Post: #26

(02-03-2012 12:08 PM)MiXX Wrote:  Something is off. Either 80% of women in EE are lying (which is a good, that means they are DTF), or 80% of women in EE do not feel they need to validate their beauty by saying she has a BF to prove to herself she is of high value, like their Americas equivalents.

Which is it?


Mixx

I would say the latter bolded part, Mixx.

Post: #27

(02-03-2012 11:22 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(02-03-2012 11:13 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

(02-03-2012 11:06 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  Personally, I don't ask if she has a BF. It use to be when I ran into a married girl, I would in a semi-serious way respond 'Happily Married?' when she told me she was married. As you know, most married people are not too happy and you can actually get a snapshot of her vulnerability at that second. Girls in general always have an issue with their BFs.

With girls who say they have BFs, I just like to go direct. They think that telling me they have a BF will slow me down, but I do the opposite. I ask them if they are happy, and then pull them into me...and escalate from there. When it works, it's really on.

Looks, like in Roosh's case, he was able to pick up on a slow play.

I even flat out ignore the comment of her having a BF and proceed to escalate as if I did not hear a fucking thing she said.....

Chic Logic #14: I told this guy I have a BF, and he kept on touching me, and then he kissed me, I am NOT a slut. I told him I have a BF, but he ignored my answer. It's his fault I stuck my tongue in his mouth, and we had sex.

BF, husband or whatever. It doesn't matter here in slut city. I don't ask or care. They all fuck whenever they feel like it.

Her: I have a boyfriend
Me: Rum and coke?

Her: My husband this or that
Me: Rum and coke?

I could see how that line would work in Europe but here in Skanksville the best thing to do is not even listen or entertain anything that will make them think about other guys in their lives.

Agreed, in NA it's typically better to ignore the comment. EE girls, in general, are as slutty.

Post: #28

I can see everyone's point of view (mixx not even asking about a boyfriend and luckystar's line). I'm like Mixx though. I rarely ask about a boyfriend, because I'm trying to keep the attention on me and my dick.

If a girl throws it out there, I either completely ignore it like mechanico or use Gmac's line "I just met you and you're already telling me about your problems?".

I don't think I could pull off the line Roosh.

Post: #29

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Post: #30

Ok wtf I read through this way to fast when I woke up in bed. This is definetly something I can try now.

Luckystar - let's say she takes a second or 2 to reply. Would it be good to look in her eyes and ask "be honest with me. Are you really happy?". I wouldn't know how to work it if she replies right away with "yes!!" Or even takes a while for that yes. This is a foreign concept to me.

Post: #31

(02-03-2012 02:07 PM)houston Wrote:  Ok wtf I read through this way to fast when I woke up in bed. This is definetly something I can try now.

Luckystar - let's say she takes a second or 2 to reply. Would it be good to look in her eyes and ask "be honest with me. Are you really happy?". I wouldn't know how to work it if she replies right away with "yes!!" Or even takes a while for that yes. This is a foreign concept to me.

The pause is what I look for. I'll pre-empt with 'doesn't look like it', 'ah, that's what I thought' or 'uh-oh, we'll have to find a way to make you happy tonight'. All the pause is telling you is that she is wounded prey.

If she says emphatically says yes, I say 'ya, me too' (match her enthusiasm) and proceed with escalation.

Either way, you move to escalation if you can.

Post: #32

(02-03-2012 02:07 PM)houston Wrote:  Ok wtf I read through this way to fast when I woke up in bed. This is definetly something I can try now.

Luckystar - let's say she takes a second or 2 to reply. Would it be good to look in her eyes and ask "be honest with me. Are you really happy?". I wouldn't know how to work it if she replies right away with "yes!!" Or even takes a while for that yes. This is a foreign concept to me.

American girls will never admit they are happy unless it will make you unhappy.

Wow! A winning scratchoff! Are you happy?
Her: It's only $100 so?

