Post: #151

It will certainly be an interesting twist on the whole 6 degrees of separation thing. The new game will be how many girls removed (if at all) is the girl you banging from one they banged. Everyone will become Eskimo brothers.

Post: #152

When last I left you the girls we were supposed to go to the river with were just showing up. Prior to that Ali and Mechanico were just waking up in Santiago and neither of them felt like moving or calling the girls to meet at this river they knew of. I said I wanted to go and had the driver call the chicks. I told him to tell the girl I was coming down alone if I had to. Mechanico said fuck it he was in and we dragged Ali into the car basically threatening to have a meltdown. We had a nice drive. Ali passed out in the back and we stopped off for coconuts. By the time we got to the rendevouz point Ali was coming back to life and with the wifi signal I wrote up 90% of the night before with Rover. The last of it was mostly comical because Mechanico was trolling everyone including his companeros and these two hookers that were sitting next to us in a cafe at 5am.

Only one of the original girls was there and she brought her 2 cousins and a guy (apparently they were nervous). The girls were nervous and there was sort of an awkward silence. I grabbed the one I wanted and spoke to her briefly and then bought some beer for the table. We started drinking and within minutes the whole atmosphere was festive and we were laughing. We kept buying beer and discussing whether we should go to the river or not since it was getting late and raining. We decided to roll with it and loaded up on bottled beer. Ali and I hopped in with the girls, the guy hopped in with Mechanico and the driver and we headed to the grocery store and bought a lot more booze. Ali went with the girls to find food and came back with a turkey. These chicks had never had that before.

Their car wouldn't start and it was raining but we have El Mechanico with us and that shit was fixed in no time. Funny thing is they run it on gas and propane somehow so there was basically a big goddamn bomb in the very back chained down next to a giant speaker. We left and were drinking and driving going past endless shanties and jungle foilage towards the mountains listening to their music so loud it was hurting my ears while the girls sang along at the top of their lungs. At one point they turned the music down because Ali was telling me about the band and giving me this longwinded explanation of the origins regarding the band. Finally I just said "Silencio" and turned the music back on. The girls started laughing hysterically and it played right into 3's company game. We must have driven for 40 minutes on back roads. These little hovels with big plants and shit growing everywhere. Finally we got to this river and I have to say it was pretty scenic. I got into the water immediately, climbed up this latter and dove in while the girls set up the food. I could tell they were hungry but they were being patient.

They wanted to say a blessing because we told them about Thanksgiving Dinner so I had our driver translate while I said it. It really was a nice comfortable atmosphere and I said something along the lines of "Thankyou father for these new friends, even though we are far away from home, we feel at home here" along with the usual "please nourish this food to us" and all that. They seemed quite touched. Mechanico made our drinks and the girls were taking pictures with the turkey and of me carving it. We chowed down and drank and then went to a little bar type thing where we drank more, we then bounced to another place and bought some chocolate flavored cigars on the way and smoked them before figuring out logistics, which by this point it was pretty much understood we were going to a cabana.

My girl was licking my neck in the car like a teenager. At 20 she was just 100 pounds maybe and cute as hell. I'll post a pic of her cute little ass on the thread later.

We get into my room and of course it was on, I banged her twice and was getting ready for a third time when Ali's girl calls her and tells my chick that she's outside. Ali's girl comes in and just lays down on the bed and closes her eyes. My girls is between us and I'm a little irritated that this chick feels like she can just come over whenever she feels like it. I start rubbing my girl and she make it clear to me that she wants me to touch her friend. Next thing I know her friend is blowing me and she's just watching with this hungry look on her face, the next thing I know after that is the two girls are ALL over each other. I mean they aren't just hooking up they are MAKING LOVE. I'm doing the usual porno positions in threesomes but these chicks would probably be just as happy if I wasn't there. Ali's girl is licking my girls pussy so hard and fast and DEEP that it seemed like she had a special thing for my chick.

Ali and Mechanico can break down what happened with them. I'd just like to say that was one of the best thanksgiving dinners I've had.

It was the REAL Dominican if you know what I mean. I want to bang one of these girls in a shanty.

