(09-30-2015 08:49 AM)_GQ_ Wrote:  Gio, do you not approach women in the 23-30 age range?

I do NOT approach women over the age of 19. (generally speaking)

(Occasionally, I will approach an older woman and sometimes that works out well, but, I prefer women who are 18 or 19 so that is who I approach.)

I commend your attitude, you're obviously not willing to settle for something that you view as less than ideal. An excellent mentality to have, not just in approaches but life in general.

Do you ever have anything more than an FWB/mini relationship situation with any if these young women?

(09-30-2015 11:54 AM)_GQ_ Wrote:  I commend your attitude, you're obviously not willing to settle for something that you view as less than ideal.

Thanks GQ!

I dont have to settle, so, I wont!

(at least, for now. In the future, things could change. but, in general, I HATE settling for things that I dont want!)

(09-30-2015 11:54 AM)_GQ_ Wrote:  Do you ever have anything more than an FWB/mini relationship situation with any if these young women?

Yes, I sometimes fall in love with these young girls. Sometimes, they fall in love with me. (this gets sticky when they catch me lying about my age, which often happens)

Other times, I never see them again.(maybe the were just experimenting with an older man?)

I've experienced the full gamut of reactions and responses.

It's always a pleasure to date 19 year old girls, for as long as it lasts..

(09-29-2015 09:04 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  The most beautiful girl I've ever approached . . . and one of my boldest to date overall.

On campus (yo Gio), I'm just strolling down a main way, pondering as to which avenue I'll go next to scope out the scene - around 10 approaches so far today - when off in the distance I see a girl in a long black dress walking perpendicular to the direction I'm headed. Initially I can't really make out any other features, but lemme tell ya, my exact thought process was, "Oo! Long dress! Investigate." If I were to arrange a pie chart of my approaches according to outfit, the biggest chunk would be devoted to skirts, dresses, and leggings. I see the optimal effect is has on the feminine form, and I jump.

I practically run over there, and I'm able to cut into her path head on, pulling a Krauser-style intro. I stammer out an opener about how I just noticed her there, and thought her dress had "nice lines" to it. She stops and seems very, very friendly. After I'm given sufficient time to settle into the play, I lean back on a railing while she stands a few feet away.

She's one of the most attractive girls I've ever seen - light, creamy-skinned Hispanic, shoulder-length dark brown/black hair, large dark eyes. The black, ankle-length dress is billowy, but still reveals full hips and a narrow waist. Held on with thin straps, the dress was rather lowcut, her plump and firm B-cup breasts predominantly visible.

We exchange questions regarding college major, hobbies like art and dancing, work. Quite a bit of territory. I tease her regarding the quirky faces she made while both pondering my questions, but also as she conjured up stuff to ask me. I was mindful as to how much of the time I was talking, giving her the chance to take the lead in the exchange.

I get the number pretty early into it, as she shows enthusiasm toward the idea of me sending her a link to my DeviantArt profile, but given how this looked like a genuinely hot iron, I opted to strike on, as the bulk of the conversation went on past the acquisition of the digits.

At one point, she turned to face another direction, revealing how her bra was ill-fitting. At the adjusted angle, one could see that the cups were much too large, so in addition to displaying her ample bust, her nipples were visible as well. Yep, opted to roll with the chat.

Could've been as much as 20 minutes before she started to hint at how she was about to head to the library to study, but had a good bit of time before her next class. After a little more back and forth chat and teasing, I let her go. She extends her hand, but I brush past it and get an embrace. Upon our breaking away from such, I tell her I feel like kissing her, to which she politely says "no". As she very gradually steps back, facing me all the while, I predict to her that maybe by our 3rd meeting we'll dance and then kiss, to which she said, "no, not gonna happen".

I happily waved her off, and resumed my relaxed lean on the railing without a care in the world, glancing over her form as she sauntered off.

Readers'll know by now that I adhere to indirect most of the time, and I follow "Day Bang" like a fuckin' Bible. I really try to maintain the congruency of an approach, be it primarily indirect or otherwise. Here, clearly, we have the latter region of the spectrum, and I ran it as such throughout. I felt that I needed to try something a little different as I work toward crafting my own style of game.

I personally prefer direct day approaches, I mean direct but without giving any compliments on her appearance. But I think you went too fast for the kiss for a day approach. One way to think about it (has been mentioned by Troy Francis and, I believe C Mc Queen as well) is that giving a girl so much validation and emotional stimulus (such as kissing) can give her enough satisfaction that she may not want more. So leaving the kiss for when she is in your nest is an option.

