Post: #376

(06-17-2016 09:04 AM)Northern Wrote:  

(05-24-2016 02:54 AM)rungoodinc Wrote:  

Quote:This girl had spent around a year in Canada and the US and boy did it show.

The vast majority of girls who have studied abroad for a year or longer don't end up like this.

This is definitely a Tinder/foreign lover thing...which is why I would not recommend pursuing these girls if you are in Seoul for a more long-term stay.

What dating apps do they use in Korea? Has anyone tried?

tinder is a dead end, got a few convos and dates on badoo

Post: #377

Koreans use an app called 1km

Not sure it's so much a dating app as a general socializing app but probably has a similar effect

Not sure how it would work if you are foreign

I believe Sourcecode was on there, don't know if anything ever materialized

My recommendation would be to go outside

For foreign hunters, go to Tinder. Many are busted

Post: #378

Online is a wasteland for most in Korea but 1km, badoo, tinder, skout and hello talk are all possible to pull from. I've known some foreigners who did well on these apps but they filled a certain niche well and even then the quality wasn't too great. 1km is the Korean dating app, if you can't text in Korean then you got a snowball's chance in hell there. The rest of the apps have a lot of foreign girls and K-girl foreign lovers.

the girls here usually prefer to meet guys when they go out. Unlike the West where it is not normal for guys to approach aggressively these days (since everyone does online dating), most Korean girls are used to being cold approached and meeting guys this way. Had a convo with a chick about this topic the other day.

Post: #379

I have a new Korean gf. I fingered her over the weekend. Her kitty in shockingly small. I could not get my index finger or middle finger in and had to put my pinky in instead. She said she hasn't had sex in a year so I'm sure that combined with the nerves had something to do with it. I don't see how it's going to be physically possible to sex her up. I have been with 7 or 8 korean women so far, but none have been like this. My penis is only slightly above average and she acted like I pulled out an anaconda sized penis. It felt good but I also think I'm gonna have a hard time breaking her in. Any advice?

Post: #380

Any rec's on places to go in Hongdae?

Keep hearing about this place called Pandora, but can't find one outside of Itaewon. Any advice on how to find this place (or any good places) is highly appreciated. Pref is for more of the bar/lounge scene instead of clubs.

Post: #381

Anyone in Seoul now. Send me a PM if you want to meetup and head out. Ill be here until sunday

Post: #382

Few questions about the korean language, Is it a hard language to learn comparative to Mandarin or Japanese? Are there any benefits in learning it? I've read that it is easy to learn japanese after if you've learn korean, is that true?

Post: #383

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:...h_Speakers

Hardest languages = NE Asian (Chinese, Korean, Japanese) + Arabic

From personal experience, I would say it is a hard language, especially the grammar.

A Japanese girl told me that it's easy to learn Japanese after since the grammar is similar ("just the words are different")

I don't think there are any benefits unless you plan to live/work in Korea or hit on mainly Korean girls (not a global language like Chinese, English, Spanish, etc). Even for the latter, if you don't live in Korea and there are Korean girls in your country, they will probably speak your language unless they are tourists

Post: #384

First time to Seoul later this month for 5 days. Better to stay in Gangnam or Itaewon? Will be mostly for leisure, with some late afternoon informal business meetings.

Budget isn't a concern - if Gangnam will probably be at a high end hotel. If Itaewon, looks like an Airbnb. I probably have one late late night in me, but otherwise would prefer earlier nights at bars or dates.

If you're around, let's meet up!

Post: #385

(07-17-2016 03:38 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  First time to Seoul later this month for 5 days. Better to stay in Gangnam or Itaewon? Will be mostly for leisure, with some late afternoon informal business meetings.

Budget isn't a concern - if Gangnam will probably be at a high end hotel. If Itaewon, looks like an Airbnb. I probably have one late late night in me, but otherwise would prefer earlier nights at bars or dates.

If you're around, let's meet up!

