^ Game is for warm Maybe girls, and not fucking up and closing Yes girls.

A girl is a warm Maybe if she goes on a date 1 with you, before the date though she isn't sure if she is really physically attracted to you or is really that horny in general, but she likes your confidence and wants to give you a shot. During that date you turn her into a Yes girl with Game.

A cold Maybe girl is a 2% Hail Mary no matter how good your game or SMV(assuming she knows your SMV by the time you ask her out) is.

If you can't get her alone and in front of you on the first ask there really isn't a game going on. You are just stroking her ego.

Bottom line:

Warm Maybe girls are where you gain the most insight and experience in improving your Game.

Cold Maybe girls (won't isolate easily, won't at least submit to a first date) more often than not make you question your Game, and make you jaded with women. The 2% turn around Hail Mary really isn't worth it. I don't think you gain anything of value by trying to weasel a girl giving you the cold shoulder. The time-opportunity cost is horrific.

Guys with the best game are also the ones most easily willing to say: Next!

I wonder why that is?

(03-31-2015 06:45 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  ^ Game is for warm Maybe girls, and not fucking up and closing Yes girls.

A girl is a warm Maybe if she goes on a date 1 with you, before the date though she isn't sure if she is really physically attracted to you or is really that horny in general, but she likes your confidence and [b]wants to give you a shot. During that date you turn her into a Yes girl with Game.[/b]

...

If you can't get her alone and in front of you on the first ask there really isn't a game going on. You are just stroking her ego.

Players need to remember this, read the signs, know the green lights, gauge her interest.

You need to be brutally honest and realize when to cut the cord and next her, some players will keep holding on for that last bit.

(03-31-2015 10:58 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 08:27 AM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  Reason I ask is because anytime I have experienced burnout it was because I was running girls so hard I became somewhat of a isolationist without realizing what I had become.

This player lifestyle can be consuming and you can find yourself alone for long stints; especially if others around you aren't living the same lifestyle

Sometimes a little balance goes a long way to keep you sane, and restore some prospective

Yup this is it for me, you see the world differently, you might sometimes shun hanging out with others. For example, a married buddy hits me up to hangout, I just say I'm tired and I'm not hanging out because I KNOW it's going to be a couples party with kids.

Then another night he'll hit me up because our old friend is in town, then I'll go out.

I haven't hungout with most my friends because they're married, have kids, and in LTR's but they like hanging out with me because it's just us guys.

I have one buddy whose married but runs his marriage so he does what he wants. My best wingman is locked down to a pretty cool chick, which is a total 180 from hot psycho bitches he's dated. One of my best friends ghosts when he's in relationships and I hardly see him. My other good buddy got back with his ex for literally the 5th time.

I don't have much family to be honest, just one father figure and a mother who fell off the deep end, who I rarely have contact with. All my other family is in a major city on the east coast.

Honestly a lot of the people around here in my city are doing the same shit every weekend, going out and drinking with the same people and the same place.

That shit bores me, I even told my main last night "seriously wtf are we doing ? Why are we even going to X bar ? We need to different shit, I don't want to piss my time/life away doing the same repetitive shit"

She agreed and we're going to plan some new adventures soon.

I don't mind being alone, I like the peace and quiet and being able to do whatever the fuck I want.

When it comes to girls, typically I'll fill my week with new ones, plates, and my main.

Sometimes a man has to recharge. I've read some posts on here and resetting your game, refreshing yourself by meditation, solo trips, etc.

I think I'll be trying that this summer I think.

The feels man.

Funny thing is when I moved to the city from the country I thought I was leaving behind burnouts who did the same shit all the time. Turns out people aren't much different here. Luckily my main girl isn't big on going out all the time.

I can't wait to move out to California next February so I can at least be outside all year around. Being alone is one thing, but being alone and stuck inside for months at a time blows. It takes a toll on me.

(03-31-2015 05:59 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Having this recurrent problem for a while, I'm finally decided to look at it.

I'm situational alpha at both martial arts and dance class. Girls love practicing with me and I also spit game at them. Often, I try to isolate girls that show IOIs and try to escalate. They either don't let me or flake. I next them. Then, as I stopped talking to them and train with them, they start making this baby face and tell me "You didn't work with me today!/why are you not working with me today!"