Yes, the last move was a gamble, and she may very have had her fill by then. At least throughout, though, I made no references to her physical beauty. Recently, I'd been down the "she seemed so into me, but I never heard from her again" road, I was prompted to ramp up the escalation on that first meet.

(10-01-2015 11:26 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(09-30-2015 11:54 AM)_GQ_ Wrote:  I commend your attitude, you're obviously not willing to settle for something that you view as less than ideal.

Thanks GQ!

I dont have to settle, so, I wont!

(at least, for now. In the future, things could change. but, in general, I HATE settling for things that I dont want!)

(09-30-2015 11:54 AM)_GQ_ Wrote:  Do you ever have anything more than an FWB/mini relationship situation with any if these young women?

Yes, I sometimes fall in love with these young girls. Sometimes, they fall in love with me. (this gets sticky when they catch me lying about my age, which often happens)

Other times, I never see them again.(maybe the were just experimenting with an older man?)

I've experienced the full gamut of reactions and responses.

It's always a pleasure to date 19 year old girls, for as long as it lasts..

If they find out your real age does it change their feelings to you? How to deal with? I know that mainatning relationship with much younger hot girl requires almost as much game as getting them.

I think D/s will help massively in terms of older men keeping younger women around...

(10-01-2015 01:27 PM)duedue Wrote:  

(09-29-2015 09:04 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  The most beautiful girl I've ever approached . . . and one of my boldest to date overall.

On campus (yo Gio), I'm just strolling down a main way, pondering as to which avenue I'll go next to scope out the scene - around 10 approaches so far today - when off in the distance I see a girl in a long black dress walking perpendicular to the direction I'm headed. Initially I can't really make out any other features, but lemme tell ya, my exact thought process was, "Oo! Long dress! Investigate." If I were to arrange a pie chart of my approaches according to outfit, the biggest chunk would be devoted to skirts, dresses, and leggings. I see the optimal effect is has on the feminine form, and I jump.

I practically run over there, and I'm able to cut into her path head on, pulling a Krauser-style intro. I stammer out an opener about how I just noticed her there, and thought her dress had "nice lines" to it. She stops and seems very, very friendly. After I'm given sufficient time to settle into the play, I lean back on a railing while she stands a few feet away.

She's one of the most attractive girls I've ever seen - light, creamy-skinned Hispanic, shoulder-length dark brown/black hair, large dark eyes. The black, ankle-length dress is billowy, but still reveals full hips and a narrow waist. Held on with thin straps, the dress was rather lowcut, her plump and firm B-cup breasts predominantly visible.

We exchange questions regarding college major, hobbies like art and dancing, work. Quite a bit of territory. I tease her regarding the quirky faces she made while both pondering my questions, but also as she conjured up stuff to ask me. I was mindful as to how much of the time I was talking, giving her the chance to take the lead in the exchange.

I get the number pretty early into it, as she shows enthusiasm toward the idea of me sending her a link to my DeviantArt profile, but given how this looked like a genuinely hot iron, I opted to strike on, as the bulk of the conversation went on past the acquisition of the digits.

At one point, she turned to face another direction, revealing how her bra was ill-fitting. At the adjusted angle, one could see that the cups were much too large, so in addition to displaying her ample bust, her nipples were visible as well. Yep, opted to roll with the chat.

Could've been as much as 20 minutes before she started to hint at how she was about to head to the library to study, but had a good bit of time before her next class. After a little more back and forth chat and teasing, I let her go. She extends her hand, but I brush past it and get an embrace. Upon our breaking away from such, I tell her I feel like kissing her, to which she politely says "no". As she very gradually steps back, facing me all the while, I predict to her that maybe by our 3rd meeting we'll dance and then kiss, to which she said, "no, not gonna happen".

I happily waved her off, and resumed my relaxed lean on the railing without a care in the world, glancing over her form as she sauntered off.

Readers'll know by now that I adhere to indirect most of the time, and I follow "Day Bang" like a fuckin' Bible. I really try to maintain the congruency of an approach, be it primarily indirect or otherwise. Here, clearly, we have the latter region of the spectrum, and I ran it as such throughout. I felt that I needed to try something a little different as I work toward crafting my own style of game.

I personally prefer direct day approaches, I mean direct but without giving any compliments on her appearance. But I think you went too fast for the kiss for a day approach. One way to think about it (has been mentioned by Troy Francis and, I believe C Mc Queen as well) is that giving a girl so much validation and emotional stimulus (such as kissing) can give her enough satisfaction that she may not want more. So leaving the kiss for when she is in your nest is an option.

