(06-17-2017 01:43 PM)StackGsMan Wrote:  I'll be back in LA in a few months and plan to stay at least a few years.

Why on earth would you subject yourself to this kind of torture? LOL, have you not read this thread? It's your call but can't see why you would move to a place that everyone here says is garbage for a myriad of reasons.

Come on, man. You should know better.

I'm traveling back to the East Coast as I type this. Currently in Des Moines, Iowa. Yes, Iowa. For the night. I'll be in Chicago tomorrow. I am dead serious when I say this; the women here in IOWA look no different from the women in Los Mangeles. Same combo of attractive, okay, and unattractive women. This notion that LA is full of dimepieces is hilarious. And I don't want to hear this, "You lived in the Valley nonsense."

I was in Central LA all the time and went to the Westside weekly.

Another horrific element of LA that rarely gets mentioned, although the late great G Manifesto did hit on it, is the fact that LA is the LAnd of Snakes, in the wise words of J. Cole. It's full of cutthroat snakes in the grass (crabs in a bucket mentality). My wing and I have dealt with so many damn shady people within just the last year in LA; it's scary.

Of course, there are dirty, immoral people everywhere, but LA is literally chock full of them...would rarely meet slimy people like that in Chicago and NYC.

I honestly have no idea how any sane or fully functioning (or even partially functioning) human being could read this thread and think to himself, "I want to go to LA! Can't wait to get flaked on all the time, spend half my day sitting in traffic, and the other half my day dealing with fake people!"

I wouldn't wish for my worst enemy to live in LA, the ultimate pussy purgatory.

Dude has severe anxiety yet is moving to the toughest city in America? That's like taking someone out of a YMCA pick-up basketball game and throwing him into the NBA. StackGs seems like a solid dude but this is not gonna end well. Not sure where his head is at. Beyond bizarre.

You might as well move to Kansas to look for some oceanfront property while you're at...

(06-17-2017 10:23 PM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  Dude has severe anxiety yet is moving to the toughest city in America? That's like taking someone out of a YMCA pick-up basketball game and throwing him into the NBA. StackGs seems like a solid dude but this is not gonna end well. Not sure where his head is at. Beyond bizarre.

You might as well move to Kansas to look for some oceanfront property while you're at...

Naughty, I appreciate you trying to give me advice and I don't entirely disagree with you.

First, I wrote that I had severe social anxiety up until the later parts of college. I graduated when I was 21 and I'm 29 now. I have very little anxiety of any type with women or people at this point.

I am not trying my hand at moving to LA. I am basically doing so because I have to for reasons that I don't want to elaborate on. No one is putting a gun to my head and forcing me to go to LA, but it is my best option right now in terms of a career choice.

I agree that LA for the most part doesn't offer anything that can't be found elsewhere as far as the physical attractiveness of women. Also chances are very few people that move or live there will ever end up with the top notch girls LA has to offer.

All that being said, I think we can all agree that you tend to exaggerate about LA. I can understand or believe that it is hard to game in. I can even accept that it is the hardest major city in America. The thing is that I've lived there when I was socially anxious and knew next to nothing about game and I still managed to get laid. This was also before tinder and the girls were at or above the 6 range and they weren't social circle or college lays (except one).

Look, LA is a huge city, the second biggest in America. I highly doubt if a guy does 300 approaches on average in a month and has decent game he can't get with 3 new girls a month on average. If that doesn't happen I am pretty sure it is the guy. I've gotten more lays in Iran with absolutely no online game in three months than you have said you've gotten in this thread from being in LA for closer to a year doing both online and real time game. I highly doubt that LA is as hard as Iran, and as far as I know I am the one that has spent time in both places.

I've actually been thinking more and more that depending on how life goes for me in the coming years I am going to make an effort to move to NYC, but we will have to see.

At the very least I will take game in LA like a training ground. If I can battle through LA and hold my head up then everywhere in the US should be easy mode, right?

I feel like you are the type of guy that does the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and expects a different result. You seem like a solid guy as well, but I really doubt LA is hell in the sense that you've described. I will report back on my opinion once I hit the ground and get some results, or lack thereof.

