(07-05-2015 04:46 PM)kbell Wrote:  Do you guys record these conversations? I don't how how you remember everything you and her say.

When I've posted in this thread, I just try to recall the conversation as best I can and get the vibe and gist down. It's not verbatim.

The abridged version would be nice.

I like approaching family groups, usually when I have that opportunity, it always goes well.

Yesterday a forum member took me to a hood here in DR to get his hair cut. While I was waiting for him, I saw this pretty girl (I usually just care about asses but lord this girl was super pretty) sitting down with her family. I told her ''hi'' from a distance, she replied ''hi''. I was staring hard at her, trying to tell her to come over so I could talk to her. She was avoiding eye contact with me but she would look at me when other girls were walking past to see if I was looking at them too.

I thought let me walk up to her whole family.

Me: ''Hi, do you guys know where I can buy water around here''

Her mum replied: ''We sell water here''

Me: ok Can i have one

Mum: Sure

Me: Is that your daughter?

Mum: yes she is

Me: What a beautiful girl she is, I was almost falling in love with her from over there (I know this may sound kinda corny for western game but here in DR in family atmospheres it tends to work well, also, it's not what you say, it's how you say it). The whole family started laughing.

Me: (I move my attention to her now), so what's your name:

Her: bla bla

Me: ok cool, I am pitt

I could tell she was a bit shy to talk in front of her family.

I walked back to where I was.

5 minutes after this little kid comes with a piece of paper and a number ''hey, she told me to give that to you''.

I guess having balls always pays off, always. I felt even more confident when I left there.

As I'm coming home today I see a hottie walking by herself who looked open to a chat. Usually I don't do street approaches as I tend to think, perhaps wrongly, that it's not socially intelligent, but some of my most memorable approaches have been on the street. Anyway, the girl had dyed blonde hair (a turn off to a lot of men but for some reason girls get away with it for me), a slim trim waist with a bustling ass, and perky probably C cup tits that jiggled invitingly. A bunch of old betas ogled her but didn't do shit.

My dick commands, and I'll obey.

I had to do it, I did it. She responded very well and took off her sunglasses - a good sign. We talked a bit and there wasn't anything I particularly did wrong on this one occasion except when I complimented her I should have gone for simple screening like Chris at GLL talks about. We had real estate in common (she's taking the same classes I took last year), but she's in a relationship now that I could tell she wasn't lying when she said it was serious.

I would have had this one under other circumstances. Alas, the world is the way it is. The important part was that it was a ballsy approach and I think I've been a bit too cautious lately. This could be a good step towards snapping back into top form.

(07-12-2015 04:00 PM)Libertas Wrote:  I should have gone for simple screening like Chris at GLL talks about. .

Can you explain how this works..?

How do you "screen"?

What are some examples of "screening"?

What type of questions should I ask in order to "screen a girl?

Thanks Libertas!

P.S. Got any links to GLL where I can read more about this?

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A few recent approaches..

At the Mall:

I see a thin and pretty white girl, blond hair, tight jeans..

She is wearing a San Francisco Giants t-shirt. Her little bag is unzipped.

I time my steps so that we arrive at the escalator at the same time..

me: hey your bag is open
her: oh thanks
me: ya zip that up
her: ha got it
me: I like that old fashioned giants jersey, the black jerseys were so cool
her: oh thank you
me: are you a new yorker?
her: oh no, why?
me: you just seem like a new york girl
her: nope

We exited the escalator, she kept walking.

Next!

**

At the Mall:

I see a pretty light skinned black girl with a great body walking ahead of me. She seems lost.

me: hey are you lost?
her: no im just looking for one of those signs that lists all the stores
me: oh i think theres one right there
her: ok

We walk in the same direction.

me: what store were u looking for?
her: im not sure, i want to see what they have?
me: where are you from?
her: washington dc
me: oh cool, how u liking san francisco

We talk for a minute.

me: hey um, im thinking that maybe we should talk again sometime
her: oh
me: ya maybe get coffee or something, if youre interested.
her: sorry im not available

Next!

**

At the Mall:

I see a hot little latina working in a store, yoga pants, beautiful body.