In the best possible world, it should be a girl who needs to earn a kiss from the prince. Having said that, I think that the set up wasn't conducive for such a commotion.

First, it happened during daytime on campus, a far as I can tell. Girls put an utmost care to present themselves in "the right" light in social settings - her being seen kissing some random guy would jeopardy her social status from girls who'd see her social status trashed ("she's a slut, she's a bad person") through intrasexual competition. Hence, she wouldn't do it even if she wanted to do it (unless anonymity guaranteed - on holidays, in a park after dark, you get the picture).

Second, not understanding this unspoken rules suggested to her you were not as socially savvy as you seemed to be - after all, you've successfully approached and engaged her for extended period of time. The coda of your approach neither panned out nor was of any use, really. I wouldn't give a girl hug either. She needs to earn it as well. You can reward a girl with a hug after she kissed you (and it can be a good test if she's comfortable with a full body hug or not yet). Pushing for a hug first, then a kiss might be interpreted as being needy. Sprinkle the approach with scarcity principle. It's tough to pull it off but one way to do it would be to cut the interaction with a purposeful, yet a vague statement, such as "listen, I'd love to keep talking to you, I thought you were just a party chick but looks like there's more to you. I've got an important meeting to attend but I hope I can make an hour or two for us to meet next week. Deal?"

All in all, having done what you did, already takes an immense skills, so don't be too hard on yourself.

Push for a meet up with her. If she comes out never, ever talk with her again about the kiss moment or what she felt/thought about the approach. Let HER think about it and let me tell you something - somewhere between the first date and post-bang, their curiosity gets the best of them and she will die to find out what was so special about her you "went out of your way" to talk to her. I don't need to tell you a straightforward compliment won't earn you brownies.

(10-01-2015 01:35 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  Yes, the last move was a gamble, and she may very have had her fill by then. At least throughout, though, I made no references to her physical beauty. Recently, I'd been down the "she seemed so into me, but I never heard from her again" road, I was prompted to ramp up the escalation on that first meet.

During daytime I don't do much apart from a handshake and incidental touch. Your write ups show you've got sophisticated vocabulary up your tongue, so work with that - double entendres, sexual innuendos could help. Talking about yer major and yours, studies and the like is a safe bet but doesn't set you apart from the pack. It's just one more boring conversation with a somewhat bold guy. Don't be afraid to express your sexual interest, though tactfully, not vulgarly. Better keep the whole thing short-ish but electrifying so as to give her goosebumps all over her body and make her soak up her skimpy lace panties. Use, though sparingly, a few "bad" words throughout a tête-à-tête. Use your judgement if ribaldry is in situ or better to tread safely to the finish line.

1. Cutting half-way through her sentence with "you know, you've got very kissable lips. You must be proud of them, aren't you?" will show her that you see her sexually. Her reaction will be priceless.

2. Employ in a neutral fashion, sex related vocabulary. Say those words with properly impropriate tone. In response to what she said, whilst looking deep into her eyes, say "Girl, no fucking way, how come?" or "Yeah, this would feel so good, so nice...".

3. Be a jerkboy and test the waters, if you don't care about the outcome. When she says something, blatantly stare at her bust. Then look back into her eyes and say "Um... sorry, can you repeat? I was just staring at your boobs. They seem nice."

Great info, and very detailed. I'm very appreciative. I'll get right on it. Practice, practice, practice.

I approached a 7 at Starbucks today. She was headed out the door and I made sure I left at the same time.

Me: So, please tell me you are single. You are beautiful.
Her: (Huge smile) Thank you very much. I am actually seeing someone.
Me: I understand.....Have a great weekend.

(10-02-2015 03:40 PM)Floridian1 Wrote:  I approached a 7 at Starbucks today. She was headed out the door and I made sure I left at the same time.

Me: So, please tell me you are single. You are beautiful.
Her: (Huge smile) Thank you very much. I am actually seeing someone.
Me: I understand.....Have a great weekend.

Look, you are implicitly telling her "hey, I'm so excited talking to you and I'd like to just jump into your pants!" Your initial conversation should give the vibe that you are evaluating her. Also the boyfriend is likely a shit test.

(10-02-2015 07:35 AM)_GQ_ Wrote:  I think D/s will help massively in terms of older men keeping younger women around...

Whats is D/s?

(10-02-2015 03:40 PM)Floridian1 Wrote:  I approached a 7 at Starbucks today. She was headed out the door and I made sure I left at the same time.

