Post: #276

That's similar to BKK, it's the mark of a low general education and the resulting low social movement. People put stock in luck and myth and apply it to their every day dealings because they lack the full picture and spatial thinking.

Post: #277

Well I think Ali mentioned in his thread that it's a low trust society. I don't think I would want to spend significant time living in such a place, it will drive you insane. But quick jaunts like Fisto is doing seem much more reasonable.

Post: #278

Fisto had a meltdown but I understand. I was too tired to have one myself. Patron is right about the gas. There is a highway leaving SD. Scooters aren't supposed to be on it, and they frequently have checkpoints confiscating them. When all the scooters come back, the fuel tanks are empty.

@choche- How is the local men being passive aggressive only toward foreigners when they do it to each other? It's cultural. Here's one for the record: When you start understanding the system, as a foreigner, you'll get better service. Whether it is good tips, a smile, a little small talk, fist pump, compliment, ect.

And here's the headline for the night.

Another evil driver story:

Fisto and I took off to Santiago to take care of biz. We hired the EVIL DRIVER, even though we'd set a price for his services. He included the day for free. It took a huge amount of stress off me, and fisto was anxious to get there.

We dropped fisto off at a hotel where he met up with members. The wicked, satanic driver and I headed to the car rental agency to turn the truck in. When we got there, the inspector found a couple of specks on the windshield and was getting to buttrape me for big money. Him and OUR driver went all local Dominican and set to making it right. They went on and on until we went back in and a supervisor came out.

He inspected the window and passed it. Then he told me if I used my card for the rental, it would be an extra 26% tax. OUCH. I was willing to pay, as I can't draw out that much in an atm. He informed me that the atm next door allowed out 20K pesos at a time. I did the deed.

The EVIL driver saved me $500-600 today. And never asked for a cut. He earned his keep today, and I bought his but ticket back au gratis.

He has a silver tongue and is charismatic, making an effective ally against the less than honorable locals.

Post: #279

(11-27-2012 10:03 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  Fisto had a meltdown

The EVIL driver saved me $500-600 today. And never asked for a cut. He earned his keep today, and I bought his but ticket back au gratis.

He has a silver tongue and is charismatic, making an effective ally against the less than honorable locals.

For Fisto, three days is a record cold streak. He got cockblocked by a baby sister on a sure thing. Next he stayed out late rolling with a large group which made it impossible to isolate and close. Then he slept till 3:30 and hung out with me on my last night. Ali followed a similar meltdown-inducing pattern, alternately lovestruck, drunk, hungover, or sick. They really needed a break. When they rescheduled the "sure things", they got flaked. Don't feel sorry for them - they have seen plenty of action. Also, it is reassuring to know that Fisto is better looking than you, has good game, approaches hard in the ideal locale, and can still run into bad luck.


Dominicans are so f*kking slow. I didn't checkout of the hotel. I averted frustration by just paying cash in advance and asking Ali to return the key after I left. Think ahead.

I hate to agree with Gmanifesto, but we locked down a driver. He is an awesome married ex-player. He is local, so he took us to the "hood" where he is connected and safe. He translates Spanish, picks locations, arranges logistics, gives advice, intercepts cockblockers. You need to bring your game, but he gets you the ball. I can't say enough good stuff about him. Get in touch with him and you will be rewarded!

Post: #280

(11-27-2012 11:45 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  Before I left they needed to talk to me and the door guy and driver had a 5 minute convo before he showed me the two warm beers I left behind that were full. What? Who cares????

That is great lol

Post: #281

If you guys wanted, you could write a Charles Bukowski-type novella on this - like a 40-50 fifty page deal. Would depend on your eye for detail and ability to give a believable sense of what it's really like to be there. Poetic license is allowed and encouraged, which you already do very well.

But reading this thread, I feel like I'm reading some kind of surreal story about a place that doesn't really exist - halfway between reality and dream - exacerbated by near non-stop inebriatedness, raucous sex, near-death experiences - a driver who is probably a guardian angel, saving your asses - real antagonists (hoodlums, prositutes, the hotel staff). Character development? None I hope.

