Post: #26

(04-14-2017 01:13 PM)Repo Wrote:  In my experience hot religious girls are just as bad as regular girls. They just try to hide it more.

Although it may seem paradoxical, it is important to remember that a woman who gives off the air of being an innocent vunerable harmless saint in public, but is a total rampant hot slut in private is a lot less dangerous, compared to the type of women who advertises it openly to the world without shame. The main difference in the 2 types of women and their expressions of powerful untamed female sexuality, is the woman's effort in maintaining high levels of discretion.

The difference may seem trivial and totally irrelevant to many men, but in my opinion the distinction is vital to a stable society. The woman's effort in the maintaince of her own public reputation and that of her parents and possible husband and children is what distinguishes a selfish egotistcal woman from a righteous (and possibly religious) one. Many religious men may consider even a private slut as blasphemy, but it is irrealistic to expect a highly attractive sexualy charged woman to control her desires all the time. That level of ultimate self control is only reserved for alpha men and/or women who are lead/controlled by such men.

If I have to chose between the 2 types of women, I close the public saint/private slut each time. The shameless public slut destroys families and societies. The discrete private hidden slut usually does not. The fact that she able to maintain the facade of 2 distinct personalities for the greater good of family and society, is also a lot more attractive and sexually exciting for me. When you finally see her slutty side, she shows it only to you, and you alone. No one else gets to see it. Those kind of women are what I consider to be the hottest and sexiest in existence.



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Post: #27

Eh.

Post: #28

(04-14-2017 05:55 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 01:13 PM)Repo Wrote:  In my experience hot religious girls are just as bad as regular girls. They just try to hide it more.

Although it may seem paradoxical, it is important to remember that a woman who gives off the air of being an innocent vunerable harmless saint in public, but is a total rampant hot slut in private is a lot less dangerous, compared to the type of women who advertises it openly to the world without shame. The main difference in the 2 types of women and their expressions of powerful untamed female sexuality, is the woman's effort in maintaining high levels of discretion.

The difference may seem trivial and totally irrelevant to many men, but in my opinion the distinction is vital to a stable society. The woman's effort in the maintaince of her own public reputation and that of her parents and possible husband and children is what distinguishes a selfish egotistcal woman from a righteous (and possibly religious) one. Many religious men may consider even a private slut as blasphemy, but it is irrealistic to expect a highly attractive sexualy charged woman to control her desires all the time. That level of ultimate self control is only reserved for alpha men and/or women who are lead/controlled by such men.

If I have to chose between the 2 types of women, I close the public saint/private slut each time. The shameless public slut destroys families and societies. The discrete private hidden slut usually does not. The fact that she able to maintain the facade of 2 distinct personalities for the greater good of family and society, is also a lot more attractive and sexually exciting for me. When you finally see her slutty side, she shows it only to you, and you alone. No one else gets to see it. Those kind of women are what I consider to be the hottest and sexiest in existence.



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If being private slut is blasphemy do those men want a frigid woman for a wife? Indeed not because their marriage bed would be a total romp with those "private sluts'' or I would call good and dutiful wives.

They make their husband happy be reserving their wild sexuality only for them. So what's really the problem?

Post: #29

I don't think that's the distinction he's trying to make. The point is that even if they are sluts, at least maintaining an appearance of decency benefits society.

Worth noting based on some previous (new) comments: the Catholic church does indeed, teach that marriage is sacred and does not recognize divorce. However it says absolutely nothing about a secular divorce and separation. Even if you 100% follow church teachings you are under no obligation to continue to live with a wife who is catching more sausage than the grill at a neighborhood BBQ.

Post: #30

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Post: #31

(04-14-2017 07:07 PM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  If being private slut is blasphemy do those men want a frigid woman for a wife? Indeed not because their marriage bed would be a total romp with those "private sluts'' or I would call good and dutiful wives.

They make their husband happy be reserving their wild sexuality only for them. So what's really the problem?

If you marry a virgin (or a low notch count girl) but she turns out to be a frigid wife this often (but not always) down to 2 things. Either is the result of the husband not being alpha enough (acting too beta) or simply bad chemistry as a couple. This is why in the past a period of courtship (without sex) existed before marriage. To see if a couple had a good energy exchange. Often this was done by seeing if the couple could dance well together. Man leading and woman following that man. If the dance didn't work properly, it was not a good sign from them to be together. There were also other ways of testing good compatibility without sex. The more girls I am with, the more I realise that I can simply tell from kissing a girl, if the sex between us will be good or not. Pleasurable kissing always lead to good sex in my case.