If budget isn't a concern Gangnam is probably the better choice. The area is more upscale and girls are better looking. You would also be closer to bigger clubs like Octagon and Ellui.

When i lived in Seoul I usually went to Itaewon when I really wanted to get customer service in English (eg buying sim card for my phone, banking errands or just order food from waiters/waitresses who could speak English). In the rest of the city English levels are very poor.

Post: #386

Gangnam is definitely a better look if you planning on business meetings, even if informal.

As for Korean, I think it's by far easier than Chinese and Japanese in terms of getting to the conversational level. This is because the alphabet is only like 35 characters whereas the Japanese characters are at least 500 and Chinese is like 10,000. Plus, Korean doesn't have tones like Chinese.

Japanese and Korean are similar in some of the vocabulary but it's not like knowing one will help you that much with the other.

Korean grammar is quite complicated but as a foreigner, you don't really need to use proper grammar for conversational use.

The benefits of learning Korean are the same as any other language. You can connect more with Korean people (including the women), and obviously you'll benefit greatly if you want to do business in Korea or work at a Korean company.

Post: #387

Staying in Gangnam would make you look a lot cooler (including with the ladies) - Koreans are pretty status conscious and Gangnam is equated with $

I posted a pic of myself at the Park Hyatt in Gangnam (it's kind of a bit east though) on Instagram once and got mad likes and comments just to give you an idea

http://www.seoul.park.hyatt.com/en/hotel/home.html

It was kind of cool and I think they have bars and restaurants inside but I don't usually stay in nice hotels so can't comment on quality

Post: #388

Thanks for the tips guys. Yeah, I'll be staying at a hotel at a similar status to the Park Hyatt Gangnam.

My only concern is that since I'll be in there for five days, my most realistic lays are going to come from crossing the river to Itaewon. I'm going out on a limb in saying that if I go out to Gangnam solo, I'll be a fish out of water, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Will staying in Gangnam be a pain in the ass if it's most likely that I'll be on the other side of the river for dinner and drinks after?

Post: #389

Quote:Thanks for the tips guys. Yeah, I'll be staying at a hotel at a similar status to the Park Hyatt Gangnam.

My only concern is that since I'll be in there for five days, my most realistic lays are going to come from crossing the river to Itaewon. I'm going out on a limb in saying that if I go out to Gangnam solo, I'll be a fish out of water, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Will staying in Gangnam be a pain in the ass if it's most likely that I'll be on the other side of the river for dinner and drinks after?

It is hard to say what your chances are without knowing anything about you

Sounds like you got $ (good)

But I don't know other important things like looks - namely *height*, ethnicity, facial aesthetics, style, muscles
Level of "game"
Korean language skills

The answers to those will determine the answer. For the average Western person - dressed like a scrub or everyone else (generic collared shirt, pants), slightly overweight, no game, etc. I would definitely recommend Itaewon (not that it's easy but you'd have no chance in Gangnam). But I think a together guy can pull it off in Gangnam (or I guess anywhere), even if he is foreign

I think (without actually going back and breaking the numbers down) I have pulled most from Octagon in Gangnam. But I also like clubs more than bars and such and am playing a different game - Korean guy with good Korean skills

I would go to Octagon at least once... personally I feel girls get in a crazier/sluttier mindset when they're at crazy clubs like that vs. some shit Itaewon bar but that's just me. Itaewon might be better as a foreigner - like there might be some girls who will just hop on the D because you're foreign. Maybe rungoodinc can chime in

Also, is there a specific reason you want to do dinner/drinks in Itaewon?

Post: #390

(07-19-2016 07:33 AM)whiteknightrises Wrote:  

Quote:Thanks for the tips guys. Yeah, I'll be staying at a hotel at a similar status to the Park Hyatt Gangnam.