Yeah... this could be deep

Post: #282

(11-28-2012 01:42 AM)ElJefe Wrote:  If you guys wanted, you could write a Charles Bukowski-type novella on this - like a 40-50 fifty page deal. Would depend on your eye for detail and ability to give a believable sense of what it's really like to be there. Poetic license is allowed and encouraged, which you already do very well.

But reading this thread, I feel like I'm reading some kind of surreal story about a place that doesn't really exist - halfway between reality and dream - exacerbated by near non-stop inebriatedness, raucous sex, near-death experiences - a driver who is probably a guardian angel, saving your asses - real antagonists (hoodlums, prositutes, the hotel staff). Character development? None I hope.

Yeah... this could be deep

Sounds like a Coen Brothers film.

Post: #283

(11-27-2012 10:03 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  Fisto had a meltdown but I understand. I was too tired to have one myself. Patron is right about the gas. There is a highway leaving SD. Scooters aren't supposed to be on it, and they frequently have checkpoints confiscating them. When all the scooters come back, the fuel tanks are empty.

@choche- How is the local men being passive aggressive only toward foreigners when they do it to each other? It's cultural. Here's one for the record: When you start understanding the system, as a foreigner, you'll get better service. Whether it is good tips, a smile, a little small talk, fist pump, compliment, ect.

And here's the headline for the night.

Another evil driver story:

Fisto and I took off to Santiago to take care of biz. We hired the EVIL DRIVER, even though we'd set a price for his services. He included the day for free. It took a huge amount of stress off me, and fisto was anxious to get there.

We dropped fisto off at a hotel where he met up with members. The wicked, satanic driver and I headed to the car rental agency to turn the truck in. When we got there, the inspector found a couple of specks on the windshield and was getting to buttrape me for big money. Him and OUR driver went all local Dominican and set to making it right. They went on and on until we went back in and a supervisor came out.

He inspected the window and passed it. Then he told me if I used my card for the rental, it would be an extra 26% tax. OUCH. I was willing to pay, as I can't draw out that much in an atm. He informed me that the atm next door allowed out 20K pesos at a time. I did the deed.

The EVIL driver saved me $500-600 today. And never asked for a cut. He earned his keep today, and I bought his but ticket back au gratis.

He has a silver tongue and is charismatic, making an effective ally against the less than honorable locals.

Got you Ali. Then it is like Ecuador in general......the people are just backwards ans corrupt. I know how that works unfortunately.

Post: #284

Also the driver will tell you funny stories about other forum members, the meltdowns and does imitations.. We all enjoyed the Pitt on especially. He'll be here on the forum as he reads it now next month.

Here's a story he told me on the way to the airport...

When elabayarde was leaving the country he called him and asked for a free ride to the airport he said it wouldnt normally be a big thing but he blocked him from driving some dude he knew from using him to take him to bavaro that's a few hours away because he said he'll charge too much so el had to take a motoconcho with his luggage to the airport. I was imagining what that would be like the entire ride.

Post: #285

I've been in DR for a few days ago and I've found it very underwhelming. Here are some of the highlights:

1. The best girls here are known to hang out in barrios and car washes, and I've been wasting my time in bars and clubs.

2. Cigarettes are only sold in half packs. Drives me nuts.

3. The girls are all fake. Have yet to see a true blonde.

4. As mentioned by others, it takes 2 days for a guy to paint a wall here. Every time I drive by a Dominican wall being painted, it fucks up my day.

5. This country is full of people asking you for money, especially at night. I find this particularly annoying as I'm from LA, where I've never once been asked for change at 4am.

6. Worst of all, it's impossible to get laid here unless you somehow manage to catch one of ali's hail marys. Between Fisto throwing around hundred dollar bills and Dominican girls' obsession with tourist black guys, it's impossible for an average joe like me to compete. Thanks to everyone who has tried to show me a good time here, but I'm getting the fuck out on the next plane to Miami. I just hope the con artist taxi driver doesn't make me buy him a new transmission on the way to the airport.

