Post: #1

:huh:One of the problem I've been encountering is to isolate the girl that I am interested who is within a group of her friends and talk to.. I have been encountering a problem where the ugly or one of the girls that I am not interested pull away my target. For instance, the friend will say sth like, 'we are going to the rest room, which is not true and I can see her with my target in another spot'.

Sometimes, I just want to tell the ugly to go alone and leave the target and being rude about it b/c I get really irritated when it happens.

My approach has been always to keep them all engage and ignore my target, but after a while, I want to find a way to transition and start talking to my target w/o ignoring the other girl(s). I am trying to find an effective way to stop the ugly or the blocker from this tactics. My question is how do you approach it, when you find yourself in this situation.

Thanks.
Ziggymar

Post: #2

I'm assuming that you have been talking to the target, and that the target hasn't been talking to her friend, sooo when her friend says "We're going to the bathroom", reply with something like "Oh, your a mindreader. I didn't believe in that stuff before, but wow, now I know its true." (since the friend and the target haven't been communicating, the friend sholdn't know if the target needs to go to the bathroom.) Also, you could say "Excuse me, I'm having a nice conversation with your friend. You can go to the bathroom, and I promise, we won't have left by then *wink*." And then just ignore her and carry on like nothing happened. Also, you could suggest to the target, "Hey let's go get a drink." and bring her over to the bar.

Post: #3

Hopefully you are in a US city with a bunch of bullshit smoking laws.

Here on Oahu, you have to smoke at least 20 feet from the door of any building. Ask her if she wants to burn and head outside. A lot of bars have set up little smoker's gazebo's. I've swooped girls without ever going into the damn bar. I just have one rolled and look for the best looking smoker.

Aloha!

Post: #4

Yeah, smoking laws are great for isolation.

Sometimes I just chill in the smoking areas. They usually have the coolest most interesting people anyways.

Usually I have found that the hottest girls in the group smoke as well.

Its always the lame ones that say "that's gross"

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Post: #5

'you know, I've noticed something about you'

The girl will want to know what it is. Wait a few minutes and then tell her, 'let's go over here...'

Then you just resume the conversation. I stole this bit from Mystery and it works really well.

Post: #6

The smoking isolation really makes me want to start smoking. I do smoke black n milds sometimes, so maybe I'll bring those out with me more.

Another line Mystery uses was something like, "Hey I wanna show you something cool" or "take you somewhere cool" and she'll go where/what is it, and you say, it's called "come over here and see"

I mean, as I learn it really amounts to gaging the girl's interest to see what you can get away with.

Post: #7

The best isolation moves I have used and the ones I have had the most success with is straight forward stuff. Don't get fancy or it will look creepy.

I will just be straight and say shit:

"Hey, come get a drink with me."
or
"Walk with me over here and check this out."
or
"Its loud as hell, I cant hear what you are saying, come over here."
or
"Come out back with me, its smokey, cold, hot, crowded."

What i do is I throw out a direct statement like that and then I begin the movement to that destination.

90% of the time - she will just follow you. Don't touch her though while you are executing the movement or it will trigger the "he wants to fuck me alarm" and she will bail.

Just a simple "hey - come over here with me." and start walking is what i do. It works flawlessly if rapport has been built and the convo has flowed.

If you try to isolate too early, they will think you are creppy. But from what ive learned in the field, simple works the best because it looks the most natural. If you devise some scheme or bullshit, they pick up on it.

Post: #8

Black 'n Milds, I bet a younger G would have approved.

Post: #9

I smoke when I drink unless Im with a girl that cant stand it. Smoking is a good icebreaker, but as soon as I peel a girl off I knock the cigarette smoking off and brush my teeth. I hate cigarette morning breath and hair that reeks.

Post: #10

(09-22-2009 04:58 PM)CJ Wrote:  The smoking isolation really makes me want to start smoking. I do smoke black n milds sometimes, so maybe I'll bring those out with me more.

Another line Mystery uses was something like, "Hey I wanna show you something cool" or "take you somewhere cool" and she'll go where/what is it, and you say, it's called "come over here and see"

I mean, as I learn it really amounts to gaging the girl's interest to see what you can get away with.

You don't need to smoke to pull that one. Just use it anyway to isolate (if you know she smokes).

Post: #11

My best isolation line is "i can't hear you, come over hear for a second."

or

something as basic as "lets move over here."

Everytime I contrived some bullshit - it looked to foward to soon.

Post: #12

(09-23-2009 01:28 PM)Trotter Wrote:  You don't need to smoke to pull that one. Just use it anyway to isolate (if you know she smokes).

How about, you look like you could use a smoke? Or something along that. I gotta remember to bring my damn lighter with me too, I don't know how many times I saw my uncle pick up a girl just with lighting their smoke.

Post: #13

Hey guys,

Thanks for your suggestions and your input. What about if there are just 2 of them?. If there were more than 2 girls, it is easier to isolate your target. What about if there are just 2 of them and the ugly girl feels completly isolated and she will be looking over her shoulder, checking on her friend.

What I normally do is to befriend some dude in the bar to be my wing-man, so that I can talk to my target, but sometimes, I can't find a dude and I will be there with these two girls and I can't isolate my target. I will be rambling and rambling, like some best friends shit....and I feel so wiered and I finally ran out of ideas and I will say' nice meeting you guys' and I walk away like a fool without closing the deal............