It was just a loose wire, your car is fixed! Good luck huh?
Her: Not really I'm late for work

Blah blah blah
I watched this girl eat a slab of ribs in the casino the other night like it was her last meal. When it was almost done the waitress asked "How was it?" The bitch told her to send it back then she took the new meal and wrapped it togo. Nice! I did get her digits anyway for a spite bang in the future

Post: #33

First i'd just ignore the statement. If she persists, then i'd use Luckystars line.

(02-03-2012 10:50 AM)MiXX Wrote:  BOTTOM LINE: ALL HOT WOMEN HAVE BF'S if not, I guarantee you she has FUCK BUDDIES so, I never bother asking, the answer will 99.6% always be "Yes".

I agree

Unless you're living in a city with an amazing ratio and NO obesity...90-100% is what you should expect. LOL

Post: #34

A psycho-linguistic measure of her willingness to cheat. I love you guys!



My strategy has always been that if shes not talking about her bf then I ain't either!

Post: #35

I tried Luckystar's line today. After a pause "Haha yeah at the moment". They moved into together a little while ago. Number closed anyway.

Post: #36

Seems like this line is good for getting information about how likely she is to put out, but doesn't do much to actively get you closer to sex the way some of the other answers do (e.g. "I've only known you 10 minutes and you're already telling me about your problems" and "I don't care"). It's a good strategy from the standpoint of screening girls for fast sex, but if I already had a pretty good idea of a girl's willingness to cheat I'd be inclined to either go with a witty response or just ignore it. Overall a very solid option that I'll be adding to my toolbox.

Post: #37

I've tried this at a house party. Unfortunately all of the girls said "yes" almost instantly. They did laugh afterwards tho. It's a really amazing response and I will be using it in the future. Thank you.

Post: #38

I too wait for the girl to mention the boyfriend themselves. The time it takes for her to give this info is a great calibrator in finding out how much she sees you as attractive.

I like El Mechanico's response by just offering a rum and coke to her but since i barely offer girls drinks i won't use this one. Money is still my biggest cockblock.

I use this one :

Girl : I have a boyfriend.
Me : o , me too ! ( say it with a smile but don't act gay and just keep talking about something else)

Most of the times the girls are so thrown of by this response that they don't now anything to say about it.

I think there's a similar thread somewhere because i gave this tip before.

Post: #39

(02-04-2012 05:15 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  I too wait for the girl to mention the boyfriend themselves. The time it takes for her to give this info is a great calibrator in finding out how much she sees you as attractive.

I like El Mechanico's response by just offering a rum and coke to her but since i barely offer girls drinks i won't use this one. Money is still my biggest cockblock.

I use this one :

Girl : I have a boyfriend.
Me : o , me too ! ( say it with a smile but don't act gay and just keep talking about something else)

Most of the times the girls are so thrown of by this response that they don't now anything to say about it.

I think there's a similar thread somewhere because i gave this tip before.

How about this ...Yeah I had a bf in prison. It didn't really work out. We wanted different things.

Post: #40

(02-04-2012 10:17 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(02-04-2012 05:15 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  I too wait for the girl to mention the boyfriend themselves. The time it takes for her to give this info is a great calibrator in finding out how much she sees you as attractive.

I like El Mechanico's response by just offering a rum and coke to her but since i barely offer girls drinks i won't use this one. Money is still my biggest cockblock.

I use this one :

Girl : I have a boyfriend.
Me : o , me too ! ( say it with a smile but don't act gay and just keep talking about something else)

Most of the times the girls are so thrown of by this response that they don't now anything to say about it.

I think there's a similar thread somewhere because i gave this tip before.

How about this ...Yeah I had a bf in prison. It didn't really work out. We wanted different things.

haha, great one !

Post: #41

Like Mixx said, it's best to avoid asking her if she has a boyfriend. This is what i do:

Chick : I have a boyfriend.
Me: So are you free next Wednesday,Thursday or Friday?
Chick: But I have a boyfriend
Me: Friday it is then !

