Post: #26

(10-02-2012 02:52 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  If you are black and messaging non-girls, you have to have a lot of other things going to "make up for" the fact that you're black. Better be well-above average looking, make good money, have an airtight profile, with pics that show you have the most awesome lifestyle. Then you might do as well as an average-looking white guy. OKC's race study pretty much laid it all out.

Getting quality online is tough enough for any guy, if you're black it's even tougher. Whether the OP was trolling or not, I agree with his basic premise. Black dudes are probably better off meeting girls in person.

jammer Wrote:jammer Wrote: No offense, but most of the girls who say "black guys only" are trash so I avoid them. Even though I'm black, I realize that they are attracted to black men for all the wrong reasons (aggressive behavior, fit body, fake thug mentality, etc.). So I go more for women who are open to black men, but aren't exclusively dating black guys.

I Couldn't agree more. Besides, those type of girls are actually turned off by black guys who don't fit that mold.

The logical conclusion to these statements is that black guys make it hard for black guys to get women online.

Post: #27

RE: Black guys are at a definite dis-advantage online

(Today 01:15 PM)Mr.Wynn Wrote: Hey thats whats up, theIVth. i'll probably have to join okc from everybody writing about it on this forum. i know u probably don't wanna post ur entire message on here but what's the tone of it? Joking, aggresive? I try to add humor in my messages if they have something typed in their description that i can go off of but a lot of times thats not the case. I've gotten a good amount of bangs off other sites but pof was always a slump for me


(Today 03:28 PM) TheIVth: Im pretty direct and just let them know that I want to get to know them because they seem interesting. I subtly let them know that Im physically attracted to them and that I want to see what their personality is like. I basicly finish by letting them know that Im cool and laid back (letting them know im not crazy) and then tell them to hit me back. I just leave my real name as a PS to make myself seem more human. Thats it.

And Ive never hit girls on any website other than blackplanet.com. I have a homeboy that gets on blackpeoplemeet.com every once in a while but ive never been on there. Ive messed around on blackplanet ever since college and just got back on there as of last month after next messing with it for a couple of years.

(Today 04:07 PM) Mr. Wynn: Yeah i've started to send out the same type of message lately & hell yeah i feel u on black planet. I just started gettin back on there around 3 days ago & already got a hispanic broad from LA on my dick. She stays 4 hours away from me but she seems pretty cooperative so i ain't trippin. Unless ur flashin $ & talkin about trickin on ur profile u gotta hit the predominantly black sights to get responses/play in abundance.

Post: #28

Race, in general, is a major factor online--bigger, maybe, than in real life. That doesn't mean ethnic guys can't do damage, it just means there are additional angles that regular a white dude simply don't deal with. That OKC Blog article on race proved, beyond any reasonable doubt, something that ethnic guys have known for years: that white guys online do better--all other things being equal--with all groups.

Post: #29

Why was the OP banned?

Should have at least been given a warning. The fact that black guys (and minorities in general) tend to have a tougher time on-line than white guys is true.

Post: #30

(10-02-2012 04:24 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  Race, in general, is a major factor online--bigger, maybe, than in real life. That doesn't mean ethnic guys can't do damage, it just means there are additional angles that regular a white dude simply don't deal with. That OKC Blog article on race proved, beyond any reasonable doubt, something that ethnic guys have known for years: that white guys online do better--all other things being equal--with all groups.

Interesting thing from that is black men overall reply at a 47% rate to messages sent to them by females, but they reply to black females at 37% compared to 51% to white females and 55% to Asians/Middle easterns. It looks like even black guys hate black women online.

Post: #31

(10-02-2012 10:57 AM)jammer Wrote:  Based on my experiments, OKCupid has the much better quality of women, but POF is much better for black guys. This is based on a buff black guy who is completely shredded.

Hmm. I wonder why that is. Was it a drastic difference? Twice the response rate?

Post: #32

(10-02-2012 05:07 PM)jammer Wrote:  Interesting thing from that is black men overall reply at a 47% rate to messages sent to them by females, but they reply to black females at 37% compared to 51% to white females and 55% to Asians/Middle easterns. It looks like even black guys hate black women online.

But was quality controlled when comparing the black women? I know when I was doing online dating(last time was in mid 2000s), the black women that would hit me up were usually wack. Often overweight or with a kid or just ghetto-looking.

I guarantee you if it was this black woman sending out messages to brothas her reply rate would be 100%.

