Post: #1

Here's a list of gender gap percentages of 100 cities in the United States. I figured it might help target which cities to visit or hit up on Plenty Of Fish, badoo or whatever. Of course, it doesn't say if the women are the prime 18-35 age, or 65-80, but still... Better to start with a city with more women, than not.

Most to Least Gender Gap in Large Cities
Rank Metro Gender gap
1 McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX 28.5% more women
2 El Paso, TX 27.3% more women
3 Memphis, TN-MS-AR 17.5% more women
4 Bethesda-Gaithersburg-Frederick, MD 16.9% more women
5 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA 16.7% more men
6 Birmingham-Hoover, AL 16.3% more women
7 New York-White Plains-Wayne, NY-NJ 15.9% more women
8 Baltimore-Towson, MD 15.7% more women
9 Little Rock-North Little Rock, AR 15.6% more women
10 Columbia, SC 15.5% more women
11 New Orleans-Metairie-Kenner, LA 15.1% more women
12 Richmond, VA 14.7% more women
13 Detroit-Livonia-Dearborn, MI 14.5% more women
14 Philadelphia, PA 14.1% more women
15 San Antonio, TX 13.7% more women
16 Baton Rouge, LA 13.2% more women
17 Newark-Union, NJ-PA 13.2% more women
18 Las Vegas-Paradise, NV 13.1% more men
19 San Francisco-San Mateo-Redwood City, CA 12.3% more men
20 Springfield, MA 11.6% more women
21 Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH 11.6% more women
22 New Haven-Milford, CT 11.5% more women
23 Camden, NJ 11.5% more women
24 Essex County, MA 11.4% more women
25 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV 11.3% more women
26 St. Louis, MO-IL 10.9% more women
27 Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT 10.8% more women
28 Dayton, OH 10.8% more women
29 Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC 10.4% more women
30 Wilmington, DE-MD-NJ 10.4% more women
31 Providence-New Bedford-Fall River, RI-MA 10.2% more women
32 Honolulu, HI 10.1% more men
33 Miami-Miami Beach-Kendall, FL 9.6% more women
34 Austin-Round Rock, TX 9.6% more men
35 Greensboro-High Point, NC 9.1% more women
36 Gary, IN 9.1% more women
37 Louisville-Jefferson County, KY-IN 8.9% more women
38 Pittsburgh, PA 8.7% more women
39 Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY 8.7% more women
40 Chicago-Naperville-Joliet, IL 8.7% more women
41 Stockton, CA 8.6% more women
42 Boston-Quincy, MA 8.6% more women
43 Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI 8.6% more women
44 Syracuse, NY 8.5% more women
45 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA 8.5% more women
46 Sacramento--Arden-Arcade--Roseville, CA 8.1% more women
47 Knoxville, TN 8.1% more women
48 Rochester, NY 8.1% more women
49 Tulsa, OK 8.0% more women
50 Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro, TN 7.9% more women
51 Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN 7.9% more women
52 Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT 7.9% more women
53 Jacksonville, FL 7.8% more women
54 Akron, OH 7.7% more women
55 Toledo, OH 7.6% more women
56 Indianapolis-Carmel, IN 7.6% more women
57 Oakland-Fremont-Hayward, CA 7.4% more women
58 Edison, NJ 7.3% more women
59 Nassau-Suffolk, NY 7.2% more women
60 Kansas City, MO-KS 7.1% more women
61 Sarasota-Bradenton-Venice, FL 7.0% more women
62 Albuquerque, NM 6.8% more women
63 Oklahoma City, OK 6.5% more women
64 Greenville, SC 6.4% more women
65 Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, NC-SC 6.4% more women
66 Seattle-Bellevue-Everett, WA 6.4% more men
67 Cambridge-Newton-Framingham, MA 6.3% more women
68 Youngstown-Warren-Boardman, OH-PA 6.2% more women
69 Raleigh-Cary, NC 6.1% more women
70 San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA 5.9% more men
71 Salt Lake City, UT 5.5% more men
72 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL 5.1% more women
73 Albany-Schenectady-Troy, NY 5.0% more women
74 Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX 4.9% more women
75 Columbus, OH 4.9% more women
76 Fresno, CA 4.6% more women
77 Dallas-Plano-Irving, TX 4.2% more women
78 Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown, NY 4.2% more men
79 West Palm Beach-Boca Raton-Boynton Beach, FL 4.1% more women
80 Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ 3.9% more men
81 Omaha-Council Bluffs, NE-IA 3.7% more women
82 Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton, OR-WA 3.4% more men
83 Denver-Aurora, CO 3.3% more men
84 Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach-Deerfield , FL 3.2% more women
85 Tucson, AZ 3.1% more women
86 Lake County-Kenosha County, IL-WI 3.0% more women
87 Worcester, MA 2.7% more women
88 Bakersfield, CA 2.7% more women
89 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA 2.5% more women
90 Wichita, KS 2.5% more men
91 Santa Ana-Anaheim-Irvine, CA 2.5% more men
92 Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 2.5% more women
93 Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton, PA-NJ 2.4% more women
94 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Glendale, CA 2.1% more women
95 Grand Rapids-Wyoming, MI 1.1% more men
96 Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA 0.8% more men
97 Orlando-Kissimmee, FL 0.4% more men
98 Tacoma, WA 0.4% more men
99 Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI 0.3% more women
100 Warren-Troy-Farmington Hills, MI 0.1% more men

