(10-28-2015 02:08 AM)LA Savage Wrote:  But I never seem to understand why girls actively try to cockblock a guy who is confident enough to approach a cute girl. I know they don't think logically but damn these bitches were yelling at her from a distance to comeback as if she was a pet or something. If a girl tries to pick up on one of my fellow friends I don't go out of my way to cockblock her. I move to the side and let their interaction play out uninterrupted.

Here's why:

Intrasexual competition among women. In this case, (I presume) the other two were friends of her so overt aggression might put a strain on their friendship - I think that they may have not even realized why where they distracting her female friend from being chatted up. This behaviour could be described in terms of them both playing a proverbial dog in the manger.

"Bench Game"

I've been experimenting with ways of striking up better quality chats, and I'm seeing a pattern - at least on campus - that when I'm able to side up with a girl while she's at a table or bench, I'm able to build some decent rapport. Not to knock the Yad-Stop, cuz certainly I've been swinging that style as well, but this plucking her right off the vine is most assuredly iron-hard, and I'll just speak for myself by saying how too many of my approaches through this style sound pretty awful, or she's eager to scurry away to class or whatever. Of course, my performance is not sufficiently weak as to entirely sway me from the "street game" style. Sometimes she's coming right on by and I've got to just leap at it. Still, recently I've been trying to wrangle the logistics into my favor more . . .

Today I was milling through the crowd at one of those student health fairs, with the tents an' all that shit. Off on the sidelines, seated on a bench, was this Hispanic girl, dressed in baggy black jeans and a tank, with a hoodie over it. As I neared, the one attribute of hers that I zeroed in on immediately was her deep cleavage, amply displayed in her top. Although her breasts were slung up, they still seemed to splay out a bit, pouring into the cups of her thick bra.

I sat right down at the edge of the bench, looked off to the side for a moment before asking here what the event was all about. From there we launched into a really great conversation, stemming primarily from observations of the fair, and the ol' "what's your major" blah-blah, but ultimately, we were extracting topics at will. All the while, alternating our respective gazes from scanning the crowd to exchanging bouts of deep eye contact. A snuck a few looks down her top. Truly an exhibit of floppy excellence. And hell, the rest of what was showing wasn't bad either.

What was funny was how, at one instance, a girl walked by, who's dress was riding up under her backpack. The two of us got a chuckle out of how, even as she strolled amidst the heavy crowd, it looked like no one was gonna tip her off to it. Rather uproariously though, minutes later, another woman walks by in the opposite direction, with her skirt riding up under her backpack. A new fashion trend? Upon pointing this out, we both teased each other on how our discussing it must be somehow conjuring up the happenin's. I made a crack about how she should watch out next time she wears a dress to class.

After maybe a 20-minute chat, she excused herself to go to the lab she had mentioned about initially, and I took the number. I threw in a dash of the yes-ladder, as I asked if she'd be excited to hear from me, to which she replied warmly, and, taking a gamble, topped it off with assuming the sale by quipping how "maybe a passionate romance will result". To this she replied, "We'll see how it goes."

I messaged a while later, and she replied hours later, so I'll let her swing for a while . . .

I haven't approached in a while, but today was good. The skills are always there.

There was this girl with very long blonde hair and blue eyes (yay) that looked really busy. I had previously written her off as not being in a mood to chat. It was Bethesda Fountain (which I'll describe in detail in my upcoming Central Park day game guide). Recently these Asian massage people moved into the area peddling their services and they are very aggressive. You really need to give them the evil eye and basically tell them to fuck off for them not to bother you.

They bothered her a lot, hands all over her. No, I didn't white knight, but given how nice she was being I knew that she was in a mood for a chat.

I walked up to her on the terrace and got an immediate positive response.

It was a long walk but I rambled well. I think I left her with the impression that I was a high roller based on my stories in politics, planning for business, real estate, and telling her about her own profession (modeling, as I sort of expected). Also of note was that I had zero fucks given about anything I said. I boldly told about the Dubai stories we've all heard here and it actually got a positive response.

She mentioned meeting a lot of undesirables, but that I was different. Heh.

At the end of the interaction I asked for her # but she said to add her on Facebook because "she doesn't give her # out because guys bombard it." I said only desperate guys do that and that with me she gets one text and that's it. I don't bother with anything more. She gave me her # immediately.

I also have this on record, but since we were moving I'm not sure about the audio quality. I'll have to see.

At any rate, this was a needed warmup and shows that you don't lose your skills. I think some guys pressure themselves and worry to approach if they haven't in a while because they're afraid of "losing" something, but it doesn't seem to be true. It's somewhat instinctual.

Of note was that I tried to go with Roosh's model in Day Bang but I approached direct because she was on the move. I think my dominating frame worked to my advantage at any rate.

If we were living in another world I'd say that I'm fairly confident in this one, but in the age of five second female attention spans, you never know for sure. I'm just happy at how I played it.

The art center of the uni had an exhibition for Halloween. I saw a very cute freckled redhead at one of the stands. Asked her what she was presenting then took a photo of her. Told her because I was into photography I considered myself an artist. I guess not a good move because it meant I wanted to impress her. Told her about a concept photo I had in mind and that she would be good as a model for it. She asked what kinds of photos I took.
Then I don't know why I forgot about the photo (I was genuinely interested in using her as a model) and asked her what her major was. Turned out she dug dinosaurs up! Then I went for my usual bait.

