Post: #201

Seriously looking forward to your trip to Toronto.

I think you'll do pretty well.

Post: #202

Vicious,
As other TO residents and experts have mentioned, Toronto is best avoided. Seriously, there is nothing here other than feminists, hipsters, fags and fatties all having a sense of entitlement that would make the American girls look like 1950 provincial girls in 3rd tier Russia. If you must visit in the summer, either head to Montreal as pointed out by HH as there are loads of festivals in the summer or go to Calgary for the Stampede. Another good option would be the east coast, in the Atlantic region. I hear Halifax is a pussy paradise. Scotian can chip in on his home turf.

Again do not waste your time in this shit hole called Boretown Aka Toronto!!!

Post: #203

Yeah. I've been to both TO and MTL. One summer, I did each city back to back and it was night and day. That's not saying I didn't have a good time in TO. I actually had a lot going on while I was out there. I hooked up with a cool Brazilian chick, went to house party with an amazing dinner and people from all over the world, checked out a fun daytime party on the lake where Flavor Flav showed up and everyone was getting shitfaced. I had heard then while in TO, even from girls, that the people in Montreal were better looking and that it's one of their favorite cities in the world blah blah. It was hard to imagine it since it keeps a relatively low profile on the world stage. Then when I finally made it out there, I was blown away. I even went a few more times that year, in one case reconnecting with an old friend I had a squabble with to put our differences aside and wing together in Montreal.

It was so inspiring a city that I felt encouraged to drop a data sheet about it at the end of that year, which is my best data sheet to date.

Post: #204

I think Vicious is trying to see if Toronto really lives up to the hype in terms of difficulty.
I guess its more of a challenge.

I want to see what his experience is. My feeling is that Toronto isn't too bad if you have tight game and your lifestyle/logistics are solid.

Post: #205

(02-05-2014 11:05 PM)torontokid Wrote:  I think Vicious is trying to see if Toronto really lives up to the hype in terms of difficulty.
I guess its more of a challenge.

I want to see what his experience is. My feeling is that Toronto isn't too bad if you have tight game and your lifestyle/logistics are solid.

If Vicious could add another week to his trip, then doing both would be possible. They're like, what, six hours away from each other?

Post: #206

(02-05-2014 11:09 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(02-05-2014 11:05 PM)torontokid Wrote:  I think Vicious is trying to see if Toronto really lives up to the hype in terms of difficulty.
I guess its more of a challenge.

I want to see what his experience is. My feeling is that Toronto isn't too bad if you have tight game and your lifestyle/logistics are solid.

If Vicious could add another week to his trip, then doing both would be possible. They're like, what, six hours away from each other?

I think that's the best idea.

A week in TO and a week in Montreal.

I like Montreal more, goes without saying.

Post: #207

Hit up Toronto to see what the buzz is about. I think it would be cool for you to craft your own opinion on the city after taking it in.

And besides the occasional mobs of ugly and overweight girls, there are definitely dimes around in the city.

Post: #208

(02-05-2014 09:47 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Vicious,
As other TO residents and experts have mentioned, Toronto is best avoided. Seriously, there is nothing here other than feminists, hipsters, fags and fatties all having a sense of entitlement that would make the American girls look like 1950 provincial girls in 3rd tier Russia. If you must visit in the summer, either head to Montreal as pointed out by HH as there are loads of festivals in the summer or go to Calgary for the Stampede. Another good option would be the east coast, in the Atlantic region. I hear Halifax is a pussy paradise. Scotian can chip in on his home turf.

Again do not waste your time in this shit hole called Boretown Aka Toronto!!!

I second that this place is to be avoided AT ALL COST!! Toronto can bring your soul down no matter how much you know about Red Pill knowledge.

Everyday you need to check your mind to no go back in Beta Land! Women simply DO NOT love men at all over here and the institutionalization of feminism has made it big too big here. The worst thing about Toronto is that in itself it's a great city with lost of activity to do, and that's the reason that we hate it so much!

If you brought Montreal attitude to Toronto, this city would be a must stop for men. As a men on this forum it's physiologically impossible to tolerate Toronto people as a whole!! I remember Tucker Max saying a quote about LA saying that somehow the Women over there are " inhumane". It's the same about Toronto, but the 8 or 9 over there is a 6 or 7 at best or a big fatty over here!!

I wish we could save TO as men since the top women over here are relatively hot, but that's never gonna happen!! Pretty much every TO RVF members that I've read post from that are unattached are planning their exits.