(06-17-2017 01:43 PM)StackGsMan Wrote:  I'll be back in LA in a few months and plan to stay at least a few years. I've probably spent a total of about 5 years living in LA mostly during college, but I probably approached less than 200 girls in that entire 5 years. When I was trying to get over my severe social anxiety I used to regularly go to 3rd street to do day game, but basically that consisted of going to the Barnes and Noble and approaching one or two girls and going home. I was back in LA last year for a short time with a much better sense of game and barely any approach anxiety, but I didn't have much time and privacy to approach.

Guys always say that it is easy to find tourists on 3rd Street (SM). Is this really true? I mean it seem obvious to a certain degree, but I just can't recall speaking to more than a handful of foreign, non-American, tourists. I'm very interested in getting Flags and I love day game, so would it be worth it to make it out to 3rd street one day a week, probably on the weekend, and just try to game for like 1-3 hours? Also, can someone tell me the ideal time to be there on a Saturday or Sunday for the purpose of meeting single girls? I know 3rd street stays busy basically all day, but I feel like at night it becomes full of couples.

I will be living very close to DTLA, and although I want to spend a bit of time in the nightlife of SM/Venice and other beach cities, I don't want to drive to SM twice in one day. I'm thinking I'll just make it to Wilshire and take the bus out, reading a book both ways.

Thanks for the info in advance, it will save me many hours of trying to figure everything out on my own.

The thing about 3rd St Promenade is unless you have logistics to close them, you might be investing a lot of time only to get a flaky number and my personal past successes in LA have been off of instapulls/instadates. Unless you live by there, the ROI isn't there vs say a college campus during lunch hour or even the hospital areas in front of UCLA in WestWood. There's some streams for you.

Be careful of the ego boost phone #. If you previously had approach anxiety, it might be easy to just want to get a feel-good interaction with a cute female. Instead, go watch a sales movie like Glengarry Glen Ross or even Boiler Room. Nobody gets paid for just having a nice conversation with potential leads. You only rewarded with RESULTS. So unless you can bang em, what's the point of the time investment.

One area I just discovered this past weekend is Abbott Kinney on weekends. When I mentioned this to my friend who's originally from LA, he said it was a "gay area" I'll tell you this. For you guys who love white girls, time to put on your rainbow flag shirt because there were several hot looking blond white girls there. I was actually on an instadate from Venice which is near there so I couldn't actively hunt but I did put it on my "streams" list for further exploration in future.

(06-18-2017 01:55 AM)StackGsMan Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 10:23 PM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  Dude has severe anxiety yet is moving to the toughest city in America? That's like taking someone out of a YMCA pick-up basketball game and throwing him into the NBA. StackGs seems like a solid dude but this is not gonna end well. Not sure where his head is at. Beyond bizarre.

You might as well move to Kansas to look for some oceanfront property while you're at...

Naughty, I appreciate you trying to give me advice and I don't entirely disagree with you.

First, I wrote that I had severe social anxiety up until the later parts of college. I graduated when I was 21 and I'm 29 now. I have very little anxiety of any type with women or people at this point.

I am not trying my hand at moving to LA. I am basically doing so because I have to for reasons that I don't want to elaborate on. No one is putting a gun to my head and forcing me to go to LA, but it is my best option right now in terms of a career choice.

I agree that LA for the most part doesn't offer anything that can't be found elsewhere as far as the physical attractiveness of women. Also chances are very few people that move or live there will ever end up with the top notch girls LA has to offer.

All that being said, I think we can all agree that you tend to exaggerate about LA. I can understand or believe that it is hard to game in. I can even accept that it is the hardest major city in America. The thing is that I've lived there when I was socially anxious and knew next to nothing about game and I still managed to get laid. This was also before tinder and the girls were at or above the 6 range and they weren't social circle or college lays (except one).

Look, LA is a huge city, the second biggest in America. I highly doubt if a guy does 300 approaches on average in a month and has decent game he can't get with 3 new girls a month on average. If that doesn't happen I am pretty sure it is the guy. I've gotten more lays in Iran with absolutely no online game in three months than you have said you've gotten in this thread from being in LA for closer to a year doing both online and real time game. I highly doubt that LA is as hard as Iran, and as far as I know I am the one that has spent time in both places.