I would then re-engage and try to isolate/escalate again. Again no luck. I next them for good for being time wasters. They come nagging again... Happen like every class now, it's annoying.

Ya all think my assertion is correct that these are simply time wasters who want to use me for my skills? Or should I have kept on gaming?

I have had a few girls do this to me at the gym. They always were ones with steady boyfriends. I chalk it up to attention whoring. Bitches want to feel like they're wanted wherever they go nowadays.

Once you pass their threshold of attention, and their gas tank is full, often they'll start the ignoring avoidance cycle all over again.

I have however, essentially cornered a few and been so bold and aggressive they know I'd rather fuck them than fill their adoration tank with more fuel. Sure it get's me mentally clumped in with the other "sick pigs" who only want sex.. but hell, my time is more important than that.

(03-30-2015 07:14 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Well boys....

I am starting to see a lot of darkness in the game.

If you have been following my pursuits...this year has been a record for me. 19 girls banged since January 1st. I think those are pretty good numbers for an intermediate player living in a 2nd tier city in the U.S.

Of course to get such numbers, I have had to burn through a of phone numbers, dates, and in general a lot of girls.

I am OK in dealing with the prize - it's still fun to bang - but I've been burning so hard that the sting of rejection is compounded many times more than I am used to.

Instead of getting rejected once a day, I am getting rejected multiple times per day.

Today alone I had 2 girls blow up at me and essentially tell me to fuck off, I had 2 numbers that didn't get an initial reply to my text, and I have a girl that's gone cold on me after 2 dates who I was genuinely excited to see again.

BUT, I have a girl coming over at 8pm to drink with me, and I usually bang girls that come straight over.

So is that a good day or a bad day? What if I bang her, will that change your opinion of the net results?

To me there is a stress around all this and I can't quite figure out how to handle it yet.

----

I am also seeing the darkness that comes with being a player. It is totally consuming and it's bordering on unhealthy.

I think I need to hit the brakes for a minute. I have been grinding and working so hard on my game, and it's working, but I don't know to what end.

I'm banging hotter girls than I have been in the past, and I'm banging younger girls than in the past, so I'm very happy with the results.

However, I'm not happy with the extent the work involved is affecting me. It is changing me and I don't know if it's for the better or the worse. I'm happier than I have been in the past, but it's surrounded by all kinds of negativity that is increasingly hard to deflect.

I don't want the game to define me, so I am struggling to find the right balance.

Make no mistake, gaming, while amazing in the way it unlocks what we desire, is also taxing on the soul and the psyche.

- the pressure you put on yourself to achieve hard goals with many dependencies out of your control
- the anxiety you feel that, first at the beginner & intermediate levels when stacking approaches, and then anxiety/expectations during the phases (number close/text/date/date again maybe/bang/will she bang again/juggle plates etc)
- the stress you put on yourself when you desire to improve badly and don't meet your expectations
- the many nights contemplating the almost-bangs or the ones that did not happen
- the periods of regret you feel for not making the right move (be it approach, escalate, close - anything)

The payoff is incredible but the effort is heavy. This makes us all animals living in a heightened state of awareness and alertness. Gaming is thinking beyond the surface. It, therefore, puts you in heightened emotional states.

B7s - if you review your posts over the last month, you'll notice periods of increasing euphoria - definitely culminating in the epic austin trip, but as you fly higher and expect certain outcomes, the 'fall's or times when things do not turn out the way you expect, affect you deeper...leading to burn out from heavy expectations.

I would say - you have to self-regulate and try and stay even by also focusing energy in pursuits that are fun - mountain climbing, river rafting, whatever, while you continue the pursuit of gaming excellence. You seem like an emotional dude who likes to feel and enjoy the moment and experience, which is awesome, but it also means you are experiencing negative emotions deeply as well

Summary:
- try and not put unrealistically high demands on self
- find high-impact, stress-relief outlets
- manage your gaming schedule, don't let it become everything

A lot of people would love to be in your shoes. Don't forget to be grateful and remember to control game, don't let it control you.

(03-31-2015 09:55 PM)Ingocnito Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 05:59 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Having this recurrent problem for a while, I'm finally decided to look at it.

I'm situational alpha at both martial arts and dance class. Girls love practicing with me and I also spit game at them. Often, I try to isolate girls that show IOIs and try to escalate. They either don't let me or flake. I next them. Then, as I stopped talking to them and train with them, they start making this baby face and tell me "You didn't work with me today!/why are you not working with me today!"