Post: #286

(11-28-2012 08:37 AM)maccc Wrote:  I've been in DR for a few days ago and I've found it very underwhelming. Here are some of the highlights:

1. The best girls here are known to hang out in barrios and car washes, and I've been wasting my time in bars and clubs.

2. Cigarettes are only sold in half packs. Drives me nuts.

3. The girls are all fake. Have yet to see a true blonde.

4. As mentioned by others, it takes 2 days for a guy to paint a wall here. Every time I drive by a Dominican wall being painted, it fucks up my day.

5. This country is full of people asking you for money, especially at night. I find this particularly annoying as I'm from LA, where I've never once been asked for change at 4am.

6. Worst of all, it's impossible to get laid here unless you somehow manage to catch one of ali's hail marys. Between Fisto throwing around hundred dollar bills and Dominican girls' obsession with tourist black guys, it's impossible for an average joe like me to compete. Thanks to everyone who has tried to show me a good time here, but I'm getting the fuck out on the next plane to Miami. I just hope the con artist taxi driver doesn't make me buy him a new transmission on the way to the airport.

maccc, do you speak spanish by the way? Also did you try Dominican Cupid or Badoo? How well do you do with girls in the States? Honestly, I cant see it being difficult to pull in the DR, especially after having lived in several "more difficult" South American countries.
Unlike what some people might think, being average joe in almost every country aint going to get the girls wet.....you still have to bring something to the table.
For your next trip I would suggest Peru or the Philippines.

Post: #287

"For your next trip I would suggest Peru or the Philippines."

They paint even slower there and sell cigs in packs of 4 only so that may not work.

Post: #288

(11-28-2012 08:37 AM)maccc Wrote:  Between Fisto throwing around hundred dollar bills and Dominican girls' obsession with tourist black guys, it's impossible for an average joe like me to compete. Thanks to everyone who has tried to show me a good time here, but I'm getting the fuck out on the next plane to Miami. I just hope the con artist taxi driver doesn't make me buy him a new transmission on the way to the airport.

The first part of your comment is interesting....but anyway I'm assuming you live in Miami, if so, you can get your Dominican fix in Allapattah, pick any day from Wednesday-Sunday. There are three main clubs down NW 36th st, and within the neighborhood most of the restaurants/colmados turn themselves into clubs on the weekends -- La Ceniza is a good spot close to 17th and 36th and there's a little hole in the wall off 19th and 19th that really goes down on Sundays, both with no covers to get in.

I would recommend any Miamian to hang out in AP for a bit before going down, because if you don't like AP, you won't like the DR.

Post: #289

(11-28-2012 11:34 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  "For your next trip I would suggest Peru or the Philippines."

They paint even slower there and sell cigs in packs of 4 only so that may not work.

Yeah, but they will be sucking your cock while the paint dries and you are smoking your 4 cigarrettes...so you wont even notice.

Post: #290

(11-28-2012 08:37 AM)maccc Wrote:  4. As mentioned by others, it takes 2 days for a guy to paint a wall here. Every time I drive by a Dominican wall being painted, it fucks up my day.

That's because the paint is more lazy there and dries slower. If it was US paint, it would dry within a minute.

Post: #291

Jariel, he's being sarcastic. I'm throwing around thousand dollar bills.

Post: #292

(11-28-2012 08:13 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  Also the driver will tell you funny stories about other forum members, the meltdowns and does imitations.. We all enjoyed the Pitt on especially. He'll be here on the forum as he reads it now next month.

Here's a story he told me on the way to the airport...

When elabayarde was leaving the country he called him and asked for a free ride to the airport he said it wouldnt normally be a big thing but he blocked him from driving some dude he knew from using him to take him to bavaro that's a few hours away because he said he'll charge too much so el had to take a motoconcho with his luggage to the airport. I was imagining what that would be like the entire ride.

I picture something like this:

Post: #293

Last night was pretty cool.

