Post: #476

How is Austin Texas for Black men? Considering moving there to start a business.

Post: #477

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Post: #478

(11-19-2014 03:21 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 06:41 AM)Old Fritz Wrote:  How is Austin Texas for Black men? Considering moving there to start a business.

Are you a G, blue collar, rough around the edges, up on all of the Southern Hip hop? Then you're relegated to the East Side...scratch that.. your hood has been gentrified and now you live way north in Pflugerville

A Greek Letter person, talented 10th, boule, old school black society - looking to date professional but attractive black women? You'll hate Austin

Are you a tech guy, Kamau Bell, slam poetry, listen to mos def/talib kweli, boho type black guy?....And you date white girls?....YOU'LL LOVE AUSTIN.

WIA

Can you elaborate a bit?

> I am looking to start a business.
> I like tech but do not look like a geek
> I like latina women best

Post: #479

This is your post from the Subway slap thread and it is very fitting in this thread and hit me right in the head. I am going to report on all of this of course.

(11-13-2014 09:09 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  I have a few musings on this:

Recall that big smile by the prettier wing-gal? How many black guys on RVF can recall ever getting into an argument with black females in a clique only to have one of them wink at you or come talk to you later on? Or you catch her by herself afterwards and she is putty in your hands? One of the reasons black guys tend to have stronger game by default is because it is hard to catch specific girls alone so you have to flirt-fight with their jealous bitch friends first.

You have to pass this massive shit test without escalating it into a full on brawl, in order to get the pussy from the interested one in that clique. It's like you have to have meat for the pitbull out in front. If he had de-escalated the situation with slick game skills, he could have gotten play from the other 2 girls, but obviously he wasn't interested enough.

Another one would be that women like this are common, especially black ones, in all major cities. The East Coast is not the only one. Moving to another location won't fix that issue. Changing levels to older women, just means you have to have verbal jabs back and forth with their lead sycophant. Older black women 26-40, hang out in groups as well. You have to pass the shit tests of all in that group first as well. The risk of a fight is a bit less, but still the arrogance and sense of entitlement is still there nevertheless. It basically becomes the same as with other race girls at that point.

It's immaturity like this with those 17-23 girls that makes it tough for guys in certain cities to isolate prey. I have lost count how many times, I have had to bail or abandon a daygame approach on a top notch young black girl due to a volatile clique. When you are often forced to chase older ones, your options tend to shrink causing frustration, because their shit tests are in alot of ways alot harder.

In fact, as a topic aside, Clique Penetration is difficult no matter what the race or city background. I never learned advanced divide and conquer strategies at that guy's age, but if I had that knowledge when I was 21 I wonder how much better it would have been.

This is what I was talking about before on this thread. How every black dude get into a problem with a girl that actually like them. Flirt fighting is a term I have to remember. Playing hard to get in the black girl version by faking anger and disgust in hope the guy in question continuing to purse. If girls are doing this to guys they find attractive, then imagine what they do to the complete opposite. It is also funny how you mention the group pack. That is my first thread (newbie of course)! I read the Red Queen book fours years ago that have a section about a species of birds where the females are larger than the males. When they find an alpha, a mob of female birds swoop and smother the poor fellow hoping he pick. And that part have always stuck with me. As time go on, it resemble the urban environment in my opinion.

The immaturity of 17 to 23 years old could relate to her upbringing. If their worn out mother is constantly saying "Never fall for sweet words, men ain' t shit, don' t trust any man, and don' t mess with a broke nigga, etc.,." Meanwhile the mom hunt, coddle, and berate a man who does come her way. When the man leave will cause her to put up a strong front, but the girl know she is depress as she her negative attitude is out and her slightly puff eyes? Teens are expressing their mom beliefs to men due to lessons they learned by the time they hit puberty. Add little or no father figure and her genetics is a gold standard (thick), I say before that. An anecdote will make me say sometimes 10. Now add us men approaching and the tough environment.