Post: #209

(02-06-2014 01:10 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

(02-05-2014 09:47 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Vicious,
As other TO residents and experts have mentioned, Toronto is best avoided. Seriously, there is nothing here other than feminists, hipsters, fags and fatties all having a sense of entitlement that would make the American girls look like 1950 provincial girls in 3rd tier Russia. If you must visit in the summer, either head to Montreal as pointed out by HH as there are loads of festivals in the summer or go to Calgary for the Stampede. Another good option would be the east coast, in the Atlantic region. I hear Halifax is a pussy paradise. Scotian can chip in on his home turf.

Again do not waste your time in this shit hole called Boretown Aka Toronto!!!

I second that this place is to be avoided AT ALL COST!! Toronto can bring your soul down no matter how much you know about Red Pill knowledge.

Everyday you need to check your mind to no go back in Beta Land! Women simply DO NOT love men at all over here and the institutionalization of feminism has made it big too big here. The worst thing about Toronto is that in itself it's a great city with lost of activity to do, and that's the reason that we hate it so much!

If you brought Montreal attitude to Toronto, this city would be a must stop for men. As a men on this forum it's physiologically impossible to tolerate Toronto people as a whole!! I remember Tucker Max saying a quote about LA saying that somehow the Women over there are " inhumane". It's the same about Toronto, but the 8 or 9 over there is a 6 or 7 at best or a big fatty over here!!

I wish we could save TO as men since the top women over here are relatively hot, but that's never gonna happen!! Pretty much every TO RVF members that I've read post from that are unattached are planning their exits.

Vicious is not the average forum member though in terms of income / and ability with woman based on his prior posts and data sheets. Hes also going to be on vacation and from a different place both of which are positives.

I think he will do well.

Post: #210

Man, Vicious got everyone on this thread hoping he's refunded his flight.

Post: #211

(02-06-2014 01:10 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  It's the same about Toronto, but the 8 or 9 over there is a 6 or 7 at best or a big fatty over here!!

I believe that is called a 69. A 6 that believes she is a 9.

Post: #212

I haven't gone out much in Toronto despite being from the GTA (suburbs). I'm moving back though this year unfortunately and look forward to tackling it. I can understand why Vicious wants a challenge.

I actually find it boring at times being in Cuba when at times it's like tossing lay-ups. Sometimes you want to take a 3-point shot.

If hes here one week I'm going to estimate that he gets 3 notches. 2 online and 1 from night game.

Post: #213

Post: #214

Damn you guys, I'm not getting any work done here I'm just weighing options on my trip.

For all the credit Montreal is given I have to say that looking at night life photos Toronto seem to have an edge in quality of the girls (likely in looks).

Reading the threads it also appears as if though there's pressure to appear more bohemian in Montreal with suited men being called out.

Post: #215

(02-06-2014 05:26 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Damn you guys, I'm not getting any work done here I'm just weighing options on my trip.

For all the credit Montreal is given I have to say that looking at night life photos Toronto seem to have an edge in quality of the girls (likely in looks).

Reading the threads it also appears as if though there's pressure to appear more bohemian in Montreal with suited men being called out.

Don't go by the photos, Vicious.

Look if you just want to come to Toronto to see what's up come stay for a couple of days but absolutely do Montreal over Toronto. Unless you don't care about money at all and can do both for the experience do it but Montreal quality is night and day when compared to Toronto. I was recently in Montreal and I was shocked at how many more good looking girls there were walking around as compared to Toronto.

Toronto has a few good spots and of course in a city of a few million you are going to see a few gems but Montreal was something else. I do find it funny how so many Torontonians are telling Vicious to go to another city . We must be the only people who do that.

Edit: I know you were talking about the nightlife. I actually went to a couple of clubs on Hencredible's Montreal datasheet (not that I planned it that way, I happened to see his datasheet after my trip) and those clubs were better than anything I have ever been to in Toronto in terms of talent.

Post: #216

I don't even know why anyone would even go to Toronto for girls. It is like going to winnipeg, Manitoba to get coconuts! It is counter intuitive as you nead to escape here to start with girls.

That is why I am taking off to third world countries to start at it because T-Dot is a hell-hole for anyone that is young lol

Post: #217

(02-05-2014 11:09 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  If Vicious could add another week to his trip, then doing both would be possible. They're like, what, six hours away from each other?

Five hours by car.