I've actually been thinking more and more that depending on how life goes for me in the coming years I am going to make an effort to move to NYC, but we will have to see.

At the very least I will take game in LA like a training ground. If I can battle through LA and hold my head up then everywhere in the US should be easy mode, right?

I feel like you are the type of guy that does the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and expects a different result. You seem like a solid guy as well, but I really doubt LA is hell in the sense that you've described. I will report back on my opinion once I hit the ground and get some results, or lack thereof.

A lot of ppl have ragged on Naughty for his pessimistic opinions and I agree they're negative and not helpful BUT..

Take emotion out of the equation and approach it like a business.

If you have ever been in Soho in NY, Kiev in Ukraine, Tokyo in Japan, YOU WILL find 90% less attractive women in LA in any concentrated area as it's so damn spread out in my opinion so prepare for it. This target market will have more supply of dicks in their face and thus will influence their behavior. Let me give you a real life example. My ex is used to wearing heels and dressing fashionable. For attractive girls, this is normal, no big deal. Suddenly she's walking down the street in the Valley and cars are beeping the horn at her, random guys who walk by her scream "nice ass" A year later, she's wearing sweats and putting on less makeup. As much as we blame the girls, it's really us dudes who fuck things up and it comes down to supply/demand economics and also cultural differences as certain prevalent cultures do not have as much femininity.

If you've only lived in sausagefest areas, you will probably really like it in LA and will think Naughty is overreacting. It's all perspective.

I personally believe in positive thinking and making best of situation to find solutions but unless one absolutely has to be in LA, or even California really, I recommend other cities for any male with high sex drive.

Just got back from a week long work trip in Long Beach. Thanks for the earlier advice. I wouldn't recommend it as a place to visit, but if you have too here are some good places to go. On Wednesday and Thursday I went to Panama Joes. The talent was great on Wednesday, got a make out with a college girl. Mostly young white girls. On Friday and Saturday I stayed on Pine street and went to Cuban Petes and Sevilla. Those are 100% Hispanic clubs, I was the only white guy there. The majority of girls are fat, but there are some good ones. I hooked up with one hot one at Sevilla and saw lots of people making out. Overall I had a good time, but wouldn't stay there again. I like Santa Monica, downtown and Hollywood better.

(06-18-2017 12:04 PM)Ultimate Wingman Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 01:43 PM)StackGsMan Wrote:  I'll be back in LA in a few months and plan to stay at least a few years. I've probably spent a total of about 5 years living in LA mostly during college, but I probably approached less than 200 girls in that entire 5 years. When I was trying to get over my severe social anxiety I used to regularly go to 3rd street to do day game, but basically that consisted of going to the Barnes and Noble and approaching one or two girls and going home. I was back in LA last year for a short time with a much better sense of game and barely any approach anxiety, but I didn't have much time and privacy to approach.

Guys always say that it is easy to find tourists on 3rd Street (SM). Is this really true? I mean it seem obvious to a certain degree, but I just can't recall speaking to more than a handful of foreign, non-American, tourists. I'm very interested in getting Flags and I love day game, so would it be worth it to make it out to 3rd street one day a week, probably on the weekend, and just try to game for like 1-3 hours? Also, can someone tell me the ideal time to be there on a Saturday or Sunday for the purpose of meeting single girls? I know 3rd street stays busy basically all day, but I feel like at night it becomes full of couples.

I will be living very close to DTLA, and although I want to spend a bit of time in the nightlife of SM/Venice and other beach cities, I don't want to drive to SM twice in one day. I'm thinking I'll just make it to Wilshire and take the bus out, reading a book both ways.

Thanks for the info in advance, it will save me many hours of trying to figure everything out on my own.

The thing about 3rd St Promenade is unless you have logistics to close them, you might be investing a lot of time only to get a flaky number and my personal past successes in LA have been off of instapulls/instadates. Unless you live by there, the ROI isn't there vs say a college campus during lunch hour or even the hospital areas in front of UCLA in WestWood. There's some streams for you.

Be careful of the ego boost phone #. If you previously had approach anxiety, it might be easy to just want to get a feel-good interaction with a cute female. Instead, go watch a sales movie like Glengarry Glen Ross or even Boiler Room. Nobody gets paid for just having a nice conversation with potential leads. You only rewarded with RESULTS. So unless you can bang em, what's the point of the time investment.