Post: #2

Super useful. i always felt like Sacramento and Chicago were better than most America holes.

8% surplus! That eliminates most of the morbidly obese from the Lard Equation.

My speculation is that a significant amount of the surrounding farmland Northern European blondies in the Midwest go to these cities instead of the more prohibitively expensive NY, LA, and SFO.

Post: #3

It's funny you mention Sacramento... I don't go there very often,, (Hard to justify the drive when you live 12 miles from San Francisco) but I have noticed some of the prettiest black women in Sacramento that I've seen in a while! I was kinda amazed actually. I do not see this concentration of attractive black women in Oakland, or even in Los Angeles. There is a mall near Old Town Sacramento, where I saw a light skinned, Lisa Bonet looking sista about once every 5 minutes, literally. I actually started to think that maybe creole Hurricane Katrina victims were relocated from New Orleans to Sacramanto, it's that many of them!

It's sad to see the San francisco ratio, but I can't say I'm surprised. For being such a liberal city, the women have a somewhat, I don't know if the word is stuck up, but just low approchability vibe going on. I figure that's because of the skewed male to female ratio. And to be honest, "open arms, love everybody" Berkeley is worse!

Post: #4

I think this list is just a measure of old ladies in a given area. Within the demographic of 18-25, men vastly outnumber women everywhere.

Post: #5

(09-12-2012 03:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I think this list is just a measure of old ladies in a given area. Within the demographic of 18-25, men vastly outnumber women everywhere.

Is that a real stat? Meaning a high percentage of men croak before 18, or lots more men are born?

I think there are some positive things happening SOMEWHERE demographically, the above-mentioned one-- where Midwestern lookers want to go to a 2nd/3rd tier city and go to Minneapolis or Chicago instead of NY/LA.

I've had cute women in small cities tell me they find NY intimidating.

Post: #6

(09-12-2012 03:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I think this list is just a measure of old ladies in a given area. Within the demographic of 18-25, men vastly outnumber women everywhere.

It can't be that bad. According to the the census bureau there are 32.6 million men age 15-29 in America and 31.9 million women.

Post: #7

If it's a big city, then it really doesn't matter because you're going to be encountering a lot of girls all the time. It's just that at the same time, you'll be encountering a lot of guys too.

Post: #8

I was hoping that wasn't the case, but yeah, El Paso does seem too good to be true!

(09-12-2012 03:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I think this list is just a measure of old ladies in a given area. Within the demographic of 18-25, men vastly outnumber women everywhere.

Post: #9

(09-12-2012 04:03 PM)j r Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 03:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I think this list is just a measure of old ladies in a given area. Within the demographic of 18-25, men vastly outnumber women everywhere.

It can't be that bad. According to the the census bureau there are 32.6 million men age 15-29 in America and 31.9 million women.

Where can that information be found?

Post: #10

Without age range, this data is absolutely meaningless. It could be in the older 50+ cohort.

Post: #11

I've been to el paso twice but only briefly. I have a hard time believing there are that many more women. Whats the explanation? Not many huge universities there to draw that kind of m/f ratio. After the murders in juarez did half of the female population move to el paso? I doubt most of these women are in the 18-35 bracket. Perhaps in the 65 and up?

San antonio looks suspect as well 13% more women? That city is home to several military bases which would more likely cause a cock surplus in the 18-35 demographic.