How long have you been here?
2 years
I've been here just for a few months.
Well, that's nice.
[Fuck me!]

It seems one of my main problems is that I don't project the "male-female polarity" i.e. am not confident and aloof enough.

After a month without a hot girl, I decided to do a hundred approaches. I went out in the late afternoon on Sunday to my town's winery zone. I had a glass of wine and between walking around and drinking, I got in 5 useless approaches, no blowouts but nothing promising either. Then I walked into a bar and noticed a very pretty women a little younger than me (she is 35) sitting by herself working on her Ipad. I made some semi witty comment about working in a bar. She was English, super friendly and on a month long trip. So, we started talking about traveling. I pulled her to another bar and hung out with her for a few hours. By the end we were very touchy-feely. I did not try to make out with her or go for the SNL. I told her that on Monday I was going to take her on a date.

We met up Monday for a drink. Then I took her to a funky little taco place. We brought a few light things back to my place. After eating we went from make out to sex within 5 minutes. She stayed over and I invited her to stay. She ended up staying for 3 nights. We had an awesome time and amazing sex together. She just invited me to meet her up the coast this weekend. I probably will as she's very pretty and super cool. Its.amazing how a simple approach can turn into a short term relationship. Its also amazing how approaching can break what was starting to seem like the beginning of a dry spell (1.5 weeks without sex and a month since being with a 7+).

^ Post of the day.

Made up your mind to take action. Chose a great set up that worked in your favor. Blasted through the 'warm ups'. Found a good situation and took advantage. Kept the tension and her on the hook. Could have probably banged at the first meet though...you never know if you will see a girl again.

As I do more daygame, I've realized, and this is just my theory, that it is around the 10-12 girl mark when you get a girl that bites. It's a hypothesis I need to test more as I've only experienced it about 2-3 times but it helps with mentally staying focused and not calling it a day after the 5th rejection.

Next step (for me personally) - find ways to rapidly escalate during the day without using alcohol as a lubricant.

Mess O if you ever come down to Los Angeles hit me up. I'll show you how to escalate with girls real quick and cut through all the BS chit chat. Also pm me and I can send you a few videos on how I approach on campus which is very direct.

Also LAX that theory is song there is no magical number when girls start to bite. Sometimes you will hit on the first 1 or 2 girls and get amazing results. It's all about how confident and experienced you are. You might be getting lucky on the 10th or 12th girl because it's probably taking you a while to warm up or get a good momentum going. Eventually you need to get to a point where you are not counting how many girls you approached. You just approach cute girls because it's ingrained into your lifestyle not because you have to make a quota.

Also LAX do you happen to live in LA as well. If so lets link up sometime and I will test your hypothesis and show you otherwise.

Train Station:

A stop away from gym, I see a cute indian/middle eastern chick step of the train and sent on one of the benches on the platform. I join her.

w-"hey, we actually kinda match"

she checks me out, looks at me and agrees. I have her attention. I don't have much to say so I make small talk about possibly seeing her before. Guessed what school she attended and the convo died off, as she wasn't putting into the convo. She went back to reading text on her phone. She actually resembled Mia Khalifa, but with natural titties. She even had the black frames.

When the train came again, we sat in different areas, but I saw her look my way when I got up to leave at the next stop.



Gym approaches..

After finishing my training I go to the studio, grab some gloves, and throw a few punches at the bag.

A tall blonde 7 walks in, and heads in my direction. We exchange eye contact.

w-"Good morning"
her-"Good afternoon, why is everyone saying its morning?"
w-"I don't know, feels early."
her-"yea"
w-"are you a dancer?"

She stands there with her hands on her hips and I check her out.

her-"do I look like a dancer?"
w-"you do actually"

she tells me she's not, smiles, grabs her mat and weights and gets to her workout. We wrapped around the same times and I got her name but didn't pull the trigger and ask for her number. (outcome dependency is back).

Outside of the studio I run into a cute asian/white chick at the fountain.

w-"you got it, ladies first"

she smiles and fills up her bottle. I check her out and open.

w-"you must be an athlete, like...do you even lift brah?"

we have a laugh and she tells me that she's actually a former cheerleader. My game isn't sharp and I mention something about my training session. She told me that she comes in the night time usually (ioi?) and that its usually what she prefers. We part after talking about our workouts and I didn't go for the number.

Had a fun little approach today, my first day in Wroclaw, walking through some park and see 2 girls practising handstands. I go over and challenge them to a competition of who can hold it the longest knowing I'd lose (only trained gymnastics starting this year). Once I swiftly lose I ramble about how I knew I would and that I just wanted to have abit of fun, talk a bit more show them pictures of the extreme sports I do to get some DHV in there for not being better than them at hand balance.

One of them asks for my number and told me she will let me know next they are there to practise with them. Texted her an hour later and we have a date scheduled for tomorrow (lol practise yeah right).

Enjoying reading some of these posts. I live in Dublin, from Northern Ireland and I'm a rookie at daygame, I'm much better with alcohol.
But I've lost my fuckbuddy in the last while, a stripper in the one strip-club in town, a Brazilian girl. This was a great time, a 9, but now I've got nothing and no leads. I realise I need to chat up girls during the day; I'm saving money to travel the Carribbean and Central/South Amierca so I have to cut down on drinking. Another fwb situation is what I need.
Anyway, a few fumbles from the last while:

At lunch during work went to the park to read. Walk past two girls alternating between speaking Italian and English. Remark upon this. They are both Italian and have lived here for ten years. Language students. We talk about Italy, why their families moved to Ireland etc. Only one of them is good-looking.