I walk by her as she is folding clothes.. She drops a shirt..

me: hey dont make a mess
her: huh? i'm not
me: i know, im just kidding, without you this whole place would be a mess
her: thats right, thank you
me: your welcome

I keep walking.

A few minutes later, I see her again.

me: hey thanks again for keeping this place clean
her: ha
me: whats your name?
her: christina
me: im gio
me: do u go to school around here?
her: ya city college
me: oh cool

We chat for a minute.

me: you seem really cool, can I call u later and continue flirting with you
her: well, um, ok,

Got her number. Texted her just before sunset. No response.

My highest-status approach. This was back in May at the university I attend. Saw this athletic blond sporting implants stuffed in a tanktop strut out of her classroom. I was leaning back on a railing, and as she passed by I asked her if she had just done her finals. She stops, turns to face me, and replied that it was a study group. I take this vibe as an invite, so I kind of scamper over to her and start up a walk and talk chat.

She immediately got into some kinda weird shit about how she's been scouting around campus for midgets for a plan of hers to orchestrate a mass-midget-streaking for the commencement ceremony. I roll with it, and imply that she should lead the charge, to which she claimed would be inappropriate, as well as embarrassing on her part. Yeah.

As we cruise along toward whatever class building she mentioned she was heading to, she pretty much sticks with the midgets topic, and tosses out shit she'd like to try for the stunt, like wearing a big gown, and lifting it up in front of the crowd to unleash midgets from under it.

Upon arriving at her stop, I try to setup a date for the same day, but she throws out some shit about having to do pick up her daughter an' do some errands. One more lingering chat as I look her over. In addition to the tank, she's got on these loud-ass yoga pants that were so vacuum-sealed tight that the contour of her vulva was immaculately outlined. I get her name and number.

Later in the week I txt and never hear anything. I threw her info through the search, and it turns out that . . . http://www.playboy.com/lindsey-knight1

So, I thought that was pretty cool. Naturally, her Instagram and FB is as flooded with orbiters as you could imagine. As a quirky bonus, the search also turned her up on a plastic surgery forum, where she sobs over her botched nose job.

Maybe if she still had her natural pair, I'd have been more letdown at it going nowhere. I just don't go for all that fake shit. Looking over her albums, her athletic ass is clearly her best attribute.

approached today at the gym, i came up with a good gym opener overall went well although i should have number closed

oh well next!

(07-13-2015 11:10 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  A few recent approaches..

At the Mall:

I see a thin and pretty white girl, blond hair, tight jeans..

She is wearing a San Francisco Giants t-shirt. Her little bag is unzipped.

I time my steps so that we arrive at the escalator at the same time..

me: hey your bag is open
her: oh thanks
me: ya zip that up
her: ha got it
me: I like that old fashioned giants jersey, the black jerseys were so cool
her: oh thank you
me: are you a new yorker?
her: oh no, why?
me: you just seem like a new york girl
her: nope

We exited the escalator, she kept walking.

Next!

**

At the Mall:

I see a pretty light skinned black girl with a great body walking ahead of me. She seems lost.

me: hey are you lost?
her: no im just looking for one of those signs that lists all the stores
me: oh i think theres one right there
her: ok

We walk in the same direction.

me: what store were u looking for?
her: im not sure, i want to see what they have?
me: where are you from?
her: washington dc
me: oh cool, how u liking san francisco

We talk for a minute.

me: hey um, im thinking that maybe we should talk again sometime
her: oh
me: ya maybe get coffee or something, if youre interested.
her: sorry im not available

Next!

**

At the Mall:

I see a hot little latina working in a store, yoga pants, beautiful body.

I walk by her as she is folding clothes.. She drops a shirt..

me: hey dont make a mess
her: huh? i'm not
me: i know, im just kidding, without you this whole place would be a mess
her: thats right, thank you
me: your welcome

I keep walking.

A few minutes later, I see her again.

me: hey thanks again for keeping this place clean
her: ha
me: whats your name?
her: christina
me: im gio
me: do u go to school around here?
her: ya city college
me: oh cool

We chat for a minute.

me: you seem really cool, can I call u later and continue flirting with you
her: well, um, ok,

Got her number. Texted her just before sunset. No response.