In the summer, I have to be cautious because my city is small with nothing to do. So there is a lot of young kids out walking around and even then I mess up three times. One girl when I approach just gave me a stink look. Instantly I thought she hang with gang members. Sure enough I was right when I seen her at McDonald's two days later. The other two were 15. Once I heard that I apologize, bless their day, and walk away. These two were positive. In fact, one of them was in business pants walking past the courthouse making me decide I should approach her. As I catch up, she was already smiling. Smile got bigger when I said hi and comment on the pants. She said " I have to you tell I'm 15 though,." The funny thing was she was looking me up and down hard and continue smiling when I apologize and walk away. All I had to do was knock my age down a couple of years and that would had been it. This is why a girl can become pregnant, turn lesbian short-term, unable to bond with any man, have her guard, and is wary of both genders. Or clam up and focus on her studies. Which is admirable, but her behaviors is still similar or amplify as stated by others in the thread. She is a carbon copy of er mother before she even have the right to vote!

Post: #480

(12-16-2014 11:42 AM)Jukes Wrote:  This is your post from the Subway slap thread and it is very fitting in this thread and hit me right in the head. I am going to report on all of this of course.

(11-13-2014 09:09 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  I have a few musings on this:

Recall that big smile by the prettier wing-gal? How many black guys on RVF can recall ever getting into an argument with black females in a clique only to have one of them wink at you or come talk to you later on? Or you catch her by herself afterwards and she is putty in your hands? One of the reasons black guys tend to have stronger game by default is because it is hard to catch specific girls alone so you have to flirt-fight with their jealous bitch friends first.

You have to pass this massive shit test without escalating it into a full on brawl, in order to get the pussy from the interested one in that clique. It's like you have to have meat for the pitbull out in front. If he had de-escalated the situation with slick game skills, he could have gotten play from the other 2 girls, but obviously he wasn't interested enough.

Another one would be that women like this are common, especially black ones, in all major cities. The East Coast is not the only one. Moving to another location won't fix that issue. Changing levels to older women, just means you have to have verbal jabs back and forth with their lead sycophant. Older black women 26-40, hang out in groups as well. You have to pass the shit tests of all in that group first as well. The risk of a fight is a bit less, but still the arrogance and sense of entitlement is still there nevertheless. It basically becomes the same as with other race girls at that point.

It's immaturity like this with those 17-23 girls that makes it tough for guys in certain cities to isolate prey. I have lost count how many times, I have had to bail or abandon a daygame approach on a top notch young black girl due to a volatile clique. When you are often forced to chase older ones, your options tend to shrink causing frustration, because their shit tests are in alot of ways alot harder.

In fact, as a topic aside, Clique Penetration is difficult no matter what the race or city background. I never learned advanced divide and conquer strategies at that guy's age, but if I had that knowledge when I was 21 I wonder how much better it would have been.

This is what I was talking about before on this thread. How every black dude get into a problem with a girl that actually like them. Flirt fighting is a term I have to remember. Playing hard to get in the black girl version by faking anger and disgust in hope the guy in question continuing to purse. If girls are doing this to guys they find attractive, then imagine what they do to the complete opposite. It is also funny how you mention the group pack. That is my first thread (newbie of course)! I read the Red Queen book fours years ago that have a section about a species of birds where the females are larger than the males. When they find an alpha, a mob of female birds swoop and smother the poor fellow hoping he pick. And that part have always stuck with me. As time go on, it resemble the urban environment in my opinion.

The immaturity of 17 to 23 years old could relate to her upbringing. If their worn out mother is constantly saying "Never fall for sweet words, men ain' t shit, don' t trust any man, and don' t mess with a broke nigga, etc.,." Meanwhile the mom hunt, coddle, and berate a man who does come her way. When the man leave will cause her to put up a strong front, but the girl know she is depress as she her negative attitude is out and her slightly puff eyes? Teens are expressing their mom beliefs to men due to lessons they learned by the time they hit puberty. Add little or no father figure and her genetics is a gold standard (thick), I say before that. An anecdote will make me say sometimes 10. Now add us men approaching and the tough environment.