I say I have to get back to work, we should do this again sometime. The non-attractive one says we come here all the time at lunch, so it was her that expressed more interest. Unfortunately after all the good work I didn't ask the pretty one for her number rationalising that I might indeed see them in the park aain.

Coming back on the train from the dry-cleaners and buying a second-hand iphone off a fat Irish goth chick. I had drunkenly lost my phone on a day and night of drinking 2 euro pints after having passed out in the toilets, so yeah, again the drinking has gotta stop. A few stops from home a true stunner sits opposite me, I was totally unprepared. There are loads of Brazilians in Ireland studying English. I was sure she was Brazilian. So I ask.."Como vai?" (how are you). "Ahh, you speak Portuguese?!" I fuck things up at this point, I put it down to mesmerisation at her beauty. Start rambling saying I thought she looked Italian or Brazilian but I guessed Brazilian, was I right? blah blah blah, instead of playing it more cool. I stay on the train past my stop and we continue talking anyway, about Brazil, the kids she au pairs for etc. I get off in town thinking she was gonna get off the same stop. She stays on. The train doors stay open for a while. I'm kicking myself, then I say fuck it! Back on and sit opposite her again.
"Actually I'm getting off at Connolly now, meeting my friend there instead (lie)" I then ask if she is getting off there too and she is. She quickly leaves when we get to Connolly and says bye. Not wanting to let one of the hottest girls I've ever even encountered get away I follow. She's on the phone. I ask her if I can interrupt her conversation. I was gonna ask for the number, suggest grabbing a drink sometime etc. but she said, "sorry I have to go I'm meeting my boyfriend now!"

I reeled from this one and enjoyed the sweats it gave me. Makes you feel alive.

A Sunday. Dry spell going on too long, something has to be done. Sitting in the apartment like a horny badger. Filled up a hipflask in the evening and ventured into town. At station I see a hot blonde. Go around the corner and slam some of my booze. She's sitting on the seats outside. I ask if they are dry. They aren't; she's sitting on newspaper that was there when she got there. Very nicely of her she takes some of the paper and lays it on a seat for me. We talk about the Ireland Argentina rugby as I spot this featured on the paper. I had watched the game during the day which Ireland lost. We talked about basketball as Lithuania are good at it and continued talking onto the train. She works in a hotel near me. I've worked in a hotel before as a student so we chat about this work. She mentions people having to work long hours to support family and I say having kids is a terrible idea. Her response is to show me pics of her kids on her phone! My stop is near and I bail, I don't want no single mamma!

Venture into the touristy temple bar, bought a coke in the bar and liquored it up in the bathroom. Joked with a hot German girl about how she was the aunt of the guys at her table. They looked awfully young, I think they were all 18. She was enjoying the banter and joking along but I ejected. I somehow felt awkward at the prospect of getting her number in front of these gawking kids. I need to lose my inner awkward bastard and be more ballsy. Outside I chat to two Italian women in their early thirties. Spent a while guessing each others ages. They guess 25 for me, I say bingo. I'm actually 23. They are only on a short visit. Short haired less attractive one asks how we party in Ireland. I say we like to have private parties and suggest we all go party in mine. They glanced at each other, definitely considering it but in the end they called it a night. They were sisters. The better looking one kept pointing to her ring finger on which there was no ring, joking that she wouldn't go, that she's married.

After they called it a night I headed for the last train. Sat down next to a pretty girl at the station. Remarked at the next train taking so long to come, 20mins or something. She was a Czech girl, another au pair. We chatted for the whole time and the journey back. She was getting off at the same spot as me. Bingo! Chance at starting something up with a bird that lives beside me. I suggest as we get on the train geting a drink at the local pub sometime. "Sure, why not!" she says.
Outside my apartment she puts her number in my phone. I open my arms for a hug and she goes in for it. I then steal a kiss. I too eagerly go for more and she says "calm down". I just say OK and tell her that I'll text her anyway. She doesn't respond. She never responded to my text either.

These approaches are from the last month or so. Last Sunday rolled solo to the 2e pint club. This pulls in a serious amount of punters on a Sunday, including tons of Brazilians cos of this drink deal. Slammed some rum and went in with my fitted shirt chinos and boots combo. Drank and smoked myself into a buzz. Approached a group of Braz girls but they were leaving soon. Then another Braz whose stupid tattoo of a rose on her shoulder I told her I liked. Took her to the dance floor to dance with her a bit. Weak enough vibes so I let in fizzle out. Soon after spotted another Braz girl in leather pants and a tiny top, low cut and also cut above her belly button. I spotted a guy try to chat o her as she was walking and she brushed him off. I still considered she might be an easy pull so I went after her and said hi. We started making out and grinding almost immediately. This went on all night. She rolled up a joint in the club and I stood on watch for bouncers as she was grinding it up and the might notice. I get her outside at the end of the night. She was looking for her drunk friend the whole time to make sure she was OK but I still very nearly managed to bail her into a rickshaw taxi and home, lying that I'd leave her home in the morning. She eventually found her mate and we all went to the friend's house. They went inside and wouldn't let me in, not even for the piss I lied about needing. Took her number, texted her and got no reply. Talked with taxi man about Brazilian girls. He told me he rode his way around Brazil back in the day with a samba band. I need to get to Brazil.