Post: #153

(11-23-2012 02:47 PM)Fisto Wrote:  When last I left you the girls we were supposed to go to the river with were just showing up. Prior to that Ali and Mechanico were just waking up in Santiago and neither of them felt like moving or calling the girls to meet at this river they knew of. I said I wanted to go and had the driver call the chicks. I told him to tell the girl I was coming down alone if I had to. Mechanico said fuck it he was in and we dragged Ali into the car basically threatening to have a meltdown. We had a nice drive. Ali passed out in the back and we stopped off for coconuts. By the time we got to the rendevouz point Ali was coming back to life and with the wifi signal I wrote up 90% of the night before with Rover. The last of it was mostly comical because Mechanico was trolling everyone including his companeros and these two hookers that were sitting next to us in a cafe at 5am.

Only one of the original girls was there and she brought her 2 cousins and a guy (apparently they were nervous). The girls were nervous and there was sort of an awkward silence. I grabbed the one I wanted and spoke to her briefly and then bought some beer for the table. We started drinking and within minutes the whole atmosphere was festive and we were laughing. We kept buying beer and discussing whether we should go to the river or not since it was getting late and raining. We decided to roll with it and loaded up on bottled beer. Ali and I hopped in with the girls, the guy hopped in with Mechanico and the driver and we headed to the grocery store and bought a lot more booze. Ali went with the girls to find food and came back with a turkey. These chicks had never had that before.

Their car wouldn't start and it was raining but we have El Mechanico with us and that shit was fixed in no time. Funny thing is they run it on gas and propane somehow so there was basically a big goddamn bomb in the very back chained down next to a giant speaker. We left and were drinking and driving going past endless shanties and jungle foilage towards the mountains listening to their music so loud it was hurting my ears while the girls sang along at the top of their lungs. At one point they turned the music down because Ali was telling me about the band and giving me this longwinded explanation of the origins regarding the band. Finally I just said "Silencio" and turned the music back on. The girls started laughing hysterically and it played right into 3's company game. We must have driven for 40 minutes on back roads. These little hovels with big plants and shit growing everywhere. Finally we got to this river and I have to say it was pretty scenic. I got into the water immediately, climbed up this latter and dove in while the girls set up the food. I could tell they were hungry but they were being patient.

They wanted to say a blessing because we told them about Thanksgiving Dinner so I had our driver translate while I said it. It really was a nice comfortable atmosphere and I said something along the lines of "Thankyou father for these new friends, even though we are far away from home, we feel at home here" along with the usual "please nourish this food to us" and all that. They seemed quite touched. Mechanico made our drinks and the girls were taking pictures with the turkey and of me carving it. We chowed down and drank and then went to a little bar type thing where we drank more, we then bounced to another place and bought some chocolate flavored cigars on the way and smoked them before figuring out logistics, which by this point it was pretty much understood we were going to a cabana.

My girl was licking my neck in the car like a teenager. At 20 she was just 100 pounds maybe and cute as hell. I'll post a pic of her cute little ass on the thread later.

We get into my room and of course it was on, I banged her twice and was getting ready for a third time when Ali's girl calls her and tells my chick that she's outside. Ali's girl comes in and just lays down on the bed and closes her eyes. My girls is between us and I'm a little irritated that this chick feels like she can just come over whenever she feels like it. I start rubbing my girl and she make it clear to me that she wants me to touch her friend. Next thing I know her friend is blowing me and she's just watching with this hungry look on her face, the next thing I know after that is the two girls are ALL over each other. I mean they aren't just hooking up they are MAKING LOVE. I'm doing the usual porno positions in threesomes but these chicks would probably be just as happy if I wasn't there. Ali's girl is licking my girls pussy so hard and fast and DEEP that it seemed like she had a special thing for my chick.

Ali and Mechanico can break down what happened with them. I'd just like to say that was one of the best thanksgiving dinners I've had.

It was the REAL Dominican if you know what I mean. I want to bang one of these girls in a shanty.

I am starting to lose respect for Dominican guys. They allow their women to do all this crazy shit with foreign guys. Not one of them has expressed outrage? If I do the same shit in Russia, I will be the first RVF member to die from unnatural causes lol.
But Fisto you uppered up the ante . I no longer want to go to the DR and just bang a new girl every other day. If I dont get a few threesomes, then it will feel like a failure. Keep up the good work.