Post: #12

Here's the map you guys want. Includes age range adjustment. Change to 20-29 and watch ALL of the US turn blue. lol.

http://www.xoxosoma.com/singles/

Post: #13

(09-12-2012 07:03 PM)Theodet Wrote:  Here's the map you guys want. Includes age range adjustment. Change to 20-29 and watch ALL of the US turn blue. lol.

http://www.xoxosoma.com/singles/

That's from 2006. I'm positive it's much much worse since then, as birthrates have been falling for a long time now.

Post: #14

Here's a census report with all the relevant information: http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/brief...0br-03.pdf

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see any evidence for growing sex ration (the number of males per 100 females).

Post: #15

(09-12-2012 09:34 PM)j r Wrote:  Here's a census report with all the relevant information: http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/brief...0br-03.pdf

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see any evidence for growing sex ration (the number of males per 100 females).

Men outnumber women by over half a million in the 20-29 age group. Men outnumber women in every age group until you reach the age 40 mark.

Since men mainly go for women in their 20's and below, and since women prefer a much smaller group of men (the alphas) between the ages of 18-40 (roughly speaking), what you have is a situation where tens of thousands of extra men in every city in America are chasing a limited supply of single young females.


Hence:

Massive sausage-fests in the online dating world.
Massive sausage-fests in your average bar or club.
Massive sausage-fests pretty much everywhere you go in America.



If you think about it, it's extremely counter-intuitive for a man to hold the abundance mentality, since in reality men are in abundance, not women.

However, for alphas, women are in abundance, as alphas are scarce.

Post: #16

5 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA 16.7% more men

this is where I live. these numbers feel accurate. I try not to think about it.

I feel like stringer bell in that season of the wire where he says "I got no muscle, and I got no product".

Post: #17

(09-12-2012 10:58 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 09:34 PM)j r Wrote:  Here's a census report with all the relevant information: http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/brief...0br-03.pdf

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see any evidence for growing sex ration (the number of males per 100 females).

Men outnumber women by over half a million in the 20-29 age group. Men outnumber women in every age group until you reach the age 40 mark.

Since men mainly go for women in their 20's and below, and since women prefer a much smaller group of men (the alphas) between the ages of 18-40 (roughly speaking), what you have is a situation where tens of thousands of extra men in every city in America are chasing a limited supply of single young females.


Hence:

Massive sausage-fests in the online dating world.
Massive sausage-fests in your average bar or club.
Massive sausage-fests pretty much everywhere you go in America.



If you think about it, it's extremely counter-intuitive for a man to hold the abundance mentality, since in reality men are in abundance, not women.

However, for alphas, women are in abundance, as alphas are scarce.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. More men are born, but more men die at all ages. The sex ratio for younger people is skewed towards more men, until the increased death rate kicks in around middle age and then there's more women from there up. These are normal population characteristics.

I thought you were saying that this a new phenomenon being driven by some glut in the male population. Men outnumber women by 500,000 in the 20-29 age range out of a total of 43 million. Men make up 50.72% of the population in that age range. If you walked into a bar with 100 people in it and 51 were men, you wouldn't exactly call that a sausage fest. Plus, it's going to vary widely by location. Go to Alaska, the Dakotas, Silicon Valley, and you'll find dudes on top of dudes. In the cities, however, the ratio is skewed towards more females.

If the world appears to be a sausage-fest, it's because of where women are, how fat many of them have become, and what it takes to attract them; it's not because of any abnormal oversupply of men.

By the way, this is all for the United States. Things may be different in other countries.

Post: #18

Do other countries have an oversupply of women compared to men?

I would imagine some war torn countries have more women than men, due to so many men being killed in battle?

Post: #19

I hate to keep referencing Russia, but I don't know of anywhere else where the demographics are as good - maybe Ukraine? I think Russian women deal with something similar to the situation of American men.

FTA:

"Moscow alone boasts more than 3 million single women between the ages of 25 and 50, out of a population of 11.1 million (that’s three times the number of single Muscovite men)"

DailyBeast Article

FTA:

"Still, the numbers of single men and women in Russia are roughly equal: 17.6 million single ladies to 17.2 million single lads. 'That means that Russian women simply have no interest in marrying Russian men,' says Irina Zhuravleva, the head of Russia’s census department at the Federal Statistics Service. A single woman herself, Zhuravleva says she “never had any interest in marrying a drunk, to later suffer the pain of divorce and splitting [of] real estate.”