I joined a salsa and bachata class, mostly for dancing skills to be used on my trip. Maybe I can meet girls through this; Lord knows I'm currently the horniest bastard about. Mixed my rum from the hip flask in the bar with water after my first class last Thursday and chatted to a Brazilian and Austrian girl. Only the Austrian was good-looking. When we went outside to leave, said to her we should get a drink sometime. Boyfriend. Oh well.

House party last night (Halloween), people from my old law school class. Spent too much time talking to people I've actively avoided since college, don't even know why I went. Drank a bottle and a half of wine and a few beers, talked to girls, no idea how the conversations went. Woke up on a couch with the party still going on around me. My good mate was gone, said he coulnd't find me so got picked up by his woman. I was feeling groggy and had to get out of there; taxi home to a bacon sandwich.

In line at the store, a pretty, young, asian girl gets in line behind me.. She puts a pack of gum on the conveyor belt..

me: where is that gum?
her: oh just over there
me: let me study the package here
her: ya its good
me: im looking for a new sugar free gum
her: most gum is sugar free
me: ya they dont use sugar but they use something worse than sugar
her: lol ya seriously right
me: i used to like ginger chews but they arent really very healthy either.
her: ohh ginger haa
me: if i was smart i would kust make my own gum
her: make your own haha
me: doesnt gum come from a plant?
her: umm does it? im not sure
me: i used to have a girlfriend that make moisturizer, toothpaste, soap, everything from clean natural ingredients
her: oh wow

She was really smiling and giving me good eye contact.

I pay for my stuff.

I look back at her and she is slim, toned, and radiant, with a nice butt.

I wait near the exit.

1 minute later, she came walking..

me: my name is gio
her: hey im angela
me: i was thinking maybe we should hang out sometime
her: oh umm

She took a good look at me.

me: im 31, if thats what your wondering
her: oh no, i mean, ummm
me: if you want to, if you dont its cool
her: im 18 haha
me: oh my gosh its like when taylor swift was dating john mayer
her: hahaha your funny
me: thanks, ya its sort of a taboo thing maybe in here america but i dont know, it was nice talking to you
her: ya you too umm well
me: if u want just call me so i have ur number. ill text u later
her: well maybe ill just see u around
me: ya maybe
her: ill see u soon

Fuck she was really thinking about it.

I bet I'm the first middle aged man who has approached her like that. I believe that she was attracted to me.

Who knows?

Next!

--

I spot a sexy, athletic white girl walking ahead of me. I speed up and get alongside..

She was holding some poi balls.

me: what are those things?
her: poi
me: poi
her: ya poi
me: like poison
her: exactly but without the s-o-n
me: what do u do with them?
her: i light them on fire and play with them
me: really?
her: ya
me: like a hawaiian airlines commercial
her: exactly ya hahaha
me: wow ive never seen them in person
her: pretty cool huh
me: facinating
her: haha
me: where are you from?
her: santa monica
me: great town welcome to san francisco
her: thanks

We had a nice little chat. Sweet girl

me: hey thanks for the poi introduction
her: your welcome
me: we should get coffee sometime
her: i dont drink coffee but we could do tea
me: even better

We have been texting for the last few days

We'll see.

--

Walking away from the mall, I see a beautiful little black girl, hard body, fat ass, pretty face..

She is holding a bag of food and walking with a friend. I can see the food is starting to fall out of her bag..

I walk passed them one step..

me: hey be careful with your food
her: huh?
me: its spilling, dont let it fall out
her: oh shoot thanks
me: yup

We bullshit about food and shopping for a minute.

I turn to her friend:

me: can i ask your friend a question
her: um sure

I turn to the one I like:

me: do u date guys like me?
her: oh i would but im only 17
me: doh!

her friend: ya u gotta wait one more year

Next!

--

Mall parking lot, I am changing my shirt, I like to take my shirt off and just see how girls react.. (I'm thin but fit, semi 6 pack)

I see a fine, sexy, young asian walking my way.. She looks my way.. I tighten my abs.. Lol!

She walks past me, I whistle to get her attention.

She turns, I motion for her to come back towards me, she stops and gets on the phone, she is just stalling I think, she just wants to see what I'm going to do..

I walk over to her as I am putting on a crisp white shirt..

me: hey whats up?
her: oh not much just waiting for my friend
me: where u from?
her: here
me: oh cool, i wanted to come say hi and see if you wanna text me ur name and number
her: oh my gosh, im flattered but i have a

Next!

--

I walk past a shoe store and see a beautiful, young white girl working..

I go back and pretend to shop for shoes..

her: how ya doing?
me: great you?
her: ok
me: im sure your ready to go home and get some rest
her: haha another few hours
me: hang in there, eat some berries
her: berries ya sounds good (we were near a farmers market)

We talked about boots, san francisco culture, food, neighborhoods, etc.

I looked at some boots, said goodbye and left.

20 minutes later, I came back..

her: hey
me: hey
her: i thought you didnt see anything u liked
me: well, actually, i wanted to ask you if u wanted to go out for a drink sometime
her: oh
me: if u want to
her: ya hang on

She wrote down her number.

She never responded.

--

Walking off campus, I see a spectacular body in yoga pants, cinnamon skin, long hair, exotic and sexy.. I can't tell the ethnicity, I just see the body from behind.