My only concern is that since I'll be in there for five days, my most realistic lays are going to come from crossing the river to Itaewon. I'm going out on a limb in saying that if I go out to Gangnam solo, I'll be a fish out of water, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Will staying in Gangnam be a pain in the ass if it's most likely that I'll be on the other side of the river for dinner and drinks after?

It is hard to say what your chances are without knowing anything about you

Sounds like you got $ (good)

But I don't know other important things like looks - namely *height*, ethnicity, facial aesthetics, style, muscles
Level of "game"
Korean language skills

The answers to those will determine the answer. For the average Western person - dressed like a scrub or everyone else (generic collared shirt, pants), slightly overweight, no game, etc. I would definitely recommend Itaewon (not that it's easy but you'd have no chance in Gangnam). But I think a together guy can pull it off in Gangnam (or I guess anywhere), even if he is foreign

I think (without actually going back and breaking the numbers down) I have pulled most from Octagon in Gangnam. But I also like clubs more than bars and such and am playing a different game - Korean guy with good Korean skills

I would go to Octagon at least once... personally I feel girls get in a crazier/sluttier mindset when they're at crazy clubs like that vs. some shit Itaewon bar but that's just me. Itaewon might be better as a foreigner - like there might be some girls who will just hop on the D because you're foreign. Maybe rungoodinc can chime in

Also, is there a specific reason you want to do dinner/drinks in Itaewon?

Thanks again for the info.

My take on clubs in Asia, or anywhere really, is that unless you've got a good crew and some connections and a table, your odds of shooting a blank are very high. I'll be solo this trip. Is Octagon very bottle service oriented or is there a large mingling area?

As for going north of the river, I really have no knowledge of Seoul and I'm simply going off of my conceptions of other cities. To me Gangnam sounds like a business and shopping district, where as neighborhoods north of the river are more gritty with lots of street food, interesting shops and presents a more walkable experience, hence my preference to spend a lot of time north of the river. Again, I could be totally wrong as I've never set foot in the city.

Post: #391

I talked about what you're talking about in this post (a night out in Gangnam/Octagon report):

/thread-1682-...pid1307443

From above post:

"I mentioned this before but IMO as of right now (2016), Octagon is the best (Gangnam) club for pickup. Especially if you aren't Korean. Don't be fooled by the free cover for some other clubs (I think Octagon doesn't allow foreigners on guest list - as of now (2016), but this might be different if you have a strong connect). The other clubs, e.g. Syndrome are much more "scene" and Korean (regular clubbers/club circles vs. girls in 2s and 3s like Octagon and general coldness towards foreigners)."

In sum, if there's any Gangnam club that you'd have a good chance at, it's Octagon. Even besides the pulling girls factor, I'd say it's the most fun out of the Gangnam clubs. The setup is just much better than the other places ("#5 club in the world")

When people say "Gangnam" that encompasses a bunch of different neighborhoods. But yea more of a business and shopping vibe, with nightclubs spread out - there isn't really a nightlife "strip" like in Itaewon or Hongdae. From a historical standpoint, Gangnam didn't exist until later - I wanna say development started ~60s-70s. If you want more "culture" there is definitely more of that north of the river

I recommend this site to get an idea of what you can see in different parts of Seoul:

http://english.visitkorea.or.kr/enu/index.kto

Post: #392

Quote:My take on clubs in Asia, or anywhere really, is that unless you've got a good crew and some connections and a table, your odds of shooting a blank are very high. I'll be solo this trip

This is a limiting belief. Asia/Korea isn't different than anywhere else. Sure, having local connects can allow you to go to more places and a better experience overall, but it makes very little difference when it comes to actually pulling.

Most of the time I go out, I'm with one or two wingmen and it's never an issue. I usually do worse when I'm in a bigger group since there are more variables at that point and it's easy to just chill and hang out instead of actually talking to chicks. I've pulled solo in Korea before and I know whiteknight also has. Don't get me wrong, it's no walk in the park, but you also don't need connections to pull chicks. It's summer time, girls are looking to get the D.