I like seeing when your approaches don't work because its clear you are putting in the work. Payout, no payout, just keep working, keep chatting and asking for phone numbers. If they aren't interested, walk ahead and look for more opportunities. Sometimes I go out and strike out, only to think its just me that's failing when clearly its a numbers game.

Thanks! Keep adding these Gio, I for one appreciate seeing them. I should probably start adding my own!

Do you guys have any advice for a 14 year old kid like me to get girls numbers?

(07-13-2015 11:50 PM)Allhailthemighty Wrote:  Do you guys have any advice for a 14 year old kid like me to get girls numbers?

Youre 14 years old you found this place and that's what your going to ask?

I just remembered this. I was shopping for my 4th of July party at a local bulk store and they have staff members checking out your receipt vs. what you have in your cart (after you've paid and are exiting the store). It's usually two older ladies or whatnot so I think nothing of it as I'm approaching the exit, but then I notice that there's a girl who passes the boner test (blonde, cute face, nice tits, shapely ass, could stand to lose 5-10 lbs as she's shorter) on the left and she just finished with the last customer so I veer my cart her way and she instantly lights up as I hand her my receipt and she looks over my overflowing cart.

My cart pretty much opened her. I had many, many liquor bottles, mixers, tons of buns and cheese and other BBQ fixings, etc... It went something like this:

<Girl> Wow, you must be having an awesome party!
<AO> *laughs* How could you tell?
<Girl> *laughs and makes small talk as she checks my cart*

She finishes up and she gives me that longing look while I say goodbye but I don't say shit because I have a LTR that I'm happy with so there's nothing really to say but then as I walk to my car I think about my newly single buddy and the other guys I'll have at my party and figure I'll walk my cart back and if she's still there I'll invite her.

I walk up, drop off my cart, then walk by the exit and she spots me and lights up again when I ask her what she's doing for the 4th. I forgot my phone in the car so I ask her if she's got hers and she doesn't. I ask her if she has anything to write on and she doesn't, but she jumps over to the corner by the wall and hands me a piece of paper towel with her number written on it in teal sharpie.

The sharpie had bled pretty bad into the paper towel by the time I got to my car and I wasn't really sure of a couple digits but I typed in a couple variations and sent the name of the store along with a question mark.

<Girl> Haha my name is Girl!
<Girl> What's your name?
<AO> AO
<AO> What's your e-mail I'll send you details
<Girl> Here's my e-mail
<Girl> Thank you

Invited a couple other girls to the party in similar fashion, some of them showed up and everyone had a great time and I got my newly single buddy laid later that weekend.

I gotta admit it was fun approaching those ladies. This one story in particular was funny because of how the chick was totally beaming smiles at me. I'll be in a huge party town later this month and I look forward to steering girls my buddy's way.

(07-13-2015 11:50 PM)Allhailthemighty Wrote:  Do you guys have any advice for a 14 year old kid like me to get girls numbers?

Read this: http://www.rooshv.com/7-things-a-guy-can...-right-now

Start improving yourself right now. Start training (either with weights or calisthenics). Improving your body will improve your confidence. There are three good program choices, in my opinion:

1. Reg Park's 5x5 (Reg Park was a phenomenal bodybuilder of the 1940s, 50s, and 60s. He inspired Arnold Schwarzenegger to start training). Read about his program here: https://www.t-nation.com/training/reg-parks-5x5-program. Obviously, you'll want to start on the first phase. You should probably add bent over rowing (or chins) to the first phase, just to balance the shoulder out.

2. Starting Strength. This is a program a lot of guys like, and Mark Rippetoe is a very well-respected coach. Just Google it and find the PDF.

3. Stronglifts 5x5. http://stronglifts.com/5x5/

If you can't afford a gym/don't have access to one, train with calisthenics. Google Convict Conditioning, and follow the progressions. Train all six exercises 3 days a week. Ignore the programs in the book; they're generally not good. I used it until I started training with weights, and while (as expected with calisthenics) it didn't significantly increase my size, it did significantly increase my strength. When I started it, I couldn't do 5 consecutive close pushups. Now I can do 5 consecutive one arm pushups.