As for a private slut....In this case I also meant a woman who cheats on her husband or otherwise acts promiscuous in some way. Those that do in secret have to work a lot harder (and be under more stress) to keep it a secret, but they do so to keep everything else in their public lives stable so at least the appearance of decency is maintained, outside accusations have little foundation, and nothing can be proven outright.

Even if you marry a religious girl/virgin it is STILL your job as a husband not only to monitor, discipline and train your wife well in many things, but also to ensure she never even gets the desire to be with another man. Virginity and religion definetley gives you much better odds in your favour that she will be faithful, but it is NOT foolproof. Gaming your wife (relationship game) is just as important as gaming to get a girl in the first place. You must not get lazy in your manly duties. If you let your guard down for too long, bad things can still happen.

Even today, both men and women instinctually look at what kind of man the husbands was when a wife cheats....it's like deep down we still know that is where to find the underlying causes of a lot of female marital infedility.

Post: #32

Religious girls are a cut above if they haven't been ruined by college and/or alcohol induced one night stands (god bless socially acceptable binge drinking).

Sometimes I really wonder what the advantage of a girl 'knows what she's doing' is? She can fit more of my dick in her mouth? She can put her ass up faster? It's a joke. It all feels the same whether she's a "pro" or a novice.

If you think about it, there is almost no point in marrying a girl who is not a virgin. What is she trading you in return for your freedom and a lifetime of protection - her used pussy? Being married is really about having kids, and who is going to be a better mother, an amoral chick with low impulse control (welcome to America) or the "Jesus freak" who has some sense of a higher purpose and self control.

Imo there is a window of opportunity for younger players to find one of these girls and put her on lock. I'm in my later 20's now and that has slipped. At this point all of my prospects are post college sorority girls and other randoms that want to be defiled and treated like human sex toys.

Post: #33

(04-14-2017 10:42 PM)mhnd Wrote:  Religious girls are a cut above if they haven't been ruined by college and/or alcohol induced one night stands (god bless socially acceptable binge drinking).

Sometimes I really wonder what the advantage of a girl 'knows what she's doing' is? She can fit more of my dick in her mouth? She can put her ass up faster? It's a joke. It all feels the same whether she's a "pro" or a novice.

If you think about it, there is almost no point in marrying a girl who is not a virgin. What is she trading you in return for your freedom and a lifetime of protection - her used pussy? Being married is really about having kids, and who is going to be a better mother, an amoral chick with low impulse control (welcome to America) or the "Jesus freak" who has some sense of a higher purpose and self control.

Imo there is a window of opportunity for younger players to find one of these girls and put her on lock. I'm in my later 20's now and that has slipped. At this point all of my prospects are post college sorority girls and other randoms that want to be defiled and treated like human sex toys.

Damn, that hits close to home. I had a few opportunities but those are gone now.

It's too bad these girls are now considered freaks when they really should be the normal. Now when I run into those girls I don't know what to do because I've been training to bang sluts my whole life.

Post: #34

The Anglosphere is too far gone now, these girls are not to be trusted.

Post: #35

(04-15-2017 12:26 AM)Moreless Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 10:42 PM)mhnd Wrote:  Religious girls are a cut above if they haven't been ruined by college and/or alcohol induced one night stands (god bless socially acceptable binge drinking).

Sometimes I really wonder what the advantage of a girl 'knows what she's doing' is? She can fit more of my dick in her mouth? She can put her ass up faster? It's a joke. It all feels the same whether she's a "pro" or a novice.

If you think about it, there is almost no point in marrying a girl who is not a virgin. What is she trading you in return for your freedom and a lifetime of protection - her used pussy? Being married is really about having kids, and who is going to be a better mother, an amoral chick with low impulse control (welcome to America) or the "Jesus freak" who has some sense of a higher purpose and self control.

Imo there is a window of opportunity for younger players to find one of these girls and put her on lock. I'm in my later 20's now and that has slipped. At this point all of my prospects are post college sorority girls and other randoms that want to be defiled and treated like human sex toys.

Damn, that hits close to home. I had a few opportunities but those are gone now.

It's too bad these girls are now considered freaks when they really should be the normal. Now when I run into those girls I don't know what to do because I've been training to bang sluts my whole life.