Also, Itaewon is close to Gangnam, it's just north of the river. Even if you are staying in Gangnam, it's only a 10 minute cab ride (with no traffic) from Itaewon to Seoul so pulling isn't really an issue.

It's also easier to meet your dates in Gangnam as opposed to Itaewon so overall, considering your situation I'd go with Gangnam.

Post: #393

So I went to Arena for the first time last night and my God...

I would have banged 90% of the girls in there. The quality was INSANE like on average 8 maybe 9/10. Possibly the highest concentration of 8+ girls I've ever seen in any venue in my life (anywhere). Also club was poppin even at 4-5 AM

I also might have been high on Phenibut/alcohol combo (might write a post on that soon) but yea

I had previously avoided it because I heard it's more of an afterhours place (those kinds of places tend to have a more scene vibe from my experience)/I don't have guestlist or anything there but the quality was even higher than in Octagon and Syndrome IMO

Random pics from their FB page:











Of course girls look better in dark lighting/with a few drinks in you

Have heard that it's anti-foreigner but can't confirm. Though there were even some fly looking foreigners in there (guys and girls - girls not necessarily my type, think French fashion model skinny, but yea). Seems very table-oriented and might not be good for pick up but I was honestly motivated by the amount of beauties in there. Jaw was dropped most of the time serious

My favorite rejection in recent memory - I approach a straight up 11 (probably a .0000001% chance) - tell her she's sexy (kind of risque for Korea) and without missing a beat she tells me "Fuck off." in Korean hahah. Haven't gotten rejected like that in a while - love the hot girls with attitude

Post: #394

I miss Korea all the time. Those of you up there, some of y'all don't know how good you have it! Not just girls, quality of life.

Busan is legit, girls in the 6 to 8 range are much more down-to-earth than the spoiled girls up in Seoul. Daejeon and Daegu are extremely convenient to get to as well, and are worth at least checking out for several days.

Remember gents: it's about emotions, not logic. She won't care if you are an unrealistic dating match if you are interesting/exciting and especially if you make her look good to her social circle. Korean girls are amongst the most superficial in the world!

Post: #395

That's my firs post in rooshv, I will present myself a bit,
-I am a half-korean in my early 20s, so an hapa with an athletic body, im 6foot tall
- I can converse decently in korean gets better with some alcohol

Alright so I was in Seoul for 2weeks and I manage to have three bang and I almost pull 2,3 girls per night.
Oh man I love Seoul and korean girls are so hot and feminine, I did gangnam hongdae and Iteawon, and I have to tell you gangnam was amazing I have a preference for highso korean girls, but yeah I went to Octagon, Arena and massclub.
I had my most tremendous nights in Arenaclub, Ive never been to a place that crazy and exciting, I agree with whiteknightrises, you just wanna bang everygirl there though lots of them have been on the surgery table, but girls in Arena especially because it's an afterclub they are really sexual and sensual if you are handsome you could easily hook up with 8+. But yeah for Arena you better have some connections, korean friends or a table, because it is nearly imposisble to enter if you are a foreigner, maybe if you are a model, I had some hard time to get in eventhough I am half korean I had to be smart to get in and also I think speaking korean helps definitely a lot to pull or hook up kgirls. But if you go Octagon as it is a big club you have lots of thai sibgapore or western girls too they are definitely a good target, but I was aiming korean girls.

Hongdae is also a good place if you are in you're early twenties I get to pull some 8+ but couldnt bang them as they would tell me "im not an easy girl bs"

And for Iteawon I didnt like the vibe but still I really liked Prost bar, it's an amazing bar to hunt beautiful girls into foreigners, thhat is were I got my first bang from, it's full of wannabe alpha korean guys and lots of pretty girls too, I suggest you to go there until 2am hunting girls, but clubbing in Iteawon I didnt like it.