In the summer, I have to be cautious because my city is small with nothing to do. So there is a lot of young kids out walking around and even then I mess up three times. One girl when I approach just gave me a stink look. Instantly I thought she hang with gang members. Sure enough I was right when I seen her at McDonald's two days later. The other two were 15. Once I heard that I apologize, bless their day, and walk away. These two were positive. In fact, one of them was in business pants walking past the courthouse making me decide I should approach her. As I catch up, she was already smiling. Smile got bigger when I said hi and comment on the pants. She said " I have to you tell I'm 15 though,." The funny thing was she was looking me up and down hard and continue smiling when I apologize and walk away. All I had to do was knock my age down a couple of years and that would had been it. This is why a girl can become pregnant, turn lesbian short-term, unable to bond with any man, have her guard, and is wary of both genders. Or clam up and focus on her studies. Which is admirable, but her behaviors is still similar or amplify as stated by others in the thread. She is a carbon copy of er mother before she even have the right to vote!

Good post. The only thing I don't fully understand is the part about how the last girl is a carbon copy of her mother. What exactly do you mean?

Post: #481

So what is the end game for decent black men and the majority of insufferable black women who are incredibly ignorant?

Some may say they don't care but this really affects society when a significant number of black children fall into thug life as a result of poor family backgrounds.

Post: #482

(12-18-2014 08:06 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  So what is the end game for decent black men and the majority of insufferable black women who are incredibly ignorant?

Some may say they don't care but this really affects society when a significant number of black children fall into thug life as a result of poor family backgrounds.

The end game for decent black men.

   

Post: #483

honestly, it really doesn't matter. they are women at the end of the day.

the only difference is.... think of a superhero or some amped up super car. now give it a special potion to make even more crazy and strong (in their insanity, of course).

Post: #484

To many Black American men overlook Canada. Canadian black women prefer Black American men as they are more in-line with the meme they have of BET and "acting black". Things such as the American accent are viewed as qualifiers to Canadian black women and they scorn Canadian brothers since we are not "Black enough". Many Canadian girls I know growing up if they kept things smart have gone down to the States and found American men to settle down with.

Just stay out of Toronto and you good.

Post: #485

(12-18-2014 01:23 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

(12-18-2014 08:06 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  So what is the end game for decent black men and the majority of insufferable black women who are incredibly ignorant?

Some may say they don't care but this really affects society when a significant number of black children fall into thug life as a result of poor family backgrounds.

The end game for decent black men.

SECONDED. Mine is on the way.

Post: #486

(12-18-2014 05:40 PM)kosko Wrote:  To many Black American men overlook Canada. Canadian black women prefer Black American men as they are more in-line with the meme they have of BET and "acting black". Things such as the American accent are viewed as qualifiers to Canadian black women and they scorn Canadian brothers since we are not "Black enough". Many Canadian girls I know growing up if they kept things smart have gone down to the States and found American men to settle down with.

Just stay out of Toronto and you good.

Young black girls in Windsor are a gold mind. Along with white girls who like black dudes

Post: #487

(12-18-2014 05:50 PM)Lighthammer Wrote:  

(12-18-2014 01:23 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

(12-18-2014 08:06 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  So what is the end game for decent black men and the majority of insufferable black women who are incredibly ignorant?

Some may say they don't care but this really affects society when a significant number of black children fall into thug life as a result of poor family backgrounds.

The end game for decent black men.

SECONDED. Mine is on the way.

THIRD. I already have mines.

The only issue is saving money to travel internationally. I would just go to Canada and Mexico for fun, but from what I'm reading on RVF, Canada isn't worth going to unless you're a stereotypical black hoodlum, and Spanish is essential to travel to Mexico. But if anyone wants to prove me wrong in the case of NON-STEREOTYPICAL black men, feel free to do so.

Post: #488

(12-20-2014 12:01 AM)SuS Wrote:  

(12-18-2014 05:50 PM)Lighthammer Wrote:  

(12-18-2014 01:23 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

(12-18-2014 08:06 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  So what is the end game for decent black men and the majority of insufferable black women who are incredibly ignorant?

Some may say they don't care but this really affects society when a significant number of black children fall into thug life as a result of poor family backgrounds.

The end game for decent black men.

SECONDED. Mine is on the way.

THIRD. I already have mines.

The only issue is saving money to travel internationally. I would just go to Canada and Mexico for fun, but from what I'm reading on RVF, Canada isn't worth going to unless you're a stereotypical black hoodlum, and Spanish is essential to travel to Mexico. But if anyone wants to prove me wrong in the case of NON-STEREOTYPICAL black men, feel free to do so.

Not sure your age and background but the simple answer is to make more money.