I walk alongside and we both stop at a red light.. She is dangerously close to the passing cars..


me: be careful sweetie, dont get hit by a car
her: oh thank you
me: you must not be from around here
her: huh?
me: where are you from?
her: brazil
me: oh tudu bem?
her: u speak portugese
me: just a little
her: awesome where did u learn?
me: i was in rio a few years ago
her: ok im from soa paoulo
me: the new york of brazil
her: haha yes

Blah, blah, blah..We walk and talk for 2 blocks. A very sweet and sexy 18yo girl.

me: nice meeting u
her: you too
me: wanna talk again sometime
her: oh sorry

Next!

--

University library, I spot a gorgeous light skinned black girl, what a fucking body! Round, fat ass, tight, slim waist line, flawless caramel skin, pretty face.

I just walk right up to her as she is walking.

me: excuse me
her: ya
me: u look great, i love ur style
her: oh thank you
me: are u from new york?
her: haha no do i look like im from new york?
me: i think so, lower manhattan maybe
her: oh well im actually from the north bay
me: how long u been down here?
her: oh just about a month
me: welcome do u have any questions, im an expert
her: um well, my bf lives here so i think im good

Next!

I'm getting stronger. I used to get nervous, now, I mostly just operate on instinct.

I sense another breakthrough coming soon!

*****

(10-23-2015 11:35 PM)Druber Wrote:  Gio. Would love to see all that in action! Got any vids or audio of your approaches?

No, sorry. Maybe in the future.

(10-24-2015 11:58 AM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  How's your text game? I'm curious if its witty and entertaining or purely logistical and for making plans.

A bit of both.

When I was just starting out, I texted strictly for logistics.

I learned that girls I meet during the day often require a little playful texting before they will commit to a date. I guess they want to see a bit more of my personality.

I learned its usually good to build a little rapport and connection, if you can. If you can't, be careful with over texting!

(11-01-2015 11:09 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I spot a sexy, athletic white girl walking ahead of me. I speed up and get alongside..

She was holding some poi balls.

[i]me: what are those things?
her: poi
me: poi
her: ya poi
me: like poison
her: exactly but without the s-o-n
me: what do u do with them?
her: i light them on fire and play with them

Weren't you tempted to answer: Wanna trade your poi for my balls?

How would an American girl react to this kind of joke...?

Been doing some decent plays this week. Actually, I've been swinging from one end of the spectrum to the other as far as directness, given logistics an' all. As I mentioned earlier, I've really been trying to conjure up some better quality chats, so I've been pulling the bench game more often, but as one can expect, instances arise by where the scope of the approach is constrained to simply siding up with her, rustling up a quick chat, and zooming-in on the close . . .

On campus once more, I spot a Hispanic from quite a distance, and upon catching up with her, found she has long curly hair, a beautifully tapered waist, and one of the roundest asses the place has to offer. I buzz after her for a little, rightly guessing that she's headed into the library - and this time I was gonna go in after her - but she actually stopped at an elevator, so I was able to trap her in there for an ultra-quick chat, in the midst of which she lost track of what floor she was aimin' to go for. I speedily number-closed as she couldn't wait to scamper off, and I tossed on my "maybe a passionate romance will result" type of shit, to which she seemed to hardly believe I actually said. Sent one text later on - no response.

Later that hour, I honed in on what looked like a dancer, and so, catching up with her, guessed if she was a runner or a dancer, to which she asserted to both, but kind of double-backed and said dancer. I told her one would probably need to run to dance, but not dance to run, resulting in the first of many giggles I would get out of her throughout a good chat that went on for a while once I coaxed her to take a pause from walking. By now I must've approached every goddamn dancer in the place. She seemed rather interested, and energetic overall. I seem to gravitate towards dancers, I reckon. Given the caliber of directness of the approach from the start, I figured on turning up the spice a degree more once I opted to finish up the play, throwing down my "I've never dated a dancer before, so when do we start?" shit, to which she seemed warm to, handing off the number. Sent one text later on - no response.

Did a few others of varying quality, the "sit-down" variations being some of the most extensive, and interestingly, I'm finding that if relationship status is to be disclosed at all, it's laid out either in the very 1st sentence, literally, or quite a ways into the exchange.

After all that, at which time I was figurin' on ending the campus hunt for the day, I see waaaay off in the distance what I was quite confident was that Indian chick I had sat down with a while back, who made that fucked up comment about my age. My golden eye proved true as it was her, and let me say that this was the 2nd time I not only crossed paths with this bitch, but tried to fucking re-engage her, resulting in her brazenly ignoring me. With her large, floppy tits swinging around under her loose sweater, coupled with her wide hips swaying underneath a denim skirt that barely covered her thighs, I lamely caved in to an unhealthful stubbornness by giving her any regard at all. With an air of haughtiness, she simply walked past me, my words fading into the same wind that whirled about her skirt, the high-cut slit of which she grappled with to keep herself covered. I find it hysterical when they blatantly parade it around, but still try to maintain some semblance of modesty at the same time. And this was one of those girls who struts it as such every time.

It left a sour taste on the day, as it really made me think of how tolerating women's shitty behavior - and even trying to renegotiate it - is still a considerable problem I have. My original blunder with this chick was by not calling her out on her nasty attitude, and then walking on. And so, I compounded that by not only once, but twice trying to talk to her again.

What a long and diverse road it is to learn and build experience. I'm getting a lot of these bad practices minimized, but I guess the flip side to that is how the stupid errors become all the more glaring when they come about.

^^ Not sure I'm feeling the "direct comment about romance that might ensue" vibe!

Direct is with your eyes, your initial observations, and getting her info... you don't have to explain to her what you Hope Will Happen so literally!

