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It was my classmate's bday so he threw a party at his place. He may have invited every single girl in the bulding (student dorm) to the party as there was dozens of international students, mostly 19-20 year old French girls. One of them used a sightly derrogary term to describe Portuguese so I kept thinking I had to make her pay. Used the slamming down technique and we started making out. She lived a couple floors below so we went to her place for some more privacy, whipped out the chouriço and got titty fucked. Came back to party kept gaming and got 2 numbers.
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How far out do you guys schedule a date?

Looks like the girl I banged on Friday is open to meet again.

I'm going on a short trip this week and am thinking of texting her Monday evening to set up plans for the weekend when I get back. Too long time?

She's an 8 (snatched her off Tinder) and probably gets macked on 24/7, so I want to strike while the iron is hot.
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Hanging out with one of my plates last night (She's 19 and I'm 29) and she was telling me about this friend of hers brother who has had a crush on her for a while. They were at a 21st and her friend was putting in a good word for his brother to which she flatly replied she wasn't interested. Her friend then pressed her as to why she was banging me and not interested in his brother or any of the other guys in their group to which she replied "He's Alpha, the rest of you are Beta."

Hahaha, all her friends hate me, it's fantastic.
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Having a real problem with ego/pride lately. Kind of touched on it before, but after a certain point of improvement and development, your confidence obviously increases. You have experiences from which to draw from in regards to how women work, you're in the process of putting together your best self - you start internalizing the belief that's often kicked around on here - that you're the prize.

This past week and change my phone has been dry as fuck. I believe I was the last to send a text to all the women I'm currently talking to. I have a very tough time accepting that some texts will just go ignored and you have to take the L and reopen them. I really don't care for this as it sends a dangerous message. That she'll only respond to texts that she deems interesting enough to respond to. You're now accepting her frame. Almost like you're there for her entertainment. "Oh, that text didn't do it for ya? Okay no problem, I got others, how bout this one?"

These are not girls with whom I have no rapport. I have a solid foundation of chemistry with all. I know the options for women know no bounds, but fuck. At a certain point, she's gotta say "yes I have all these guys hitting me up, but the guy I really want to talk to is (your name here) - let me text him."

For whatever reason, seems most of us go through peaks and valleys. You have all girls hitting you up at the same time, or none at all. Just really annoying. Especially since, as I mentioned, you have internalized that you're boss as fuck and women should be climbing over each other for a shot at you. How do you accept that as your reality and then accept women who ignore texts and require reopenings?

I've been in a pissy mood for months now when it comes to game but I still keep one foot in and one foot out. I really don't want to go through a phase where I blow up every lead and start from scratch. Trying to salvage what I can here.
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(03-15-2015 06:20 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Having a real problem with ego/pride lately. Kind of touched on it before, but after a certain point of improvement and development, your confidence obviously increases. You have experiences from which to draw from in regards to how women work, you're in the process of putting together your best self - you start internalizing the belief that's often kicked around on here - that you're the prize.

This past week and change my phone has been dry as fuck. I believe I was the last to send a text to all the women I'm currently talking to. I have a very tough time accepting that some texts will just go ignored and you have to take the L and reopen them. I really don't care for this as it sends a dangerous message. That she'll only respond to texts that she deems interesting enough to respond to. You're now accepting her frame. Almost like you're there for her entertainment. "Oh, that text didn't do it for ya? Okay no problem, I got others, how bout this one?"

These are not girls with whom I have no rapport. I have a solid foundation of chemistry with all. I know the options for women know no bounds, but fuck. At a certain point, she's gotta say "yes I have all these guys hitting me up, but the guy I really want to talk to is (your name here) - let me text him."

For whatever reason, seems most of us go through peaks and valleys. You have all girls hitting you up at the same time, or none at all. Just really annoying. Especially since, as I mentioned, you have internalized that you're boss as fuck and women should be climbing over each other for a shot at you. How do you accept that as your reality and then accept women who ignore texts and require reopenings?

I've been in a pissy mood for months now when it comes to game but I still keep one foot in and one foot out. I really don't want to go through a phase where I blow up every lead and start from scratch. Trying to salvage what I can here.

man i feel ya

My motto for this year is " you win some, you learn some"

sometimes you just gotta learn from what doesn't work out and in that case at times its best if you just flip the chess board and start again from scratch.

it sucks

you have all of these leads that you've established connections with but nobody is biting.

I cant tell you how many times ive deleted numbers in my phone that didn't lead anywhere. Why would I waste my time?

im a valuable man with options

Im giving the girl a grand invitation into my dope ass life.

And if she dosen't want to rock with me... cool I'll find a girl who will.

What one girl won't do another one will.

I look at it as though the girl is missing out.

she is missing out on a dope dude that will fuck her good, challenge her mentally, have fun with her, have her back, support her hopes and dreams, protect her, and inspire her for the greater good.

She Fucked up not I

I think once you adopt this mentality, it doesn't matter what she does, its on her.

She threw the old chest away filled with precious diamonds.

Whatever she does... my toes keep tapping, my strut gets longer, and my shoulders are pulled back even further. You know why....