You don't need P. Diddy loot, any dude in the states that's single and no kids making $50,000+ yr can afford to travel twice a year internationally beyond Canada and Mexico.

Post: #489

(12-20-2014 12:01 AM)SuS Wrote:  

(12-18-2014 05:50 PM)Lighthammer Wrote:  

(12-18-2014 01:23 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

(12-18-2014 08:06 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  So what is the end game for decent black men and the majority of insufferable black women who are incredibly ignorant?

Some may say they don't care but this really affects society when a significant number of black children fall into thug life as a result of poor family backgrounds.

The end game for decent black men.

SECONDED. Mine is on the way.

THIRD. I already have mines.

The only issue is saving money to travel internationally. I would just go to Canada and Mexico for fun, but from what I'm reading on RVF, Canada isn't worth going to unless you're a stereotypical black hoodlum, and Spanish is essential to travel to Mexico. But if anyone wants to prove me wrong in the case of NON-STEREOTYPICAL black men, feel free to do so.

No it's not. I'll tell you brothers and non brothers alike an interesting story not just about Mexico but Europe as well when I traveled.
I've traveled to over 15 countries and observed black guys in almost all of them and one general theme I've become aware of is that non-stereotypical black men get the most attractive looking chicks. Take for example Mexico. Oh they love black men etc etc. (You're skin color will only get you so far) When I was down there before, I was with mi novia slim 8-9 We ran into a black dude in this club full of fresas. I'm thinking his girl was going to be on par with mine, but realized while talking to him he was a stereotypical black dude who perpetuated the negative stigma about black dudes abroad (I won't go into details why, but just know he was the ghetto/hood ignorant type)
His girl low and behold was a gordita who was at best a 3-4. This is a common theme I saw everywhere abroad. Black guys who dressed well(non urban wear), educated, could hold a conversation not pertaining to BET, Worldstar, etc always had solid chicks with them. Meanwhile the opposites who did not, always had chicks, but tended to be of lower quality. At the end of the day both types get chicks abroad, but one get's chicks from higher class, the other gets low quality black guy crazed women. Just my $0.02

Post: #490

(12-18-2014 08:06 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  So what is the end game for decent black men and the majority of insufferable black women who are incredibly ignorant?

Some may say they don't care but this really affects society when a significant number of black children fall into thug life as a result of poor family backgrounds.

I think the end game for "decent" black men is pretty bleak, in the short term anyways. I think there might be an article in this somewhere, but I find that unless you are a very high-SMV black man, you'll find yourself competing with white guys who have significantly lower SMV than yourself. Obviously, max out that score the best you can, and you won't have anything to worry about, but I've seen a lot more average black guys that are incels/with whales, and a lot of average white guys with decent to hot lizards.

Post: #491

(12-18-2014 07:49 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 11:42 AM)Jukes Wrote:  This is your post from the Subway slap thread and it is very fitting in this thread and hit me right in the head. I am going to report on all of this of course.

(11-13-2014 09:09 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  I have a few musings on this:

Recall that big smile by the prettier wing-gal? How many black guys on RVF can recall ever getting into an argument with black females in a clique only to have one of them wink at you or come talk to you later on? Or you catch her by herself afterwards and she is putty in your hands? One of the reasons black guys tend to have stronger game by default is because it is hard to catch specific girls alone so you have to flirt-fight with their jealous bitch friends first.

You have to pass this massive shit test without escalating it into a full on brawl, in order to get the pussy from the interested one in that clique. It's like you have to have meat for the pitbull out in front. If he had de-escalated the situation with slick game skills, he could have gotten play from the other 2 girls, but obviously he wasn't interested enough.

Another one would be that women like this are common, especially black ones, in all major cities. The East Coast is not the only one. Moving to another location won't fix that issue. Changing levels to older women, just means you have to have verbal jabs back and forth with their lead sycophant. Older black women 26-40, hang out in groups as well. You have to pass the shit tests of all in that group first as well. The risk of a fight is a bit less, but still the arrogance and sense of entitlement is still there nevertheless. It basically becomes the same as with other race girls at that point.