I'd add in dips to Convict Conditioning. Start with bench dips and progress to parallel bar dips. After you can do 10 parallel bar dips, add weight (throw books in your backpack or something). Dips and chins (pullups, just a different word for them) will build your upper body as well as you can without weights.

Watch movies with strong male actors (Clive Owen, Sean Connery, Humphrey Bogart, etc.) and see how they carry themselves. Listen to how they speak. Stand up straight. Pull your shoulders back and neck back. Stand ramrod straight, like you've a pole up your ass. You'd be surprised what good posture can do for you.

Then start approaching women. Read the Newbie sub-forum. The best teacher, of course, is experience. At your age, you're not going to be hammered (or drinking) while doing this. That's good. You'll build the requisite confidence sober. That's VERY important. A lot of guys, myself included, start relying on alcohol too much, especially in the beginning. I'm working on weaning myself off of that, and I've been moderately successful.

Above all, however, you're in high school. Be normal. I was never in the "in crowd" in high school for a lot of reasons. One was simply not giving a fuck about it and another was believing I was somehow "better" than them, largely because I was way smarter than all of them.

Don't cold approach in a closed environment. Join clubs. Be social. Play a sport. If you learn game and are a social guy (in high school and college), you'll be absolutely fine.

(07-19-2015 11:33 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  

(07-13-2015 11:50 PM)Allhailthemighty Wrote:  Do you guys have any advice for a 14 year old kid like me to get girls numbers?

Read this: http://www.rooshv.com/7-things-a-guy-can...-right-now

Start improving yourself right now. Start training (either with weights or calisthenics). Improving your body will improve your confidence. There are three good program choices, in my opinion:

1. Reg Park's 5x5 (Reg Park was a phenomenal bodybuilder of the 1940s, 50s, and 60s. He inspired Arnold Schwarzenegger to start training). Read about his program here: https://www.t-nation.com/training/reg-parks-5x5-program. Obviously, you'll want to start on the first phase. You should probably add bent over rowing (or chins) to the first phase, just to balance the shoulder out.

2. Starting Strength. This is a program a lot of guys like, and Mark Rippetoe is a very well-respected coach. Just Google it and find the PDF.

3. Stronglifts 5x5. http://stronglifts.com/5x5/

If you can't afford a gym/don't have access to one, train with calisthenics. Google Convict Conditioning, and follow the progressions. Train all six exercises 3 days a week. Ignore the programs in the book; they're generally not good. I used it until I started training with weights, and while (as expected with calisthenics) it didn't significantly increase my size, it did significantly increase my strength. When I started it, I couldn't do 5 consecutive close pushups. Now I can do 5 consecutive one arm pushups.

I'd add in dips to Convict Conditioning. Start with bench dips and progress to parallel bar dips. After you can do 10 parallel bar dips, add weight (throw books in your backpack or something). Dips and chins (pullups, just a different word for them) will build your upper body as well as you can without weights.

Watch movies with strong male actors (Clive Owen, Sean Connery, Humphrey Bogart, etc.) and see how they carry themselves. Listen to how they speak. Stand up straight. Pull your shoulders back and neck back. Stand ramrod straight, like you've a pole up your ass. You'd be surprised what good posture can do for you.

Then start approaching women. Read the Newbie sub-forum. The best teacher, of course, is experience. At your age, you're not going to be hammered (or drinking) while doing this. That's good. You'll build the requisite confidence sober. That's VERY important. A lot of guys, myself included, start relying on alcohol too much, especially in the beginning. I'm working on weaning myself off of that, and I've been moderately successful.

Above all, however, you're in high school. Be normal. I was never in the "in crowd" in high school for a lot of reasons. One was simply not giving a fuck about it and another was believing I was somehow "better" than them, largely because I was way smarter than all of them.

Don't cold approach in a closed environment. Join clubs. Be social. Play a sport. If you learn game and are a social guy (in high school and college), you'll be absolutely fine.

Thanks for the advice, But should i start with getting numbers and then advance to instadate and when i get older start to aproach groups?And do you have any good calisthenics guide?

