Post: #76

(11-29-2012 08:18 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  one girl i stayed in bed with for a couple days straight is pretty strict on getting with black guys..checked her computer and found only interracial porn and black fantasy stuff.

even as far as Hungary. i one night standed a girl and found out she already had a black boyfriend.

none of these girls seemed like the stereotype black guy Hunter. but they all were easy lays.

more girls than not, have been chicks that seem to have a fetish for black guys and in just filling that fantasy.

The same happens to me. It seems like ALL of the non-black girls I have messed with are in love with black guys. Online I get few replies but still manage to get some lays 2-3 a month, but in night game I notice that there are a lot of girls that are really black-curious. I find that in person I have a better chance than online, being that I'm a dark skin mix man.

Being with a dark skin man is a fantasy for a lot of non-black women. A sexual fantasy can be temporarily resolve with a simple view of porn while at home, while in private and no one will know. When these girls get a chance in person to meet a attractive black man, they carry out that fantasy and this makes most dark skin guys game seem weak.

I have to work harder to get laid with a 7 that is dark skin, as opposed to a black-curious Caucasian women.

Post: #77

As a black guy I wouldn't even bother with okcupid and POF. Not so much because of racist white chicks but because every broke, dusty, thirsty negro who can put two sentences together is up there annoying bitches to oblivion with their wack Game. They add so much noise to the equation that even Black chicks are writing brothas off because of the thryst factor. My chances were always better on pay sites, the more expensive the better. It keeps the riff raff out.

Post: #78

(12-01-2012 05:20 PM)Doulos2Game Wrote:  Online I get few replies but still manage to get some lays 2-3 a month

If you're getting 2-3 new lays a month online, you're doing extraordinarily well, considering that most men are lucky if they even get 3 serious replies back in a month. Even outside of online dating, 3 new lays a month is pretty good considering that the average man has about 8 partners his entire life. 3 new ones a month if consistent, that's 36 a year.

Post: #79

Black dudes holding up faux championship belts for picking up BBC whores get thrown in the same no-game bag as white PUAs who sell videos of themselves picking up Asian chicks.

There's nothing special about bagging some shit that only wants you for your dick, which is the case with most white women. They go out of their way to have nothing Black in their lives except for whoever's dick they're taking and the Drake album in their car.

Those who recognize they're the prize and have more to offer steer clear of that shit. Those who need to feel them better about themselves and/or need some sort of financial come up are unconsciously chasing these chicks as if they have anything of real value to offer.

Post: #80

Yes I have been doing well but I know its a numbers game and I have only been on POF for 4 months. When I was at my peak, I was messaging about 25-30 girls a day. But since I live in a area where there aren't many options that are in a 20 mile radius, I had to take a month or so off. I exhausted my potential bangs.

(12-01-2012 06:24 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  As a black guy I wouldn't even bother with okcupid and POF. Not so much because of racist white chicks but because every broke, dusty, thirsty negro who can put two sentences together is up there annoying bitches to oblivion with their wack Game. They add so much noise to the equation that even Black chicks are writing brothas off because of the thryst factor. My chances were always better on pay sites, the more expensive the better. It keeps the riff raff out.

But without a doubt it is harder for us to game girls (even the dark skin ones), due to a lot of guys that message them with "hey sexy", or "dam mama". This has diminish our overall quality a bit. She immediately thinks you are a "thug" or "a low life".

Post: #81

(12-01-2012 08:16 PM)Doulos2Game Wrote:  ...When I was at my peak, I was messaging about 25-30 girls a day. But since I live in a area where there aren't many options...I exhausted my potential bangs.

i know for me, the best scenario is to make online dating (P.O.F., Match, etc.) a supplement to the traditional outside game, not a substitute. i've tried online as the only sole method before and.. well.. even though lightning struck big-time on 2, 3 occasions for me in years past, this was before cell phones offered texting, to show you how long ago that was. lol. now, not so much.

i saw a girl's pictures online one time. i mean, she looked okay. i think i had a shot, but i wasn't into it. when i randomly walked by her at college months later, i recognized her. and, wow... she looked good as hell! could never tell from the pictures, which she had a lot of, uploaded. obviously, i regret not talking to her in hindsight. but if i was like that with her pics, imagine how picky girls are with us when they're in that position.