Rover picked me up in front of the Los Sardinnes hotel where Ali and the driver dropped me off. We went to Gold's Gym here in Santiago and we gamed the girl into letting me in for free. We were talking about it, it wasn't that much to pay but it's good practice to be charming and using game.

We did a modified crossfit workout that was getting a lot of attention, but there were few women there, so we are planning on going back at a later time today.

We showered an came back to Rover's apt where he was kind enough to let me wash a bunch of clothes. We started drinking Presidentes and shooting the breeze waiting for Macc.

Macc showed up and immediately said to me "I know you!". It turns out that we both trained at the same crossfit gym in L.A. for awhile. Small world!

Since Rover had specified the price of admission was more presidentes, we kept drinking before walking to a calmado and drinking there for a bit. Our chairs were set up right next to another group with a couple girls and I noticed once we sat down, a guy moved and made sure to sit between us and the girls. These DR dudes are so jealous and insecure.

We then walked over to one of Rover's favorite lounges, a very cool place, but there wasn't much talent. There was a real pretty blonde sitting next to 2 DR guys. She's Ameicanized and started speaking "Oh I get so excited when I hear people speaking English!"

The DR guy sitting next to her immediately got his panties in a wad and started mocking me "oooh fuerte, fuerte" and I just kind of tried to be humble and said hey. It was obvious to me the way his beady little eyes kept darting over to the girl that he liked her. He was actually kind of a big guy. Then I hear "Josh!" and I look over and it's the DJ from the first night I was there. He comes over and starts bragging about me telling them all I'm a fighter and the girl is asking me all these questions and I'm just ignoring her mostly talking to the two guys. I guess their big MMA fans and asking me all these questions. The big guy is saying "we're going to fight tonight!" and I can tell these are the jokes you make when you aren't totally joking. I keep blowing him off "hell no, you win right now" (oh yeah, btw he speaks English but was pretending not to at first). The bigger guy is caught up between being a jealous fag and trying to be cool. We do a shot together and he says something like "I'm going to kill you! just kidding just kidding" and I say "order another tequila, that will do it" and laugh but I'm getting uneasy because now he's punching me "playfully" in my shoulders and back and things. The DJ introduces me to the owner of the place and we tell him where we're going. He says he'll text ahead to let them know we're coming. We thankfully leave and head to a different venue than we told the owner and the guys and the girl are begging me to stay, I really feel that if I had stayed much longer the bigger guy would have started a fight...

The next place is deader than dead. Any girl is sitting with a bunch of guys so we leave and on the way out Macc snags a girl within 2 minutes and is leading her along with us. She's obviously a semi pro but Macc is floored when he finds out and says get lost more or less.

We go to the next club and as I'm walking in "Hey are you Fisto?" "Yeah are you Dre?" He leads us to a table and comps our drinks, Rover doesn't quite believe we're getting comped drinks and confirms. This place is nice with a nice view but it's a Tuesday and although we are sitting next to two really hot girls, there isn't much going on, so we drink some more and shoot the breeze. We did the best we could, talking to virtually every bangable girl there (5?) before taking off.

On the way out I meet this little girl that's 18 and practically bursting out of her clothes. These girls bodies are fucking insane sometimes. I'm looking into her eyes and talking to her. (OH one thing I haven't mentioned until now is that these girls will hold your gaze when you make eye contact, MAKE THEM LOOK AWAY, they love it, it makes their pussies tingle to submit) I get her number and I'm supposed to call her to make plans. The owner wants us to come to some party tonight and sit with him. Seems like a cool guy. Macc has ejected and is on his own by this point.

Rover and I go to this 24 hour cafe that always serves good food. We eat and he's talking about some after hours club and I'm like "yeah right, wait until that big sandwich hits your stomach." but to my surprise he's still ready to go for it so we cruise over there.

We get in right away and there is actually some talent even though it's mostly couples. These people love that bachatta stuff but when real club music comes on they look ridiculous trying to dance to it.