Post: #154

Btw chochemonger, no girl has asked me for anything except the one girl wanted cab fare because she left with me. So far most girls have paid something. Last night my girl paid for half the cabana for example. This guy was a dick at first but we won him over.

Post: #155

(11-23-2012 03:25 PM)Fisto Wrote:  This guy was a dick at first but we won him over.

Thats the key thing here. These guys are not only gaming the Dominicanas but also the Dominicanos as well!

Post: #156

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I am starting to lose respect for Dominican guys. They allow their women to do all this crazy shit with foreign guys. Not one of them has expressed outrage? If I do the same shit in Russia, I will be the first RVF member to die from unnatural causes lol.
But Fisto you uppered up the ante . I no longer want to go to the DR and just bang a new girl every other day. If I dont get a few threesomes, then it will feel like a failure. Keep up the good work.

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too much cockblocking goes on by Dominicanos, some try to play smart and they are like your best mates but they are preparing to cockblock!

I was at a Pharmacy trying to game this woman, and the guy behind the counter and he's friend at the front knew what I was up to and just blurted out, "so you wanna fuck her?" ... awkward moment, But I just laughed it off, ignored them, and carried talking to this chick, DR really has great talent, but some of the girls expect for the foreign guy to pay for everything, and you just have to learn how to handle it, and show your not a walking bank.

Post: #157

I am starting to lose respect for Dominican guys. They allow their women to do all this crazy shit with foreign guys. Not one of them has expressed outrage? If I do the same shit in Russia, I will be the first RVF member to die from unnatural causes lol.
But Fisto you uppered up the ante . I no longer want to go to the DR and just bang a new girl every other day. If I dont get a few threesomes, then it will feel like a failure. Keep up the good work.

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too much cockblocking goes on by Dominicanos, some try to play smart and they are like your best mates but they are preparing to cockblock!

I was at a Pharmacy trying to game this woman, and the guy behind the counter and he's friend at the front knew what I was up to and just blurted out, "so you wanna fuck her?" ... awkward moment, But I just laughed it off, ignored them, and carried talking to this chick, DR really has great talent, but some of the girls expect for the foreign guy to pay for everything, and you just have to learn how to handle it, and show your not a walking bank.
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That seems to be the main problem in the DR. That is why i asked Fisto point blank if DR girls have asked for money or a gift, after he has banged them. He hasnt responded yet.
As to cockblockers, DR guys dont do such a good job and with so many easy girls running around, it is impossible for them to control things. Compare that to a Turkish or Greek cockblocker.

Post: #158

(11-23-2012 03:58 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  That seems to be the main problem in the DR. That is why i asked Fisto point blank if DR girls have asked for money or a gift, after he has banged them. He hasnt responded yet.

You learn pretty quickly which girls are likely to want money, and if in doubt, just ask point blank before taking them anywhere. You are still expected to pay for all meals and drinks, even if the girl is from a rich family. Most chicas appreciate money for taxi ride home, especially at night, when there are no other options - 150 to 200 pesos is just a bit under their average daily wage here so it's not nothing for them even if they have a job. Beyond that, if a girl asks for money, she is a pro or a semi pro.

My impression was that Fisto was never asked for anything beyond a taxi fare. The night the gang was in Santiago we were having breakfast in this restaurant at 5am and 2 chicas show up and start flirting - they did look semi-proish but then they had their own car, so we weren't sure. Fisto and El Mech decide they are down for some more and we start figuring out the logistics (cars, cabañas). I discreetly ask one girl about the money and she says that some money would be expected, the amount up to us (which means that a donation of 500 pesos will be adequate). I relay the news to Fisto and his face expression was priceless, I translated it as "what, no way, girls pay me to sleep with them". We brush the girls off and head back.

(11-23-2012 03:58 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  As to cockblockers, DR guys dont do such a good job and with so many easy girls running around, it is impossible for them to control things. Compare that to a Turkish or Greek cockblocker.

