Post: #3426

wink, ignore, kiss...

Post: #3427

A potentially fun & not too overdone 'game' to play with a chick.
Type of thing that falls into the 'chick crack' category.

Post: #3428

I almost fell asleep. Maybe a good one for old age pensioners.

Post: #3429

So the German girl flaked.
The large suburban shopping centre was busy so I did a bit of daygaming but lone quality and quantity was a bit thin on the ground.
I've always been indirect.

First approach was a mediocre looking local girl just next to a bubble tea place.
Decided to chat her up but I ran out of shit to talk about.

Next.

Cute looking girl buying from a takeaway place.
There were takeaway dinners for a discount and just as I opened her up she ran off.
Another short-lived approach.

Next.

Average looking Irish girl at an intersection with roadworks.
Probably one of the better looking Irish girls I've seen but Irish girls aren't as good looking as girls from the UK.
I started talking about why she was here and how long she wants to stay in Australia.
Gave her the chance to chat about her self.
Nope good bye.

That was it for the day.

(03-11-2018 03:52 AM)ksbms Wrote:  I almost fell asleep. Maybe a good one for old age pensioners.

First for me it was approach anxiety and being able to sustain a conversation.
Now it's the reverse for me that I need to think of more shit to talk about in a daygame session.
Once I tackle them both completely it should be sweet to further refine my daygame.

Post: #3430

I'm on reserve duty this week, however the talent was not that good.

The war room which I "reside" has some 19-20 year old female soldiers.
I decided to go with the "laid back" approach. I don't have much energy lately even though I cut out my #1 girl, and now seeing only one girl as primary LTR, with a lot of available time (was in a dual-LTR setting).

First girl:
HB7, 4"11, tight body and not a lot of intelligence. Tanned and wares heavy makeup.
Started by smiling and sticking my tongue out. She was shocked. Made her come to me to talk.
Teased her a little bit about being impulsive (she is) and that she should hold on to her boyfriend (she doesn't have) otherwise she is screwed. She was "semi-shocked" but I started seeing the "dear in the headlight" look.
Moved to comfort and deep rapport.
The funny thing - she asked to add me on FB. Told her I don't do FB, so she suggested taking my number. Which she did. We will see how to convert her.

Second girl:
HB7.5, 5"2, tight body and very light complextion.
Teased her about civilian uniform (she was being discharged) and how her shoes don't match. We talked about future plans, so I played "Man of the world" game. She was impressed, but had a boyfriend.
Next

Third girl:
A nerdy HB6 came over to ask for my help. 5"5, good body and a smiley face with dimples.
She asked for an audio cable, but later said that length is not important. Teased her about being naughty, and she started blushing. Tried to help her a little bit, all while moving between teasing her, telling programmers jokes and comfort.
Did not have a chance to take her number, but told her that she should come to meetups with me, as we are both curious persons. Might be able to number close her tomorrow. Will see.

Post: #3431

The office exclusively for women to work in are popping around the US and Europe.

BBC asks if there "Should there be more like this around the world?"

Atima, a middle-aged woman with a buzz-cut who is the member, 40 seconds into the video, complains that:

"[...] in my early stages of the company, I was working out of coffee shops. Men would often come up to me and tried to hit on me, interrupt my work, even though I had my head down, clearly trying to work. I would deal with, honestly, rampant harassment. Working in a women only co-working environment is like coming to a safe-heaven [...].

Then, once they hit late thirties, early forties, the panic sets in and they try to conceive with their frozen eggs which often doesn't work out, whereas they had multiple chances to meet their potential spouses by virtually sitting on their asses when they were younger, hotter, tighter, but no, the title preceding the name was all that more important. Then, years later, they ask where the all good men are and why are they committophobes. Baby, you CAN'T eat and have that cake, you know?

The story about conceiving with frozen eggs has been covered by Washington Post and, naturally, in a much less sympathetic way by Heartiste.