(07-20-2015 08:45 AM)Allhailthemighty Wrote:  Thanks for the advice, But should i start with getting numbers and then advance to instadate and when i get older start to aproach groups?And do you have any good calisthenics guide?

I'm going to assume that, at 14, you're doing day game. Giovanny is our forum expert on day game, but based on my experience (far less than others) approaching groups during the day is a fool's errand.

You should start by simply talking to women. It's rare to start getting numbers right off the bat. Build up experience talking to women, flirting with them, etc., then getting numbers will be far easier. When I started out (at 17), I was so damn fixated on getting a number, etc. that I kind of acted like a steamroller. I ignored the reactions simply because I wanted that fucking number. Needless to say, that didn't work out so well. 90% of this stuff is calibration.

Now, in terms of calisthenics guides, Convict Conditioning is probably the best in terms of simple progressions. It's actually fairly well written as well, which is always a plus.

Al Kavadlo's Raising the Bar is all about pullups, dips, and leg raises.

Pushing the Limits (also by Kavadlo) is about the same stuff as Convict Conditioning. All three of the books are available for free online; you'll just have to look around a bit.

How would you approach . . .

"Excuse me . . . is that a good, umm, phone?

(07-20-2015 03:06 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  Giovanny is our forum expert on day game

Thanks. However, I want to reiterate that my success is not so much because I am an "expert" in day game; It's more because I am simply willing to play the "numbers game" on a massive scale. I approach more, I get rejected more, I give myself more chances -- that is my area of expertise.

The technicalities and nuances of day game are things I am still learning everyday.

**

A few recent approaches..

Community College Bookstore:

I saw a hot, sexy, young filapina with radiant skin and a tight body, she was looking at computers. I walked over without ever making eye contact and pretended to also be looking at computers.

I noticed her sandals. Without hesitation:

me: i like your birkenstocks
her: oh haha they're not really birkenstocks, i got them at payless
me: i wont say anything haha
her: ha
me: you must be smart if you shop there
her: ya good deals you know
me: heck ya I get shoes from there sometimes but my real stores are ross and marshalls
her: omg, ya!

We talk for a minute.

me: where are you from?
her: I actually go to long beach state

Blah, blah, blah..

me: wanna get coffee sometime?
her: oh i dont think i can, i leave tonight

Next!

--

Mall:

I see a beautiful mediterranean woman walking in short shorts and a shoulder exposing blouse, thin and toned body, flawless tanned skin, petite and sexy.

She is holding a big box and headed towards the escalator.

I quickly take a sharp angle towards the escalator and get on first without ever looking at her.

She gets on a few seconds later.

me: you're getting your workout today
her: oh this is very light, just a water filter
me: oh its it a britta?
her: actually yes

We exit the escalator and she quickly walks away.

I wait 5 minutes for her to finish her transaction and then I walk over as she is looking at wooden spoons.. I pretend to be looking at the wooden spoons..

me: what happened to your filter?
her: oh i was returning it, i dont like the parabens in plastic
me: yes i agree, i only use glass
her: oh, you know about that stuff
me: yes of course, glass is the best.
her: most people are not aware of this
me: i know, i was raised by health nuts

We chat for a minute.

me: where are u from?
her: I live in the marina

Blah, blah, blah..

me: next time im in the marina, maybe we should go out for coffee
her: oh my gosh, im flattered but im with someone, pleasure meeting you though
me: you're happy?
her: um yes

Next!

**

Summer time day game is my favorite hobby!

It's just a matter of time/approaches until I get a new summer fling!

Building my social skills has been so EMPOWERING! I'm so happy to have this skill set. All the hard work, awkward moments, and rejections were well worth it!

Giovonny,

Do you ever experience pre-approach anxiety? That is, have you trained your mind to keep it under tight control or is it just not there anymore?

Your situational-on-the-fly openers are exemplary, my hatt's off to you.

(07-21-2015 12:57 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(07-20-2015 03:06 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  Giovanny is our forum expert on day game

Thanks. However, I want to reiterate that my success is not so much because I am an "expert" in day game; It's more because I am simply willing to play the "numbers game" on a massive scale. I approach more, I get rejected more, I give myself more chances -- that is my area of expertise.

The technicalities and nuances of day game are things I am still learning everyday.

