Post: #401

(12-26-2012 12:42 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-26-2012 09:38 AM)jariel Wrote:  let's face it, for most of these guys the "red pill" was just a prop in a movie.

I agree. The "red pill" is a bunch of bullshit. No one cares about the truth. No one cares about the realities of the world. No one cares about exposing the lies and misconceptions of the world.

We just wanna bang pussy. Most of would take the "blue pill" if it meant more pussy for us.

In fact, I think most of the guys on this forum are "blue pill" on every subject except marriage.

I still don't understand the red or blue pill thing except it's from a movie? What does that have to do with us if it's some movie crap anyway or that kid.

Post: #402

(12-26-2012 12:55 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  I still don't understand the red or blue pill thing except it's from a movie?

Agreed. I really don't know what the hell the "red pill" is supposed to mean for us?

I'm gonna start a thread on it.

Post: #403

(12-26-2012 01:27 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-26-2012 12:55 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  I still don't understand the red or blue pill thing except it's from a movie?

Agreed. I really don't know what the hell the "red pill" is supposed to mean for us?

I'm gonna start a thread on it.

I get them confused. This guy is blue pill umm..which one are we supposed to be again? At first I thought it meant Democrat. I don't get the alpha - beta thing much either even though I comment about it.

Edit: I googled from wiki..
The red pill-blue pill metaphor is frequently used by the Pickup Artist community to symbolize acceptance of humans' shallow, self-serving mate selection tendencies

Post: #404

Most posters here and in the PUA/Manosphere take the whole red vs blue pill, Alpha vs beta and Feminism vs Manosphere way too far and way too serious. PUA's are over the top for profit and most manosphere posters clearly hate women but try to conceal it a bit.

I shake my head at most thing written in the manosphere. Advice is over the top and stories seem to be storyboarded and dialogued.

Post: #405

(12-26-2012 01:49 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Edit: I googled from wiki..

The red pill-blue pill metaphor is frequently used by the Pickup Artist community to symbolize acceptance of humans' shallow, self-serving mate selection tendencies

That makes sense. But, I disagree about it being "shallow".

Men want: youth and beauty

Women want: power and security

That's not shallow! That's deeply ingrained in our DNA! That's the result of thousands of years of evolution.

Post: #406

(12-26-2012 03:09 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-26-2012 01:49 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Edit: I googled from wiki..

The red pill-blue pill metaphor is frequently used by the Pickup Artist community to symbolize acceptance of humans' shallow, self-serving mate selection tendencies

That makes sense. But, I disagree about it being "shallow".

Men want: youth and beauty

Women want: power and security

That's not shallow! That's deeply ingrained in our DNA! That's the result of thousands of years of evolution.

Maybe the pua guys are talking about girls that aren't impressed with mad video game skillz "shallow"

Post: #407

I've always thought that taking the red pill means to disassociate yourself from the feminine imperative which has been ingrained into you from a young age especially if you live in a country which has 'women studies' as a viable degree option.

It does not make you Alpha per se to have taken the red pill but it enhances your chances of standing out and increasing your status etc all that can make one into a Alpha male.

If you do not rid yourself of the feminine imperative thinking then your thought process will always be to subject yourself to the affections of a woman rather than to dominate the affections of a woman.

Post: #408

Post: #409

Anyone else find this odd?

Quote:"DENVER, CO--(Marketwire - Oct 31, 2012) - A new group of actors is now available nationwide for active shooter drills and mall shooting full-scale exercises, announced Visionbox, Denver's leading professional actors studio.

Visionbox Crisis Actors are trained in criminal and victim behavior, and bring intense realism to simulated mass casualty incidents in public places.
The actors' stage acting experience, ranging from Shakespeare to contemporary American theater, enables them to "stay in character" throughout an exercise, and improvise scenes of extreme stress while strictly following official exercise scenarios."
...

"The producers then work with the trainers to create a "prompt book" for the actors so that key scenario developments can be triggered throughout the mall shooting simulation, and caught on tape. The actors can play the part of the shooters, mall employees, shoppers in the mall, shoppers who continue to arrive at the mall, media reporters and others rushing to the mall, and persons in motor vehicles around the mall. Visionbox Crisis Actors can also play the role of citizens calling 911 or mall management, or posting comments on social media websites."

Post: #410

(12-28-2012 03:39 AM)jariel Wrote:  Anyone else find this odd?

Quote:"DENVER, CO--(Marketwire - Oct 31, 2012) - A new group of actors is now available nationwide for active shooter drills and mall shooting full-scale exercises, announced Visionbox, Denver's leading professional actors studio.

Visionbox Crisis Actors are trained in criminal and victim behavior, and bring intense realism to simulated mass casualty incidents in public places.
The actors' stage acting experience, ranging from Shakespeare to contemporary American theater, enables them to "stay in character" throughout an exercise, and improvise scenes of extreme stress while strictly following official exercise scenarios."
...