95% of DR guys are huge cowards, they'll sell their sisters if they have a chance. You lose any respect for them in the first couple of days, just ignore.

Post: #159

ok I understand what you are saying that we should not pay for sex but DR is different. Even if you don't pay directly you end up paying in the long run for clothes, cell phones, food. I know all the RVF members in DR will say they never pay, but I doubt that is entirely true.

500 pesos is like $13. horny at 5am I would have paid in a second. at most she is buying a phone card and some food for the family.

Post: #160

(11-23-2012 04:57 PM)jdelisi Wrote:  ok I understand what you are saying that we should not pay for sex but DR is different. Even if you don't pay directly you end up paying in the long run for clothes, cell phones, food. I know all the RVF members in DR will say they never pay, but I doubt that is entirely true.

500 pesos is like $13. horny at 5am I would have paid in a second. at most she is buying a phone card and some food for the family.

Fisto says he has only paid cab fare and sometimes food and drinks which is normal and I believe him 100 percent. Jdelisi, i believe you about the DR.... but just like in most latin countries you have to maintain the frame as the prize and then women wont ask for much. It is not very easy to do hough, but with perfect spanish or portuguguese it is not as much of a problem. So, a toast to Fisto´s good work without having fluent spanish. If it wasnt for him being backed up by so many trusted forum members, we might have thought he was another Deb lol.

Post: #161

(11-23-2012 04:57 PM)jdelisi Wrote:  ok I understand what you are saying that we should not pay for sex but DR is different. Even if you don't pay directly you end up paying in the long run for clothes, cell phones, food. I know all the RVF members in DR will say they never pay, but I doubt that is entirely true.

500 pesos is like $13. horny at 5am I would have paid in a second. at most she is buying a phone card and some food for the family.

I think there is a difference between paying for an act of sexual intercourse and paying for a restaurant meal. If you date girls who have jobs and cars in DR, it's not different than any other country. Ok, there is a difference - if you go out and your girl brings another friend/sister, you are still expected to pay for the whole thing as the bill is always split between just male members of the party if there is at least one. This is annoying and I haven't quite figured how to control this.

For the record, I paid to a semi-pro in DR a couple of times, - I was hammered and horny and the girl was cute. Always a subpar experience in terms of sex. That was a long time ago. And sure, some chicas try to hit you for clothes, cell phones, hair extensions - then you are just a sugar daddy/donor for them, 'el pendejo' is a local term of endearment they assign you. Drop them quick and move on to better girls, they are out there.

Post: #162

(11-23-2012 05:50 PM)rover Wrote:  

(11-23-2012 04:57 PM)jdelisi Wrote:  ok I understand what you are saying that we should not pay for sex but DR is different. Even if you don't pay directly you end up paying in the long run for clothes, cell phones, food. I know all the RVF members in DR will say they never pay, but I doubt that is entirely true.

500 pesos is like $13. horny at 5am I would have paid in a second. at most she is buying a phone card and some food for the family.

I think there is a difference between paying for an act of sexual intercourse and paying for a restaurant meal. If you date girls who have jobs and cars in DR, it's not different than any other country. Ok, there is a difference - if you go out and your girl brings another friend/sister, you are still expected to pay for the whole thing as the bill is always split between just male members of the party if there is at least one. This is annoying and I haven't quite figured how to control this.

For the record, I paid to a semi-pro in DR a couple of times, - I was hammered and horny and the girl was cute. Always a subpar experience in terms of sex. That was a long time ago. And sure, some chicas try to hit you for clothes, cell phones, hair extensions - then you are just a sugar daddy/donor for them, 'el pendejo' is a local term of endearment they assign you. Drop them quick and move on to better girls, they are out there.

I know how to deal with those type of girls in Latin America, but it can become a pain in the ass. In Brazil, i havent had to deal with that....which is the only positive of its increasing economic power. For me personally, if i feel like I am paying a semipro directly or indirectly my boner takes a giant leap down the cliff. Either way going to the DR is a must, at least once in a lifetime.