**

A few recent approaches..

Community College Bookstore:

I saw a hot, sexy, young filapina with radiant skin and a tight body, she was looking at computers. I walked over without ever making eye contact and pretended to also be looking at computers.

I noticed her sandals. Without hesitation:

me: i like your birkenstocks
her: oh haha they're not really birkenstocks, i got them at payless
me: i wont say anything haha
her: ha
me: you must be smart if you shop there
her: ya good deals you know
me: heck ya I get shoes from there sometimes but my real stores are ross and marshalls
her: omg, ya!

We talk for a minute.

me: where are you from?
her: I actually go to long beach state

Blah, blah, blah..

me: wanna get coffee sometime?
her: oh i dont think i can, i leave tonight

Next!

--

Mall:

I see a beautiful mediterranean woman walking in short shorts and a shoulder exposing blouse, thin and toned body, flawless tanned skin, petite and sexy.

She is holding a big box and headed towards the escalator.

I quickly take a sharp angle towards the escalator and get on first without ever looking at her.

She gets on a few seconds later.

me: you're getting your workout today
her: oh this is very light, just a water filter
me: oh its it a britta?
her: actually yes

We exit the escalator and she quickly walks away.

I wait 5 minutes for her to finish her transaction and then I walk over as she is looking at wooden spoons.. I pretend to be looking at the wooden spoons..

me: what happened to your filter?
her: oh i was returning it, i dont like the parabens in plastic
me: yes i agree, i only use glass
her: oh, you know about that stuff
me: yes of course, glass is the best.
her: most people are not aware of this
me: i know, i was raised by health nuts

We chat for a minute.

me: where are u from?
her: I live in the marina

Blah, blah, blah..

me: next time im in the marina, maybe we should go out for coffee
her: oh my gosh, im flattered but im with someone, pleasure meeting you though
me: you're happy?
her: um yes

Next!

**

Summer time day game is my favorite hobby!

It's just a matter of time/approaches until I get a new summer fling!

Building my social skills has been so EMPOWERING! I'm so happy to have this skill set. All the hard work, awkward moments, and rejections were well worth it!

Is it this nromal to rejected and how do you deal with it?

(07-21-2015 04:32 PM)Allhailthemighty Wrote:  Is it this nromal to rejected and how do you deal with it?

Yes it is normal to get rejected. How he deals with it? He just doesn't give a fuck and approaches the next cutie and thats why Gio is the man here.

(07-21-2015 04:32 PM)Allhailthemighty Wrote:  Is it this normal to rejected and how do you deal with it?

Yes, it is incredibly usual to get rejected. The best guys in the world get rejected a solid amount of the time (25% is considered an outstanding ratio).

How do you deal with it? Move on. There a ton of women out there. Some of them are pretty attractive.

^^

Hot Russian girl sunbathing. We made extended eye contact so I went over. Immediate rejection ("I'm getting married"). Doesn't matter, I'm rusty and I needed it. See rejection as oil lubricating your approach rustiness and fear.

I should have approached sooner after the eye contact, that hesitation may have killed me, but there was probably nothing I could have done.

(07-13-2015 11:10 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  Can you explain how this works..?

How do you "screen"?

What are some examples of "screening"?

What type of questions should I ask in order to "screen a girl?

Thanks Libertas!

http://www.goodlookingloser.com/laid/screening

At times I will tell girls if they don't want to talk to me I'll leave (especially in confined areas or high-pressure situations). This makes it pretty clear whether they're interested or not.

I will also at times use some light touching to gauge her reaction. I took a page out of Chris' playbook of squeezing her bicep and asking if she hits the gym or has "a license for those guns."

I need to tweak the touching part a bit further though.