One area I just discovered this past weekend is Abbott Kinney on weekends. When I mentioned this to my friend who's originally from LA, he said it was a "gay area" I'll tell you this. For you guys who love white girls, time to put on your rainbow flag shirt because there were several hot looking blond white girls there. I was actually on an instadate from Venice which is near there so I couldn't actively hunt but I did put it on my "streams" list for further exploration in future.

(06-18-2017 01:55 AM)StackGsMan Wrote:  

(06-17-2017 10:23 PM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  Dude has severe anxiety yet is moving to the toughest city in America? That's like taking someone out of a YMCA pick-up basketball game and throwing him into the NBA. StackGs seems like a solid dude but this is not gonna end well. Not sure where his head is at. Beyond bizarre.

You might as well move to Kansas to look for some oceanfront property while you're at...

Naughty, I appreciate you trying to give me advice and I don't entirely disagree with you.

First, I wrote that I had severe social anxiety up until the later parts of college. I graduated when I was 21 and I'm 29 now. I have very little anxiety of any type with women or people at this point.

I am not trying my hand at moving to LA. I am basically doing so because I have to for reasons that I don't want to elaborate on. No one is putting a gun to my head and forcing me to go to LA, but it is my best option right now in terms of a career choice.

I agree that LA for the most part doesn't offer anything that can't be found elsewhere as far as the physical attractiveness of women. Also chances are very few people that move or live there will ever end up with the top notch girls LA has to offer.

All that being said, I think we can all agree that you tend to exaggerate about LA. I can understand or believe that it is hard to game in. I can even accept that it is the hardest major city in America. The thing is that I've lived there when I was socially anxious and knew next to nothing about game and I still managed to get laid. This was also before tinder and the girls were at or above the 6 range and they weren't social circle or college lays (except one).

Look, LA is a huge city, the second biggest in America. I highly doubt if a guy does 300 approaches on average in a month and has decent game he can't get with 3 new girls a month on average. If that doesn't happen I am pretty sure it is the guy. I've gotten more lays in Iran with absolutely no online game in three months than you have said you've gotten in this thread from being in LA for closer to a year doing both online and real time game. I highly doubt that LA is as hard as Iran, and as far as I know I am the one that has spent time in both places.

I've actually been thinking more and more that depending on how life goes for me in the coming years I am going to make an effort to move to NYC, but we will have to see.

At the very least I will take game in LA like a training ground. If I can battle through LA and hold my head up then everywhere in the US should be easy mode, right?

I feel like you are the type of guy that does the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and expects a different result. You seem like a solid guy as well, but I really doubt LA is hell in the sense that you've described. I will report back on my opinion once I hit the ground and get some results, or lack thereof.

A lot of ppl have ragged on Naughty for his pessimistic opinions and I agree they're negative and not helpful BUT..

Take emotion out of the equation and approach it like a business.

If you have ever been in Soho in NY, Kiev in Ukraine, Tokyo in Japan, YOU WILL find 90% less attractive women in LA in any concentrated area as it's so damn spread out in my opinion so prepare for it. This target market will have more supply of dicks in their face and thus will influence their behavior. Let me give you a real life example. My ex is used to wearing heels and dressing fashionable. For attractive girls, this is normal, no big deal. Suddenly she's walking down the street in the Valley and cars are beeping the horn at her, random guys who walk by her scream "nice ass" A year later, she's wearing sweats and putting on less makeup. As much as we blame the girls, it's really us dudes who fuck things up and it comes down to supply/demand economics and also cultural differences as certain prevalent cultures do not have as much femininity.

If you've only lived in sausagefest areas, you will probably really like it in LA and will think Naughty is overreacting. It's all perspective.

I personally believe in positive thinking and making best of situation to find solutions but unless one absolutely has to be in LA, or even California really, I recommend other cities for any male with high sex drive.

Ultimate, thanks for the reply but I think I've written this a few times now. I had social anxiety and approach anxiety heavily up until about 21. I am 29 now. I do not have any approach anxiety anymore. I am about as close to 0% approach anxiety as I think is possible.