More about the BBC story regarding women only offices HERE.

Post: #3432

My game has been getting rusty lately, went out yesterday to this nice Latino club to work on my game, it was good practice. My LTR had a bad effect on my game overall and put me in this nice and shitty comfort zone but whatever. I am getting out of it.

I went to this Latino club with a few friends of mine, which are not particularly good with women, good wingmans are scarce. I got in the club all excited and shit. First, I inspected the place to find good spots and potential leads. I spotted a group of Latinas all dancing by themselves, I tried to convince my friend to come with me but no go. We ordered a drink instead to get him out of his head. I chilled a bit with them while keeping an eye on my target. More and more people around them. So I went and opened the whole group by guessing their nationality. I presented myself talked about salsa and shit then I ejected to get another drink and come back later.

I opened two other girls so my friend could get out of his head. We spoke and danced, until the girl who was dancing with my buddy cockblocked me.

A few minutes later, I went and re-opened all the Latinas group and asked the Mother Hen to let me dance with her cute Colombiana friend in exchange of empanadas, an easy sell. I go up to the girl, hold her hands and to my surprise she was all smiley and shit, a cute feminine Colombiana. We had a great time, she was biting her lips while we were dancing and starring at me with this look. A few minutes later, right when I went for the number her ugly friend got jealous and snatched her from me.

In retrospect, I should have isolated her from her friends and maybe had allocated some time to the ugly friend as well in my introduction. Didn't speak to the bitch.

Any feedback guys?

Post: #3433

Yesterday afternoon, while waiting for my actual date to show up, I picked up a hooker living out of her car, and she proved to be more intriguing and attractive than 70% of the chicks I've dated, including the one I met just then. Jesus, if she got herself cleaned up, imagine. Dude. Seriously.

Post: #3434

(03-19-2018 12:02 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  Yesterday afternoon, while waiting for my actual date to show up, I picked up a hooker living out of her car, and she proved to be more intriguing and attractive than 70% of the chicks I've dated, including the one I met just then. Jesus, if she got herself cleaned up, imagine. Dude. Seriously.

Post: #3435

Yeah, I know.

Post: #3436

I didn't want to open a new thread and my question is actually related to approaches so I figured I will ask here.

I want to start day game for the first time in my life and I live in a 60k city. I know that is a village compared to "small" American cities, but is that too small for day game? I don't want to spam approach and treat day game as a main thing. I thought of going maybe once or twice per week and do a couple approaches per going out to prevent burning up all opportunities. When you live in such city, even if Croat girls are in average good looking and not really fat, you rarely see good talent on streets. All this is a numbers game.

My main concern is not so much approach anxiety and the novelty of all this but the possibility that negative rumors about my approaches will spread among the chicks and I will be "that one guy that speaks to random girls on street" and the chicks in future will not take me serious because of it. Actually I am not sure what rumors are about these things as I have never been before subject of them, especially regarding Game and nobody does day game here.

Opinions and advice welcome. Thanks.

Post: #3437

(03-23-2018 02:59 PM)sterling_archer Wrote:  I didn't want to open a new thread and my question is actually related to approaches so I figured I will ask here.

I want to start day game for the first time in my life and I live in a 60k city. I know that is a village compared to "small" American cities, but is that too small for day game? I don't want to spam approach and treat day game as a main thing. I thought of going maybe once or twice per week and do a couple approaches per going out to prevent burning up all opportunities. When you live in such city, even if Croat girls are in average good looking and not really fat, you rarely see good talent on streets. All this is a numbers game.

Opinions and advice welcome. Thanks.