Post: #33

(10-02-2012 05:18 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 10:57 AM)jammer Wrote:  Based on my experiments, OKCupid has the much better quality of women, but POF is much better for black guys. This is based on a buff black guy who is completely shredded.

Hmm. I wonder why that is. Was it a drastic difference? Twice the response rate?

I did this based on messages received from females. The buff black guy on OKCupid got 12 messages in the first 2 months and 0 so far in the last few weeks. On POF before his profile was deleted, tons of white girls were hitting him up. Granted they were the chubby kind of white girls, but the chubby white girls on POF seem to go crazy for black guys. My theory is that POF has more trash and unfortunately trashier white girls are more attracted to black guys than the classier ones (OKCupid). For the most part, I haven't seen many trashy girls on OKCupid. Most of them are educated and somewhat intelligent while POF has the type of girls you cringe at when you see their profile (tHiS KInD oF TyPIng, single mothers, HS dropouts, etc.).

Post: #34

(10-02-2012 04:55 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  Why was the OP banned?

Should have at least been given a warning. The fact that black guys (and minorities in general) tend to have a tougher time on-line than white guys is true.

I have no opinion on whether dude should have been banned, but this is a pretty classic example of a troll post.

It's true, but completely inane. I doesn't add much value, but pretends to offer great wisdom.

Post: #35

(10-02-2012 05:59 PM)j r Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 04:55 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  Why was the OP banned?

Should have at least been given a warning. The fact that black guys (and minorities in general) tend to have a tougher time on-line than white guys is true.

I have no opinion on whether dude should have been banned, but this is a pretty classic example of a troll post.

It's true, but completely inane. I doesn't add much value, but pretends to offer great wisdom.

First post and he comes with this nonsense, yes he is a troll.

The sad part is that people got sucked into the discussion.

Post: #36

I'm black and I don't have trouble online. I don't do OKC or POF, However I do hit up random broads on FB every once in a while.
If your black and doing the online thing you should consider what women typically are interested in you. For me in real life I basically have smashed more spanish chicks than any other type of chick.
It's usually spanish or light/Fair skinned girls that respond.

Post: #37

(10-02-2012 06:39 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 05:59 PM)j r Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 04:55 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  Why was the OP banned?

Should have at least been given a warning. The fact that black guys (and minorities in general) tend to have a tougher time on-line than white guys is true.

I have no opinion on whether dude should have been banned, but this is a pretty classic example of a troll post.

It's true, but completely inane. I doesn't add much value, but pretends to offer great wisdom.

First post and he comes with this nonsense, yes he is a troll.

The sad part is that people got sucked into the discussion.

People also got sucked into the discussion in the thread started by the Sub-Saharan Africa troll. Some posters were joking and others were completely serious.

Post: #38

This is so wrong, haha, I just started an online account, although the percentage of replies is not amazing. I still get a significant amount of replies. I'm still working on text game though. Thus so far it hasn't lead anywhere.

Post: #39

very interesting thread.

i'm black and have dated / hooked up with white girls during high school and college, etc. and not the stereotypical big-boned ones that people think are the only kind black dudes can get. lol. they were pretty attractive. this red-haired one in particular. i'm tempted to attach a pic of her on here, but i'm paranoid about doing that. she was like 5'6", 115. worked at a hair salon. i'd get nervous cuz guys would be looking at me like how the hell did this dude get that chick. lol.

but in my opinion, rest assured, she, and the other ones i've dated. if i would have met them on a dating website first, as opposed to in person, they would definitely not have given me the time of day. i'm not saying ALL black guys are at a disadvantage on dating sites, but i know for me in particular, the same type of girls that ignore me on there are the same types that i've had success with once they get the full effect of meeting me in person whether it's at school, the mall, etc. but i guess i'd rather keep it that way as opposed to having it vice-versa.

Post: #40

Based off my interactions with black friends, and lots of clubbing what I can see is (speaking of averages), a flashy "typical" black guy can get black women throwing pussy at him like Roger Clemens throwing fastballs. I don't think there is any other group of men who have such readily available access to women and pussy. even a black guy with little game can go out and get 3-4 black chicks in one night. I think I saw one of the veterans on the website say black girls are the easiest. Online, they probably have a disadvantage just due to the fact that when the average white girl goes online, she probably searches for a white dude because she is imaging finding a guy who looks like some white guy from the bachelor or a movie or something. I'd have rather seen the op send the same message with similar profiles but different races to the SAME people and see the different responses if any. Anyway, where black guys make up 10% or more of the population, they seem to be at a disadvantage, but when black guys are like 2% of the population they seem to be able to pull more chicks in those areas.