Post: #163

I believe him also. Ali has laid most of the ground work and I am sure the evil driver(a walking breathing data sheet) helps as well. I would be skeptical of his tales if Fisto just randomly landed in DR with no Spanish and contacts and all of the sudden was fucking a different hot lizard every night. Before reading Abayarde dispatches from the D, I would have said that being White has a lot to do with it but Abayarde is Black and he was killing it as well. I am very interested in reading reports from DR from posters with "poor to average" Game. Maybe I was wrong when I wrote off the DR as P4P cesspool a long time ago.

@Fisto, great writing.

Post: #164

I think Ali/Mech have to invest in a RVF headquarters based in DR.
I am sure there are enough takers on here, I went to DR years ago but this thread is making me want to re-visit.

Ali - how much longer are you going to stay there?

Post: #165

What I'm realizing from gaming these girls and lacking Spanish is that body language is super important, being relaxed, eye contact, a warm smile go very far. I also would have an incredibly hard time without a guy like our driver around. When there's a hang up with the conversation or something complex needs to be expressed he steps in and keeps things moving. Theres a certain point where they no longer care what you say or can't say. They just want to be close to you. Also, I think they like the effort I make trying to speak. I met a 70 year old player in the lobby of the hotel we are at, he was showing me these photos of girls he's talking to. He refuses to get pros but openly admits to buying food for girls families or something that betters them. It applies to this thread and I agree with rover, we all know you are paying one way or another, the difference is that one way the girl sleeps with you because it's her part of the transaction and the other one is because she WANTS to out of genuine affection. They don't perceive they are being bought because they think you just really like them when you pay for drinks or dinner. Not paying 500 pesos wasn't a big deal. I'm not too good to bang a pro, it's just that my level of horniness to number of prospects ratio wasn't in favor of it.
Ali's hot ass girl from the 2nd night is bringing her younger sister. We are running mechanics logistic game. I was pretty tired from last night but had a quick workout in the room, went next door to eat, then took a 2 hour nap. Feeling much better.

Post: #166

Also player with a passport, elabayarde may be embellishing on his success. The driver was telling me he doesn't do well and the other brothers on the forum that came also had a hard time for various reasons. If you come here broke, you don't have any value, he was telling me guys were complaining about having to buy beers in clubs and other stuff. We are staying in decent places, when girls ask where you stay and you tell them some dump. They judge you.

Post: #167

I'm also loving the reports from the DR coming here. Good job guys, specially Fisto. Mechanico and Ali are also cracking me up. I'd love to roll with these guys. Btw, I'm getting quite curious too about the DR and am tempted to come join you guys sometimes in Jan/Feb. Are you guys still going to be in DR by then?

Fisto, how much are you paying for the driver? IS that the same one that Ali was using? it's an awesome idea to have a driver with you guys at all times. Maybe that's something we should also be doing when we get to Russia next year in the fall as opposed to driving ourselves as the local knowledge and contacts the driver would provide would be absolutely priceless. Also, how much is a decent place to stay at near the action in the places you guys are going? Just to get some rough idea.

(11-23-2012 06:37 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I think Ali/Mech have to invest in a RVF headquarters based in DR.
I am sure there are enough takers on here, I went to DR years ago but this thread is making me want to re-visit.

Ali - how much longer are you going to stay there?

Post: #168

Is there a hotel in Santiago that you guys recommend? My criteria is that it is relatively inexpensive, is not a dump that would scare girls away, and that they don't charge guest fees or ask girls for I.D. I know someone said that Matum is a good option. Does Matum give you any problems with bringing girls into the hotel?

Post: #169

(11-23-2012 07:19 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  Is there a hotel in Santiago that you guys recommend? My criteria is that it is relatively inexpensive, is not a dump that would scare girls away, and that they don't charge guest fees or ask girls for I.D. I know someone said that Matum is a good option. Does Matum give you any problems with bringing girls into the hotel?

Matum is ok, good location close to the Monument, they have no problem whatsoever with girls. Last time I asked, they charged 2,600 pesos for night - they can drop 300 pesos if you negotiate. Wifi only in the lobby, skip the free breakfast. The club downstairs is full of pros and semipros. Aloha del Sol is better for 2K/night but the location is a bit away from the Monument, 10 minute by foot through empty (at night) street. No problem with girls, wifi in rooms, great free breakfast. Another good option is Hotel Los Jardines which is in a great area but I think they charge extra for "guests".