"The producers then work with the trainers to create a "prompt book" for the actors so that key scenario developments can be triggered throughout the mall shooting simulation, and caught on tape. The actors can play the part of the shooters, mall employees, shoppers in the mall, shoppers who continue to arrive at the mall, media reporters and others rushing to the mall, and persons in motor vehicles around the mall. Visionbox Crisis Actors can also play the role of citizens calling 911 or mall management, or posting comments on social media websites."

That's pretty weird. I just finished watching witness interviews stating that they did not see ambulances or any dead children.

The main reason I am bumping this thread is because United Way supposedly had a relief fund for Sandy Hook victims on December 10, 2012, days before the actual shooting. This article by the Huffington Post dismissed it as a glitch:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/09...42450.html

"Look, at this point you have a choice to make. This is either some sort of malformed Google search, or somehow the people of the United Way transported themselves interdimensionally through time and space to write a condolence letter three days in advance of the shootings."


If not a conspiracy, perhaps the website was for Hurricane Sandy victims in Sandy Hook or the article was back-dated.

Post: #411

Filmmaker and author William Shanley is filing a lawsuit against several media outlets and all MSM for fraud and terrorism to the tune of over $1 trillion for staging the Sandy Hook shooting:.

http://countercurrentnews.com/2017/05/1-...andy-hook/

Quote:In another shocking twist in the Sandy Hook saga, Filmmaker and Author William Brandon Shanley Launches Wave of Lawsuits for more than $1 Trillion Against Big Media Over Sandy Hook Massacre Coverage.

Here is Mr Shanley’s Statement:

“After exhaustive research, the good news is that overwhelming evidence reveals that no children or teachers died at Sandy Hook two years ago. For relief, I have filed lawsuits against the media in US District Court in New Haven for Fraud and Terrorism.”

Here is an example of our abundant evidence, Exhibit D: The Connecticut State Police dash cams record no evacuation of children from school at critical moments: — Smoking Gun evidence no children died at Sandy Hook.

”Via RedFlagNews Mr Shanley is the producer of The Made-for-TV Election starring Martin Sheen that analyzed media coverage of the tectonic Carter-Reagan election of 1980. He is also the author of books on quantum physics, including Alice and the Quantum Cat (2011).

Dr. James Fetzer, whose 35 articles on Sandy Hook for Veteran’s Today qualify him for the highest investigative journalism awards, and School Safety Consultant, Wolfgang Halbig, whose investigative expertise as a former Florida State Police officer, and loving attention as a former principal, makes this case’s particulars comprehensible to all, will be called as expert witnesses.

Mr Shanley’s Complaint states, in part.

Defendants entered into a multi-year conspiracy, meeting in groups separately and together, to commit fraud and terrorism, i.e., to brainwash the public into thinking a lone gunman drill is known as the “Sandy Hook Massacre” was real, when in fact it was a staged FEMA National Level Exercise Event that redirected government resources to terrorize the public.

These crimes were undertaken with the intent of subverting the US Constitution and to affect national, state and local laws.

This fraud involved lying to the public, faking news, publishing one-sided news reports, censoring reality, suppressing facts, and deliberately skewing the news to shift public perceptions.

The true costs of this breach of integrity and trust to society are unfathomable. Instead of fulfilling their Constitutional Role as the People’s Surrogates and being honest brokers of information, the Plaintiff will show how the men and women who dominate the TV news industry in the United States broke laws, besmirched the First Amendment, their Constitutional role as government watchdogs, and forfeited the right to report the news, and thereby profit from news production and distribution.

The sine qua non of journalism is the search for truth. Our Fourth Estate chose a different path.

Punitive damages of one year’s annual revenue from each Defendant are being sought to establish a News Trust, that will free journalism and restore trust and integrity to our communications sources. A democracy cannot survive this tyranny over human consciousness.

The New York Times, the Associated Press, the Hartford Courant, and the Newtown Bee are being sued for 10 billion USD, punitive damages, in a separate Complaint.

Case Name: Shanley v. Smith et al

Case Number:3:14-cv-01881-JAM

Filer: William Brandon Shanley

Mass TV and wire service news media are being sued for 1 trillion USD, punitive damages.

Shanley v. O’Prey et al

Case Number: 3:14-cv-01929-JAM

Filer: William Brandon Shanley

Post: #412

Whoa.

Post: #413

Outlandish claims require outlandish evidence.

I see nothing to support his claims, as much as I really want it to be true.

Post: #414

Well he claims to have "abundant evidence" so I suppose time will tell. Dash cam footage is one piece mentioned in the article.