Post: #82

I've been on OKC for about 3 years while living in a big Texas city and it's worked like gangbusters for me. Never bothered with POF, because I've only ever heard that it's full of skanks and single moms, or Match/Eharmony, because why pay for this bullshit. If OKC isn't working for you, you need to change up your game, especially if you're hitting on predominantly non-black women. Yeah, there's a subset who will just fall over with their legs up in the air for any dude with a high melanin count, but those are to be summarily avoided or pumped-and-dumped. I would say that black guys have an advantage in some ways, because if you can present yourself as being educated, well-traveled, well-dressed, fit, motivated, and having potential to do well in the future, you will stand out from the pack even more so. While they won't say it outright, most white girls I've slept with from OKC love the fact that they found a "good one".

The caveat here is that your game has to be TIGHT. No "Hey" messages, no "Hi, my name is X, how are you" bullshit, no "winks". The gender ratio on OKC is more skewed than all the shitty "sausage fest" clubs or bars in the world, save for maybe a few in DC. You have to be dropping tight game and quickly transitioning from OKC messages to text or meeting. Otherwise you're just another goober inflating a girls ego simply by the dint of acknowledging her on the website. There is no margin for error, unless you want to be scooped by one of the other 100 dudes in line.

I've slept with over a dozen girls from OKC in the last year, on top of women I pull from school/bars/events/etc. I have two dates today, one with a 23 year old grad student and then another with a 20 year old undergrad. Both 7's, and they both messaged me first; all I had to do was set up the locations where it worked for my logistics (walking distance to apartment, nice ambiance, etc). Don't sleep on OKC, it's what you make of it. Skin color is not an excuse.

Post: #83

(12-02-2012 11:03 AM)Skyeater Wrote:  If OKC isn't working for you, you need to change up your game, especially if you're hitting on predominantly non-black women.

Yes

(12-02-2012 11:03 AM)Skyeater Wrote:  I would say that black guys have an advantage in some ways, because if you can present yourself as being educated, well-traveled, well-dressed, fit, motivated, and having potential to do well in the future, you will stand out from the pack even more so. While they won't say it outright, most white girls I've slept with from OKC love the fact that they found a "good one".

Yes

(12-02-2012 11:03 AM)Skyeater Wrote:  OKC, it's what you make of it. Skin color is not an excuse.

YES


I would only add that not only is

Skyeater Wrote:Skin color is not an excuse.

I would say its a strength, similar to being built, having x accent or naturally y hair colour, having the seksi bizismen or shaggy artist vibe etc.

Some of those are not things you can learn / change, most of them are, and all of them have a niche of girls who will gobble up your ...vibe, because of it.

Complaining that we are at a disadvantage because of our skin colour is just ...unproductive

...on second though keep thinking that and leave more for me.

Post: #84

(12-01-2012 06:24 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  As a black guy I wouldn't even bother with okcupid and POF. Not so much because of racist white chicks but because every broke, dusty, thirsty negro who can put two sentences together is up there annoying bitches to oblivion with their wack Game. They add so much noise to the equation that even Black chicks are writing brothas off because of the thryst factor. My chances were always better on pay sites, the more expensive the better. It keeps the riff raff out.

Its not really fair to say a non-black chick is racist just because she rejected a black guys advances, although I agree with your other points. As an aside, I would also say that many sisters actually revel in the attention although they may say otherwise. One needs to look no further than the attention whoring on Facebook and Twitter to see this dynamic(i.e. posting dozens of half naked pics on Instragram, while bemoaning "thirsty" guys on Twitter). Tearing down the wall of the more desirable black chicks can be tough, but thats always been the case for Black guys especially. At the end of the day, they are alot more limited in the dating world than black men are.

