Post: #226

good thing deciding against Toronto, vicious. now as for predicting how you would have found it... I like to shy away from sweeping statements, because I'm not the most experienced guy out there and I like to hold out in the belief that anything's possible. but I've seen enough that I'd be prepared to say this. if you were somehow able to SNL a 7 or higher, early 20s thin white girl, from the standard nightgame areas, then I would be extremely, extremely surprised. tall aesthetic swede or not, that shit just doesn't happen here.

anyway, has anybody been to bloke & 4th on king st? two of my friends said that it's the busy spot on tuesday nights. I decided to check it out last night. $10 cover, $9 drinks, to a completely empty venue at 11:30 that I learned is not supposed to fill up until 12:30. like roosh said, I don't understand how a city with 4 million people can be so bad.

Post: #227

Seriously guys, I simply cannot believe that hot girls in Toronto don't have sex. There must be something that's being overlooked.

Post: #228

(02-12-2014 11:44 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Seriously guys, I simply cannot believe that hot girls in Toronto don't have sex. There must be something that's being overlooked.

Social circle game is king. That's why cold approach is relatively harder here.

Toronto is also big on online dating (Canadians/Torontonians rank very high/highest on social media usage, forgot where I read that).

Post: #229

(02-12-2014 11:44 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Seriously guys, I simply cannot believe that hot girls in Toronto don't have sex. There must be something that's being overlooked.

at the end of the day they do, just not with Mr. Random Club Guy.

unless he's a solid point or two better looking... then maybe they'll give him a shot. maybe. he gets upgraded to Mr. Random Hot Club Guy. still Random though.

Post: #230

This guy is in Toronto and daygame seems to be wide open. Or is it all scripted bullshit?

Post: #231

(02-12-2014 11:53 AM)Peregrine Wrote:  Toronto is also big on online dating (Canadians/Torontonians rank very high/highest on social media usage, forgot where I read that).

From the Montreal thread:

(02-07-2014 11:01 AM)HankRearden Wrote:  OKC is indeed deserted for Montreal and far from ideal in Toronto. Canadians tend to look on skeptically in respect to online dating. I don't have one friend male or female who has admitted to using it.

You Canadians are confusing me!

Post: #232

(02-12-2014 12:07 PM)RougeNoir Wrote:  This guy is in Toronto and daygame seems to be wide open. Or is it all scripted bullshit?

Not sure how to address your post. A video showing a guy getting numbers during the day != "daygame seems to be wide open". You can meet girls and get numbers during the day anywhere in the world (where there are girls). Perhaps you can elaborate on your point.

(02-12-2014 12:49 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

(02-12-2014 11:53 AM)Peregrine Wrote:  Toronto is also big on online dating (Canadians/Torontonians rank very high/highest on social media usage, forgot where I read that).

From the Montreal thread:

(02-07-2014 11:01 AM)HankRearden Wrote:  OKC is indeed deserted for Montreal and far from ideal in Toronto. Canadians tend to look on skeptically in respect to online dating. I don't have one friend male or female who has admitted to using it.

You Canadians are confusing me!

Apparently Toronto doesn't make top 10 cities for active OKC profiles in the last year, so scratch that.

Post: #233

(02-12-2014 01:11 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  Not sure how to address your post. A video showing a guy getting numbers during the day != "daygame seems to be wide open". You can meet girls and get numbers during the day anywhere in the world (where there are girls). Perhaps you can elaborate on your point.

(02-12-2014 11:53 AM)Peregrine Wrote:  Social circle game is king. That's why cold approach is relatively harder here.

Toronto is also big on online dating (Canadians/Torontonians rank very high/highest on social media usage, forgot where I read that).

I responded to the emboldened above. I am not saying you are incorrect in saying circle game is king. I am saying cold approaching cannot be too bad if this guy with game does it pretty well. Nevertheless, there's no way to gauge if he's able to follow up with them or bang them.

Post: #234

Social Circle game doesn't explain it though because that's how every regular person gets laid.

Post: #235

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Agreed.
I stopped going to clubs here unless it is special occasion or special event. I mean if you have game and decent looks you still get some numbers but scoring on the first night with a attractive young Caucasian women is very tough here but can happen. I think cities which get a lot more tourists into the mix like NY, Vegas, Montreal, etc are way better for gaming.

Vicious - I see you like Asians and the city does have many Oriental women for instance but they tend to be more conservative then for instance what you see in the Big Apple.

Post: #236

I have no special interest in Asians. They just come easier to me than most.

Post: #237

Toronto girls generally complain about the men, saying crap like they are not man enough. Sadly, i will say some of this maybe true because the men cater to them far too much.
For me they are not worth the time, I have gotten much better quality in other places with less effort. There are hot girls here but they know they are hot. Plus they all generally have some dude or another one waiting in the wings. They are like monkeys, swinging from one dude to another and looking for the next best thing. I meet girls and it seems they never divulge they have a man right away, they want to feel you out just in case you might be Mr Big.
POF is the big online dating site, good luck with that because there are some delusional women who over value themselves.
Now if you are visiting and staying in a cool spot close to the action, then you are in a different category altogether. Girls here want to seem friendly and cool to visitors.

Post: #238

(02-12-2014 02:19 PM)RougeNoir Wrote:  I responded to the emboldened above. I am not saying you are incorrect in saying circle game is king. I am saying cold approaching cannot be too bad if this guy with game does it pretty well. Nevertheless, there's no way to gauge if he's able to follow up with them or bang them.