A few approaches in the last week or so to update:

Whole foods. I see a blonde woman with nice legs. White girl. I follow her to the aisle she's on and she's browsing chocolate bars. I sidle up next to her and pick up a chocolate bar. She was about 5'7. Blue eyes with germanic features. An attractive, slightly older girl...late 20s...maybe early 30s.
Me: Excuse me
Her: she looks at me.
Me. are those good?
Her: Yes, they're okay blah blah...I like them because there's no soy and not much sugar.
Me: Really? That's kind of what I'm looking for as I have some food sensitivities.
Her: Yes, me too. I have to watch everything I eat.
We both talk about our food sensitivities for about 5 minutes and I ask her about her condition, etc. She's into the health field so she seems to like talking about it.
Me: I'm trying to discern your accent...are you from here?
Her: Yes, I am. Where are you from?
I tell her....we chat some more about what we do. She's making eye contact and smiling but not overtly attracted. More like friendly.
Me: Well, thanks for the food advice, I've got to run. By the way what was your name?
Her: Blah ( I don't remember)
Me: nice to meet you blah.
Her: Nice to meet you too. Your name?
Me: robreke
I start to walk off and say" hey I enjoyed chatting you seem pretty cool, let's grab a coffee or drink one evening"
her: Well, I'm with someone now.
Me: Oh I see. Well, nice to meet you.
Next

I was eating lunch at the grocery sitting at a table. I see an amazing pair of legs come up the escalator. A brunette with a dark dress. Tall. nice calves . I'm sold. I finish my lunch then walk through the store looking for her.

I spot her at the other end a few minutes later and she's walking toward me. I walk toward her and look in her basket.
Me: Excuse me, are those good?
Her: these chips?
Me: yes, the kettle corn? I've been seeing those all over the place.
Her: yes they're good.
Me: ok, I was at my friends the other night and she had some ....said she liked the too.
Her: ya I think they're popular.
I ask a few questions about the chips. She seems engaged with a slight smile on her face.
Me: Okay I may try them. by the way, I know this is a little random and I was interested in the chips, but another reason I talked to you is I thought you looked quite nice today and wanted to say hello.
She looked flattered.
I'm robreke ( extending hand)
Her: Erin. Nice to meet you.
We talked a bit about what she does and she asked me a few questions ( IOI's) I joked with her about being from Connecticut and a transplanted yankee.
Me: Well, I'll let you go....why don't we get together for a coffee or drink sometime?
Her: yeah okay.
I got her number and she said....'just text me and we can do something'
I texted her on and off the past week and we're meeting at a cocktail lounge early next week.

I approached a girl at the bookstore but realized she was not attractive enough. I bailed.

I stopped a girl coming out of whole foods. A tall latino with nice legs in a dress.
Me: hey, excuse me.
her: yes.
Me: hi...I know this sounds a little random, but I just noticed you as I was walking out and thought you looked nice today and wanted to say hello.
Her: Thank you.
She seemed to maintain a professional semi-curt air about her. Not really warming up. My energy was a little off that day too.
I asked her name and she told me. I offered mine.
Her - nice to meet you robreke
She looked like she wanted to walk off. so....
Me: nice to meet you too.
Next

Today at whole foods:

I notice a totally fit blonde white girl walking around the store. She's wearing black yoga pants and a tight pink spandex tank top. Tennis shoes. Clean, tan and cute. She's about 5'7....probably 23.