I went to Busan for 3nights I had an airbnb in I park it was an incredible loft in Haeundae. I went to Abyss kudeta and grid. I have to tell you Kudeta is the best club in Haeundae I had the chance to pull a 9 she was incredible I got her kakao but I failed to bang her, I txted her the next day to meet her in a rooftop but she had already a yachtparty ahaha I felt poor, fuckin rich kgirl love them though, and Grid is really similar to Octagon in seoul but it's in the center of Busan, oh my god incredible girls there too ranging from 7to9+ I did have a SNL with an 8 she had some great fake boobies. I told her I had a loft in heaundae I think thag helped a lot haha , you have to show off your status with kgirls it definitely helps.

In conclusion the key to succes in korea is to have the best status Possible as you know already from the previous post, and Yeah if you can small talk or open in korean that's a gamechanger, and being an halfkorean I think it helped me a lot they would trust me more, but If you are a foreigner you still got some chance if you are handsome and dress in stylish way korean girls like. My friend who is canadian and decent looking also fit, he managed to kissed 3girls and bang one kgirl.

Post: #396

So I went to Suwon yesterday out of curiosity since it is closer to me (at least by taxi) than Seoul. Going to Seoul every weekend can be tiring (kind of like commuting to get my dick wet serious)

Didn't see any data on it on here so here's a summary of what I know from one night / a short field report (I banged - pic below):

Suwon is the capital of Gyeonggi Province and a decently large city ~1.2 million people. I had heard from coworkers that there is a going out area there called Ingye-dong that is a little "rough around the edges" but I didn't get that impression. Mainly just felt like I was in any other part of Korea. Didn't have anyone get in my face or anything - has happened in Gangnam, which is "nice around the edges" (lol) so I don't know where that impression comes from

On my way there on the cab I was kind of worried because Suwon looked really dead - until I got to the going out strip where there were people. It was less crowded than Itaewon or Hongdae on a weekend night for comparison (but still a decent amount of people to make for a good night out)

In terms of quality, the girls were about the same as Itaewon or Hongdae - like on average maybe a 6 with a few stunners here and there

Venues
- Since there wasn't too much info online, I just went up to a group of Koreans that looked like they were hunting and asked them what the deal was
- Loop - the club I went to. According to the guys, it's the only EDM type club in Ingye-dong. Not very big compared to a place like Octagon and definitely not as good a setup (a bit grungy, sound not as good, no crazy lighting, etc) but not terrible. If I had to compare to somewhere, I'd say Answer in Gangnam but perhaps a little shittier. Think there's a VIP area upstairs and the table area surrounds the club area on the main floor with the exception of one table in the middle. Bar is decently long and some corridors/choke points - decent areas for picking up (at least in accordance with how I like to game) but I'd say 70% or so of floor space is dedicated to dance floor
- Arirang - hip-hop club according to the guys
- 별이 빛나는 밤에 or 별밤 - "Byeol Bahm" (A Starry Night) - there are many of these around Korea - more Korean style hunting venue where you sit at a table with your friends, get drinks/food, maybe hit on some bitches. Not for me since I don't have friends (lol) and I'm more of a club guy than sit and drink and actually talk guy
- Probably other places that I wasn't told about but if you're here for a night or something, I'm sure the above 3 will do

Foreigners
- Wasn't expecting to see any foreigners but actually a few at Loop/walking around the area. Maybe saw ~4-5 white people (including 1 girl) and probably the same amount of SE Asians

Report:

So I get to Ingye-dong, get my wristband from Loop and as it's not that live yet, I kind of chill outside (~12-12:30?) Wasn't really feeling too excited (didn't get much sleep the night before and had taken a test that morning) and kind of just standing around people watching. A group of girls congregates near me, talking amongst themselves wondering whether Loop is worth it, etc. I think they're checking me out but I'm also full of it. Not up for a conversation with 5 girls by myself though