Fair. If you're normal, most girls won't respond rudely to your day approach. Toronto is an exceedingly polite city after all. I was going to make the point that you did though - we don't know if he bangs any of them. If not, I wouldn't say he does well. Phone numbers aren't the goal.

(02-12-2014 02:36 PM)Vicious Wrote:  Social Circle game doesn't explain it though because that's how every regular person gets laid.

Doesn't explain what?

Post: #239

(02-12-2014 11:39 AM)bodmon Wrote:  good thing deciding against Toronto, vicious. now as for predicting how you would have found it... I like to shy away from sweeping statements, because I'm not the most experienced guy out there and I like to hold out in the belief that anything's possible. but I've seen enough that I'd be prepared to say this. if you were somehow able to SNL a 7 or higher, early 20s thin white girl, from the standard nightgame areas, then I would be extremely, extremely surprised. tall aesthetic swede or not, that shit just doesn't happen here.

anyway, has anybody been to bloke & 4th on king st? two of my friends said that it's the busy spot on tuesday nights. I decided to check it out last night. $10 cover, $9 drinks, to a completely empty venue at 11:30 that I learned is not supposed to fill up until 12:30. like roosh said, I don't understand how a city with 4 million people can be so bad.

Yeah been to Bloke a few times. It fills up around 12:30-1 in winter. Summer its better. Its ok, Tuesday nights is dead in Toronto so its the best option.

Post: #240

(02-12-2014 11:44 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Seriously guys, I simply cannot believe that hot girls in Toronto don't have sex. There must be something that's being overlooked.

They are.

Tight game + logistics + Being an approach machine= Solid Plan for Toronto that will get you results(maybe not as much as NYC or other cities, but still decent).

Post: #241

checked out brassaii last night, the happening spot on wednesday.

epic cockfest. 4:1 ratio. rammed out with bay street suits. oh lawd.

Post: #242

Bodmon - how many girls did you approach?

Pm if you like!

Post: #243

3 and then bounced at 12:30

Post: #244

(02-13-2014 02:49 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Bodmon - how many girls did you approach?

Pm if you like!

Speaking of ANY Location... NOT just Toronto....

Personally, I do NOT generally approach chiquitas when odds are so lopsided (such as a 4:1 sausage fest), unless I have some special angle. For example, sometimes on the salsa dance scene the odds are real bad; however, since I dance salsa pretty well, I can frequently have an edge and build momentum, even when the odds are real bad....

On the other hand, if it is just some random club, I generally do NOT approach and I exit... Generally, I would rather save my energies.. ;.. than to deal with bitch shields that are most inevitable when the scene is lopsided (unless the guy has some special angel that he knows gives him perceived DHV and he stands out in some kind of way).

Post: #245

(02-13-2014 12:42 PM)bodmon Wrote:  checked out brassaii last night, the happening spot on wednesday.

epic cockfest. 4:1 ratio. rammed out with bay street suits. oh lawd.

What the hell is going on in the anglosphere? Is it penis land or what the heck?

Post: #246

(02-13-2014 12:42 PM)bodmon Wrote:  checked out brassaii last night, the happening spot on wednesday.

epic cockfest. 4:1 ratio. rammed out with bay street suits. oh lawd.

Yup, this sums up nightlife in Toronto. Every few months Ill head out to a club, forgetting how bad things are. Then I'm reminded why it's such a waste.

Post: #247

Welcome to Tdot . I urge all who set foot here to leave any bar/club that does not have at least a 50/50 ratio. It is a real shame that brassai and two cats are full of sausage and precious few hotties

Post: #248

I don't go out in the core of Toronto, so the ratios aren't as bad here in the suburb/second tier city.

But what I can say is, despite there being many more guys than girls in most cases, it doesn't really matter that much.

I'd rather have a 2:1 ratio to work against where guys are incompetent than a 1:1 ratio where I have many guys with status/game to compete with.

Post: #249

Toronto will always have bad ratios in the clubs/bars.

I was at Maison on saturday, ratio's weren't favourable but the talent was decent. You need thick skin to club and date in this city.

Post: #250

The women in Toronto are awful. Meeting hot girls is not rocket science. If you have to have perfect game to get a chick in any place then you might as well go to another place. Because there is no such thing as perfect game. And a woman has to put her efforts in to. The only hope for guys in Toronto is to meet women that just moved to the city, or that are from other place in Canada or other parts of the world and just happen to live in Toronto now. I've hooked up with girls from Vancouver, and Calgary that moved here to Toronto. And those experiences were amazing. You can tell that in those places meeting women is not hard. And these women were hot and one of the girls I met even paid for my meal the first time we went out. I randomly met these girls online, so it just so happened they just had moved to Toronto from their home cities.

Over the past year and a half or so I met 2 blonde hotties from Vancouver and 3 girls from Calgary. I banged all 5 girls no problem. And the girls actually showed me as much interest as I showed in them. Fellas if you have to do all the work like Toronto girls want you to do, it's not worth it. These Toronto bitches sit back and want you to do it all, and when you do get to bang them it's not like it's some great experience. They act the same in bed as they do on the street. And approaching a Toronto girl on the street is pointless. You will get no where, and even if you get a number it won't go anywhere.

My advice: Leave Toronto go to other places in Canada or just leave Canada all together. Toronto is the worst place to try and meet a girl, it just is. Guys spend more time in Toronto trying to figure out what's wrong with these dumb chicks, when guys should be having fun, meeting women and enjoying life. As I said, it's not that hard to meet hot girls. These women in Toronto make it seem like it is, but you step outside of Toronto and go other places you'll easily see that you as a man will always have the upper hand in meeting women.

Leave Toronto!!!!