It's immaturity like this with those 17-23 girls that makes it tough for guys in certain cities to isolate prey. I have lost count how many times, I have had to bail or abandon a daygame approach on a top notch young black girl due to a volatile clique. When you are often forced to chase older ones, your options tend to shrink causing frustration, because their shit tests are in alot of ways alot harder.

In fact, as a topic aside, Clique Penetration is difficult no matter what the race or city background. I never learned advanced divide and conquer strategies at that guy's age, but if I had that knowledge when I was 21 I wonder how much better it would have been.

This is what I was talking about before on this thread. How every black dude get into a problem with a girl that actually like them. Flirt fighting is a term I have to remember. Playing hard to get in the black girl version by faking anger and disgust in hope the guy in question continuing to purse. If girls are doing this to guys they find attractive, then imagine what they do to the complete opposite. It is also funny how you mention the group pack. That is my first thread (newbie of course)! I read the Red Queen book fours years ago that have a section about a species of birds where the females are larger than the males. When they find an alpha, a mob of female birds swoop and smother the poor fellow hoping he pick. And that part have always stuck with me. As time go on, it resemble the urban environment in my opinion.

The immaturity of 17 to 23 years old could relate to her upbringing. If their worn out mother is constantly saying "Never fall for sweet words, men ain' t shit, don' t trust any man, and don' t mess with a broke nigga, etc.,." Meanwhile the mom hunt, coddle, and berate a man who does come her way. When the man leave will cause her to put up a strong front, but the girl know she is depress as she her negative attitude is out and her slightly puff eyes? Teens are expressing their mom beliefs to men due to lessons they learned by the time they hit puberty. Add little or no father figure and her genetics is a gold standard (thick), I say before that. An anecdote will make me say sometimes 10. Now add us men approaching and the tough environment.

In the summer, I have to be cautious because my city is small with nothing to do. So there is a lot of young kids out walking around and even then I mess up three times. One girl when I approach just gave me a stink look. Instantly I thought she hang with gang members. Sure enough I was right when I seen her at McDonald's two days later. The other two were 15. Once I heard that I apologize, bless their day, and walk away. These two were positive. In fact, one of them was in business pants walking past the courthouse making me decide I should approach her. As I catch up, she was already smiling. Smile got bigger when I said hi and comment on the pants. She said " I have to you tell I'm 15 though,." The funny thing was she was looking me up and down hard and continue smiling when I apologize and walk away. All I had to do was knock my age down a couple of years and that would had been it. This is why a girl can become pregnant, turn lesbian short-term, unable to bond with any man, have her guard, and is wary of both genders. Or clam up and focus on her studies. Which is admirable, but her behaviors is still similar or amplify as stated by others in the thread. She is a carbon copy of er mother before she even have the right to vote!

Good post. The only thing I don't fully understand is the part about how the last girl is a carbon copy of her mother. What exactly do you mean?

Sorry. I was a little lazy. Writing about the young girls was to go with my post stating young girls are already aware of men at extremely young age (parents and environment) The first girl I mention I would bet she have a ratchet mother. Now if two girls have a couple of bad experiences with their significant others, they could be just as harden as the first girl.

Post: #492

(12-22-2014 04:47 AM)dads Wrote:  

(12-18-2014 08:06 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  So what is the end game for decent black men and the majority of insufferable black women who are incredibly ignorant?

Some may say they don't care but this really affects society when a significant number of black children fall into thug life as a result of poor family backgrounds.

I think the end game for "decent" black men is pretty bleak, in the short term anyways. I think there might be an article in this somewhere, but I find that unless you are a very high-SMV black man, you'll find yourself competing with white guys who have significantly lower SMV than yourself. Obviously, max out that score the best you can, and you won't have anything to worry about, but I've seen a lot more average black guys that are incels/with whales, and a lot of average white guys with decent to hot lizards.

This is reality, and it's on a global scale too. Being White is like +2-10 with non-White women, whereas being Black is -2-10 with non-Black women. Many Black men are just giving up these days, and given the choices of fatties, fuglies, and faggots, I cannot blame them. Unlike White men, we are not guaranteed a p00sey paradise once we fall off of a plane overseas, and in many cases statistics at least show that we have it worse. Get what you can, as long as it doesn't fall into the three F's, and enjoy it while it lasts because things are going to progressively get worse in terms of life for the Black man.