Post: #170

In the Carribbean specifically Cuba, Dominican and Haiti a lot of "soft prostitution" goes on. Its doesn't attract the same response it would here and is considered much more acceptable there. Fisto's stories are very likely to be true. But is he getting virgins or good girls at this rate without good spanish and relying on body language / money no. He'd be getting the girls who hang around with foreigners I won't say regularily but it wouldn't be an uncommon experience. I doubt hes paying them in the sense directly like a couple people have been asked. The exception being the lesbian show...which is completely believable I would just say that theres a very good chance a "donation" was made and Fisto seems pretty against that so maybe another one of the guys sent her his way. Money to us that seems laughable to them is a lot. We may laugh at the idea of giving a girl 15 dollars in cab fare. But to them thats a days wages and with all the partying they enjoy / in some cases making money on the backend its significant to them.

Post: #171

elabayarde

(11-23-2012 06:56 PM)Fisto Wrote:  Also player with a passport, elabayarde may be embellishing on his success. The driver was telling me he doesn't do well and the other brothers on the forum that came also had a hard time for various reasons. If you come here broke, you don't have any value, he was telling me guys were complaining about having to buy beers in clubs and other stuff. We are staying in decent places, when girls ask where you stay and you tell them some dump. They judge you.

When you say embellishing do you mean you believe El abayarde was hyping his DR experiences?

Post: #172

Money in the carribbean is a huge factor as Fisto has alluded to. A guy can be twice your age but if he is showing significantly more monetary value you will likely get smoked regardless of how handsome you are. Thankfully, the amount of guys rolling in with enough money to "stand out" is so slim that its near irrelevant. By contrast, a very large amount of tourists are too low budget to maximize success.

Post: #173

(11-23-2012 07:34 PM)rover Wrote:  

(11-23-2012 07:19 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  Is there a hotel in Santiago that you guys recommend? My criteria is that it is relatively inexpensive, is not a dump that would scare girls away, and that they don't charge guest fees or ask girls for I.D. I know someone said that Matum is a good option. Does Matum give you any problems with bringing girls into the hotel?

Matum is ok, good location close to the Monument, they have no problem whatsoever with girls. Last time I asked, they charged 2,600 pesos for night - they can drop 300 pesos if you negotiate. Wifi only in the lobby, skip the free breakfast. The club downstairs is full of pros and semipros. Aloha del Sol is better for 2K/night but the location is a bit away from t
he Monument, 10 minute by foot through empty (at night) street. No problem with girls, wifi in rooms, great free breakfast. Another good option is Hotel Los Jardines which is in a great area but I think they charge extra for "guests".

Thank you. Just one last question. Do you know how Hotel Platino is?

Post: #174

This is one of the greatest threads on the forum.

Can we make the driver a moderator?

Post: #175

(11-23-2012 06:56 PM)Fisto Wrote:  Also player with a passport, elabayarde may be embellishing on his success. The driver was telling me he doesn't do well and the other brothers on the forum that came also had a hard time for various reasons. If you come here broke, you don't have any value, he was telling me guys were complaining about having to buy beers in clubs and other stuff. We are staying in decent places, when girls ask where you stay and you tell them some dump. They judge you.

When you say other brothers from the forum had a hard time here, i think i have to say something on here (i will let elbayarde speak for himself if he thinks he has to say something).

First of all, what good looking brother that is fluent in spanish wont get normal chicks in DR? DR is the last place you will complain about not getting free pussy. I mean, if you dont speak spanish, its obvious that you will only mess with semi pros or pros but when you mad fluent in spanish and you dont mind waiting 2 or 3 dates to get a bang, there is no way you will have a difficult time here in DR. The driver knows about me, i will be very surprised if he tells you that i had a hard time on here.

To other black guys on here, i wouldnt know how successful you can be in DR. Me and elbayarde are on another league, we are immersed in dominican culture like no other gringo, we speak good spanish,we are super social people, i seriously dont see how these characteristics will make you have a hard time in DR.