I know there are tons of areas to day game around LA, but I was asking specifically about foreign girls on 3rd street. I know very well the difference between an approach, a number, and an actual lay. I just would like to meet foreign girls visiting LA in high numbers if possible. I will be doing the majority of my day game near where I live which will certainly keep me busy, but I doubt I will be meeting foreign girls there regularly. I am turning into a flag hunter and I know LA will present me with many options that I didn't previously have. I was just wondering if 3rd street was a good option for flags.

(06-18-2017 10:15 PM)StackGsMan Wrote:  Ultimate, thanks for the reply but I think I've written this a few times now. I had social anxiety and approach anxiety heavily up until about 21. I am 29 now. I do not have any approach anxiety anymore. I am about as close to 0% approach anxiety as I think is possible.

I know there are tons of areas to day game around LA, but I was asking specifically about foreign girls on 3rd street. I know very well the difference between an approach, a number, and an actual lay. I just would like to meet foreign girls visiting LA in high numbers if possible. I will be doing the majority of my day game near where I live which will certainly keep me busy, but I doubt I will be meeting foreign girls there regularly. I am turning into a flag hunter and I know LA will present me with many options that I didn't previously have. I was just wondering if 3rd street was a good option for flags.

3rd street is a decent option for flags. Especially in the summer, you will see a lot of tourists. You will see much more tourists there than you will see in downtown, and approaching on Hollywood Blvd isn't fun since in addition to tourists, there will be a ton of shady and annoying people walking around. Weather is usually pleasant and since it is a long 3-block stretch of stores (+ Santa Monica Place), it's hard to do better in terms of sheer size and volume.

I would say, however, that the best place for meeting international girls in that area is Venice Beach and the Boardwalk. Venice is super popular with younger foreign girls, and in the summer it is packed with them. There's even a pretty big hostel there on Windward (I think). I personally get bored as shit at malls, so I'm not willing to walk around for hours on the promenade just to talk to girls since I'm not enjoying the vibe. On the contrary, I love the beach, and I'll have a great time in Venice walking around or riding a bike, getting a nice tan, while also stopping to talk with girls when I see some that look chill. Last summer I went on a few different dates with girls that I met in Venice, all of whom were visiting from elsewhere (Sweden, Brazil, and a few other places). If you have a good body, all the more reason to stick with the beaches.

I'll be in L.A. for 5 days starting tomorrow for work.

It's been funny as hell reading the last few pages of this thread. Much like a relationship, you tend to romanticize the past and remember the good times. This thread is a good reminder of what it was really like.

French Tuesday White Party next Tuesday is going to be awesome. Highly recommend everyone hitting it up if you can.

https://www.frenchtuesdays.com/events/la062717/

The Friday night pool parties at the W are good if you are into Russian girls.

They don't get discussed often, but the valley has some great dive bars.

Yeah, the Pineapple Hill is great.

(06-21-2017 06:09 AM)underboss Wrote:  They don't get discussed often, but the valley has some great dive bars.

Why would anyone ever even go to the Valley though? Let alone to a dive bar there?

The point of a divebar (IMO) is that it's a local place to slum around in and have drinks and commiserate.

But then again that's the main issue with LA is lack of centralization. I live in Long Beach and I could never fathom commuting to Pasadena, Silverlake, the Valley, Hollywood, Culver, Venice, or Santa Monica just to hang out.

The only times I go out in different cities these days is for a friend/family members function like birthday or something.

Way too much hassle.

(06-21-2017 01:22 PM)Darkwing Buck Wrote:  The point of a divebar (IMO) is that it's a local place to slum around in and have drinks and commiserate.

Absolute bullshit.

Literally all my dates start at dive bars, I've pulled from divebars, banged outside dive bars, and I'm talking in the suburbs far away from LA.

Girls love it, it's small, cozy, low music, and a bit dark and moody (the good kind).

It's cheap, easy to kino, easy to interact with, usually their is pool and darts. Perfect for a first date or to play girls on teams if you have a wing.

I've seen all kinds of girls hangout at dive bars, it's actually TRENDY to go to dive bars in LA. Los Feliz has a bunch of those hipster dive bars for example.