Post: #85

(12-02-2012 03:45 PM)iWin Wrote:  

(12-01-2012 06:24 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  As a black guy I wouldn't even bother with okcupid and POF. Not so much because of racist white chicks but because every broke, dusty, thirsty negro who can put two sentences together is up there annoying bitches to oblivion with their wack Game. They add so much noise to the equation that even Black chicks are writing brothas off because of the thryst factor. My chances were always better on pay sites, the more expensive the better. It keeps the riff raff out.

Its not really fair to say a non-black chick is racist just because she rejected a black guys advances, although I agree with your other points. As an aside, I would also say that many sisters actually revel in the attention although they may say otherwise. One needs to look no further than the attention whoring on Facebook and Twitter to see this dynamic(i.e. posting dozens of half naked pics on Instragram, while bemoaning "thirsty" guys on Twitter). Tearing down the wall of the more desirable black chicks can be tough, but thats always been the case for Black guys especially. At the end of the day, they are alot more limited in the dating world than black men are.

That is not what he is saying, although I can understand your thinking so (a lot gets lost in text only communication).

Read his post again, like this:

(12-01-2012 06:24 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  As a black guy I wouldn't even bother with okcupid and POF. Not so much because of [ quote fingers ]--> "racist white chicks" but because every broke, dusty, thirsty negro who can put two sentences together is up there annoying bitches to oblivion with their wack Game.

He is dismissing the assertion that we have it bad online due to racism and draws attention to the oft unmentioned fact the it is due to morons poisoning the well.

Post: #86

(12-02-2012 04:12 PM)TheMan Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 03:45 PM)iWin Wrote:  

(12-01-2012 06:24 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  As a black guy I wouldn't even bother with okcupid and POF. Not so much because of racist white chicks but because every broke, dusty, thirsty negro who can put two sentences together is up there annoying bitches to oblivion with their wack Game. They add so much noise to the equation that even Black chicks are writing brothas off because of the thryst factor. My chances were always better on pay sites, the more expensive the better. It keeps the riff raff out.

Its not really fair to say a non-black chick is racist just because she rejected a black guys advances, although I agree with your other points. As an aside, I would also say that many sisters actually revel in the attention although they may say otherwise. One needs to look no further than the attention whoring on Facebook and Twitter to see this dynamic(i.e. posting dozens of half naked pics on Instragram, while bemoaning "thirsty" guys on Twitter). Tearing down the wall of the more desirable black chicks can be tough, but thats always been the case for Black guys especially. At the end of the day, they are alot more limited in the dating world than black men are.

That is not what he is saying, although I can understand your thinking so (a lot gets lost in text only communication).

Read his post again, like this:

(12-01-2012 06:24 PM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  As a black guy I wouldn't even bother with okcupid and POF. Not so much because of [ quote fingers ]--> "racist white chicks" but because every broke, dusty, thirsty negro who can put two sentences together is up there annoying bitches to oblivion with their wack Game.

He is dismissing the assertion that we have it bad online due to racism and draws attention to the oft unmentioned fact the it is due to morons poisoning the well.

My bad, point taken.I looked at that particular post in isolation.

Post: #87

Was browsing OKC today and came across someone I thought I knew. Clicked her profile and sure enough it was some chick I took to my dorm room after a frat party. Never talked to her again. Looked through her answers and she answered yes to strongly wanting to date her own race. Wonder if she'll tell anyone she's been fucked by big black dick.

Post: #88

Didn't want to start a new thread on this... didn't feel rather threadworthy but as more of an update.

Im gonna see if I can figure out and crack this in 2017 over here in Germany. Its my number 1 game priority.

Like the rest of you guys online, namely Tinder and Lovoo, have been complete disasters for me. The spread between the online pulls and in person are unreal.