Me: So, please tell me you are single. You are beautiful.
Her: (Huge smile) Thank you very much. I am actually seeing someone.
Me: I understand.....Have a great weekend.

(10-02-2015 05:30 PM)duedue Wrote:  

(10-02-2015 03:40 PM)Floridian1 Wrote:  I approached a 7 at Starbucks today. She was headed out the door and I made sure I left at the same time.

Me: So, please tell me you are single. You are beautiful.
Her: (Huge smile) Thank you very much. I am actually seeing someone.
Me: I understand.....Have a great weekend.

Look, you are implicitly telling her "hey, I'm so excited talking to you and I'd like to just jump into your pants!" Your initial conversation should give the vibe that you are evaluating her. Also the boyfriend is likely a shit test.

True, it should be the other way round. (Reproductive) fitness tests applied by female conspecifics should be skillfully ignored and your version of fitness test applied, for the best defense is to attack. What would Donald Trump do in such a situation? I don't know but a modicum of imagination should let us make a little play:

"I approached a 7 at Starbucks today. I was heading out the door and this girl happened to do the same.

Me: How was your Starbucks experience today?
Her: Um... just OK.
Me: I understand... you look kinda young... but let's meet and see what you've got going for you.
Her: (In her mind) "Why am I so wet?"

(10-02-2015 09:42 PM)duedue Wrote:  

(10-02-2015 07:35 AM)_GQ_ Wrote:  I think D/s will help massively in terms of older men keeping younger women around...

Whats is D/s?

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-27278.html

(10-03-2015 07:28 AM)ksbms Wrote:  

(10-02-2015 05:30 PM)duedue Wrote:  

(10-02-2015 03:40 PM)Floridian1 Wrote:  I approached a 7 at Starbucks today. She was headed out the door and I made sure I left at the same time.

Me: So, please tell me you are single. You are beautiful.
Her: (Huge smile) Thank you very much. I am actually seeing someone.
Me: I understand.....Have a great weekend.

Look, you are implicitly telling her "hey, I'm so excited talking to you and I'd like to just jump into your pants!" Your initial conversation should give the vibe that you are evaluating her. Also the boyfriend is likely a shit test.

True, it should be the other way round. (Reproductive) fitness tests applied by female conspecifics should be skillfully ignored and your version of fitness test applied, for the best defense is to attack. What would Donald Trump do in such a situation? I don't know but a modicum of imagination should let us make a little play:

"I approached a 7 at Starbucks today. I was heading out the door and this girl happened to do the same.

Me: How was your Starbucks experience today?
Her: Um... just OK.
Me: I understand... you look kinda young... but let's meet and see what you've got going for you.
Her: (In her mind) "Why am I so wet?"

I see what you are sayin

Around 6 approaches today - 2 snag numbers . . .

Just hangin' back on a rail along the main walkway at the University when a gorgeous (although heavily made-up) Hispanic with full breasts struts by. I use the "Is that a good phone?" opener, and off we go on a decent chat. I retain a fairly smooth composure, and after I snag the digits, I abruptly end the chat, practically shooing her away with an "Ok, bye." As she turns to leave, she asks if I'm just gonna keep waiting there, and I tell her that my class is right near where I'm at, so I jus' keep on whateverin' it. She txted back immediately, so we'll see.

That was the 1st play of the day, and so the last was on my way to the parking lot. I let this athletic-lookin' lady catch up to me, and I ask how the team is doin, to which she makes a downcast face, admitting to their 0-10 losing streak. She's the assistant coach, so we yak it up a bit about all that. We were parked almost next to each other, so after I get in mine, I lean out the window and call her over from her car, grabbing the number. Oddly though, in contrast to the real stunner, my dialogue was all stutters and stammers with the coach chick who looked fit, but ya know, averagey.

Hey, first post and its in the approach thread. Getting back into game after a long break.

I was in the store and saw a girl with her head down picking out spices. I say, "Forgive me, is that seasoning x?" She looks up and I notice: shes older than I thought and wearing earphones. She takes out the earphones and says "What do you want." I got an answer about the spice and didn't go on. Will do more approaches tomorrow.

(10-07-2015 03:26 PM)Oskar Wrote:  Hey, first post and its in the approach thread. Getting back into game after a long break.

I was in the store and saw a girl with her head down picking out spices. I say, "Forgive me, is that seasoning x?" She looks up and I notice: shes older than I thought and wearing earphones. She takes out the earphones and says "What do you want." I got an answer about the spice and didn't go on. Will do more approaches tomorrow.