I saw her go up to the iced tea section. I sidled up next to her and grabbed a drink and was looking at it.
Me: Excuse me, is that drink good?
Her: Yes, I like these teas.
I asked some questions about it. I told her a friend of mine is addicted to those kinds of drinks but I hadn't tried them yet.
We talked about the tea and drink selection for 30 seconds or so.
I changed the subject.
Me: So, is that an accent I detect.
She kind of smiled and said : I don't have an accent.
Me: but you're not from around here?
Her: I'm from California.
Me; Ahhh, norcal.
Her: Yes....I moved here 3 weeks ago.
Me: Nice
I was kind of keeping the conversation alive as she'd go down a little on the drink aisle and look at new ones. It was very busy in the store so people were stepping in between us to get drinks off the shelves. I kept the conversation going though.
Her: Where are you from?
Me: Take a guess.
She guessed and said she could detect a southern 'twang'
I told her it was a good guess but it was a few states over.
She asked me about my job and if I'd been out in town lately at night. I told her some things I like to do around town and we chatted about that for a minute or so.
She was asking me questions and making on off contact with a smile and slightly unsure/bemused look on her face. She also itched her neck on and off ( nervous?) and at one point crossed one arm across her chest as she grabbed her trap muscle. ( this seemed to be semi closed body language) however, she was asking me personal questions and being mostly friendly.
She said she was on a break from work now...
Me: Do you work at a gym or something like that? You look all athletic now.
Her: no , I was at the gym just working out.
She talked about how it was hard to find a good gym and I challenged her on that since there were tons of gyms around here. We bantered for another 45 seconds or so and I said.
Me: well, thanks for the drink advice. It was nice talking to you. What's your name by the way?
Her: Shelby.
Me: Nice to meet you Shelby.
Her: what's your name ( as we're shaking hands)
Me: robreke
Her: nice to meet you too ...good luck with everything.
She started to walk off kind of talking to me as she did.
Me: Hey, come here jus for a sec ( I was smirking and subtly waving her back)
She walked back.
Me: Well, you seem cool and you're cute, could I ask you for a coffee or drink sometime?
She seemed to process it with a slight smile on her face. She said: well, I'm still kind of busy moving iiiinnnnnn
Me: I tell you what, I'll text you in a week. If I don't hear back, I'll get over it, if you do, maybe something great will happen"
Her: That sounds fair
I got her number and mentioned a few amazing places I know about. We both said our goodbyes.
I usually text them later that evening , but I may wait until next week to text her since that's what I said.

I had probably 3 or so other interactions that didn't go well during this period, or the girls just kind of walked off after answering my questions but those don't stand out in my mind much anymore. It looks like I'm finally getting to where I forget the worse approaches.

(07-22-2015 05:40 PM)Libertas Wrote:  ^^

Hot Russian girl sunbathing. We made extended eye contact so I went over. Immediate rejection ("I'm getting married"). Doesn't matter, I'm rusty and I needed it. See rejection as oil lubricating your approach rustiness and fear.

I should have approached sooner after the eye contact, that hesitation may have killed me, but there was probably nothing I could have done.

Damn, reminds me of a few girls at college last semester.

If you get an IOI, approach. It sounds so simple, but it can be so tough.

Felt crap today and really didn't want to talk to anyone. None the less, I am on the train and I see this cute cambodian, all made up, revealing legs. Face a cute 7, body 7 as well.

Me: "Excuse me, where did you get that hand bag? It looks really good"
Her: "Oh thanks (says name of store)"
Me: "How much did you pay for it?"
Her: (says price I can't remember)

We chit chat about me looking to buy my sister and hand bag, we talk a bit about work and where she is headed. Her stop comes up and I reach for my wallet to crap a business card...

Her: "Oh well, good luck with buying your sister a gift"
Me: "Good luck with your dinner"

I was too nervous to give my business card because I didn't know what to say. I noticed I was really nervous on this first approach (as usual), almost to the point of shaking a little. I felt like giving awkward smiles (though I hid them) but I wasn't really present. She could tell.

Train continues and empties out a lot. Two stops away from mine, a cute asian walks in and sits opposite me. Face a 7 but would be an 8 with make up. Body a hard 8. Didn't feel like opening since I already felt I did my "job" for the night but wanted to see what it was like to open again.

Me: "Excuse me, how much did you pay for those shoes?"
Her: "Oh, I think $110?.... something like that"
Me: "$110? did you say?"
Her: "Yer something like that"

(she looks back at her mobile)

Me: "Where abouts did you get them?"
Her: "xxxxxxx.."
Me: "Did you say xxxxx?"
Her: "Yer..."
Me: "I didn't know xxxxxxx had a xxxx store"
Her: "Oh yer it does. Its always so busy now. There's one in the city too and its always busy"
Me: "Hmm. ok... good choice"
Her: "Thanks" (smiles and looks back at phone)

As soon as we stop chatting, my stop arrives and I exit.

When I day game, I've only opened once for the day (usually because I am too busy and I deem myself successful having already done one opener). Tonight, on the train, I opened twice and I noticed that the second open was SO MUCH EASIER. I felt my anxieties had literally dropped by 50%. I wasn't shaking, I was looking at the girl straight in the eyes, smiling naturally, thoughts were quicker, I was smoother. Now I understand it when people say you need to open a few girls to start with to "get into the zone".