You want a 1 million population rich or more city. I live in 0.46 million city and see the girls I approached day in, day out. It's crazy. It if weren't for the tourists (it's a tourists rich town on weekends) and students, it would be a hell to live here. In your case, If you spam approach, you'll burn it quickly and you'll become "that" guy. I don't know how firmly you are grounded in this city but if you have connections, social circles, take into account in a small town like yours everyone knows someone who knows someone who quite likely knows you. You have almost no anonymity. With a village like yours, you have to become an exquisite sniper, talking only to girls primed for seduction. Your pre-calibration and choice of girls will have to be near perfection. Day game not recommended there anyway. Give it a try, but you won't be in a position to do 100+ approaches a month. Ideally, move to a bigger town, no less than 0.5 million. The bigger the better, sweet spot 1-10 million.

Post: #3438

Largest city in Croatia is capital, Zagreb, with little over 1 million. That is a plan for the future, to get job there first and move, but for now this must do. It is different here in Balkan, you are not expected to move from your childhood home for a long time because it is simply hard given costs and average salary.

No connections, but I am am in some social circles and you know that circles sometimes overlap. "Sniping" makes sense when I think about it. But what do you mean regarding pre-calibration and choice? How to spot girls "primed" for seduction, do you mean I fish for IOI and do it only then instead of just walking up to someone?

Post: #3439

(03-23-2018 04:52 PM)sterling_archer Wrote:  How to spot girls "primed" for seduction, do you mean I fish for IOI and do it only then instead of just walking up to someone?

You can read upon screening the girls but it will be mostly by trial and error. Read some books on body language, dressing, overall behaviour and how it can be interpreted. Observe girls a lot and people in general. It's like playing chess. For the first time, you look at the board, it makes little sense. After a 1000 hours, one glimpse at the pattern on the board will tell you who's winning and what the last few moves were.

The more time you spend on the street, the more you'll see. Give it 1000 hours and you'll see with clarity the emerging patterns. One day, you'll be able to quickly spot a lonesome girl who is quite likely ovulating and haven't had sex for months.

Spotting IOIs is actually quite difficult. Girls are very good at looking at men but not being seen looking at them. Only recently I got good at it - most of the time they glance at a very sharp angle, just at the very periphery of what I can see and are very brief, 250-500ms. Barely perceptible. Sometimes I notice them just because I stubbornly look at a girl's face to see if she'll throw me the briefest of glances. With some practice, developed good peripheral vision, you'll notice that more girls look at you than you thought.

A better way is to force IOIs, which takes some great skill and practice. This can be your swagger, more pronounced arm swaying, it can be unusual clothing (aka peacocking). I've never really done that but on colder days I started wearing a pemba toque hat. Nothing really crazy but unusual enough that girls would have a "legitimate" excuse to look at me directly for a prolonged period of time, one to two seconds so I could lock my eyes up with them, see them smile and get much more noticeable reactions. I think peacocking is underused - I don't mean ridiculous stuff, but one, at most two items that stand out a little in comparison to what other men wear. You can look very aggressively into girls eyes and see the reactions, then act open them and approach girls who held eye-contact with. You can smile, and see if they smile back. You can make interesting fake phone calls in the vicinity of a girl to make her curious. You can talk to other people first (in a café, for example) and have her eavesdrop, then open her.

You can follow a girl for extended amount of time before approaching her. Over five minutes time you'd be surprised you can learn. A girl will enter a store to buy children's toys - well, probably a mum. A girl will enter a gift shop, likely a tourist. A girl will be shopping for expensive high heels in an expensive store, eve if she's wearing ones - probably a bored wife of rich man. Is she walking with a slow, moderate or fast pace? And so on, and so forth Depending how good you are and how much information you gather, the more precise you can be with type of game you want to unleash - more of a badboy, or more of a nice guy? More of businessman or more of an artist? A quick touch-and-go close or gearing for idate.

This to just give you an idea. Like in every craft, the more you learn, the more you see. It takes time, but you'll get rewarded.

Post: #3440

Your post was very helpful. Thank you. I read a lot about body language and can now interpret actions of most people so this will probably be helpful. Even though I said this, I will still be met with entirely different battlefield, as I mainly observe people in my close vicinity not everybody around me. I must get more experience here, simple as that.