Before asking for the number it's nice to get a verbal date in like "I'd like to see you again" -- and let her respond "me too!" before getting the digits.

Whatever -- the point is, don't say "... who knows, maybe a romance will happen!" or "when can we start?" -- it belies TOO much excitement like you don't usually do this...

Grabbed 18-20 year old college girl's number on the subway Halloween night using my 'silent acquisition' maneuver:

She took a seat next to me. Picked up on a few IOIs (legs crossed with dangling foot facing me, some glances with smiles, etc.)
After a few minutes I just hand my phone to her on the 'add contact' screen while holding a subtle smirk.
She chuckled and seemed surprised. She put her number in along with first name. Based on her reaction, my intuition told me the interaction probably wouldn't go anywhere- but I persevered.
I sent her a joking text immediately without saying a word ('hey you stole my costume idea').
She responded verbally and asked me for my name (good sign).
I then began speaking and bantering with her for about 10 minutes.
Got off at my stop and texted her the following afternoon with some callback humor. She responded in a few minutes.
FaceTimed last night and got her laughing and qualifying a bit. She was going crazy trying to guess my age- never gave her a straight answer. They love this shit.
Under 21 and lives home. Shit logistics.
Seems eager and more comfortable now. She's Hispanic with an accent- and refreshingly doesn't behave like the typical entitled American chick in her age bracket.

(11-04-2015 12:26 PM)456 Wrote:  ^^ Not sure I'm feeling the "direct comment about romance that might ensue" vibe!

Direct is with your eyes, your initial observations, and getting her info... you don't have to explain to her what you Hope Will Happen so literally!

Before asking for the number it's nice to get a verbal date in like "I'd like to see you again" -- and let her respond "me too!" before getting the digits.

Whatever -- the point is, don't say "... who knows, maybe a romance will happen!" or "when can we start?" -- it belies TOO much excitement like you don't usually do this...

I agree with your sentiment. Just figured on tossing that one around again.

I did some approaches in a shopping mall in Wroclaw today, couple direct and couple indirect and was getting pretty piss poor responses. Lack of English speaking people that didn't, or pretended not to, understand what I was saying. Didn't close any since conversations were quite lack luster so I got tired of walking round in circles, went home, grabbed my tablet and set off to Starbucks to do some reading (studying polish).

Chat to a girl in line, once again shit English ended it short. Decent conversation with one of the Barristers but I always take that as part of their job so don't really consider it of any value.

Sit down in a spot with open places to the left and right of me. Opened 2 spanish chicks (i know spanish) who sat next to me, turned out they were "together", I got tired of speaking spanish and knew it was going nowhere carried on reading.

Opened another girl who sat next to me with a simple "excuse me do you speak english" expecting to ask some bullshit question on helping me with something in Polish but she didn't speak english so whatever.

Third girl wasn't that attractive but I'm bored at this point and can see her studying programming on her laptop, I ask her to look over my stuff while I go to the toilet (Asked if she spoke english first she said yes) and when I come back ask her what programming language she is learning. We talk for 5 minutes before she eventually says "I should really continue working, I got a lot to do it was nice meeting you". Pffffff whatever.

Finally something actually decent looking sits next to me, she looks bored and I can see a street show going on outside, I open with "that street show is pretty interesting, does this happen often in poland?". She bites, says she doesnt know that shes actually from Hungary and is an Erasmus student, but makes a few observations on it which is enough to continue conversation. Drop baits, play the game, find out shes 21 yrs old and talk to her for 30 minutes, she asks me for my name and says she has to go, gives me her business card and tells me to call her, I didn't even need to close.

What was also funny is the last girl I opened, who was still sat next to me on the other side and who had soooo much work to do actually got up and left 5 minutes into my conversation with this girl (probably stayed for a total of like 10-15 mins lmao, felt like I stuck it to her pretty good when a chick obviously hotter than her was into me).

Then on the way out a French guy (in his 40's) told me "that was perfect, you did everything so perfectly, very impressed", I laugh, say I do it pretty often so Im used to it, we talk for another 15 minutes about game and he breaks down my conversation with her, I could swear the dude reads this forum. He's apparently there quite a lot maybe I'll ask him next time, literally he just reiterates all the observations the forum makes on the quality of women in Europe.

So yeah if youre that guy and you're reading this let me know that was a pretty funny conversation

Been in the game for probably just over 6 months now and as of late, I’ve been feeling massive AA. In the first 5 months, I just approached like a maniac (day or night game) and didn’t think of the consequences. Now, I am more strategic in my approaches but am also feeling more intense AA. Has anyone found this happening to them?

Today, I was buying lunch and waiting in a queue. This really cute latin American girl walks up and waits behind me in the queue. Definitely an 8 face and body. Her perfume was really sweet smelling so after she buys her coffee, I walk up and go:

Me: “Excuse me, I just had to ask, what sort of perfume are you wearing?”

She opens with a smile (IOI) and explains how it’s from Brazil or something and she’s from Brazil.

Lately, I’d been listening to Mystery's audiobook and have been listing IOIs to watch out for when I game.

I was nervous as hell (massive AA) so I wanted out of the set quick. After a bit more banter, I go:

Me: “It was nice meeting you” (puts out hand to shake)

Her: “You too” (shakes hand). “What was your name?” (another IOI).

Me: “studmuffin” (and I leave)

Within seconds of leaving, I am kicking myself because I realised the IOI and the massive potential for more reference experience with this girl.