College girls love it because it's cheap as well and they travel in packs, there is the rare occurrence a single girl goes out to her local dive bar, which is a good sign for you.

Do your research, start with your iPhone and search dive bars, check out the yelp reviews, find out their events (happy hour/college night/dollar beers) etc.

I live for dive bars !

(06-21-2017 01:34 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(06-21-2017 01:22 PM)Darkwing Buck Wrote:  The point of a divebar (IMO) is that it's a local place to slum around in and have drinks and commiserate.

Absolute bullshit.

Literally all my dates start at dive bars, I've pulled from divebars, banged outside dive bars, and I'm talking in the suburbs far away from LA.

Girls love it, it's small, cozy, low music, and a bit dark and moody (the good kind).

It's cheap, easy to kino, easy to interact with, usually their is pool and darts. Perfect for a first date or to play girls on teams if you have a wing.

I've seen all kinds of girls hangout at dive bars, it's actually TRENDY to go to dive bars in LA. Los Feliz has a bunch of those hipster dive bars for example.

College girls love it because it's cheap as well and they travel in packs, there is the rare occurrence a single girl goes out to her local dive bar, which is a good sign for you.

Do your research, start with your iPhone and search dive bars, check out the yelp reviews, find out their events (happy hour/college night/dollar beers) etc.

I live for dive bars !

When did I say you can't take dates to a dive bar? Please quote me, I'll wait.

I always take my dates to the more "chill/relaxed" spots especially when starting the night.

That being the case, why the fuck would I go out of my way to a dive bar? Like why would I consider leaving my city for this? That changes nothing about the point of my post. Also for date logistics it would be monumentally stupid for me to go to another city instead of potentially walking distance from my house.

That was the point of my post about LA logistics. I don't give a fuck how cool a divebar is in the Valley cuz I live in Long Beach. There's NO reason for me to be in the Valley.

Never said that, but your opinion on dive bars don't hold any water.

Dive bars are usually chill and relaxed - depending on your definition.

Who said you had to go anywhere ?

I said DO YOUR RESEARCH - you know, as in find some close to your locale? - you can apply that anywhere.

Stop being angry and defensive - you sound like Naughty By Nature right now.

(06-21-2017 03:37 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Never said that, but your opinion on dive bars don't hold any water.

Dive bars are usually chill and relaxed - depending on your definition.

Who said you had to go anywhere ?

I said DO YOUR RESEARCH - you know, as in find some close to your locale? - you can apply that anywhere.

Stop being angry and defensive - you sound like Naughty By Nature right now.

Bro. I never said anything against dive bars. Did you even read my post? I said why would I go somewhere FAR AWAY. You didn't even fucking read my post. You saw me questioning why I would go to a dive bar IN THE VALLEY and you immediately started defending something I never even attacked in the first place.

My post is not anti-dive bar it's anti-LA logistics. You literally took one sentence out of context and ignored the rest of my post.

No shit I'm being defensive when you either totally misrepresented my post or you didn't even bother to read the whole thing.

So I repeat, when did I ever say don't go to dive bars or that dive bars are bad? Please quote me. I'll wait.

I never said go to the valley.

So there are no dive bars in LB?

Are you blind to what I'm saying ? I said your LOCALE.

Dive bars are anti logistics ?



You've been in LB how long and never found any good ones ?

Alex's Bar for one is a famous one, along with being a venue, V Room, Stache bar, those are just off the top of my head I frequented.

Quote:The point of a divebar (IMO) is that it's a local place to slum around in and have drinks and commiserate.

^^There's your quote - "slum" "commiserate" are used in a negative context, which means you shouldn't go there.

Hench why I said that's bullshit.

Next.

I used to go to Valley dive bars in my 20s. I had a bunch of friends that lived out there and we hit it up. There were usually some local lounge lizards we could hit up and hot girls do go there earlier on in the evening as a first stop. My logistics now dictate I don't do that anymore though, 5-7 mile radius is all I do now. There are some dive bars, but honestly I like lounges much better. Just not my scene.

(06-21-2017 04:47 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I never said go to the valley.

So there are no dive bars in LB?

Are you blind to what I'm saying ? I said your LOCALE.