Post: #218

(02-06-2014 10:03 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(02-05-2014 11:09 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  If Vicious could add another week to his trip, then doing both would be possible. They're like, what, six hours away from each other?

Five hours by car.

Hes probably going to fly if anything and it should be less than an hour flight i'd guess.

Post: #219

Sorry Rudebwoy. Sorry Torontokid.

I made the switch.

Time to dig out some Pimsleur courses in French on Piratebay.

Post: #220

Good call, Vicious. Easy decision. You had me concerned for a second. Yeah, Google pics don't tell the story whatsoever.

The high end scene in MTL is very good and suit-friendly turf. As you know, GManifesto has written a data sheet about the place as well. One of his favorite cities. Stick to Old Port or Downtown hotel bars for the high end scene. PM me for any questions. Hell, I should be there at the same time!

Post: #221

(02-06-2014 12:25 PM)Vicious Wrote:  Sorry Rudebwoy. Sorry Torontokid.

I made the switch.

Time to dig out some Pimsleur courses in French on Piratebay.

Oh man I am sad, thought you were up for the challenge.

You won't come across fatties on King St and some clubs are pretty good in the summer.

Maybe I will link you in Mtl.

Post: #222

I should have chimed in earlier in favor of Montreal but glad you made the move. Montreal has a certain je ne sais quoi so to speak and it's much more of a party town - u will find stuff going on there every day of the week and everyone is way less uptight in Quebec than the rest of the country except maybe the western part. That's not to say Toronto isn't a great tourist town or place to find a job but for vacationing/gaming there is no contest I'd say.

It's not just girls - Montreal is just a better city with a more wholesome quality of life with great restaurants and clubs too. St. Laurent, Vieux Montreal, Le Plateau, downtown etc. there are so many things to do...food is awesome there and there's just a lot of energy.

The Canadian press and powers that be have been tauting Toronto like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread for decades now but it doesn't live up to the hype. I lived in Montreal in the late 90s and remember it well from then. Basically the PC Anglophone mainstreamers don't like Montreal or the French and have a bias against them (and have even tried to compare Toronto favorable to NYC for years). It goes both ways I know (the French Separatist thing is annoying too).

I will say that Toronto is a nice city and all but it's not anything like NYC or even Montreal and never will be so it sucks that the Canadian press try to compare apples and oranges, let alone make it 'the place to be in Canada' over Montreal. Vive le Quebec!!))

Just call everyone a "tabernac", eat plenty of poutine and enjoy the women.

Post: #223

There's all kinds of fatties in Montreal also...
Difference is, in general, women are probably more.... sexually liberated/feminist/european styled VS Toronto.
Plenty of hipster hotties (8's+) who could outdrink some of you here, and possibly roll one up right infront of you
You can be anywhere in the world, you'll notice Quebecers are usually fun/party people

More liberal, more outgoing ect...

That's why I don't bother suiting up and going to the fancy clubs/bars anymore,
Lot's of undergroundish-hipster bars with beautiful women. Where there's less douchebags and better music.
Advantage being, there's many soft socialist idiots (guys) within that scene...
The men here are very pussy/beta as fuck in general. Very few guys do day approaches ect
So when an alpha comes through in a crowd of beautiful leftist women, they actually recognize the game real quick.
MTL is matriarchy to the core, so yes the women are somewhat sluttier IMO.
But yeah, fathers think they can raise kids as well as women here.
Fact is if the men here had a bit more balls we would of been a country a long time ago.

Post: #224

(02-06-2014 01:27 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(02-06-2014 12:25 PM)Vicious Wrote:  Sorry Rudebwoy. Sorry Torontokid.

I made the switch.

Time to dig out some Pimsleur courses in French on Piratebay.

Oh man I am sad, thought you were up for the challenge.

You won't come across fatties on King St and some clubs are pretty good in the summer.

Maybe I will link you in Mtl.

Same here. I was going to chime in before the decision but it was already made. Toronto is no easy walk but the challenges here makes one a better player in the game. We like the path of least resistance but I can say even though I'm suck in Feminist Prison aka Toronto I know full well when I do venture out swooping girls is way fuking easier.

The challenge is still out there. Maybe McQueen will take it up as he has also showed intrigued in trying to crack Toronto.

It's true we don't advise people to come here but if somebody is eager for the challenge I can't help but support and help them in that choice.

Post: #225

I'm down for a MTL meetup in the summer. I remember there was one in the works last time but no one showed up apparently. Summer is perfect out there.