I would then re-engage and try to isolate/escalate again. Again no luck. I next them for good for being time wasters. They come nagging again... Happen like every class now, it's annoying.

Ya all think my assertion is correct that these are simply time wasters who want to use me for my skills? Or should I have kept on gaming?

I have had a few girls do this to me at the gym. They always were ones with steady boyfriends. I chalk it up to attention whoring. Bitches want to feel like they're wanted wherever they go nowadays.

Once you pass their threshold of attention, and their gas tank is full, often they'll start the ignoring avoidance cycle all over again.

I have however, essentially cornered a few and been so bold and aggressive they know I'd rather fuck them than fill their adoration tank with more fuel. Sure it get's me mentally clumped in with the other "sick pigs" who only want sex.. but hell, my time is more important than that.

So interesting, and becoming more and more common now a days. Last night, while having dinner solo at the bar of a restaurant, I opened a lizard on her laptop working on some incredibly important project she just had to do and make sure everyone was aware of as well. She had headphones on but kept glancing over. I waited till she took off her ridiculously-sized headphones and opened her with some useless elderly chat and situational questions. As soon as she got validated that I opened, she went back to her bs.

Now, it could have been my opening game but I'm pretty sure it was an attention play. Later that night I was wondering if its better to not give them the satisfaction and validation or make the move and not worry about the outcome. After thinking about it, I decided a nuclear cocky/funny neg to open will not give her the validation she needs, but then you run the risk of poisoning what could have been an actual, pure experience with real IOIs. I guess as you get better you get a better sense of the type of girl you are dealing with and execute accordingly.

(03-31-2015 09:55 PM)Ingocnito Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 05:59 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Having this recurrent problem for a while, I'm finally decided to look at it.

I'm situational alpha at both martial arts and dance class. Girls love practicing with me and I also spit game at them. Often, I try to isolate girls that show IOIs and try to escalate. They either don't let me or flake. I next them. Then, as I stopped talking to them and train with them, they start making this baby face and tell me "You didn't work with me today!/why are you not working with me today!"

I would then re-engage and try to isolate/escalate again. Again no luck. I next them for good for being time wasters. They come nagging again... Happen like every class now, it's annoying.

Ya all think my assertion is correct that these are simply time wasters who want to use me for my skills? Or should I have kept on gaming?

I have had a few girls do this to me at the gym. They always were ones with steady boyfriends. I chalk it up to attention whoring. Bitches want to feel like they're wanted wherever they go nowadays.

Once you pass their threshold of attention, and their gas tank is full, often they'll start the ignoring avoidance cycle all over again.

I have however, essentially cornered a few and been so bold and aggressive they know I'd rather fuck them than fill their adoration tank with more fuel. Sure it get's me mentally clumped in with the other "sick pigs" who only want sex.. but hell, my time is more important than that.

I flat out ignore those thirsty bitches, one moved her workout on a bench next to me. Straight up move my body away from her and finished my set.

These girls make it so damn obvious.

SI swear my dick can't say no.

The 19 year old black girl with the hard 8 body came over, the one that got mad monday. She's growing out her hair, making her look cuter, I'd probably rate her an 8 overall after a review (only in lools)

We had a pretty intense sex session, then she lingered around, I also dropped hints i wont be around the next few weeks.

We ended up banging again, I'm thinking about what I eluded to earlier, about cutting the cord.

I gotta next this girl before things get bad and I keep leading her on.

Despite the sex being great, she isn't as chill as my main, also hearing her talk about certain things make her look....unintelligent.

That's my rant for the night, onto better girls.

(04-01-2015 02:31 AM)kaotic Wrote:  SI swear my dick can't say no.

The 19 year old black girl with the hard 8 body came over, the one that got mad monday. She's growing out her hair, making her look cuter, I'd probably rate her an 8 overall after a review (only in lools)

We had a pretty intense sex session, then she lingered around, I also dropped hints i wont be around the next few weeks.

We ended up banging again, I'm thinking about what I eluded to earlier, about cutting the cord.

I gotta next this girl before things get bad and I keep leading her on.

Despite the sex being great, she isn't as chill as my main, also hearing her talk about certain things make her look....unintelligent.