I go in the club (entrance 15k won - I went after 12) and finally get around to approaching a bit. One memorable set - I see a girl walking into the bathroom (I creep outside the bathroom a lot to catch girls by themselves) and she has a real nice hip:waist ratio and nice looking ass so I wait for her to come out. I grab her and we talk for a sec, I say she looks young (one of my go-to lines) like high school/too young to be in the club. She says you're full of shit haha (in informal speech) and puts her number in my phone and says Kakao me - guessing she was with friends/at a table. Guessing I'll also never hear from her again lol

Still not really feeling it - at this point I'm too jaded to "have fun sober" so I avail myself of my free drink coupon. Only thing I would drink is vodka orange - I say please no orange, she proceeds to pour me an entire glass of OJ with some vodka. Start getting into the groove a little (I am also on Phenibut so 1 drink = 2 or 3) but have to take a shit so I go across the street (club bathroom is nasty/doesn't lock)

I come back and it seems a bit more bumpin (I wanna say it's like ~1:30 at this point) but I may have just been feeling the Phenibut/alcohol. I want to get a little more turnt so I get some whiskey. Pretty dope - I asked for whiskey on the rocks and I think she was new to the job - instead of the 1-2 shots worth you usually get, she gave me a full glass of whiskey. At that point I started having much more fun and approaching more - was mirin a lot more/more motivated sexually speaking. Approach one of the girls from outside before - too sober and not down. Couple of sets worth mentioning: I approach a girl who's totally into me but getting ferociously dragged away by her friends (happens again later). I see a girl eye-fucking me hard so I follow her into the crowd. She says I'm thirsty - I'm thinking that means drink so I take her to the bar but she just wants water. I think she was just a little yucky but ultimately a shy girl. When I tried to start dancing with her she walked away with her friend

I approach the girl who I end up banging that night (probably approached ~10-12 girls total). She's at the bar - a solid 6, maybe 7 with the makeup. She seems pretty friendly, but her friend seems like a potential problem - semi mother-hen/uptight personality. Within a few min or so I take her a short distance away to a part of the dance floor which is conveniently not that crowded but surrounded in the front/back (so her friend probably can't see). Make out and start thinking about my next move. I say, let's go get some air. Thankfully, her friend is ok with the move - once we're out I think she was like where we going? I was thinking motel first but got a little nervous and went to get gum first at the convenience store next door. After that, I'm just talking about random bullshit and walking towards motels (there are a lot in the area and all pretty conveniently located and most seems to have lights on, which usually means there are rooms). She's like "nahhh don't pull that" when I try going into one. I could've gone for another girl but there wasn't really a good turnover rate of girls coming in and out of Loop so I just stuck with her and figured she needed some drank to loosen up

I take her to some Izakaya place that had a banner saying "we got private rooms in here!" (being able to read Korean!) We go in and order bar food which goes largely untouched (usually have to order something though) and a bottle of soju. Pretty cool since it's just me and her in this room with a table and some soju. I try to be careful though because of the Phenibut alcohol multiplier effect. I was at a good drunk level at that point - slightly buzzed to have some more fun but anything more and I think I woulda got a little sloppy/lost my edge. I keep trying to make out with her (this is usually ok) and touch her pussy (this not so ok). She gets a call from her friend who's just being that dumb friend and is trying to meet up/freaking out. I'm kind of worried things can go bad but anyway my girl is like do you have my bag, etc and they plan to meet up. Of course, the friend is dumb and probably drunk so it takes a bit of time. We're almost done with the soju bottle at this point and I succeed at fingering her from behind (one of my favorite moves) - like touching her ass then fingering her that way

We leave to meet the friend and so she can get her bag. I'm worried because this is make or break - she might ditch me or something cuz the friend. Before my girl goes to talk to her friend she says don't come with - smart/I know she's down as long as the friend doesn't pull some gay shit. I stand some distance away and pretend to be making a phone call/I don't know them but watching what's going on from the corner of my eye. Luckily it seems the friend got picked up as well and the girl starts walking back to me.