I'm not going to lie, the general quality of black girls where I reside is low. But its not like an average typical white guy is banging hot girls regularly, his closest equivalent will be an asian girl, who is equally low if not worse in quality (uglier face and no body)- these are generalizations bear in mind of where I reside. If you are a white guy who is a male model sure you will be getting hot girls but I don't any male model is having trouble getting girls.

Post: #41

I am mixed and I can 2nd that. I do terrible online but in person I don't have any problems with any race.

(11-01-2012 03:28 PM)dly267 Wrote:  very interesting thread.

i'm black and have dated / hooked up with white girls during high school and college, etc. and not the stereotypical big-boned ones that people think are the only kind black dudes can get. lol. they were pretty attractive. this red-haired one in particular. i'm tempted to attach a pic of her on here, but i'm paranoid about doing that. she was like 5'6", 115. worked at a hair salon. i'd get nervous cuz guys would be looking at me like how the hell did this dude get that chick. lol.

but in my opinion, rest assured, she, and the other ones i've dated. if i would have met them on a dating website first, as opposed to in person, they would definitely not have given me the time of day. i'm not saying ALL black guys are at a disadvantage on dating sites, but i know for me in particular, the same type of girls that ignore me on there are the same types that i've had success with once they get the full effect of meeting me in person whether it's at school, the mall, etc. but i guess i'd rather keep it that way as opposed to having it vice-versa.

Post: #42

(10-02-2012 05:20 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 05:07 PM)jammer Wrote:  Interesting thing from that is black men overall reply at a 47% rate to messages sent to them by females, but they reply to black females at 37% compared to 51% to white females and 55% to Asians/Middle easterns. It looks like even black guys hate black women online.

But was quality controlled when comparing the black women? I know when I was doing online dating(last time was in mid 2000s), the black women that would hit me up were usually wack. Often overweight or with a kid or just ghetto-looking.

I guarantee you if it was this black woman sending out messages to brothas her reply rate would be 100%.

How you think the reply rate would be if they saw the full picture, brah?

Post: #43

(10-02-2012 03:45 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(10-02-2012 01:26 AM)PickupNinja Wrote:  For that reason I don't recommend online for black guys. You will be stereotyped relentlessly. Regardless of location. This was done in a "liberal" area known for "diversity".

Stick with night game (hip hop based nightclubs give black guys an advantage) and complement with social circle. Day game is tricky but still doable.

I am on the floor LMAO.

Post: #44

(11-01-2012 10:40 PM)wildwyaatt Wrote:  Based off my interactions with black friends, and lots of clubbing what I can see is (speaking of averages), a flashy "typical" black guy can get black women throwing pussy at him like Roger Clemens throwing fastballs. I don't think there is any other group of men who have such readily available access to women and pussy. even a black guy with little game can go out and get 3-4 black chicks in one night. I think I saw one of the veterans on the website say black girls are the easiest. Online, they probably have a disadvantage just due to the fact that when the average white girl goes online, she probably searches for a white dude because she is imaging finding a guy who looks like some white guy from the bachelor or a movie or something. I'd have rather seen the op send the same message with similar profiles but different races to the SAME people and see the different responses if any. Anyway, where black guys make up 10% or more of the population, they seem to be at a disadvantage, but when black guys are like 2% of the population they seem to be able to pull more chicks in those areas.

I'm not going to lie, the general quality of black girls where I reside is low. But its not like an average typical white guy is banging hot girls regularly, his closest equivalent will be an asian girl, who is equally low if not worse in quality (uglier face and no body)- these are generalizations bear in mind of where I reside. If you are a white guy who is a male model sure you will be getting hot girls but I don't any male model is having trouble getting girls.

Guys guys guys.
There is no point in talking about it without talking about Geography. I put my self on a Language site, to practice a language online.(Asia) I was flooded.

However, I distinctly remember Ali online gaming in DR and having more girls message him initially before he conversed with them.
He said most of them were pros or asking for money. Also, he had a paid account at the time, and I didnt. However, I did knocked down alot from there by pipelining. But I got my DR online game down to a science.

Post: #45

This is not even close to true.
I am black. haven't done online dating in a couple of months but I got my share easily on okcupid.
I have seen my cousin pulling two hot asian asses from okcupid, I was astonished by the talent he pulled but again he is also black.