That's my rant for the night, onto better girls.

I feel you on that one man. I've got a plate I've been banging for 5 months now and the sex has been great but she's just not that attractive or fun to hang around with. I really need to next her but I feel bad...

(04-01-2015 03:53 AM)Roardog Wrote:  I feel you on that one man. I've got a plate I've been banging for 5 months now and the sex has been great but she's just not that attractive or fun to hang around with. I really need to next her but I feel bad...

I wouldn't feel bad at all, matter of fact I teased her about being dramatic and asked what I would I do if I dipped out on her.

She said "I'd just be like ok whatever"

I just had a problem letting go of a nice piece of pussy, but with this one I know it's done, it's easier for me to next a girl nowadays.

(03-25-2015 10:34 AM)kaotic Wrote:  The next time I bang my plates I'm going to go silent on them. I'll keep a log and we'll see how things turn out.

We've had a conversation about chasing plates or following up with them.

Gauging there interest and see what happens when you go radio silent.

Here is my 3 plate sample:

The Slut Bondage Girl- banged on a Thursday, she texted me the next morning about red marks on her ass. (She's being nexted because she's low quality)

The hard 8 bodied Black Girl - Spoke last Thursday, she blew up on me Monday morning, banged Tuesday night. (She's being nexted soon based on how she's a bit annoying and unintelligent. Shame, her body and the sex were good.)

The Blondie booty - Banged on a Sunday, she just texted me this morning saying I'm bad luck since she's working on Easter. (So far she's a keeper, dig her midwest accent and personality)

This of course doesn't include my main LTR, other girls I'm pipe-lining this week as well. I've got 2 girls who are consistently texting me immediately back with multiple texts also.

Was out with a HB8 last night and she said something about smoking and gave a face to me like she didn't like smokers and they were gross. So I was like, "I smoke." Just to see the reaction...

She ends up patting my pants/dick for my pack of cigs (left them in the car) and didn't believe me bc my teeth are white. Then she comes out and says, "well... I actually bought a pack last week". Got the K close and I am going to a beer festival Saturday, feel confident about this one. Just think it's funny how her Attitude changed so quickly lol

What a weird night. Went out with a french Couchsurfer and 2 german backpackers; was kind of hopeful that one of the Germans was into it but I wasn't holding my breath. It ticked past midnight and they all wanted to go to bed so I said fuck it, see you guys, I'm staying at the club.

2 min later I struck up a conversation with a girl at the bar and had major déjà vu. She assured me that she didn't know me but once I took off my brand new nerd glasses it all fell into place (she was a girl that I knew from the dog park). She explained that she and her partner of 4 years had decided on a parting of ways in the future but her body language suggested that she was available now. I had to play it pretty chill as another guy from the dog park was there but she was receptive to kino the whole time.

We eventually left together and made out after she called a taxi. It got a bit hot and heavy but the fucking taxi turned up which killed my chances. She texted me moments later saying that she wished she'd stayed. I said she could come over but it was never going to eventuate into anything by that stage.

How should I have responded to that text? What's the best way to convert such a situation into a future bang?

(04-01-2015 12:55 PM)Soaked Wrote:  What a weird night. Went out with a french Couchsurfer and 2 german backpackers; was kind of hopeful that one of the Germans was into it but I wasn't holding my breath. It ticked past midnight and they all wanted to go to bed so I said fuck it, see you guys, I'm staying at the club.

2 min later I struck up a conversation with a girl at the bar and had major déjà vu. She assured me that she didn't know me but once I took off my brand new nerd glasses it all fell into place (she was a girl that I knew from the dog park). She explained that she and her partner of 4 years had decided on a parting of ways in the future but her body language suggested that she was available now. I had to play it pretty chill as another guy from the dog park was there but she was receptive to kino the whole time.

We eventually left together and made out after she called a taxi. It got a bit hot and heavy but the fucking taxi turned up which killed my chances. She texted me moments later saying that she wished she'd stayed. I said she could come over but it was never going to eventuate into anything by that stage.

How should I have responded to that text? What's the best way to convert such a situation into a future bang?

When you were leaving together why didn't you just tell her to forget the taxi and come back to your place to hang out? You would of course ask her this before doing any making out.

I suggested such things but she was very fixated on getting a taxi home. I certainly know that I could have played that better and maybe got a different outcome but she was still in the 4 year LTR mindset.

