^^^ Over a hundred??? Damn. Are you a model or something? I think I got only 18 in 3 days. Which even still is a hell of a lot better than I get in the USA. Or I must be uglier than I thought, lol.

180 something actually mostly aged 20-30. Girls opening me are 5's and 6's. Seems to have picked up after I got rid of that stupid pic with me holding a mahi mahi. Fucking mahi mahi pic. No text in my profile, just two profile pics, one with good lighting.

The "you look like trouble" opener works well, most chicks responding with jajaja and why do you say that. Said nihao to a chinese girl she says jajaja I don't speak chinese.

Gonna try Madrid next.

edit: Back in the US I'm matching with SIF's, 5's, and 6's, the occasional 7.

(06-22-2014 03:46 PM)gibby6385 Wrote:  Had a cute 21 year old over last night, 30 minutes it only took to get her in the bedroom. Am I the only one that does every meet up at my place. Going to a bar and out with these girls is too much work. If she resists, I do a quick phone call neg her. These girls all respond to asshole game, if she doesnt want to come over, she wasnt that interested. Onto the next one.

One intro text, then a phone call. Has worked best for me getting these girls to come over.

Yeah not sure why guys are metting chicks at bars, or in public in general. easy way to put yourself behind the 8 ball and cock block urself. i got 6 tinder bangs all 7.5+ and all 6 have come straight to my house for "netflix". Saying that i have lost out on hot chicks who wanted me to go there or meet them and i wouldnt. Too busy with work for dates that might not lead to anything.

Been using the moments feature lately, i get about 200 likes per moment i put up. i put up a "dtf?" moment earlier in the shower. Only got 30 likes so far but i know whos truly dtf.

The hottest ones:







This is getting too easy.

(06-22-2014 03:46 PM)gibby6385 Wrote:  One intro text, then a phone call. Has worked best for me getting these girls to come over.

How does this work? Do you get the number in the intro?

Sloots are gonna sloot

Okay I used the "You have that 'girl next door but I love a good hard fuck' look to you" opener to 5 different girls and only 1 responded. She responded "Is that flattering or blocking worthy." Is that some kind of shit test? How are you guys getting such good responses from that opener? Do you have to be extremely good looking?

(06-22-2014 10:54 PM)Borealis Wrote:  Okay I used the "You have that 'girl next door but I love a good hard fuck' look to you" opener to 5 different girls and only 1 responded. She responded "Is that flattering or blocking worthy." Is that some kind of shit test? How are you guys getting such good responses from that opener? Do you have to be extremely good looking?

Yeah. If you're not in the top 20% of looks, don't bother going sexual as your opening message. That shit only works for pretty boys. Only exception is if she looks like a straight ho in her photos or she messages you first.

Nice work, Bullocks, but clearly you have your looks going for you. Girls only contact men first when they think the dude is hawt.

By the way what's up with your chest

EDIT: ah, shower

I honestly don't see the point of going sexual so soon I'm in the top 20% of looks and have a ton of matches but why eliminate 66% of them or 75% of them right off the bat? are you that lazy that you can't exchange two or three lines before waiting for more organic opener? If you allow conversation to develop you'll find a way to let you witticism come through and win the day (and her pooosy) in a more endearing and meaningful way.

If you don't enjoy the hunt then what's the point of this? I like the entire process and the bang is icing on the cake.

I prefer to fuck girls that 99% of the guys on Tinder don't get to fuck.

I tried that "girl next door" line on a black chick (about a 6) being a brother that's usually a nono off the bat, but it was late and I said fuck it. She loved it, sending smiley faces and all. Really opened up the convo to a more sexual tone.

As far as Mexico city, I'm definitely taking a trip down there like next week seriously haha.

(06-22-2014 10:54 PM)Borealis Wrote:  Okay I used the "You have that 'girl next door but I love a good hard fuck' look to you" opener to 5 different girls and only 1 responded. She responded "Is that flattering or blocking worthy." Is that some kind of shit test? How are you guys getting such good responses from that opener? Do you have to be extremely good looking?