I heard that despite Russia having a higher divorce rate than the U.S., that most marriages are initiated by the man there, again making it the opposite of the U.S.

So don't be a drunk, have a decent job, don't beat your woman and you are a catch in Russia. Something to think about.

Post: #20

(09-12-2012 07:03 PM)Theodet Wrote:  Here's the map you guys want. Includes age range adjustment. Change to 20-29 and watch ALL of the US turn blue. lol.

http://www.xoxosoma.com/singles/

Wow, that is shockingly bad.

Post: #21

(09-13-2012 01:40 PM)j r Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 10:58 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 09:34 PM)j r Wrote:  Here's a census report with all the relevant information: http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/brief...0br-03.pdf

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see any evidence for growing sex ration (the number of males per 100 females).

Men outnumber women by over half a million in the 20-29 age group. Men outnumber women in every age group until you reach the age 40 mark.

Since men mainly go for women in their 20's and below, and since women prefer a much smaller group of men (the alphas) between the ages of 18-40 (roughly speaking), what you have is a situation where tens of thousands of extra men in every city in America are chasing a limited supply of single young females.


Hence:

Massive sausage-fests in the online dating world.
Massive sausage-fests in your average bar or club.
Massive sausage-fests pretty much everywhere you go in America.



If you think about it, it's extremely counter-intuitive for a man to hold the abundance mentality, since in reality men are in abundance, not women.

However, for alphas, women are in abundance, as alphas are scarce.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. More men are born, but more men die at all ages. The sex ratio for younger people is skewed towards more men, until the increased death rate kicks in around middle age and then there's more women from there up. These are normal population characteristics.

I thought you were saying that this a new phenomenon being driven by some glut in the male population. Men outnumber women by 500,000 in the 20-29 age range out of a total of 43 million. Men make up 50.72% of the population in that age range. If you walked into a bar with 100 people in it and 51 were men, you wouldn't exactly call that a sausage fest. Plus, it's going to vary widely by location. Go to Alaska, the Dakotas, Silicon Valley, and you'll find dudes on top of dudes. In the cities, however, the ratio is skewed towards more females.

If the world appears to be a sausage-fest, it's because of where women are, how fat many of them have become, and what it takes to attract them; it's not because of any abnormal oversupply of men.

By the way, this is all for the United States. Things may be different in other countries.

You aren't counting the men in the age range of 30-39 who will be chasing the same women in the 20-29 age group that's already majority male.

That's why, in reality, you walk into a bar and see 60-65% male to female ratio's (on a good night).

Post: #22

(09-13-2012 04:15 PM)Samseau Wrote:  You aren't counting the men in the age range of 30-39 who will be chasing the same women in the 20-29 age group that's already majority male.

That's why, in reality, you walk into a bar and see 60-65% male to female ratio's (on a good night).

OK, I get what you're saying.

I do think it all depends on where you're going. In DC, if I go out to some meat market bar on Friday night, there's tons of dudes. If I go to a restaurant for happy hour after work on a Wednesday, there's barely a man in sight.

Post: #23

(09-13-2012 04:49 PM)j r Wrote:  

(09-13-2012 04:15 PM)Samseau Wrote:  You aren't counting the men in the age range of 30-39 who will be chasing the same women in the 20-29 age group that's already majority male.

That's why, in reality, you walk into a bar and see 60-65% male to female ratio's (on a good night).

OK, I get what you're saying.

I do think it all depends on where you're going. In DC, if I go out to some meat market bar on Friday night, there's tons of dudes. If I go to a restaurant for happy hour after work on a Wednesday, there's barely a man in sight.

Oh, no doubt. That's why venue selection and niche selection is so important. For example, at my dance locations the ratio's are usually 10 females for every 9 males, on average. Often times much better.

But that doesn't change the fact of the backdrop which we operate: Sausage land. This is why females are entitled, this is why they flake, this is why there are no second dates, etc.

Post: #24

j r,

I'm surprised a guy living in the DC area would think the USA has an almost even ratio on M to F. Almost everywhere in DC is a sausage party.

(09-13-2012 04:49 PM)j r Wrote:  OK, I get what you're saying.

I do think it all depends on where you're going. In DC, if I go out to some meat market bar on Friday night, there's tons of dudes. If I go to a restaurant for happy hour after work on a Wednesday, there's barely a man in sight.

Most happy hours in the DC area are sausagefests too. From downtown DC to all the way in Reston. DC happy hours are not a pussy paradise.