(11-12-2014 04:07 PM)Clemmo Wrote:  It depends on what part of the US you are in. It's mad easy for brothers to get play on the West Coast. I've gotten notches from Los Angeles up to Seattle. Seattle is like a paradise for black men who want to date interracially. Never had problems getting any over there.

Maybe things are good for you, but in my experience as a Black man from SoCal, I say otherwise, and most Brothers in my circle also say otherwise. Most women that hit on me are either foreign or from some other state. California girls just about never give me play.

Post: #493

(12-23-2014 02:44 AM)TheGrandAdmiral Wrote:  This is reality, and it's on a global scale too. Being White is like +2-10 with non-White women, whereas being Black is -2-10 with non-Black women. Many Black men are just giving up these days, and given the choices of fatties, fuglies, and faggots, I cannot blame them. Unlike White men, we are not guaranteed a p00sey paradise once we fall off of a plane overseas, and in many cases statistics at least show that we have it worse. Get what you can, as long as it doesn't fall into the three F's, and enjoy it while it lasts because things are going to progressively get worse in terms of life for the Black man.

All the reason why black men need to be a cut above in order to get pussy. Average doesn't cut it when you're black. I knew an old friend of mine from college who slayed model-like pussy who was African American and probably no more than 5'9-5'10, but he is a bartender and a musician. I learned from him how to raise your SMV and now I'm trying to learn music and get a bartending gig.

As for things getting progressively worse for black men, it depends. Not trying to make this a political discussion, but I have noticed a jump in black men/non-black female relationships since Obama became President. Whether you like the man or not, he's given us status that wasn't there when GWB was running things. During my college days in the DMV during the 2000s, unless you were a basketball or a football player, black men were incel like priests and monks on my campus. Nowadays, even here in DC, I am seeing things slowly changing.

(12-23-2014 02:44 AM)TheGrandAdmiral Wrote:  Maybe things are good for you, but in my experience as a Black man from SoCal, I say otherwise, and most Brothers in my circle also say otherwise. Most women that hit on me are either foreign or from some other state. California girls just about never give me play.

Check out Seattle, that problem will be solved pretty quick. I pretty much dated whenever I wanted to when I lived there, and that was before my game was developed. With the large Mexican population its no surprise SoCal is bad for black guys. West Coast Latinas are like East Coast Asians, a bunch of white cock worshippers who would boil themselves in hot oil before touching a black man.

Post: #494

(12-23-2014 02:44 AM)TheGrandAdmiral Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 04:47 AM)dads Wrote:  

(12-18-2014 08:06 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  So what is the end game for decent black men and the majority of insufferable black women who are incredibly ignorant?

Some may say they don't care but this really affects society when a significant number of black children fall into thug life as a result of poor family backgrounds.

I think the end game for "decent" black men is pretty bleak, in the short term anyways. I think there might be an article in this somewhere, but I find that unless you are a very high-SMV black man, you'll find yourself competing with white guys who have significantly lower SMV than yourself. Obviously, max out that score the best you can, and you won't have anything to worry about, but I've seen a lot more average black guys that are incels/with whales, and a lot of average white guys with decent to hot lizards.

This is reality, and it's on a global scale too. Being White is like +2-10 with non-White women, whereas being Black is -2-10 with non-Black women. Many Black men are just giving up these days, and given the choices of fatties, fuglies, and faggots, I cannot blame them. Unlike White men, we are not guaranteed a p00sey paradise once we fall off of a plane overseas, and in many cases statistics at least show that we have it worse. Get what you can, as long as it doesn't fall into the three F's, and enjoy it while it lasts because things are going to progressively get worse in terms of life for the Black man.

(11-12-2014 04:07 PM)Clemmo Wrote:  It depends on what part of the US you are in. It's mad easy for brothers to get play on the West Coast. I've gotten notches from Los Angeles up to Seattle. Seattle is like a paradise for black men who want to date interracially. Never had problems getting any over there.

Maybe things are good for you, but in my experience as a Black man from SoCal, I say otherwise, and most Brothers in my circle also say otherwise. Most women that hit on me are either foreign or from some other state. California girls just about never give me play.

This is not a reality on a global scale.
As a black man in America your value is low, the society is racist and black man are viewed as just athlete's, musicians or criminals.