Just wanted to point out that Googling any variant of this "girl next door" phrase now pops up this thread right at the top of the results. Not that many chicks will bother, but copying text from Tinder and pasting in Google is only two clicks and 5 seconds, a pretty easy screen for them to see which guys are congruent with their game. Might be best to keep the exact wording of these nuggets confined to screenshots, which aren't indexed in the future. Food for thought.

Those are probably Zetas looking to sucker American kids to act as couriers.

(06-23-2014 09:52 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Those are probably Zetas looking to sucker American kids to act as couriers.

Never thought of this, but it's a very interesting theory. The gangs wouldn't mind taking advantage of naive American guys and could easily use "friendly" girls as bait jajaja.

(06-22-2014 10:33 PM)bullocks Wrote:  




Sloots are gonna sloot

Damn dude you must definitely have good looking guy game working in your favor, now I'm curious to know what you look like, no homo.

(06-22-2014 11:34 AM)Renberg Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 10:54 AM)redbeard Wrote:  I think this was mentioned somewhere but I can't find it. How do you guys convert girls who are farther away? I'm getting good leads on girls who are about 30 minutes away from my house.

I'm looking to use the "x bar at y time, be there" style line, but the big question is:

a. bar near me, long drive for her but close to my pad
b. bar near her, long drive for me but close to her
c. bar halfway between, then closing to my place

I'm thinking of suggesting option a and then using option as a backup. Logistics are key and I don't want to fuck this up. Thoughts?

Option A is, of course, the best option. It's the best because it works in favor of your time. Therefore, if she is going to come to you, she'd have to know it is worth her time.

That said, 30 minutes is, in my opinion, practically nothing. Don't come off as unsure. IMO, it's smart to stick with your, "X bar and Y time" line.

Honestly Option B is worse than C.

I've gone on Option C dates, made out but no bang. 2nd date got the bang.

Most girls I met are a city away (but very close to where I work). So I gym, shower, then meet the girl at a neutral spot, usually a cool bar, or this local brewery.

I save time not driving to her, if she's boring or a SIF I can bounce without losing time or driving extra miles.

Usually I'll get a "but that's so far" with option A (I tinder 7 mile radius near work) most my matches are out of town (I see that as a positive thing)

So I typically preempt that by meeting in the middle this provides a few things:

1. It doesn't scare the cat.
2. We can both be discreet
3. Her coming to me shows high SMV, if she has some doubts, meeting her halfway, I can use my game and personality (usually I've won girls over this way and closed 2nd date)
4. I'm technically not wasting mileage or additional time since their halfway point is right near work.

i KNOW halfway isn't the best way, but sometimes it's the only way no matter what they say. Maybe I need to sharpen my text game but I usually only text to make plans not have a long text convo.

(06-23-2014 09:52 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Those are probably Zetas looking to sucker American kids to act as couriers.

Haha so could be true. I doubt I will really interact with the chicks I met on tinder if I do go. Just good to see how the chicas respond to just pics alone.

Anyone been getting matched with bots lately? Got matched with 4 girls today and 2 of them were bots..

(06-23-2014 01:49 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  Anyone been getting matched with bots lately? Got matched with 4 girls today and 2 of them were bots..

Yeah i get 1 or 2 a day. the girls used to say hi first then use a KIK or link.

I swipe without even looking most of the time - I'll get girls who have links and pricing on their photos for ex: GFE $100 etc etc. I just report them and unmatch them.

When you open up Tinder it front-loads the women who swiped right on you. Everytime I open Tinder after a day of inactivity I'm going to see an obese black woman at the first woman that pops up. Never fails!

(06-22-2014 11:12 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 10:54 PM)Borealis Wrote:  Okay I used the "You have that 'girl next door but I love a good hard fuck' look to you" opener to 5 different girls and only 1 responded. She responded "Is that flattering or blocking worthy." Is that some kind of shit test? How are you guys getting such good responses from that opener? Do you have to be extremely good looking?

Yeah. If you're not in the top 20% of looks, don't bother going sexual as your opening message. That shit only works for pretty boys. Only exception is if she looks like a straight ho in her photos or she messages you first.

Do you think I should even bother to message her back?