Hoping this experience will get me to continuing approaching more day game again.

Heavily made-up petite Asian in tight jeans and lowcut tank . . .

Referencing the boot cast she was dragging around,

me: What happened to you?
her: I dropped a plate at the gym.
me: Whoa, like a 25lb?
her: A 45.
me: What were you doing with one of those in the first place?
her: Squatting.
me: Oh yeah? Where you at on the squat?
her: Umm, like, a 45 and a 10 on each side.
me: That's be around 155. Wow, you're so strong. But guess you'll have to train around that one for a while. Gotta stay off it.
her: Yeah, So where do you train?
me: Got a lil home gym.
her: Nice. Well, good meeting you.

She scampers off toward the parking lot, but I snag her once more.

me: So, you're into the big lifts, huh? We should train sometime. I'm a very attentive spotter. You shouldn't need to grapple those plates on your own . . .

She asked where I was at, and seemed familiar with the region. Got number, texted later - flatlined. Oh well.

Awesome approach today, if I don't smash I'm a moron. It's Polish independence day so everywhere is closed aside from chain stores n shit, couldn't go to the gym so decide to go to starbucks and study polish for abit. It's busy as fuck, there's a space next to a cute blonde girl available but other than that everywhere is taken.

Me: "Excuse me is this seat taken?"
Her: "Yes sorry my friend is sitting here shes just ordering"
Me: "Ok cool no problem"

There's one other place to sit but it sucks to do work on, laptop barely fit on the table. A minute later a couple of girls sat on the other side of the blonde I just opened leave, I take the opportunity to re-engage and sit next to her on the other side.

Me: "Ok now this seat is definitely not take"
Her: "Haha yeah that ones free"
Me: "Yeah it was quite depressing over there, no desk space whatsoever for my laptop"
Her: "Oh are you a student here?
Me: "No no I work, I'm just trying to learn Polish, is that an American accent? You aren't Polish?"
Her: "I am actually but I lived in the states all my life, my parents are Polish"
Me: "Ah so fluent in both languages I take it? Must be cool considering how hard the language is to learn"
Her: "Yes and yeah it's like the hardest language in the world to learn according to Google"

This sort of back and fourth continues for some time, her friend comes back, I introduce myself briefly to her, we go up and order some Coffee together since it was her turn to go and get her drink, come back, more talking, neither of us really arsed to continue working (she was studying for a med exam). However the Wi-Fi wasn't working on my laptop so I decided I best eject anyway rather than stay and let the conversation die out while I do actual work.

Me: "Right I'm gonna head off otherwise niether of us are going to get anything done, it was nice meeting you though, what's your number we will hangout sometime?" *hand her my phone*
Her: "Sure that sounds cool, where do you live anyway?"
Me: "just around the corner on that street there" *point in the streets direction*
Her: "Oh is it xxx I live on that street too"
Me: "No kidding, where abouts?"
Her: "Opposite xxx"
Me: "Wait...me too, is it block xxx"
Her: "Omg yes!!! Wait what number apartment?"
Me: "xx you?"
Her: "xx we are on the floor below you"

Banter continues based on this whole scenario but seriously WTTTTFFFFFF I'M HER NEIGHBOR ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!

That's like the best logistics ever considering im only here for a little while. I've been round hers today once already but due to work I couldn't stay long, had to answer some emails and do some engineering for clients. If I don't make anything of this lord strike me down now.

(11-01-2015 11:09 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I walk past a shoe store and see a beautiful, young white girl working..

I go back and pretend to shop for shoes..

her: how ya doing?
me: great you?
her: ok
me: im sure your ready to go home and get some rest
her: haha another few hours
me: hang in there, eat some berries
her: berries ya sounds good (we were near a farmers market)

We talked about boots, san francisco culture, food, neighborhoods, etc.

I looked at some boots, said goodbye and left.

20 minutes later, I came back..

her: hey
me: hey
her: i thought you didnt see anything u liked
me: well, actually, i wanted to ask you if u wanted to go out for a drink sometime
her: oh
me: if u want to
her: ya hang on

She wrote down her number.

She never responded.

Gio, with girls like the one in the shoe store, I generally ask them what kind of shoes they like, what styles and why - tell them I'm getting a pair for my 'sister' if they ask - but they'll often tell you the kinds that make them feel sexy without knowing it - CFM pumps, stilettos, knee-high boots - then ask them for the digits.

Picking up shopgirls can be hard work though!

University, I see a sexy asian, cute body, thin, feminine, pretty face.. She has a chinese tiger tattoo on her shoulder.

I walk passed her and comment on her tat..

me: hey cool tattoo
her: oh thank you
me: where did u get it done?
her: some place out in the valley
me: it looks like a lyle tuttle piece (famous tattoo artist)
her: i wish
me: are u a tiger in chinese astrology?
her: no but i do love the tiger
me: im a dragon
her: really?
me: yup the best
her: haha
me: are you from around here?
her: well, ya, i am now
me: my name is gio
her: hey im vivian

We talked for another minute.

me: hey do u wanna go out for a drink or something sometime?
her: oh um no thanks gio

Next!

--

In line at the store, a pretty, young filapina gets in line behind me, yoga pants, thin, cute, feminine..

She places a large papaya on the conveyor belt.

me: ooh i love papaya
her: ha ya me too
me: how do you cut it?

Blah, blah, blah.