I know many black guys in Europe, who quite frankly don't have two pennies to rub together. They do more than alright with non-black women and yes some of them are dealing with very nice looking ladies. What these guys have in common, is the "belief" that getting women is a numbers game and they are NOT inferior to anyone.

I have lived in Europe myself, dating there is almost night and day in comparison to Canada/America. A lot of it has to do with economics, the expectations from European girls are a lot less. Men in Europe for the most part don't cater to women, not at least on the large scale men in Canada do.
Even dating girls half my age is not a problem that side, the girls simply don't question it. They see a decent looking guy, in shape, dresses nice, speaks well and they accept me based on that.
In Canada I may get attention, but automatically the girls will expect me to jump through hoops to show my interest. It is almost comical when I simply refuse to play the game and their reaction when they bump into me again.

Even famous black men back in the day, always made their way to Europe. Paris was the usual destination, sure they were viewed as entertainers but at least they got love. Even my man Jack Johnson lived in Budapest for a year at the turn of the century (1900).

As for our competition, I don't think they have it easier. I know more than enough white dudes and they simply play the beta game. They rely heavily on money, circles and online dating to get girlfriends.
I maintain that women are smarter, they know their targets. They know which men they can control.

Post: #495

(12-23-2014 07:55 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  All the reason why black men need to be a cut above in order to get pussy. Average doesn't cut it when you're black. I knew an old friend of mine from college who slayed model-like pussy who was African American and probably no more than 5'9-5'10, but he is a bartender and a musician. I learned from him how to raise your SMV and now I'm trying to learn music and get a bartending gig.

True. Oftentimes it might still not be enough, and when Whites and others do the same, you're going to get blown away and end up right back at square one spinning your wheels and getting nowhere.

(12-23-2014 07:55 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  As for things getting progressively worse for black men, it depends. Not trying to make this a political discussion, but I have noticed a jump in black men/non-black female relationships since Obama became President. Whether you like the man or not, he's given us status that wasn't there when GWB was running things. During my college days in the DMV during the 2000s, unless you were a basketball or a football player, black men were incel like priests and monks on my campus. Nowadays, even here in DC, I am seeing things slowly changing.

I have as well. usually with shit-tier non-Black women and Black men. I have noticed more anti-Black hatred coming from all sides of society and quality women not giving Black men the time of day. The only exception to this that I have seen is Black men doing a little better overseas (like China, where black men are "supposed to be incel") and with foreign women visiting America. This is based on my observations and experiences though.

(12-23-2014 07:55 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  Check out Seattle, that problem will be solved pretty quick. I pretty much dated whenever I wanted to when I lived there, and that was before my game was developed. With the large Mexican population its no surprise SoCal is bad for black guys. West Coast Latinas are like East Coast Asians, a bunch of white cock worshippers who would boil themselves in hot oil before touching a black man.

I only have yellow Fever personally, but that option might work well for other Black men that are open to other options. Just say no to the landwhales, please. West Coasts Asians are no better towards Black men unless you are talking about shit-tier SE Asians, and the occasional fat Korean Christian.

Post: #496

(12-23-2014 11:29 AM)TheGrandAdmiral Wrote:  True. Oftentimes it might still not be enough, and when Whites and others do the same, you're going to get blown away and end up right back at square one spinning your wheels and getting nowhere.

Dude, I think you are giving up way too easily. As you will learn the hard way in Game, nobody is going to feel sorry for you, men and women alike. If you want a quality woman, they are to be had, you are just going to have to work a lot harder than the others. Its not an easy process but so is everything else in life. I live near DC, one of the few places on this forum that almost everybody hates, and I have seen several black male/white female couples in a place that is supposedly so racist. The black dude who is a musician i was referencing earlier has dated a few hot Asian girls. And there is hidden benefit in that. You're game will be much sharper and it will work and come in handy when you really need it.

Ask yourself the following:

Do I have a particular skill or job that a woman will find attractive? (Music, bartending, a foreign language, bouncer, etc) Being a desk jockey who watches sports and plays video games all day gets old real fast

Am I fit, attractive, dress well, etc?

Has my game improved? There are multiple resources out there, I've found Roosh and David DeAngelo the most credible.