The curse of game. It's all fun and games until you realize that you don't know what to do with a good thing when it comes your way. This why I'm no longer interested in game. I know everything there is to know about real game, and here it is :

Be reasonably good looking
Be reasonably intelligent
Be reasonably cool
Be reasonably nice
Have a reasonable income
Have standards and know how to spot the good and the bad
Leave the west and start seeking

Everything else is either totally unnecessary, over the top, or tacky, and only appealing to low quality females. Learning western game is like doing a course in how to become invisible to quality girls as well as how to make them invisible to you. Where have all the good women gone indeed.

Post: #36

The other downside of this is that we can become overly cynical. You know how all those post-college feminist writers hate men because of the douchebags they sleep around with? We're not entirely immune to it. I've noticed a lot of guys tend to get in a spot where the girls who actually are nice fall out of their cognition entirely and you pick up an absolutist "AWALT" mentality when in reality "AAWALT"(almost all). I do suspect geography plays a role in that as well. If you've spent all your life in leftist utopia cities one very easily could conclude that there are "no" good women left because your personal reality is that there are no nice women. Same way that I get why liberals all buy global warming hook line and sinker then your reality is one where nature only exists at man-made ski resorts, so it's very easy to believe that humans have destroyed the planet.


That said I think there's one thing you left off your list about game, which is being able to fuck. Even a good girl is less tempted to stray if nothing she hears about sex from friends/family sounds close to what she gets at home. Plus if your game is at a very high level it has some other psychological benefits.

Post: #37

Most Catholic girls will put out. They are held to an impossible standard and understand that they will not always meet it.

Post: #38

(04-14-2017 05:55 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  The difference may seem trivial and totally irrelevant to many men, but in my opinion the distinction is vital to a stable society. The woman's effort in the maintaince of her own public reputation and that of her parents and possible husband and children is what distinguishes a selfish egotistcal woman from a righteous (and possibly religious) one. Many religious men may consider even a private slut as blasphemy, but it is irrealistic to expect a highly attractive sexualy charged woman to control her desires all the time. That level of ultimate self control is only reserved for alpha men and/or women who are lead/controlled by such men.

I'm not disagreeing, but I would point out that anecdotally, protecting a public reputation appears to be one of the major motivations for false rape claims. IE, her new boyfriend finds out she got skull-fucked in the coat closet at a cocktail party the night they met, suddenly she was drunk and didn't know what she was doing because she would never do that, and now her friends are encouraging her to report this monstrous predator.

Lies, and the distances people will go to protect them, are always something to be wary of.

Post: #39

(04-15-2017 08:16 AM)Hypno Wrote:  Most Catholic girls will put out. They are held to an impossible standard and understand that they will not always meet it.

It's only impossible if they believe it is. The ones who believe it's both possible and reasonable are a good catch if you can find them.

Post: #40

I think that a girl who sees herself as strongly religious, but is that dreaded of all women, the Christian Tease, is much worse than the woman who is a secret slut. She is the kind of girl who flirts outrageously with her eyes and her body, while never actually saying anything that goes over the line, and has all sorts of men in her orbit thinking they have a chance, when really she is just basking in the attention and power of it all.

And then when guys react to her non verbal provocations, she quickly retreats in the safety of fake piety--What kind of a girl do you think I am?

She is spiritually much more damaging to herself and to society than some girl who indulges her physical needs.

The secret slut is just weak. The Christian Tease is actually perverting the meaning of her own faith in order to gain the earthly reward of male attention.

It is a deep betrayal of her faith, and that is why Jesus was so forgiving of people at the bottom of society who gave into simple temptations, and saved his harshest words for the spiritual leaders who hid their vices behind a facade of godliness.

That is why Jesus said in Matthew 18:16:

Quote:But if you cause one of these little ones who trusts in me to fall into sin, it would be better for you to have a large millstone tied around your neck and be drowned in the depths of the sea.

That is also why he said Matthew 12:31:

Quote:Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.

There is nothing worse in the Christian world, in his opinion, than using Christianity in order to achieve your own sinful desires; it is a betrayal of the highest order, because it not on insults God, and damages you, it turns others away from the faith because it makes people dismiss Christianity out of hand when they see the hypocrisy of Christians.

You would be better off a moral atheist than someone using God's spirit to your own ends, and that includes you, Christian Teases, so get it together.

Post: #41

To the guy who said his window has slipped because he's in his late 20s: I met my religious virgin (now wife) when I was 32. But my age is irrelevant, its her age (early 20s, young and innocent) that matters. There's nothing stopping you to find younger women. Don't create restrictions for yourself.