Because a woman does not define my happiness, I do.
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(03-15-2015 06:20 PM)Mister X Wrote:  I've been in a pissy mood for months now when it comes to game but I still keep one foot in and one foot out. I really don't want to go through a phase where I blow up every lead and start from scratch. Trying to salvage what I can here.

Perhaps this could be your problem. Being in a pissy mood could be rubbing off on these girls even if you can't see it yourself. I often find people notice the mood I'm in even when I don't think I'm showing it.

By the way I'm not claiming to be an expert by any means, in fact I'm still extremely new to this whole game/red pill thinking thing. ^ That was just an observation.
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(03-15-2015 09:28 PM)knottyj Wrote:  
(03-15-2015 06:20 PM)Mister X Wrote:  I've been in a pissy mood for months now when it comes to game but I still keep one foot in and one foot out. I really don't want to go through a phase where I blow up every lead and start from scratch. Trying to salvage what I can here.

Perhaps this could be your problem. Being in a pissy mood could be rubbing off on these girls even if you can't see it yourself. I often find people notice the mood I'm in even when I don't think I'm showing it.

By the way I'm not claiming to be an expert by any means, in fact I'm still extremely new to this whole game/red pill thinking thing. ^ That was just an observation.

Maybe if this was dealing with in-person interactions, but I'm speaking about text only. I mean fuck, I can't get them to answer texts at the moment, let alone generate enough interest to get them to come out.

I don't show anything via text that would lead them to believe that I have an attitude or a negative energy.

It's basically them ignoring texts and me not understanding why. And these are girls who I've had solid chemistry with. Flirting, joking, light hearted text anytime we talk, no drama, etc.

Like I said - as someone who sees themselves as the prize, as a catch, like we all should believe - this is mind boggling.

Even in successes this shit is work. My mantra these past few months have been "it should not be this hard." And I stand by this statement. Sometimes I can only laugh at how ridiculous gaming some of these girls really is.

The girls that make things easy for you, most of the time, are girls you're not even attracted to. The ones you really want, at least in my case - is fucking unreal. It's a scrappy fight every time.
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(03-15-2015 06:20 PM)Mister X Wrote:  This past week and change my phone has been dry as fuck. I believe I was the last to send a text to all the women I'm currently talking to. I have a very tough time accepting that some texts will just go ignored and you have to take the L and reopen them. I really don't care for this as it sends a dangerous message. That she'll only respond to texts that she deems interesting enough to respond to. You're now accepting her frame. Almost like you're there for her entertainment. "Oh, that text didn't do it for ya? Okay no problem, I got others, how bout this one?"

These are not girls with whom I have no rapport. I have a solid foundation of chemistry with all. I know the options for women know no bounds, but fuck. At a certain point, she's gotta say "yes I have all these guys hitting me up, but the guy I really want to talk to is (your name here) - let me text him."

Yeah, but have you banged them?

In my experience, unless a girl is very keen, pre-bang you have to open them.
If once you've initiated an exchange they don't reply or their responses are disinterested/delayed I understand your frustration and I feel the same way. But as has been well documented, even when you've had a great date with a girl with lots of laughter and chemistry, 50% of the time you still won't get a second date.

However, once you've banged them it flips a bit and the ones who want to bang you again will start contacting you first. Of course the flip side to that is that the others will most likely drop off.

(03-15-2015 10:03 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Even in successes this shit is work. My mantra these past few months have been "it should not be this hard." And I stand by this statement. Sometimes I can only laugh at how ridiculous gaming some of these girls really is.

The girls that make things easy for you, most of the time, are girls you're not even attracted to. The ones you really want, at least in my case - is fucking unreal. It's a scrappy fight every time.

I don't understand that mantra, nothing good in life comes easy. You have to work for it, so why would getting quality girls be any different?

The girls you want, are the girls every guys wants, therefore tonnes of competition for their attention.

Also in the end, girls will happily complain about being single while having a tonne of suitors but not making any time in their lives to see them.
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(03-15-2015 10:07 PM)Roardog Wrote:  Yeah, but have you banged them?

In my experience, unless a girl is very keen, pre-bang you have to open them.
If once you've initiated an exchange they don't reply or their responses are disinterested/delayed I understand your frustration and I feel the same way. But as has been well documented, even when you've had a great date with a girl with lots of laughter and chemistry, 50% of the time you still won't get a second date.

However, once you've banged them it flips a bit and the ones who want to bang you again will start contacting you first. Of course the flip side to that is that the others will most likely drop off.

Well that's part of this cycle of frustration.

Phase 1: Find a girl (via social circle or tinder most recently)
Phase 2: Get number/set up date/develop rapport in the mean time via text
Phase 3: Before getting the chance to meet up and run real life game - they ignore a text I feel should have been answered. A text with substance. Not some bullshit "hey what's up" kind of text.

It is here where I'm put off. Because only 2 outcomes now remain, as girls rarely, if ever, initiate.