To me skin color has absolutely nothing to do with pulling chicks. It's all about your character, the way you dress and your social skills level. White,black,asian it doesn't really matter. As long as you are a real man, you'll get the pussy.

Survival of the fittest, it's just the way it works.

It's true that it's hard to show all of that online, it's true we have stereotypes.

But you only need to be a real G to get pussy. The race issue is just insecurity.

Post: #46

Trick I learned on OkC. When you're looking at a chick's profile, look at the questions she's answered. Then scroll down a bit and near the button of the page on the right there is a search box. Search 'racial' and it should show you their answer to the following question:

"Would you strongly prefer to go out with someone of your own skin color / racial background?"

I messaged each woman that answered 'no' to this question than I thought was attractive enough to fuck. I received very positive responses from the vast majority of them.

Post: #47

(11-16-2012 11:22 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  Trick I learned on OkC. When you're looking at a chick's profile, look at the questions she's answered. Then scroll down a bit and near the button of the page on the right there is a search box. Search 'racial' and it should show you their answer to the following question:

"Would you strongly prefer to go out with someone of your own skin color / racial background?"

I messaged each woman that answered 'no' to this question than I thought was attractive enough to fuck. I received very positive responses from the vast majority of them.

I do my pipelining on Tagged, and one of the methods I use to try to gauge whether or not someone will be receptive is to look at their friends list. If there are black guys on her friends list, I know she's open. I'll initiate contact with women that may not have any black guys on her friends list if there's something else in her profile that gives me an idea that she may be a cool person. Most of the time I just holler at whoever I think is attractive and see if I get a response regardless of any other indicators, but sometimes I do a little digging.

Post: #48

(11-16-2012 11:44 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(11-16-2012 11:22 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  Trick I learned on OkC. When you're looking at a chick's profile, look at the questions she's answered. Then scroll down a bit and near the button of the page on the right there is a search box. Search 'racial' and it should show you their answer to the following question:

"Would you strongly prefer to go out with someone of your own skin color / racial background?"

I messaged each woman that answered 'no' to this question than I thought was attractive enough to fuck. I received very positive responses from the vast majority of them.

I do my pipelining on Tagged, and one of the methods I use to try to gauge whether or not someone will be receptive is to look at their friends list. If there are black guys on her friends list, I know she's open. I'll initiate contact with women that may not have any black guys on her friends list if there's something else in her profile that gives me an idea that she may be a cool person. Most of the time I just holler at whoever I think is attractive and see if I get a response regardless of any other indicators, but sometimes I do a little digging.

I answered that question myself a long time ago. and set it to "mandatory"
that way i can click for quesions i care about.

that being said.
ive hook lines chicks that put yes.
Some women just need a little more coaxing...
some are just scared to be seen dating other races in public.
Some just put yes because,putting no would be a turn off the white guys. ( same reason why lots of porn starts wont fuck blacks on camera)

Post: #49

(11-16-2012 11:59 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

(11-16-2012 11:44 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

(11-16-2012 11:22 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  Trick I learned on OkC. When you're looking at a chick's profile, look at the questions she's answered. Then scroll down a bit and near the button of the page on the right there is a search box. Search 'racial' and it should show you their answer to the following question:

"Would you strongly prefer to go out with someone of your own skin color / racial background?"

I messaged each woman that answered 'no' to this question than I thought was attractive enough to fuck. I received very positive responses from the vast majority of them.

I do my pipelining on Tagged, and one of the methods I use to try to gauge whether or not someone will be receptive is to look at their friends list. If there are black guys on her friends list, I know she's open. I'll initiate contact with women that may not have any black guys on her friends list if there's something else in her profile that gives me an idea that she may be a cool person. Most of the time I just holler at whoever I think is attractive and see if I get a response regardless of any other indicators, but sometimes I do a little digging.

I answered that question myself a long time ago. and set it to "mandatory"
that way i can click for quesions i care about.

that being said.
ive hook lines chicks that put yes.
Some women just need a little more coaxing...
some are just scared to be seen dating other races in public.
Some just put yes because,putting no would be a turn off the white guys. ( same reason why lots of porn starts wont fuck blacks on camera)

This is a good point that I didn't think to put in my post. I actually have some ongoing communication with some chicks, but they wouldn't add me to their friends list. Some women are conscious about others seeing what their friends look like, because they know some people will judge them based on that.

Post: #50

I'd say the brothas are doing pretty good with online stereo typing...