Post: #42

I attend services at a conservative Catholic cathedral that gives the traditional Tridentine (Latin) Mass exclusively. There is a young adult group. Attending one of the swing dancing get-togethers in about two weeks, so I Facebook-stalked the interested women.

Some stuff I noticed - all were very vocally anti-abortion, and all tried as hard as they could to look as pretty and inviting as they could. There were a few 5.5's and 6's in the group that were so well-dressed and poised, they looked almost like 8's at first glance. Not ONE resting bitch face to be seen.

I'm sure a good number of them aren't virgins - but I'll take that over the girl I overheard in a bar last night talking about how one time a guy poured beer into her ass while she was blowing him.

Post: #43

As a continuation of my last post, I feel the need to talk about one of the best first dates I ever had. It was with a conservative girl who was a very talented violinist. She was so busy practicing, she'd managed to skip the whole college party scene. She was a fantastic kisser, too.

The whole thing ended up fizzling out after a couple of weeks, but I've been going over that date in my head from time to time. She was no makeout veteran and had some awkward issues with following my pace and all...but it was overall great because she was into me and so eager to kiss me. Sex can't be too much different, really. Don't humans instinctively know how to do it?

Post: #44

(04-15-2017 10:30 PM)stugatz Wrote:  As a continuation of my last post, I feel the need to talk about one of the best first dates I ever had. It was with a conservative girl who was a very talented violinist. She was so busy practicing, she'd managed to skip the whole college party scene. She was a fantastic kisser, too.

Women who do creative things are always good ones. I love them--dancers, actresses, musicians, singers.

Post: #45

^ I've noticed a lot of these "Jesus freak" girls tend to be artistic/creative types too. Lots of them can sing, play instruments, write prose/poetry and are into stereotypical "artsy" things. If you guys have ever been to Hillsong-style churches and worship services then you probably know what I'm talking about. These sort of churches are heavy on emotional expression so it's not surprising these type of women. I've been going to this one ministry and during a service it's common to see girls dancing (actual dancing not club booty popping), writing in their dairies, or even paint.

Post: #46

(04-15-2017 12:26 AM)Moreless Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 10:42 PM)mhnd Wrote:  Religious girls are a cut above if they haven't been ruined by college and/or alcohol induced one night stands (god bless socially acceptable binge drinking).

Sometimes I really wonder what the advantage of a girl 'knows what she's doing' is? She can fit more of my dick in her mouth? She can put her ass up faster? It's a joke. It all feels the same whether she's a "pro" or a novice.

If you think about it, there is almost no point in marrying a girl who is not a virgin. What is she trading you in return for your freedom and a lifetime of protection - her used pussy? Being married is really about having kids, and who is going to be a better mother, an amoral chick with low impulse control (welcome to America) or the "Jesus freak" who has some sense of a higher purpose and self control.

Imo there is a window of opportunity for younger players to find one of these girls and put her on lock. I'm in my later 20's now and that has slipped. At this point all of my prospects are post college sorority girls and other randoms that want to be defiled and treated like human sex toys.

Damn, that hits close to home. I had a few opportunities but those are gone now.

It's too bad these girls are now considered freaks when they really should be the normal. Now when I run into those girls I don't know what to do because I've been training to bang sluts my whole life.

Well said. I agree it is fucked up that these girls are almost like social outcasts in a way. They are seen as 'prudes' and shit on by their "popular" friends. I have seen this from high school through post college life. The problem is 'the culture'. 9 times out of 10 it overrides her upbringing. Social media programming has accelerated the decline of the family structure and widespread moral depravity. I receive the benefit of that in terms of sex, but obviously there are downsides. Basically college is sort of the assembly line for churning out vapid sluts. I have met only 1 or 2 marriage worthy females in the past 5 years, and they were foreign/first generation American and valued being mothers at the same level as a career.

Having said all of that as a man it's much easier for me to adapt and exploit the culture to my benefit, and I do. My instincts allow me to focus on survival and accumulating resources for my own gain especially when there is no family to put food on the table for. I also have the foresight to understand how my decisions will affect me in 20, 30 years so there is no sense of regret, unlike those who want to have their cake and eat it too. Basically this environment means not having any obligations of any sort to society or my country. I've come to enjoy that role. I won't ever completely give up on having a family, but I also have to be realistic given my observations and life experiences.

Strikeback - Thanks for the words of encouragement. I salute your achievements and strategic aptitude in building a family legacy. The future belongs to you. That is the highest level of achievement one can obtain.