I will try first to get eye contact and do the approach. When you live in a small city and there are not many people on the street, people tend to lock eye contact more with each other than for example in large city. What I also observed that we tend to greet more on the street, even people we don't know and we even get greeting in return. There are exceptions like some girls looking whole time slightly towards ground while walking. Always regarded those as not approach worthy.
So, in my experience, I think I will have easier time getting eye contact because I got them already multiple times before but I never made day approach before. Does that make sense?

Do you generally go direct or you tend to use indirect approach? For example I read Day Bang and like this book, but that book is exclusively indirect and makes sense if you are going to some venues/bookstores/etc. but on the street is another matter, am I right?

Post: #3441

There was a 9 and a 7 at the gym. I felt intimidated by the 9 so I opened the 7 and and she didn’t hook. If I’m going to swing and miss, it might as well have been with the 9.

Post: #3442

Had a blast yesterday, I finally found a club with a very good ratio. There were more women than guys. I danced a little bit with my friend to warm up then we went in the battlefield, the dancefloor was packed. I approached a few girls, after a few rejections I found my prey. An Indian Psychology student, very cute and a great kisser. Unfortunately, I didn't close it yesterday but it's good to be back.

Post: #3443

(03-19-2018 12:02 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  Yesterday afternoon, while waiting for my actual date to show up, I picked up a hooker living out of her car, and she proved to be more intriguing and attractive than 70% of the chicks I've dated, including the one I met just then. Jesus, if she got herself cleaned up, imagine. Dude. Seriously.

(03-19-2018 12:43 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  Yeah, I know.

Had a similar instance recently whereby I met a stripper that was the hottest stripper I've ever encountered, if not one of the hottest chicks I've ever encountered in person.
So like yourself, while knowing in reality that any attempt to bring the damaged chick into your life would be a fools errand.
One can wonder what could have been if that hot chick took a different course much, much earlier in life...

Although I did have to laugh to myself that she stated she studies to be a clinical psychologist four days per week & does stripping one day per week.
I lightly teased her by saying things along the lines of - "do you have a twin sister to date?"
Yet the idea of "doctor heal thyself" would always be foremost in mind for a former stripping "clinical psychologist"...

Post: #3444

At least you could understand what your girl was saying, as this chick rambled at the speed of sound. I used a classic Roosh line to get the exchange started.

Post: #3445

Waa at the beach in this village by the sea and saw a girl solo reading a book. Took my sunscreen and asked her to put it on my back because I can't reach, she said why you have your friend to do that. She still did it, I asked if she's a local she said yes but was giving bad vibes. If there's one thing to know about Turkey there are only yes girls and no girls - she was a no girl.

Post: #3446

(03-23-2018 07:27 PM)ksbms Wrote:  The more time you spend on the street, the more you'll see. Give it 1000 hours and you'll see with clarity the emerging patterns. One day, you'll be able to quickly spot a lonesome girl who is quite likely ovulating and haven't had sex for months.

^^^
I like that.

Post: #3447

(03-23-2018 02:59 PM)sterling_archer Wrote:  I didn't want to open a new thread and my question is actually related to approaches so I figured I will ask here.

I want to start day game for the first time in my life and I live in a 60k city.
My main concern is not so much approach anxiety and the novelty of all this but the possibility that negative rumors about my approaches will spread among the chicks and I will be "that one guy that speaks to random girls on street" and the chicks in future will not take me serious because of it.

Opinions and advice welcome. Thanks.

Ksbms is definitely right about spam-approaching not being a viable option in your situation, but I'd say there are some things that you could take advantage of in your small city.

Direct game is definitely off the cards, as you don't want to be in a situation where your unsuccessful approaches could end up hurting you.