Again, the girls asses are amazing, they'll have these cute tiny waists and then big perfectly round asses. It's hard not to go caveman. Rover get's an 18 year olds number with one of the best bodies I've seen and I start dancing with this girl that looks to me like the actress Rae Dawn Chong from Commando. The club is closing and I do my "conmigo anoche" line and she smiles and says "ok for a little bit". I walk over to Rover and try to sort out logistics, I don't have a room yet. He asks me to get her friend and bring them outside while he continues to chat up the 18 year old girl so I do.

It was too easy so I'm highly suspicious that I'm dealing with a couple semi pros.

Sure enough, next thing I know is after we get into the car my girl is giving very precise directions to a Cabana.

We get inside, shower and then I bang my chick, while Rover does his thing. Everything I liked about my girl at the beginning seems lame now. She's into it but I'm not so much. I can't remember the last time I've fucked a girl for money (directly). Money never actually comes up until we are both laying in bed and she says "Give me money. I go home" I just say "esta manana" and go to bed. I've already hidden my wallet and iphone. I have no intention of paying her jack shit.

A few hours later she's making all sorts of goddamn racket and I raise my voice "dormindo!" and she makes some offended noise and starts speaking more loudly. These bitches are totally inconsiderate. We all have to get up anyway and she is staring daggers at me everytime she looks in my direction. Luckily I have built up and immunity to them over the years and they just bounce right off. We drop them off and that concludes the night.

I would have rather have had a real girl but fuck it.

Post: #294

Semi-pro's will not shut the fuck up in the morning. The will pester you and make all kinds of racket. This does not do well for me first thing, hungover or not. It's best to screen beforehand.

On the flipside I got tormented by a girl that would not leave my room cause she wanted to talk about a relationship and kids on Google translate. It was grueling and all I wanted to do was walk down the street for food and smokes. Met another repeat bang for lunch as I didn't want to eat alone. She didn't pass the boner test as I'd fucked the first girl so hard this morning the bed moved over a foot away from the headboard. She looked over the "ledge" and started laughing. Good times.

Ordered something called chiva a lo militar. Awesome dish, but took 10 minutes of flossing to get the meat from between my teeth.

The girls that flaked on fisto and I have been blowing up my phone. I was gonna get ugly, but will take his advice and make them feel bad. It has already started. Will be a learning experience all the same.

Post: #295

P.S. Fisto, if you're trying to say "With me tonight" that's "Conmigo esta noche".

"Conmigo anoche" means "With me last night."

That said, I'm sure you get your point across...carry on player.

Post: #296

I was in Spain for 3 months when I was 19. My Spanish was for shit, and I was partying like crazy, so not getting much studying done. For the first two months I would go up to girls in the club and say "Cuantos Ano?" to ask them how old they are. I never got much of a response. Two months later my teacher draws butt cheeks on the chalk board....with a big 0 in the middle. He explains that "Cuantos Anyos" is how you say how old, and that "Cuantos Anos" means how many assholes do you have.

Post: #297

hahaha. That is pretty good Nomad.

Same stuff goes on in Cuba non stop with people trying to rip you off. I went to a rental car agency. The guy had me pay for the car. I paid and then I saw the exchange rate he used rather than the 1.01 he plugged in 1.09. At restaurants they will give you change and it will be a dollar or 2 short often. You'll have waiters explain to you that the item they are bringing to you is not the one on the menu as thats no longer in stock and they will bring you the same pizza that the cuban beside you is eating and tell you it costs 3 dollars more. Non stop hustle. This is mostly true for havana. Outside of Havana the hustle calms down but still exists. It's like the wild wild west.

Post: #298

Thedude, thanks! See? My Spanish gets better everyday!

Supposed to meet up with the 18 year old, she's very conservative, I'm going to try and get her pumped up still be I don't hold out a lot of hope.

Post: #299

I have the opportunity to fly to DR for free but this hustle nonsense makes me reluctant to even try to make the trip. I was heated when I was scammed by taxi driver in BKK and I can't even imagine staying there for a week. Unfortunately I think I might take the risk. yolo

Post: #300

I'm back in action. Laying in a girls bed right now.