Dive bars are anti logistics ?



You've been in LB how long and never found any good ones ?

Alex's Bar for one is a famous one, along with being a venue, V Room, Stache bar, those are just off the top of my head I frequented.

Quote:The point of a divebar (IMO) is that it's a local place to slum around in and have drinks and commiserate.

^^There's your quote - "slum" "commiserate" are used in a negative context, which means you shouldn't go there.

Hench why I said that's bullshit.

Next.

WHEN THE FUCK DID I SAY I DON'T KNOW WHERE DIVEBARS ARE IN LONG BEACH?

Do you have anything based off what I actually said or just fucking bullshit? I've been going to half those venues since before I even moved here.

I never once said divebars are bad or that I don't know where they are. I have to assume English isn't your first language or you don't know basic fucking reading comprehension for you to be saying this bullshit.

I said, WHY WOULD I GO TO THE VALLEY. I never once said I can't find local places or that dive bars are bad. I NEVER SAID dive bars are anti logistics. I said WHY WOULD ANYONE GO TO THE VALLEY.

My post was about why would I TRAVEL for a divebar. I used to spend every weekend at divebars I never said divebars are bad. I simply questioned why people would TRAVEL/COMMUTE to attend.

For the last fucking time stop misrepresenting what I post. You jumped off the handle cuz you thought I was attacking dive bars when I never did such thing. You then doubled down and told me I can't find locations close to me when I never said that.

STOP MAKING SHIT UP. Read what the fuck I'm saying if you're going to try and talk to me instead of making shit up. Like I said in my very first response to you, QUOTE ME instead of projecting and making things up. I'm speaking very plain English here.

I don't know why you have to turn simple statements into personal attacks and dick measuring contests but you can take that bullshit the fuck elsewhere. And if you're gonna argue with me argue with me on shit I actually said not shit you're making up.

Lmao. this thread is crazy...

(Yesterday 01:51 PM)spaceman Wrote:  Lmao. this thread is crazy...

Are you trying to fight me, bro?


Anyway, Santa Monica 3rd Street Promenade was full of international tourist girls last night/yesterday afternoon. Beaches will be packed. Multiple parties every week.

Its gonna be a great summer in LA, y'all need to stop worrying about these little insignificant aspects of LA logistics, early closing hours, basic bitches, coffee dates, traffic and enjoy the city and go out and get laid.

last night was lit. this weekend is going to be crazy w/recent graduates.

We had a pre-game with 12 girls and 3 guys....then got a table @ the club w/more girls there (promoter table). My 2 buddies pulled that same night. I went for the 3-some and one girl just got too drunk but i was making out w/both of them and making them kiss each other. Airball.

Clearly, LA is dead. No hope.

Lol, i guess naughty by nature left and all the girls decided to come out to play.

Just kidding

(06-22-2017 04:59 PM)DVY Wrote:  last night was lit. this weekend is going to be crazy w/recent graduates.

We had a pre-game with 12 girls and 3 guys....then got a table @ the club w/more girls there (promoter table). My 2 buddies pulled that same night. I went for the 3-some and one girl just got too drunk but i was making out w/both of them and making them kiss each other. Airball.

Clearly, LA is dead. No hope.

Went out last night with my neighbor for the first time in a while. I've been trying to control my drinking and focus on school and work so haven't been out gaming much.

Started at Agaves which is not my favorite spot because I think it has a shitty lay out and there are better options but I may give it more chances. The fact it has a patio where you can smoke and do approaches is a big plus. Loud clubs without any area conducive to conversation and approaching without dancing are not my favorite.

We went out with his ex and her friend in downtown Long Beach. I approached a couple black chicks and they ended up being Swedish Nigerians... I ditched my neighbor and the 2 girls we came with for 10 minutes to try and see what was going on with the Swedes.

One was lightskinned and one was dark chocolate and they had funny accents. Both were several inches taller than me. I got one girl's number cuz she found out I was Nigerian too and she for some reason loved that. The light skin one. Also when I first approached them and they said they were Swedish I greeted them with a "skol!" and they were hooked after that. They were asking if I spoke Swedish and I told them some other Swedish girls I had met downtown had taught me.