I have tried a few tactics such as having many suit up pictures (since I do a little suit blogging on insta) in order to dispel "ghetto" stereotypes but still.. results got a little better but consistently bad.

Im going to try another round of pictures after I make some physical and style switchups and see what changes then.

I do fairly well in person but I would like to have online as a backup to my nightgame adventures and frankly... I just want to see if I can do it.

Post: #89

Like a said in a separate thread I get laid online more often since this year (with 6-6.5 arguably). However it works only on sites that have you put a description and list your tastes ( i am shit at Tinder).

I don't even have a suit pic or a social one, just one from 5 years ago where I am alone, you can't even see my face clearly because I am too afar and I am not even smiling. However my description is nice, interesting and inviting ( not even that long but it is playful). And I use a lot of humor in my conversations.

Do i have a low ROI on girls who accept talking to me? Absolutely. Do I blow my chances often during conversations? Hell yes. However:

1 woman in 5 among those who visit my profile let me talk to them
Most of the time I get the number when we talk.
I am at maybe 90% of successful SNL after the first meeting

You just gotta throw your net the furthest you can then use one or two particular advantadges you have and exploit them to the max. For me itis humor and poesy, so by the time we meet, even if I am not good-looking it does not even matter at this point since the job was done beforehand.

Don't give up brotha.

Post: #90

"Black guys are at a definite disadvantage online"

Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. I will however tell you who is certainly at a disadvantage, whether online or offline, and that is those who waste time complaining and feeling sorry for themselves.

There are two kinds of phenomena in life, those which we cannot influence and those which we can. So, make a note of those that fall into the first category and stop worrying about them and then take positive action regarding the second.

Post: #91

Agree. Disadvantages are the basis for adaptation and evolution.
We wouldn't be where we are today without them.

In a crowded field, for example with most online dating sites, I think it's natural
that a girl would respond to more guys of her own race than guys
outside of her race when given such an abundant choice. It's social conditioning.

Remember these girls constantly get bombarded by tons of guys online
every minute of the day. She probably just going with what she's used to.

However, if you take that crowded field away, for example when you meet a girl in person
then it's completely different game. At that moment in time, there is no abundant choice
and therefore no automatic response.

That's why as a black guy, it's even more important to do things like expand your social circles
and build deep relationships with a diversity of people. You've got to adapt and evolve your game.

Relying on the lone wolf strategy alone, as opposed to having lots of friends and getting to invited
to private events, will hold you back as a brother from meeting some amazing girls.

Post: #92

Online dating is generally a shitshow for 99% of minority guys. Can't believe no one bothered to post this yet:

https://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-...-you-back/

The same trends have been observed in other sites as well. I used to work for another well known one here in the US and we saw that in our data too, FYI.

Solution: real life game, ie, day game, night game, social circle game etc.

Post: #93

I've written about this topic from an Inner Game perspective.

The tough part for minority men is to discern the difference in their own mind about what types of women are open to them.

Some guys generalize that "if x and y white women didn't like me, it's because of 1) race and 2) other white women don't like me either." This causes a defensive mode meaning that you walk into an approach with judgment, assuming the girl is already judging you. At that point you will surely come across as "try hard" to the girl. This isn't even easy to spot in yourself. For example, say there is a minority guy who grew up in poverty, never played sports and had to work really hard just to survive. He meets a white girl who says "I grew up in Wisconsin and loved playing ice hockey." Don't 1) profess how you like ice hockey all of a sudden or 2) Fully hide how you grew up from her completely just to "relate" to her. These 2 reasons, which are lack of frame control and also lack of genuine honesty, are PREVALENT with minority guys. I am honestly still unraveling this side of me and it's not easy.

A lot of factors can cause this beyond just pure lack of confidence or self awareness. For example, if you have not gtown up in the US around white people or did not have white friends, why would you expect you would have the same difficulty level as a white guy that had those advantages. It doesn't make logical sense.