I'm more interested to know ideas on how I can convert in the future with her as I know it will be an uphill battle once she wakes up and has all sorts of regrets.

(04-01-2015 12:56 AM)LAX Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 09:55 PM)Ingocnito Wrote:  

(03-31-2015 05:59 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Having this recurrent problem for a while, I'm finally decided to look at it.

I'm situational alpha at both martial arts and dance class. Girls love practicing with me and I also spit game at them. Often, I try to isolate girls that show IOIs and try to escalate. They either don't let me or flake. I next them. Then, as I stopped talking to them and train with them, they start making this baby face and tell me "You didn't work with me today!/why are you not working with me today!"

I would then re-engage and try to isolate/escalate again. Again no luck. I next them for good for being time wasters. They come nagging again... Happen like every class now, it's annoying.

Ya all think my assertion is correct that these are simply time wasters who want to use me for my skills? Or should I have kept on gaming?

I have had a few girls do this to me at the gym. They always were ones with steady boyfriends. I chalk it up to attention whoring. Bitches want to feel like they're wanted wherever they go nowadays.

Once you pass their threshold of attention, and their gas tank is full, often they'll start the ignoring avoidance cycle all over again.

I have however, essentially cornered a few and been so bold and aggressive they know I'd rather fuck them than fill their adoration tank with more fuel. Sure it get's me mentally clumped in with the other "sick pigs" who only want sex.. but hell, my time is more important than that.

So interesting, and becoming more and more common now a days. Last night, while having dinner solo at the bar of a restaurant, I opened a lizard on her laptop working on some incredibly important project she just had to do and make sure everyone was aware of as well. She had headphones on but kept glancing over. I waited till she took off her ridiculously-sized headphones and opened her with some useless elderly chat and situational questions. As soon as she got validated that I opened, she went back to her bs.

Now, it could have been my opening game but I'm pretty sure it was an attention play. Later that night I was wondering if its better to not give them the satisfaction and validation or make the move and not worry about the outcome. After thinking about it, I decided a nuclear cocky/funny neg to open will not give her the validation she needs, but then you run the risk of poisoning what could have been an actual, pure experience with real IOIs. I guess as you get better you get a better sense of the type of girl you are dealing with and execute accordingly.

I think I'll try one of 2 things next time this obviously happens:

1) If it's at a gym and they enter my space for the attention whoring I'll say:"You've entered my space, are you planning to add value or just attempt to distract me?" Literally blurt out the game-play right at them and see wtf they say. Just for kicks.

2) If it's a situation like girl you mentioned working on an "important project" (why the fuck are you working on an important project at a bar/restaurant anyways, try a library, home, or apartment?!).. then I'll walk up to them after continued eye shots and open my mouth as if I'm about to say something, maintain eye contact and say:"Oh never mind, smirk" while still maintaining eye contact, and see their reaction.

Sure might be lost opportunities to escalate from opener, and seemingly squeamish, but it's kind of like throwing in their face you know their routine, and what they're thinking before they even have a chance to predictably react.

Far be it from me to "disturb" the angel who keeps throwing me eyes, and anguish her by removing her precious ear buds to be upfront instead of an attention whoring tease.

(03-26-2015 03:37 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  I would strongly suggest to check out Gio's interview on Christian McQueen's podcast.

I know it's this chill vibe that allows him to be so successful with women.

Very disarming and fun but the heart of an assassin lurks below

Exactly! You described my gaming personality perfectly!

Being chill and fun disarms them.. But, the key, like you said, is that I am aware of all her little psycho-sexual clues. The eye contact, the body language, the tone of voice, the choice of words, etc.

As far as getting girls, "street smarts" are often more valuable than "book smarts".

(03-30-2015 07:14 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  I am starting to see a lot of darkness in the game.


To me there is a stress around all this and I can't quite figure out how to handle it yet.

Banging more girls does not equal more happiness. There is a "point of diminishing returns".

For you, at this point, it should not be about the QUALITY of bangs, not quantity.

Bang on your terms. Only approach girls that your really like, approach in ways and at times that are convenient for you, only do dates that you are really into, only have sex in ways that are exciting for you.

Be more willing to walk away from girls/bangs if they are not on your terms.

You have given everything to "game".. Now, it's time to give to yourself.

