't follow up on it was because her face wasn't all that great. 5.5-6-ish.

As an update:

I've stopped using the "You look like a..." line. I've said it before that I much prefer using something from her bio or pics to open her. This increases the level of responses and gives you more leads.

Using a sexually crass opener does work, but I noticed that I get more meetings by calibrating my opener to her. It didn't hit me till I messed with moments that my preference for opening by commenting something about her bio or pics is optimal.

Case in point, there was many times when i would use a sexual opener like the girl next door one, and it wouldn't go anywhere. When moments came along and I commented on her pictures or bio, that's when I got more numbers and follow ups. And that's because I calibrated my opening line to her.

It's funny to note that many of those starting lines that I see guys using came organically to me, only after opening her. In other words, those lines weren't meant as a opener but rather, came mid way during the conversation. This is how good game develops in my opinion.

This is relevant to Tinder Game for you all because I see a lot of guys being so caught up on canned lines. When really what you should be working on is calibrating your approach to every girl. This allows your brain to constantly look for creative ways to open and prevents your game from remaining static in an ever changing SMP. Plus, if you do get a date, your brain is so use to working for an angle that it won't ever feel sluggish or over worked by thinking of one.

If you use lines or routines as a crutch, you can only go so far and you won't ever reach Game Fluidity. That being said, I still recommend canned lines for the newbies, seeing as how we all need training wheels when we first start to ride.

But after a while, you need to drop it and change with the times in order to adapt properly.

P.S. A Tinder or online dating sub forum would be great for all. I can definitely predict a huge rise of this in the upcoming years. Better to get started early.

(06-26-2014 05:14 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  ^ haha. Only reason I didn't follow up on it was because her face wasn't all that great. 5.5-6-ish.

To be honest...it looked like a dude.

I got the profile set as a screen cap of a amateur boxing match I fought.

Referee blocked the view of all my good shots, and I lost on points

Maybe I can get someone to take a picture of me like they do for the MMA fight promos?

(06-26-2014 05:38 PM)YoungBlood Wrote:  P.S. A Tinder or online dating sub forum would be great for all. I can definitely predict a huge rise of this in the upcoming years. Better to get started early.

I'd say general online, as there are sure to be new apps/hypes the following years.

(06-26-2014 05:38 PM)YoungBlood Wrote:  As an update:

I've stopped using the "You look like a..." line. I've said it before that I much prefer using something from her bio or pics to open her. This increases the level of responses and gives you more leads.

Using a sexually crass opener does work, but I noticed that I get more meetings by calibrating my opener to her. It didn't hit me till I messed with moments that my preference for opening by commenting something about her bio or pics is optimal.

Case in point, there was many times when i would use a sexual opener like the girl next door one, and it wouldn't go anywhere. When moments came along and I commented on her pictures or bio, that's when I got more numbers and follow ups. And that's because I calibrated my opening line to her.

It's funny to note that many of those starting lines that I see guys using came organically to me, only after opening her. In other words, those lines weren't meant as a opener but rather, came mid way during the conversation. This is how good game develops in my opinion.

This is relevant to Tinder Game for you all because I see a lot of guys being so caught up on canned lines. When really what you should be working on is calibrating your approach to every girl. This allows your brain to constantly look for creative ways to open and prevents your game from remaining static in an ever changing SMP. Plus, if you do get a date, your brain is so use to working for an angle that it won't ever feel sluggish or over worked by thinking of one.

If you use lines or routines as a crutch, you can only go so far and you won't ever reach Game Fluidity. That being said, I still recommend canned lines for the newbies, seeing as how we all need training wheels when we first start to ride.

But after a while, you need to drop it and change with the times in order to adapt properly.

See I do that, trying to make a connection to her via bio and/or pictures. It would work but then fizzle out, it seems most the girls I'm around want a good laugh and a obscene hilarious (not creepy) pick up line. I agree using canned lines is a crutch and will cripple you. Being creative in a fluid environment and rolling with the convo will further increase your experience.

But dammit youngblood sometimes it's just to damn easy:
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Tinder first, get a girls digits to call her with the quick plans. It was a guy, who claimed he is trolling dudes on tinder. Be weary my friends.

Still pulled a tinder bang last night, from a girl I flaked on the night before. My 3 easiest bangs of tinder, are girls I flaked on first. Could be the solution to getting the bangs out of these girls.

I've seen girls who seemed interested in making plans disappear if you push for a phone number as early as you should with other forms of online dating. and others who have offered up the number unprompted if you don't ask and make plans totally within the app.

I've sort of used it in the opposite way - if I'm less interested in a girl and want to gauge how interested she is, I'll push harder for the number and use it to weed out tire kickers. if I'm more interested I'll make it more of an afterthought.

granted most of these are 25 or younger. but either way, for best results in my opinion you should be waiting longer to get her number, if at all.

Me: You have that "cute girl next door but I love a good hard fuck" look to you.

Her: Awe thanks...And you have that "I think I'm really good in bed but I'm lucky if I get laid from the way I speak to a lady" look

(06-27-2014 10:01 PM)Teddykgb Wrote:  Me: You have that "cute girl next door but I love a good hard fuck" look to you.

Her: Awe thanks...And you have that "I think I'm really good in bed but I'm lucky if I get laid from the way I speak to a lady" look