So all you can do is be honest and show who you are, because if you're trying too hard to be an American white guy, truth is she can go out and find a better one because that's not you.

Post: #94

A good looking black guy with game will fair much better than a white guy in Northern Europe. I've lived in Denmark for 3 years and a lot of my black friends were cleaning up with those amazing danish girls.
Asian women are very racist towards black men, no need to be PC about this.
Let me rephrase it, asian women are flat out racist. They will choose a average looking white guy over a good looking black guy any day. They are even racist towards their own race.


I am Turkish, and in northern Europe we are the bottom of the barrel. Even those feminist SJW's will not give the time of the day to an average looking Turk. But black guys get a lot of attention in northern Europe. I'm not saying this to bitch about northern girls being racist, honestly with the influx of islamist refugees I too would be wary of middle eastern guys. They have every right... What I do is I respect their opinion and don't go to these countries, I focus on EE instead. Black brothas should do the same. Fuck asian/american girls, go danish,swedish,Finnish.

Copenhagen and Stockholm are a goldmine for black guys who are willing to put in the effort. A muscular black guy with a suit will clean up like a motherfucker in northern europe.

Always play the game in the country you have an advantage.

If you're tied to the states its no problem. IRL I know a lot of white girls who love black guys. IMHO Indian and Asian guys have it far worse in the states than black men.

Post: #95

(12-09-2016 12:02 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  If you're tied to the states its no problem. IRL I know a lot of white girls who love black guys. IMHO Indian and Asian guys have it far worse in the states than black men.

Guess me and the other Indian brown brothers on the forum are the exceptions to the rule (I also get that I look hispanic, which makes sense here in SoCal)

I'd say we clean up fairly well throughout the different gals here.

I'll agree most Asian girls don't give me the time of day BUT one of my goals this year was to bang as many Asian girls as possible and I sure as hell accomplished that.

Reading Moma and Rudebwoys black game thread proves that these cats can clean house.

Post: #96

(12-09-2016 02:21 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 12:02 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  If you're tied to the states its no problem. IRL I know a lot of white girls who love black guys. IMHO Indian and Asian guys have it far worse in the states than black men.

Guess me and the other Indian brown brothers on the forum are the exceptions to the rule (I also get that I look hispanic, which makes sense here in SoCal)

I'd say we clean up fairly well throughout the different gals here.

I'll agree most Asian girls don't give me the time of day BUT one of my goals this year was to bang as many Asian girls as possible and I sure as hell accomplished that.

Reading Moma and Rudebwoys black game thread proves that these cats can clean house.

With some modifications any guy can be the exception. There is indian and then THERES INDIAN.

Indian v1:



Indian v2



2 Indians same skin tone, different style.

Style matters a lot.

Heck north indians can fair very well actually. India is a huge country with variations when it comes to looks. Some indians can nearly pass off as caucasian. Like nikki Lena.

Post: #97

I pretty much categorize Indians in two groups.

FOB's/Desi's and their Americanized assimilated brother.

The FOB's I see are usually H1B's with terrible haircuts, shitty sandals, and don't wear deodorant

Post: #98

LoL @ the haircuts and sandals.

Post: #99

(12-09-2016 03:39 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  LoL @ the haircuts and sandals.

It's fucking true man lol - we have an aerospace company right across the street with alot of Indian FOB's - I see them walking every week in groups and they eat a sub sandwich place.

It's a stereotype for a reason

Post: #100

(12-09-2016 03:52 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(12-09-2016 03:39 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  LoL @ the haircuts and sandals.

It's fucking true man lol - we have an aerospace company right across the street with alot of Indian FOB's - I see them walking every week in groups and they eat a sub sandwich place.

It's a stereotype for a reason

Our application development department is the same way, lol. One day I'm going to try to convince some of the cats I'm cool with to let me take them to my barber shop to get a fade and a line up. Some nice jeans, blazer and loafers and they'd be killing the game!