---

Have you ever heard the story about the young bull and the old bull..?

They are standing on a mountain looking down at a flock of females.

The young bull says -- "lets RUN down there and fuck one of them".

The old bull replies -- "lets WALK down there and fuck them all".

Stop trying so hard, don't be in a rush, slow down and focus on having fun.

(04-02-2015 07:53 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(03-30-2015 07:14 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  I am starting to see a lot of darkness in the game.


To me there is a stress around all this and I can't quite figure out how to handle it yet.

For you, at this point, it should not be about the QUALITY of bangs, not quantity.

Opps..

I meant to say:

It should be about QUALITY of bangs, not quantity.

Part of the game that I am really learning to appreciate is to put my feelings/wants ahead of the girl I am gaming. Feels good to be selfish.

Got a new bang tonight, she kept calling me a rebel... I was being myself. Never had a girl call me that before. She was doing 90% on the conversating and we only watched the movie for 10 mins before we banged. Overall, great night. Got 2 dates lined up on Saturday, one in the day and one at night.. Both blondes, should be fun.

Quote:Bang on your terms. Only approach girls that your really like, approach in ways and at times that are convenient for you, only do dates that you are really into, only have sex in ways that are exciting for you.

Be more willing to walk away from girls/bangs if they are not on your terms.

I think Gio could not have spoken truer words.

Ive been thinking about this for a while and I think that a lot of guys settle for pussy that they don't inherently want, but take it, because they feel thats the best they can get.

I think that they only way you win is if you are prepared and willing to lose.

My goals for this year have just been for me to only approach girls I like.

It sounds stupid but i used to just approach any girl i though i could get with.

Since doing this, ive found that it's been easier to talk to cutier girls

i am not intimidated by these girls because ive made it a habit to only approach pretty girls.

now some may say that by only approaching pretty girls that im "lifting far beyond my means" but i say if I want a pretty girl I have to approach....pretty girls.

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Gio also made a point about walking away from girls/bangs that are not on your terms.

Im a big fan of calling girls on there bluffs.

If i ask a girl for her number and she says " why dont you leave and ill give it to you later"

Ill get up right then and dip.

there have been times when ive done that and the girl has come and found me after i left her.

Ive learned that by being willing to lose i actually win.

Driving Away

Matched a 20 year old whatever girl on Tinder, she seemed pretty into me. I'd say she was an alleged 6.5

Local about 30 minutes away from my pad.

Got her number in about 6 messages.

She seemed pretty cool over text then I call her, standard procedure.

Got her to send a selfie which was pretty cute.

She was trying to sell herself so hard as being a sassy bitch. She seemed a bit annoying and immature.

I handled it by being being more of an asshole than her and played it cocky funny.

She suggested we go watch a movie, I laughed and said that's retarded to first meet up. We'd meet over coffee see how we vibed first.

I planned it to be right down the street from my house.

She started sort of making excuses how she's not home, she's doing laundry and doesn't know when she could be back.

I told figure it out and hung up.

She called me late at 11, I ignored it.

Follow up with this the next day:
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Told her she can make up for it tonight, I just needed a simple yes or no answer. She said "i'll see"

She wanted to call me, I told her I'm working she can text, she "liked talking to you" so I told her smart assedly "I'll see"

I reaffirm we're meeting up, and asked her. I then said that I made up my mind for her.

She said "well", wakes up from a nap texts me. I call her back after I get off work, she's being a bitch and sassy again.

She asks me to pick her up, to which I say "what are your broke or car less ?" that shut her up real quick and she changed the subject.

I finally cut her off saying I just need a yes or no answer, I'm not going to waste my time. She starts getting bitchy, I tell her to figure it out and I'll call her. I get out of the gym, and call her.


Then this happens:


She tells me she isn't sure about meeting me and that if I'm looking to be friends.I laugh at her and tell her that I'm not about that, she asking if I'm looking for a girl I say "woah" I'm not trying to fall in love blah blah blah.

I told her, "look I'm not looking for that, I'm seeing if we're going to vibe and go from there" she's coming up some other bullshit and I tell her simply.

I say "Nah I'm good, I'm not going to meet up"
she says "really ?"
I say "Yeah, I'd rather spend my time with a girl whose actually interest, I'll talk to you later"

-CLICK-

She texts me a few minutes later:

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YES, I could've handled the "friend" part better.
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At this point I basically am telling her fuck off or meet up.