(06-23-2014 03:30 PM)Borealis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 11:12 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 10:54 PM)Borealis Wrote:  Okay I used the "You have that 'girl next door but I love a good hard fuck' look to you" opener to 5 different girls and only 1 responded. She responded "Is that flattering or blocking worthy." Is that some kind of shit test? How are you guys getting such good responses from that opener? Do you have to be extremely good looking?

Yeah. If you're not in the top 20% of looks, don't bother going sexual as your opening message. That shit only works for pretty boys. Only exception is if she looks like a straight ho in her photos or she messages you first.

Do you think I should even bother to message her back?

Personally, I think that if you got the girl's attention sufficiently to get her to text you, then you should figure out a way to go with the flow... and there are a lot of ways to do that... for example, you could say something like you just spontaneously responded to her picture, and your fingers typed that message and before you knew it, your finger had also hit "send." My point is that there are ways to back out of a position with grace, but yet to still maintain the position by blaming Freud or some other force to which the girl's hamster may relate.

(06-23-2014 03:30 PM)Borealis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 11:12 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 10:54 PM)Borealis Wrote:  Okay I used the "You have that 'girl next door but I love a good hard fuck' look to you" opener to 5 different girls and only 1 responded. She responded "Is that flattering or blocking worthy." Is that some kind of shit test? How are you guys getting such good responses from that opener? Do you have to be extremely good looking?

Yeah. If you're not in the top 20% of looks, don't bother going sexual as your opening message. That shit only works for pretty boys. Only exception is if she looks like a straight ho in her photos or she messages you first.

Do you think I should even bother to message her back?

My response to her text would have been, "I'd say a little bit of both " You went sexual. Own it. Don't back peddle. If she was completely uninterested she'd have blocked you. The fact that she even responded means you're still in the game as far as Tinder goes.

(06-23-2014 03:40 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 03:30 PM)Borealis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 11:12 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 10:54 PM)Borealis Wrote:  Okay I used the "You have that 'girl next door but I love a good hard fuck' look to you" opener to 5 different girls and only 1 responded. She responded "Is that flattering or blocking worthy." Is that some kind of shit test? How are you guys getting such good responses from that opener? Do you have to be extremely good looking?

Yeah. If you're not in the top 20% of looks, don't bother going sexual as your opening message. That shit only works for pretty boys. Only exception is if she looks like a straight ho in her photos or she messages you first.

Do you think I should even bother to message her back?

My response to her text would have been, "I'd say a little bit of both " You went sexual. Own it. Don't back peddle. If she was completely uninterested she'd have blocked you. The fact that she even responded means you're still in the game as far as Tinder goes.

SpeakEasy: I like your answer too. Surely, your answer varies from mine, but I really think there can be various responses that could work for a guy... ... .. yet I do think that once a guy goes down a certain path with that particular girl it sets a tone with that particular girl.. that may work with her or another tone may work better with that particular girl and circumstance.. ..

and we both agree that the situation is likely worthy of a follow-up. I am NOT set in stone about how I follow up with any girl... especially when I am meeting (or texting them for the first time) depending upon my mood, schedule, attractiveness to the girl and other considerations.

Just saw a lizard I know who is about to move in with and marry her "amazing bf" on tinder. One of her pics was them kissing. Wtf?

I'm using some of Youngblood's lines (thanks buddy) and having this convo quite often:

Me: A tinder girl with no bio, hmm youre quite the open book on here
Her: Yours only has your height (true)
Me: Well what separates you from the rest of these tinder girls?

Then run tinder/text game from there to escalate and push for the number. I think that response works because it ignores her comment and maintains frame. But I'm open to other recommendations.

I am leaving NZ next week so will change my bio then to play up the foreigner angle.

I'm also experimenting by using the "two truths one lie, go" opener followed by some banter and then I say "so tell me, what does a guy like me have to do to get with a girl like you". They usually give a playful answer and you grab the number. I've had success with this.

Edit:think I'm gonna move over to this, You have that "cute girl next door but I love a good hard fuck" look to you.

It will likely get to the same result much faster but might have a higher blowout rate - likely good for filtering. However I'm gonna wait for a week until I'm outside of my hometown where where I'm two degrees of separation from everyone, I too frequently see girls screenshot guys who have gone too direct and put them on Facebook for everyone to laugh at, I can hold out for a week.