Instead I'd say stick to more slow-burner style indirect game. Get used to chatting up girls while you're out and about doing whatever, whether it's in the line at the coffee stand, at the gym, in the book store- just be cool, friendly, maybe a little bit flirtatious but always leaving some plausible deniability. Situational or observational openers are your best friend in these situations.

Generally I'd say don't even go for the number/contact details immediately, just have a fun little interaction and be sure to leave it on a high point.

Since you're in such a small city you'll inevitably be running into these girls that you chatted up previously, and you can use your previously established familiarity/rapport to keep your interaction going. Think of it like an even more extended version of Giovonny's multi-stage approach (forget what he calls it, but e.g. where he would be sure to spread out multiple interactions with the same girl in a grocery store, and eventually go for the close)- you build up good vibes with some girls over time, they see you as a cool, social guy who enjoys talking to people (not some player type), and when you feel the vibe is right then you ask them to hang out together sometime.

As far as I can see that's probably the most sustainable way to go about improving your day game skills, the advantage is that you get practice and meet girls in a way that won't build up any kind of player reputation for you, but the disadvantage is that the nature of this approach would take some time to deliver results.

Post: #3448

So you are thinking about chatting up girls in various establishments and over time if seeing them again try to continue conversation from before? But not using street. I think I get it. Makes more sense actually than my initial idea and is completely harmless for me. Actually it reminds me at the time where I made acquaintances with several waitresses in my favorite coffee bar so each time I went in we could just continue the conversation from before. Didn't pursue anything because they were all in relationship/married though.

Btw, regarding running into the girls, here I must confirm that I indeed see the same faces over and over again. When you consider the number of inhabitants and cut it several times because of various factors you will get probably a small number of girls walking around/doing something and logically you can notice them.

Post: #3449

(03-27-2018 03:22 PM)sterling_archer Wrote:  So you are thinking about chatting up girls in various establishments and over time if seeing them again try to continue conversation from before? But not using street. I think I get it. Makes more sense actually than my initial idea and is completely harmless for me. Actually it reminds me at the time where I made acquaintances with several waitresses in my favorite coffee bar so each time I went in we could just continue the conversation from before. Didn't pursue anything because they were all in relationship/married though.

Btw, regarding running into the girls, here I must confirm that I indeed see the same faces over and over again. When you consider the number of inhabitants and cut it several times because of various factors you will get probably a small number of girls walking around/doing something and logically you can notice them.

Yeah it comes down to essentially building up a rapport with girls over the space of multiple interactions.

I'm just theorizing about the feasibility of it in your situation but I've applied a similar approach myself.

I tend to spend a lot of time around my uni campus- where it's a similar kind of situation that it's a smaller pool of people and so the same kind of concerns as your situation.

I've just kept my eyes out for easy approach situations. So for example I'll see a cute girl in the library with a spot next to her open and go sit there. Then I'll just ignore, open up my laptop and focus on my work for a bit, then when I get up to go to the bathroom or whatever then I'll just ask her if she can watch my stuff, and then open up a conversation after. Or otherwise just use some simple opener in the line to grab a coffee, or outside smoking, whatever- just be cool, friendly, make a couple light jokes, that kind of thing. And then I tend to cut off the interaction after a couple minutes, maybe get their name and tell them I'll see them around.

Then next time we run into eachother it's that much easier to 'resume' the interaction- you've already built up some familiarity previously, you can touch on some of the previous conversational threads/inside jokes and go from there. All the principles of day game/conversation do apply, the only thing is that you're spacing it out over a couple of interactions.

I'll be perfectly honest with you in that over the last year or two this has gotten me just a handful of numbers/dates and gotten me friendly with a few girls, but I haven't put in much of an active effort at all. Given the results I've seen from the little effort I have put in I could see it being feasible or suited to your situation, and at the very least it would definitely help sharpen up your day game skills so you're better prepared for when you do eventually move to a larger city more suited to larger-scale approaching.

Post: #3450

Thank you for advice thebassist, I appreciate it and will follow it.