I had nothing to do that night so I said fuck it, zero date bang.


The meetup

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She lags, shows up, walks to my car, I lock the doors to fuck with her.

She gets in....she isn't good looking at all and chubbier in person.

I hesitate and start driving, since the coffee place is closed I tell we should check out this cool fountain the next plaza over.

My dick tells me no as we drive around the parking lot so I say "you know what we should drive separate and meet there." She agrees and I drop her off at her car.

I mumble under my breath as she closes the door "fuck that shit"

I drive away, and text her this:
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TL;DR
Super stuck up try hard 5 thought her shit didn't stink, left her burned.

Time wasted: 30 minutes
Distant Traveled: Less than a mile
Money Spent: Less than a dollar in gas
The look on the bitches face when I left her at her car: PRICELESS




Hindsight: I know some say it might of all been a waste of time, but I felt like this bitch needed a reality check and get rejected. Realize she can't any man she wants out there.

This would of been a hate fuck if she was attractive enough.

However this was a hate flake

Well played Kaotic. Funny I'm finding a handful of my Tinder dates have some element of pre-fighting going on since these bitches have propped up egos from all their matches and male attention. Not quality flirtatiousness with shit tests, just true elevation of their self-image and worth beyond what it should be. Even ones I've fucked a few times.

I had one I was bangin for a few months really start layin into me for idiosyncrasies of mine she suddenly "didn't like" and "had to bring up to correct if we were to continue seeing each other."

In a round about way I said:"Who the fuck are you to tell me what to change about myself when you're not nearly all that?" Of course when I was fucking her she said I was better than 99% of the guys she'd been with, then I dumped her and her only retort was "Oh well the sex wasn't all that." Yea bitch, yea.. textbook ego defense.

This chick that I've been banging (early 20's solid 8) tells me that she really wants to try going to a sex party. Says "her friend" went to one of those with a bf and that it was a lot of fun, with people fucking on couches in the venue and swapping partners. Sounds like something from Kubrick's eyes wide shut shit, plus I always thought these things tend to attract older swinger type crowd. I'm in a large city in the States but still concerned I might run into someone I know. If I do decide to try it, I'd probably do it in another city. So I'm curious if any of you guys went to one of these parties and what your experience has been like?

(04-03-2015 02:49 AM)Ingocnito Wrote:  Well played Kaotic. Funny I'm finding a handful of my Tinder dates have some element of pre-fighting going on since these bitches have propped up egos from all their matches and male attention. Not quality flirtatiousness with shit tests, just true elevation of their self-image and worth beyond what it should be. Even ones I've fucked a few times.

I had one I was bangin for a few months really start layin into me for idiosyncrasies of mine she suddenly "didn't like" and "had to bring up to correct if we were to continue seeing each other."

In a round about way I said:"Who the fuck are you to tell me what to change about myself when you're not nearly all that?" Of course when I was fucking her she said I was better than 99% of the guys she'd been with, then I dumped her and her only retort was "Oh well the sex wasn't all that." Yea bitch, yea.. textbook ego defense.

Oh this bitch consistently shit tested me and challenging me, I had to be an asshole to knock her down a few points, the fact she suggested I pick her up made me scoff. She feigned being offended but she knew she wasn't having her way with me.

The fact that she read that last text message, didn't even call me or text me pissed off that I ditched her shows the shame in how she got caught and that she got reality checked.

(04-03-2015 10:46 AM)wagmydog Wrote:  This chick that I've been banging (early 20's solid 8) tells me that she really wants to try going to a sex party. Says "her friend" went to one of those with a bf and that it was a lot of fun, with people fucking on couches in the venue and swapping partners. Sounds like something from Kubrick's eyes wide shut shit, plus I always thought these things tend to attract older swinger type crowd. I'm in a large city in the States but still concerned I might run into someone I know. If I do decide to try it, I'd probably do it in another city. So I'm curious if any of you guys went to one of these parties and what your experience has been like?

Home for easter and this chick from back in the day wants to hang out

she was cute but chubby back in the day but gas seriously blimped out recently

thing is she has hot friends

I pray to the poon gods her friends are hot and she doesn't get me so drunk I go for the layup with a manatee