Do I have a fun social circle? Women like men who are always into something and has cool friends. I've gotten the most attention from women while out with friends. Make sure you have women in this circle too to add to your value.

Work on the following above THEN decide where you stand. You even have credible black guys on this forum you can learn from that can help you. After all, they're in the same shoes.

Post: #497

^ He's gone so no need to worry about that fool.

For the record, I would not give up on black women EVER!

Post: #498

Mainly because of Rap, hip-hop culture saying you're uncool if you don't have a rotation of bitches from different ethnicities, and that you need to "diversify" your chose in women and go for more exotic ones says it all. Strangely, other races are not told to do it.
And rap and hip-hop culture significantly influences African American culture, and other Black cultures worldwide.

Post: #499

^ Oh great and another one joins the fray.

Black (American) culture influences a lot of cultures worldwide.

Post: #500

(12-23-2014 07:55 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  As for things getting progressively worse for black men, it depends. Not trying to make this a political discussion, but I have noticed a jump in black men/non-black female relationships since Obama became President. Whether you like the man or not, he's given us status that wasn't there when GWB was running things. During my college days in the DMV during the 2000s, unless you were a basketball or a football player, black men were incel like priests and monks on my campus. Nowadays, even here in DC, I am seeing things slowly changing.

I'll admit I'm seeing the changes here. But the Popped-Collar Preppy Punks of Douchepont Circle, Georgetown, Bethesda, and Arlington are trying to hold onto the status quo as much as possible. The real change, and IMO, the only havens or racial integration, have been outside the Beltway. But most black men who are benefiting are either those already married or are under 18.

But seeing how shit is going down with the Garner and Brown reactions, the MSM and Obama seem to have more of an agenda to completely take any SMV black men have left. Race relations are as shitty as ever, and given that DC is already a shithole when it comes to race relations, I see it getting worse.

Quote:Check out Seattle, that problem will be solved pretty quick. I pretty much dated whenever I wanted to when I lived there, and that was before my game was developed. With the large Mexican population its no surprise SoCal is bad for black guys. West Coast Latinas are like East Coast Asians, a bunch of white cock worshippers who would boil themselves in hot oil before touching a black man.

I feel you on Seattle, but like everywhere else outside of the DC Area, this isn't the 1990s economy where they're just hiring anyone with a bachelors degree in anything, much less relocating them thousands of miles away.

As for the white-cock worshiping Asian cunts in the East Coast, I can attest second to that. I'd rather deal with with white-cock worshiping Latina cunts on the West Coast only due to how a lot of them are mostly in Los Angeles. From hearsay and experience, Latinas in Seattle, Vegas, especially in the Bay Area, and (ironically) San Diego are cool with black men. Unlike on the East Coast where from Boston to Washington, damn near all Asian females who aren't FOBs treat even their own men like shit, so forget about getting any play from them as a black man. But if it's any consolation, most of those Asian females are as cunty, deceptive, and conniving as the average American white women many MGTOWs, MRAs, and PUAs warn about.

I just thought of a theory. How about going to the South for Latina and Asian females? Let's go by the stereotype that whites down there hate anyone who isn't White. Given that theory, whites down there are arrogant and ignorant, Latinos and Asians would be more sympathetic and open to blacks if only by default. I can see this scenario playing out in a lot of the South, especially the Deep South. Anyone can confirm or correct me if I'm onto something.

Quote:I live near DC, one of the few places on this forum that almost everybody hates, and I have seen several black male/white female couples in a place that is supposedly so racist. The black dude who is a musician i was referencing earlier has dated a few hot Asian girls. And there is hidden benefit in that. You're game will be much sharper and it will work and come in handy when you really need it.

Once again, Outside the Beltway spots in suburban Montgomery County and Northern VA isn't Washington DC. And the fact that your friend is a musician, any dude can get laid by being a musician, even if he plays at <100 people venues. Not to sound like the troll, but I can speak for DC, and it has to be one of the shittiest places for men in general, and double for black men, and triple for non-ghetto black men. Not trying to knock on you or your friend, but most of us who do the 9-5 thing to maintain a decent income - especially considering how stressful this place is in general - aren't going to have enough energy to take on interesting pussy-magnet hobbies being a musician, bartender, or DJ.