Post: #415

I imagine there are several dozen parents, cops, federal agents, students and teachers that would beg to differ.

1/10 conspiracy theory.

Post: #416

(05-13-2017 02:24 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Well he claims to have "abundant evidence" so I suppose time will tell. Dash cam footage is one piece mentioned in the article.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Absence of evidence is the stuff of the more hare-brained conspiracy theories.

Post: #417

It has been five years and there are no gun laws attributed to Sandy Hook. If anything gun sells were helped by the idea that Obama was going to use Sandy Hook as a gun grab. You would sooner convince me that Obama was a shill for big ammo. If anything, Sandy Hook should have been a springboard for forced institutionalization of all the untreated crazies we have running around.

Post: #418

(05-13-2017 01:47 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  Outlandish claims require outlandish evidence.

If you have the power to create the narrative, then anything outside that can be declared outlandish.

Post: #419

(05-13-2017 06:33 PM)Number one bummer Wrote:  It has been five years and there are no gun laws attributed to Sandy Hook. If anything gun sells were helped by the idea that Obama was going to use Sandy Hook as a gun grab. You would sooner convince me that Obama was a shill for big ammo. If anything, Sandy Hook should have been a springboard for forced institutionalization of all the untreated crazies we have running around.

Guess again. Several states imposed new restrictions on guns as a result of Sandy Hook. Nothing may have happened at the federal level, but plenty of states made to not allow a crisis to go to waste.

Post: #420

(05-13-2017 06:33 PM)Number one bummer Wrote:  It has been five years and there are no gun laws attributed to Sandy Hook. If anything gun sells were helped by the idea that Obama was going to use Sandy Hook as a gun grab. You would sooner convince me that Obama was a shill for big ammo. If anything, Sandy Hook should have been a springboard for forced institutionalization of all the untreated crazies we have running around.

They're not institutionalizing them, but they're making it harder for them to get guns. They also wanted to enact a law saying that if there's probable cause (based on, e.g., "prior involuntary confinement of such person in a hospital for persons with psychiatric disabilities") to believe that a person poses a substantial risk of personal injury, they can seize his guns. But that keeps dying in committee, probably because Republicans rightly believe that it's a wedge issue that will be used as a precedent for taking away guns from ever-larger swathes of the population. Psychology, like climate change, is a very politicized branch of science, so I'm leery about giving the shrinks any more power than they already have.

A lot of mentally ill people are already institutionalized. It's just that the institution they're in happens to be a jail rather than a mental hospital. But hey, at least they were afforded the right to a fair trial on the objective question of whether they actually committed a crime (as opposed to whether they might commit a crime in the future).

Post: #421

This stuff is getting ridiculous. While it's possible that there may have been more shooters involved or that someone else could have done it, I seriously doubt that the deaths of the victims were faked.

In case anyone comes up with any absurd theories about Virginia Tech, I have a distant cousin who survived taking three bullets from Cho. So, yes, it happened.

Post: #422

Alex Jones just went on an Interview with Megyn Kelly and doubled down on Sandy Hook being a hoax. He wasn't trying to push for multiple shooters, or the govt killing kids to advance anti-gun legislation but that it simply never happened.

This makes me believe even more that, by his own admission, he's only playing a role.

Post: #423

^^ Not true. He says he believes Sandy Hook happened and children died. He encouraged open discussion on his show about it but that it occurred. He does think there are questions about the media though regarding it. I just watched a video he made over this, he does say Megyn Kelly will misrepresent what he said when it airs on Sunday which is why he made the video.

Post: #424

Here's the vid you mention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuAGd1sGChI
Pretty odd that he pre-empts the Interview before it's aired to say it's fake. You kind of wonder why he'd even show up if that was the case. Especially when he has history with Kelly.

Jones has claimed many things about Sandy Hook, here's one where he in his own voice say it's all fake and there was no one at the school: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvXZonCu_RI
Later he makes vids saying that's not what he meant etc etc.

We'll have to wait for the full interview to air to see what he says this time. Regardless of what the particulars are this time the point about his LARPing remains the same.

Post: #425

It wouldn't be the most far fetched theory he's run with, even if to many people it were one of the most offensive.

The trouble is, though, when you're Alex Jones you can't allow yourself to overtaken by the kook-on-the-street. By which I mean, you have to promote some pretty hardcore conspiracies even if you don't really believe in them because if a certain percentage of the kook crowd begin to see you as being too mainstream or, God forbid, a government shill then that's a really hard reputation to shake off. Worst case scenario, you lose most of your market share to the guy that flat-out claims the royal family are reptilians controlling the earth from their secret base at the centre of the planet.

At the end of the day Alex Jones has to keep up the ratings and to do that he had to dance the dance the customers pay to see.

That doesn't mean that everything he says is a lie, but some of it almost certainly is.