At this point I know I'm good and walk her back to a motel in front of 별밤 (Starry Night). While she washes up I go to get some contact lens solution from the convenience store nearby. I think some girls were checking me out - was it because they saw me pull some girl? I don't know. But they were hot haha fuck. There were also a lot of people at 별밤/outside it FWIW. Don't know how it would be as a foreigner/non-Korean person though vs. a generic club type venue like Loop (I didn't see the few foreign guys in Loop making any moves but just saying that the style of game at a Korean style bar is different/those places are Korean as fuck)

Anyway, got laid in Suwon lol. Might see the chick again since she lives alone in Seoul. Not the hottest/my ideal type but I guess free sexy time isn't bad (motels add up - this one was 60,000 KRW - the average usually, which is ~$55 USD at current exchange rate)

Pic:

Post: #397

get into downtown (Seomyeon) Busan on Tue. night.
checked two clubs next to Seomyeon-ro, one is called Blossom (as someone previously mentioned), don't remember the other one name.
Both the doorman did not let me in, and said this is for Korean only. (I'm Asian and speak English).
It's weired.

Post: #398

@whiteknightrises

Your post about Suwon sure brought back some memories!

I lived in Suwon from 2011 - 2013 and I had a fair few nights out in Ingyedong.

Club Loop had not long opened and my main memory of going there was been allowed to jump the queue with my Korean GF (I'm a white dude from the UK) seemingly for being a foreigner, the only time anything like that happened to me whilst living in Korea LOL!

I'm not sure if it is still there but there was a bar called 'Crazy duck', further down the same street as Club Loop, which had a reputation as a foreigner/expat bar, but unlike the other expat bars I knew wasn't owned by a foreigner. It was good for finding girls more open to foreigners or just DTF in general.

On the same street as Crazy Duck and Club Loop was a bar called 'Bulldogs' which also had a mixed crowd of Koreans and Foreigners (not just English teachers but international students of the nearby university)

If you are going to return to Suwon I would recommend the area close to Suwon Station which has the most nightlife concentrated in one area.

The main street was known to me and my friends as Soju Alley, not sure if everyone called it that or just us, but there are tons of bars, norebangs and restaurants (there ain't no Galbi like Suwon Galbi!)

There was one big club on Soju Alley, I can't remember it's name but it's probably 4 x as big as Club Loop. It was mainly a Korean crowd and the girls in there weren't receptive to my openers in English.

If you were going to be in Suwon during the day time Suwon Fortress is worth a visit. Suwon remains the only walled city in Korea and the walk along these walls give you a good view over the city. This could be a good daygame spot too, I never tried, I wasn't even aware of the concept of day game when I lived there!

Apologies if my intel is a little dated but it has been a few years since I lived there but I would definitely give the area around Suwon Station a visit if you return to Suwon.

Post: #399

I'm white and never had trouble getting into Blowsome or Fix. Blowsome was a waste of time for me though, the chicks weren't ready for foreigners. Also bumped into a hot girl with big fake titties I was flirting and dancing with at Secret Society, but she didn't wanna know me in Blowsome..was at a Korean guy's table.

I'll write a bit of a datasheet up for Busan soon but I still haven't got a SNL from a Korean chick in a club there, whereas in Seoul I come home wirh a quality chick every night I go out. Saying that, my Korean has come a long way since I used to hang out in Busan.

If you are a foreigner in Busan, these are the places to go IMO:
Secret Society, Seomyeon
Thursday Party, Gwangan
Billie Jean, Haeundae
Thursday Party, Haeundae

I'll go into some more detail later

Post: #400

I'll be up in Seoul on Thurs the 6th of Oct. If anyone wants to check out Arena I'm gonna see what it's about. Probably kick off in Itaewon then head there at midnight.

I've found the ratio of girls to guys in Itaewon is pretty damn good on weeknights, I imagine Thurs in Arena might loaded.