Congrats on the approach. I would not say "forgive me" when opening. There's no need to apologize and it sounds weak.

If you like, running grocery store game, you can start with "excuse me" which I often do. Don't apologize for opening or talking to her.

Thanks for the tip.
Also, sometimes I open in Spanish, so I should use tú (informal) instead of usted (formal).

I'm having some very solid approaches this week with daygame with cute to hot girls. I feel like I'm going to get a lay soon. The main problem I'm seeing is I'm not qualifying these girls enough which is a must for shorter interactions where I just take a number.

Approach on Sunday

I approached a very cute girl with a Yoga mat on the subway. We started chatting and she had just come from meditation class. I actually wasn't even going her way but decide to take a detour to get on the train with her. Good conversation, she's into me and smiling. I pretend I'm going to a restaurant and have her walk me there. I grab her number at the end and she leaves.

I text her later, get one reply back, but after that she goes silent. I didn't qualify her enough IMO, and also I should have changed my plans for the restaurant to instead sitting down with her somewhere as she was carrying a bunch of stuff(the restaurant had a long line up so she wasn't down to wait with me). I feel like if she had been free(she had to go somewhere soon), then it would have been a easy instant date.

Approach Today in Library-

I'm waiting in line for coffee, and the girl next to me orders a double shot. I ask her if that isn't really strong, and then we get chatting. Cute Indian chick, she was asking me a ton of questions, and even remember my name from when I gave it to the Starbucks waiter. Unfortunately, at the end I didn't grab her number and she left. I should have just told her to wait up for a second and then made plans for later. Regardless, it was a pretty good approach in the middle of a long work session.

Approach today on street-

I went down to a very busy area of the city to do some approaches after my work session. The thing is when I work I get really in my head so I was struggling. I was out there for a pretty long time and I was having a ton of AA. I slowly do some approaches. On the 6th approach I hook a hot fairly tall girl(my height) who looked Eastern European. She was very into me, and I honestly was spitting some average game. I was tired, nervous, and had too much caffeine in me. Got the number, but no text back. Once again, I didn't really qualify her, or let her invest(I was talking way too much). I feel like if I was more in the zone it would have been a solid number.

Regardless, I'm heading in the right direction because I'm hooking some pretty hot girls during the day time. The last lay I had was a sexy mixed girl who I SDL'd from daygame, so its just a matter of time. It's pretty crazy seeing the amount of improvement I've had in my daygame this year, I'm a lot better at it then I used to be.

fuck it

Was feeling quite out of it today- too much caffeine. But, I didn't back down and made my mind up to approach.

Spent 10 min or so wandering around the store looking for a short girl. I strongly prefer them shorter than me.

Just my luck, girl asked me if I could hand her a plastic bag since she couldn't reach past someone. After handing it to her, I started to ramble about hot cocoa.

She heard my accent said we could switch to English if I prefered. I did. (Good or bad? Need to try it out both ways)

Due to my caffeine jitters, I kept blurting out what I had to say and couldn't think of another statement fast enough.

Next time: 1. less coffee, obviously. 2. S.l.o.w. it down. This will give me more time to think of what to say next.
3. Stop being concerned with content. No one gives a damn about cocoa vs coffee vs tea. More random bullshit is what I needed, and add in some conversation bait about places I've been to etc.
4. Don't smile so much. Filling in silence with smiles doesn't work.

I'm a bit out of practice, as I haven't done a day approach in a few weeks. It showed last night when I was out with Clint Barton, getdownonit, Dantes, and some other esteemed members.

Anyway after a long night and some alcohol and getting up quite late by my standards, I got my gear together for the afternoon and headed out. On my way to my destination I see a tremendously beautiful girl on the street. Best in October for sure. Her brown hair was shining in the sun, nice tits, nice long legs and ass, you get the picture.

Guys were ogling the shit out of her for blocks on end. I hesitated too long, but my horniness told me to do the approach so I did.

She was quite nice, but I stumbled. I'm out of practice. If I had more time I probably would have gotten it together but I basically did the approach almost at her destination. We parted very amicably though.

Still, I was trying to remember some of Roosh's tips in Day Bang, which I've been reading, so that was good. I dropped some bait about travel as she's another native like me. She nibbled a bit, but it was difficult for me to keep it going and time was short.

It was a mess, but a good mess. I got to practice some new mindsets and techniques on a very beautiful girl and I was the only guy out there man enough to do the approach, and it was a much-needed break in a glut.

So there.