We exit the store together.

me: well, thanks for the tips
her: youre welcome
me: should we go out for a drink sometime?
her: oh well thats ok, but thanks

Next!

--

At the gym, a stunning, young girl has everyone's attention.. A young, latina in yoga pants and a little tank top, beautiful body, incredible ass.

She is working out right next to me but I ignore her.

Awhile later, I notice her leaving, I would regret not approaching here so I follow her outside and find her getting into her car..

me: you look great, do u do any modeling?
her: oh thank you, no i dont
me: just instagram type stuff?
her: nah not even that, i dont like that stuff

This girl was surprisingly sweet and approachable like many beautiful girl often are.

me: ya i dont do social media either but i feel like i should because maybe im missing out
her: missing out on what?
me: well, pretty girls for example, if i want to talk to a pretty girl, i have to approach her in public
her: well, thats better than doing it online
me: ya maybe your right
her: i dont think you need it
me: haha my name is gio
her: im elena
me: no way thats my grandmas name lol
her: haha really

She was really a pleasant young girl.

me: do u wanna go out for a drink sometime?
her: you know, im sort of with someone but it was nice talking with you

Next!

--

At starbucks, I see a beautiful white girl wiping down the counter with a napkin..

me: thank you for cleaning this place
her: oh haha, i spilled it so i thought id better clean it
me: can you come over and clean my kitchen?
her: haha
me: just kidding im a good cleaner too
her: girls like clean kitchens
me: haha your funny, thats so true, what kind of coffee did u get?
her: oh just a basic tea
me: i love tea, ive been trying a chocolate tea
her: hmmm sounds good
me: ya its tea season
her: this one isnt very sweet which i like, sugar is so toxic for me
me: ya sugar is nasty
her: you know its more addictive than cocaine
me: i think thats true, i tried cocaine once and i didnt like it but sugar i love
her: lol

We chatted for a minute.

me: hey wanna go out for a drink sometime?
her: oh thanks but im with someone

Next!

--

University Campus, I see a pretty, young latina..

She is wearing a superwoman sweatshirt and soccer shorts.

me: do u play soccer superwoman?
her: i used to back in high school
me: what school?
her: oakhill
me: u can play intramurals here
her: ya i thought about it
me: its fun, a lot of people have a few beers ans then go play, u know what i mean
her: ya i might look into that
me: and there are indoor leagues out by the beach
her: indoor sounds fun in the winter time
me: just watch out for the boys who think its the world cup
her: lol right

We walked and talked for a minute.

me: hey wanna talk again sometime
her: ya sure

Got her number. Texted a few hours later. Been casually texting ever since.

--

University campus, I see a sexy white girl walking towards me.. She has on a nice blue over coat..

me: I like that blue
her: oh thanks
me: we call that "cookie monster blue"
her: lol
me: u know the cookie monster?
her: yes of course, ive never heard it described like that, thats so funny
me: ya isnt that a great one
her: haha
me: are you done with school for the day?
her: yup
me: nice time for the weekend
her: yes
me: any plans?
her: oh i think im just gonna relax
me: thats a great plan

We chatted for a minute.

me: hey wanna get a drink sometime and talk fashion and pychology
her: um ya sure

Got her number.

Will try to set a date soon.

--

College campus, I spot a gorgeous, young, white girl in a short dress with a fit body and a pretty face..

I walk passed her as she is turning towards me..

me: hey i love your, ummm, what is that? turquoise!
her: yes exactly turquoise
me: are you an aquarius?
her: no im a gemini
me: oh shit!!!
her: haha what?!
me: you guys are a little intense
her: omg seriously u know
me: hahaha
her: haha its true

She walked into a her dorm.

I walked passed the dorm.

I turned around and entered her dorm, she was standing at the counter buying a drink.

me: hey ms gemini
her: hey
me: i wanted to ask you if you wanted to go out for a drink sometime
her: oh my gosh, im flattered but i kind if have a bf

Next!

--

University campus, I see a beautiful middle eastern girl, she looks brazilian but I can tell that she is moroccan or algerian or something.. beautiful face, slim caramel body, stylish and sexy..

I follow her onto a staircase, she holds the door open for me..

me: thank you
her: sure

We take a few steps away from the stairs.

me: excuse me
her: yes
me: what nationality are you?
her: oh im palestinian
me: oh i thought u were brazilian
her: do i look brazilian
me: ya a little
her: hehe
me: youre a hard one to guess
her: really?
me: yup, i used to live in brazil, a lot of girls looked like you
her: wow

We chatted for a minute.

me: hey wanna go out for a drink sometime
her: um ya sure

Got her number.

She never responded.

Next!

--

University, I see a pretty black girl headed up the stairs, she quickly climbs three stories, Im right behind her when she exits..

me: hey youre like me u run up the stairs
her: haha yup if its only 3 stories i walk, 5 stories i take the elevator
me: you are like a cat
her: haha
me: hows school going?
her: pretty good i guess
me: what do u study
her: im just a freshman im undeclared
me: ya no rush just do your ge stuff
her: yup exactly
me: im gio
her: hey im tyra
me: like tyra banks
her: ya u know tyra banks?
me: ya i like americas next top model
her: omg u do
me: hell ya, the black girls always flirt with the white guys on that show
her: hahahaha

Got her number.

Been texting with her.

Nice work Gio

I'm interested to know what your hit rate is on banging the girls whose number you get Gio.
I know you're generally 15+ years old than these girls so I wonder if they get a bit hesitant once you're out on a date.