Post: #1

Typically what's happening is I meet women I want to have sex with as soon as possible. There is a possibility of a relationship happening down the road but at the moment all i see and want is sex.

Once in a great while, I meet a girl who I want to marry after 5 min of knowing her. She just feels right, do you know the feeling? I don't even feel like I need to push hard for sex - don't want to screw up! I want to take it slow and perhaps have a traditional dating experience,something I can tell about my grand children when I am old.

What have your experiences have been like? Was escalating for sex too soon killed your chances with a girl who you were genuinely interested in?
I asked my girlfriend when I wasn't single if being too sexual too fast did more harm than good- she said she wished I didn't push for sex as soon as I did but she forgave me. She said I liked you from the minute I met you and your only fault was you were a typical guy. ( sex hungry)

I just met an amazing girl. I don't want to screw up. The problem she is leaving USA to live in Europe. I have a week to make anything happen. I also don't know if she sees me in a sexual way, we just had a conversation in a social gathering and exchanged phone numbers. I'll be seeing her soon.

P.S. USA dating scene.

Post: #2

Don't change your frame for her, meaning you don't have to follow her to Europe, you don't have to follow anyone actually, especially when you just exchanged numbers.
I'd say go for a quick lay.

Post: #3

Recognizable feeling: you met the girl and think she's the one. Nice, but not the best way to build connection. Now I view sex as a condition to go further. It's my golden standard, learned it from a friend player, who is now living with the girl he fucked upon first date.

You don have much time to build connection, but if she really is into you she will show it in some way, like sex. If not, she will write and call you for a few months until she bangs a new guy (which is natural) around her, and things will get colder (unless she never had a guy before)

By the way, if you want we'll keep her warm from you here in Europe.

Good luck

Post: #4

Push for the lay. She won't say it but she'll respect you for it in the long run (I think there is a Roosh post on this). Of course if you're new to this you can overescalate too quick, so then the issue is calibration, but it's worth erring on the side of confidence anyway. The beauty of game is that if she doesn't like you pushing too fast then there is always another girl who will and who will have that "connection" with you. That said you're placing too much value on this "connection" with her anyway, making you outcome dependent and she will pick up on this. Go find another girl who "just feels right" and you'll automatically calm down a bit with this one and do better.

Post: #5

You will very rarely be punished for going for the lay. The ones who do punish you are almost exclusively prudes or have repented their whorish ways and are now actively lashing out at anything she recognizes as the kind of behavior that will cause her to backside.

Post: #6

Thinking someone is "the one" after knowing them for 5-10 minutes is an illusion that your mind is playing on you. Resist it.

Post: #7

(08-25-2012 12:41 AM)Aureo Wrote:  Don't change your frame for her, meaning you don't have to follow her to Europe, you don't have to follow anyone actually, especially when you just exchanged numbers.
I'd say go for a quick lay.

What he said.

Push hard for the lay over this next week. Make sex - not courting her - the goal, and in the meantime search for other girls. You can't feasibly be in any sort of relationship with her so do everything possible to avoid emotional attachment.

Post: #8

Here's something I posted a little while ago:

Quote:It's quite astonishing what I've realized after becoming a part of this board and really paying attention to what others with more experience than I have contributed either to this forum or through various blogs and writings. Basically go for sex all the time. When you are out, go for sex the same night. When you are on a date, go for sex the same night. I guess this doesn't apply so much during day game and potentially in various other cultures outside America, but here for dates and night time you are never punished for pushing the envelope.

As Roosh said, the creep always prevails over the alpha.

As Tuthmosis said quoting Talleyrand, "Women sometimes forgive a man who presses an opportunity, but never a man who misses one."
--Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord

Post: #9

I don't understand the OPs thinking at all.

This girl is going to live in Europe in a week and he's worried about harming his chances for an LTR with her?

What chance for an LTR? She'll be hopping on one Euro-cock after another.

And always push for sex

Post: #10

(08-25-2012 08:07 AM)Vicious Wrote:  You will very rarely be punished for going for the lay. The ones who do punish you are almost exclusively prudes or have repented their whorish ways and are now actively lashing out at anything she recognizes as the kind of behavior that will cause her to backside.

What is that saying... women will for forgive a man for taking an opportunity, but never for missing one? Something like that. It really applies here. This one you'd better leave it all on the road, dude. If she's moving to Europe you'd better work her over until she kicks you in the nuts, and maybe you shouldn't even give up then.

Post: #11

Thanks guys. I feel shallow and narrow minded sometimes to always go for the sex. Kind of desperate too. The other factor is I always see and hear solid couples who were friends first, then they went on a date..etc. I on the other hand don't last with one girl longer than a month.
With this one I will try to get laid this weekend.
After being in this game for 10+ years it doesn't get easier when you meet a good one. My plan is to switch to Facebook game when she leaves and see if we can meet again in Europe.

Post: #12

I do and I'll explain why. First it's absolutely necessary to push as far as you can with girls nowadays cause chances are the date or the approach is the only chance you'll have. Many times I've had a great date, gotten a makeout or more and never heard from the girl ever again. I don't know why this is the case but it is. An exception is when you foster such a great connection with her that she sticks around.

The other reason is I don't want to portray myself to be something that I'm not. If a girl is looking for a long term relationship that leads to marriage I'm not going to keep going on dates with her and act boyfriend like, etc. I've made that mistake before and it turns into be a gigantic mess a few months down the road.

By being aggressive off the bat, she knows what she is in for(a short term fling) and she can either agree or not go for it. If it scares away a more traditonal girl so be it, and it's for the better anyway.

Post: #13

yep, and it's a matter of course for substandard online girls. they can fuck me on the same night or they can fuck off.

Post: #14

This thread reminds me of one I started a little over two years ago, it's funny reading back on it how much my "game knowledge" has grown since then... Lot's of good insights, I recommend you check it out:

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Post: #15

(08-25-2012 01:56 PM)Wayout Wrote:  I on the other hand don't last with one girl longer than a month.

Wait, how is that bad?