Post: #42

(02-03-2012 10:50 AM)MiXX Wrote:  I NEVER ask a girl if she has a boyfriend, I wait for her to volunteer that information. However, my reasoning behind it is very similar to Luckystar's. The time it takes a girl to MENTION to you she has a boyfriend without you even asking, is the LEVEL of importance or satisfaction/happiness she has with him.

Same here. I've banged quite a few girls that didn't tell me they had a boyfriend until AFTER I had banged them.

My now canned response to that, after banging them, is, "You already knew that, and I don't care, so what was the point in telling me?"

The ones that have told me, right after giving me their number, have all been a waste of time. As usual timing is everything.

Post: #43

Girls in Ukraine have never told me they have a boyfriend, even though most of them do.

They're always open to better options, and almost all options are better than a Ukrainian dude

Post: #44

Another response you can sub for "are you happy," or even to follow that line up......

"Do you have him whipped yet?" or "Have you made him your bitch already?"
Real shit. It is flawless.

I get emotional reactions to that, usually an emphatic "no!" To which I reply, "Give it a little while. You'll be bored w/ him before you know it." And walk away.

You'd be shocked by how many of these chicks will walk up to you as the party dies down, etc. I had one girl say "no he is my SOUL MATE," I'd never heard that one before. I just gave up and walked away, clearly I wasn't getting in.....later that night I pounded it. Effortless. Sucks to be that girl's soul mate.
If the guy truly isn't whipped (not likely) then he might be fucking chicks on the side keeping her around with mind games, just cut your losses.

Post: #45

asking her "are you happy?" will also push her to look introspectively into the relationship and question it.

Post: #46

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I agree - I just hear "blah, blah" and proceed-means nothing to me. Many of these "boyfriends" are just beta placeholders, resource or status providers, fuck buddies, beta orbiters, casual dating or just plain nonexistent anyway. Nothing the chick won't cast aside to bang you and rationalize away later.
A lot of times the boyfriend line is just a shit test anyway- she's seeing if you're man enough to try and take her away from another male.
If she truly is devoted to another guy, she will block your attempts to escalate-but let her make that decision not you.
As always, look at what women do, not what they say.

[/quote]

Exactly. A friend taught me the follow up line to "sorry, I'm married.". You respond "Happily?" You can literally see the hamster wheel spinning, since almost no one is "happily married."

Post: #47

As for me out depends on the girl.If the girl is polish I answer "good."
-I have a boyfriend.-Good.Because with polish girls it can mean sth or it can mean nothing because they cheat.They just throw it in between to set some boundaries.
If the girl is Czech I answer:Is he Czech?On he Cech? Because this gives the girl the opportunity to remember her boyfriend and her feelings towards him so she will be excused to proceed with me because she had already paid her bf her feelings contribution.It has to do with the culture I cannot explain more.
If an Ukrainian girl says she has a boyfriend it is better to ask specifically about him because he may present danger (he can be mafia type,paramilitary or military) and the girl tells this as a warning (can you handle the risk? Are you brave enough?).She also wants to check out how much you want her.
The answer also depends whether you are running day game or night game.In day game the quote I have a boyfriend means always leave me alone and you have to do just that.(it is just a subtle way odd saying leave me alone if girls get harassed a lot despite saying that they may say I am married to convince you).

Post: #48

My default for IHABs:

Her: I have a boyfriend.
Me: Me too. -Then reframe

Post: #49

Her : I have a boyfriend ..
You : I have a goldfish ..
Her : What?
You : Oh, I thought we were talking about shit that doesn't matter.

Classic ahaha

Post: #50

what about when a girl mentions a guy she's kind of seeing but hes treating her poorly or is being a dick or something? I had a girl drop this one on me today and I didn't really know what to do. This was after I had isolated her after a few hours at the bar.