I caught the dark skin one walking by the bar and I had to leave and ended up kissing her. First time I went in she shied away and the second time she kinda giggled and gave in and kissed me back. Then I dipped out cuz I had to wingman my neighbor and they wanted to go to a gay bar lol. Plus I got her number for whatsapp.

Then we went to the gaybar and hung out before coming home. Unfortunately the girls we rolled with left right away cuz they had work in the morning. Then he invited two more chicks over, one of which I'd already banged several times.

I then got too drunk and coked out and made an ass out of myself and blacked out and woke up in my room.

For some reason I've met quite a few Swedish chicks visiting Long Beach though I do know there's a somewhat popular English school for Europeans here in downtown. I've met Swedes, Danes, French, and Swiss chicks down here on random occassions. Also didn't know there were so many black/mixed Swedes.

I'm still mad about the huge cockblock of one of the hottest girls I've gamed a blond Danish chick. Honestly not used to rolling with a chick that hot and we were getting serious attention and head turns holding hands walking down the street and in the bar. Not sure if it was her hotness or why she was diggin a guy like me. Her friend had a vendetta against me though and ruined everything. Not gonna lie though I felt pretty powerful and confident with a bombshell on my arm. Gotta step my game up.

(06-23-2017 08:32 PM)Darkwing Buck Wrote:  

(06-22-2017 04:59 PM)DVY Wrote:  last night was lit. this weekend is going to be crazy w/recent graduates.

We had a pre-game with 12 girls and 3 guys....then got a table @ the club w/more girls there (promoter table). My 2 buddies pulled that same night. I went for the 3-some and one girl just got too drunk but i was making out w/both of them and making them kiss each other. Airball.

Clearly, LA is dead. No hope.

Went out last night with my neighbor for the first time in a while. I've been trying to control my drinking and focus on school and work so haven't been out gaming much.

Started at Agaves which is not my favorite spot because I think it has a shitty lay out and there are better options but I may give it more chances. The fact it has a patio where you can smoke and do approaches is a big plus. Loud clubs without any area conducive to conversation and approaching without dancing are not my favorite.

We went out with his ex and her friend in downtown Long Beach. I approached a couple black chicks and they ended up being Swedish Nigerians... I ditched my neighbor and the 2 girls we came with for 10 minutes to try and see what was going on with the Swedes.

One was lightskinned and one was dark chocolate and they had funny accents. Both were several inches taller than me. I got one girl's number cuz she found out I was Nigerian too and she for some reason loved that. The light skin one. Also when I first approached them and they said they were Swedish I greeted them with a "skol!" and they were hooked after that. They were asking if I spoke Swedish and I told them some other Swedish girls I had met downtown had taught me.

I caught the dark skin one walking by the bar and I had to leave and ended up kissing her. First time I went in she shied away and the second time she kinda giggled and gave in and kissed me back. Then I dipped out cuz I had to wingman my neighbor and they wanted to go to a gay bar lol. Plus I got her number for whatsapp.

Then we went to the gaybar and hung out before coming home. Unfortunately the girls we rolled with left right away cuz they had work in the morning. Then he invited two more chicks over, one of which I'd already banged several times.

I then got too drunk and coked out and made an ass out of myself and blacked out and woke up in my room.

For some reason I've met quite a few Swedish chicks visiting Long Beach though I do know there's a somewhat popular English school for Europeans here in downtown. I've met Swedes, Danes, French, and Swiss chicks down here on random occassions. Also didn't know there were so many black/mixed Swedes.

I got my first Swedish flag in L.A.
A mixed Black Swedish Au pair for a celebrity family on the Westside.

What have people here found are the best times to hit up the 3rd street promenade? I've tried going maybe a half dozen times, in the middle of the afternoon I see basically no girls. Evening is a little better, but frequent repeats as a lot of them are students coming to and from SMC (usually these are the ones with the non-touristy backpacks). I've struggled massively to find the sort of volume I've ever been able to find in any sort of European city (this was during the Spring, maybe it's better during the summer). I seem to recall some podcast where Tom Torero describes this place as "daygame Mecca" but I just haven't found this to be the case.

Plus a few of the girls have told me other guys have come up to them, and I have seen other daygamers on occasion.