Post: #47

(04-14-2017 10:42 PM)mhnd Wrote:  Well said. I agree it is fucked up that these girls are almost like social outcasts in a way. They are seen as 'prudes' and shit on by their "popular" friends. I have seen this from high school through post college life. The problem is 'the culture'. 9 times out of 10 it overrides her upbringing.

The culture is very strong - mockery is a hell of a strong thing, and it led me away from the church at the end of high school. (Interest in history and a genuine desire to understand my family's traditions kept me from becoming completely hostile to religion, though.)

Whenever I mentioned during the first few years of college that I sometimes went to church out of habit, I usually got a response along the lines of: "All of the TV shows we watch make consistent fun of Christians and you're still one of them? Are you in a cult or something?" I have now set up my work schedule so I can secretly go to church and not have to tell atheist acquaintances that might mock me. I've given up on explaining anything to them.

The worst part is that this isn't what I want...I don't want to have friends that all have the exact same values that I do. I wouldn't mind hanging out with atheists and lapsed Christians - but it's getting to a point where I have no other choice if I want to maintain my own values.

Post: #48

^ As someone who's decided to try and get back on the walk with God since last year I can relate a lot to what you are saying. I'm assuming you are from the Millennial generation as well because of the way you've talked about the way your peers speak on Christianity. It's pretty much the same with me and the people I'm mostly surrounded with. Our generation has been exposed to more anti-Christian media and propaganda more then any other generation and that faith has become an easy target and punching bag for anyone who wants to appear to be edgy but still remain in a safe zone where they won't bring down widespread social condemnation from everyone around them.

I would say that most people of the people in my social circles with are anywhere from just merely secular to down right hostile towards religion. I'm not the type of person that will cut people off for having an opposite value system from me (I'm usually on the receiving end of these purges) but I do think it's important to have a spiritual community of some sort that you can draw strength from. I know a lot of men like to think of ourselves as these lone wolves that doesn't answer to anyone and can stand up to any sort of attack but I've found that the times I've tried to go at it alone thinking that my self-will and spiritual strength is just so powerful that I certainly won't bend with the prevailing cultural winds like so many people do are the times where I've lapsed the most. Point is that I don't think you need to cut off your secular friends but I think you also do need to have peers who are on the same page with you in terms of values. I know that now that I have found people who are devoted to walking the narrow path and regularly associate with them that it's easier for me to get avoid tangled up in the shenanigans of my other friends who don't share the same values.

To bring it back to subject of "Jesus freak" girls, the sort of religious groups I've been frequenting tend to have pretty good gender ratios so there's plenty of these girls around. I can't pretend to know the inner life of everyone of them and how many of them are secret freaks but I think I would prefer a girl would is at least making some sort of attempt to live up to the ideal however imperfectly rather then someone who isn't trying at all because they don't even have those ideals in the first place. These girls are indeed seen as social outcasts but that's the way it's supposed to be. They're supposed to be living a life that marks them different from the rest of the world. As you guys said, peer pressure is indeed powerful and I think it's even more so with women since they tend to be more conscious of the opinions of other people in their cliques. Again, that's why strong spiritual communities are important.

Post: #49

I will second the point about women getting mocked. My wife was a virgin when I met her (age 21) and a lot of her coworkers were talking about her behind her back (she was the supervisor) about how she must be a lesbian because she wasn't sleeping around.

Regarding male acquaintances I've found it effective to throw their own conditioned rhetoric back at them. I genuinely believe that it is incredibly closed minded to simply assime that human perception is the limit of reality, so being part of a non-literalist sect like Catholicism helps me search for spiritual truth. It also helps that a lot of SWPL cities like NYC and Boston have a strong Irish Catholic influence which helps make the religion more socially acceptable, as does their (only partially accurate) impression of Francis.

Post: #50

The very first thread I posted on this forum was about so-called "Jesus freaks" and how they make the best wives and mothers. I stand by that assessment. If you're looking for a wifey, try a conservative church in your area (in whatever denomination you associate with). Typically, these kinds of radical Christian families keep their daughters on a tight leash to one day pass them off to a husband to take care of them. The belief is women are the "weaker vessel" and should be treated...like women. They're taught homemaking skills and how to take good care of their husbands.

Just like Judas was an apostate Christian, be wary of apostate "Jesus freaks" who are on their way out with God and will soon backslide into a leftist feminist Marxist dyke. Look out for signs of stubbornness, a lack of dedication to her faith and decreasing interest in the church.