1.) I can take the L, accepting the complete lack of respect of her ignoring my text (some may not see it as a big deal but I take it as disrespect. Knowing how girls are glued to their phone, and internalizing the belief that she should be happy as fuck anytime she sees my name pop up on her phone - it is disrespectful. She's going out of her way to not answer the text). Which, as I said before, gives into her frame and creates the reality where it's acceptable for her to pick and choose what texts to respond to based on how she's feeling at the moment, because there are no repercussions. We always have to be the cool dude that doesn't get phased by little shit like that.

2.) Take her ignoring my text as disinterest and move on.

I don't care for either of those options.
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(03-15-2015 06:58 PM)Sketness Wrote:  [
man i feel ya

My motto for this year is " you win some, you learn some"

sometimes you just gotta learn from what doesn't work out and in that case at times its best if you just flip the chess board and start again from scratch.

it sucks

you have all of these leads that you've established connections with but nobody is biting.

I cant tell you how many times ive deleted numbers in my phone that didn't lead anywhere. Why would I waste my time?

im a valuable man with options

Im giving the girl a grand invitation into my dope ass life.

And if she dosen't want to rock with me... cool I'll find a girl who will.

What one girl won't do another one will.

I look at it as though the girl is missing out.

she is missing out on a dope dude that will fuck her good, challenge her mentally, have fun with her, have her back, support her hopes and dreams, protect her, and inspire her for the greater good.

She Fucked up not I

I think once you adopt this mentality, it doesn't matter what she does, its on her.

She threw the old chest away filled with precious diamonds.

Whatever she does... my toes keep tapping, my strut gets longer, and my shoulders are pulled back even further. You know why....

Because a woman does not define my happiness, I do.

That's what I'm saying man. I'm still trying to figure this shit out. I can't be the only guy dealing with this. You have it in your head that you're high quality. When they don't react in the way you expect given the value you believe you have - how do you handle it? That's my problem. I need to be handling this shit better.
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@Mister X

Quote:Even in successes this shit is work. My mantra these past few months have been "it should not be this hard." And I stand by this statement. Sometimes I can only laugh at how ridiculous gaming some of these girls really is.

Ive found your problem...

you are coming at this with male logic and thats where you are getting frustrated.

Male logic is directly goal driven: I want to do X so I must do Z to accomplish X.

It is ingrained in our DNA as males to communicate directly. The human race would not have made it to 2015 if males did not communicate precise instructions to each other.

Females by nature on the other hand, have not had to communicate with each other to survive.

Thus, women operate by feeling

feelings often are not based in reason, they are subject to sudden change depending on the situation.

So for us as males we have to understand this and adapt accordingly.
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Say I want to hang out with you Mister X

As a male id text you " hey Mister X down to kick it on tuesday?"

and you'd text me back within a reasonable time frame either: yea im down or naw man another time

From there i could easily identify weather I sill want to continue trying hanging out with you.

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Women don't operate like this.

If you pose a direct question to them it makes their brains make a logical decision not based in feeling. Which is foreign to them.

Thus, to get the most out of interactions you need to bring more feeling into conversations.

example:

In person;

-Ask her how she feels about certain topic. Mention how it makes you feel.

- Use a lot of descriptive language when describing a story or an experience.

-Describe how a certain situation made you feel and then relate it back to her if she has ever felt the same way. Listen to her and repeat the same thing back to her

Example;

Male: I felt a dark grey empty void when my dog died, it was as though a routine that I had grown to love has suddenly vanished from existence, Have you ever felt this way?

Female; yea I felt the same way when my parrot died, he meant so much to me my mom got it for me when I was 14.

Male; I've been there, it seems as though your parrot meant a lot to you, it being a gift from your mom, and when it died it must have left you feeling dark inside as though something routine in you life had vanished

Female; yea i totally felt that way!!!

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You can see above where just a small change of language can make her tap into her feels.

When she taps into her feelings you are now a package deal with that feeling.

now whenever she gets a text from you she will think back to how she felt at that time with you

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Texting

- use snapchat to send pics.

By sending pics she will feel more connected to you than if you just texted her

- Send pics of cool shit you are doing. example ( sunsets, a plate of food, cool scenery)

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I think Gio has said it before but you have to engage these girls at all levels visual, audio, sensual, smell

Good luck I hope this helps
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(03-15-2015 06:20 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Having a real problem with ego/pride lately. Kind of touched on it before, but after a certain point of improvement and development, your confidence obviously increases. You have experiences from which to draw from in regards to how women work, you're in the process of putting together your best self - you start internalizing the belief that's often kicked around on here - that you're the prize.

This past week and change my phone has been dry as fuck. I believe I was the last to send a text to all the women I'm currently talking to. I have a very tough time accepting that some texts will just go ignored and you have to take the L and reopen them. I really don't care for this as it sends a dangerous message. That she'll only respond to texts that she deems interesting enough to respond to. You're now accepting her frame. Almost like you're there for her entertainment. "Oh, that text didn't do it for ya? Okay no problem, I got others, how bout this one?"

These are not girls with whom I have no rapport. I have a solid foundation of chemistry with all. I know the options for women know no bounds, but fuck. At a certain point, she's gotta say "yes I have all these guys hitting me up, but the guy I really want to talk to is (your name here) - let me text him."

For whatever reason, seems most of us go through peaks and valleys. You have all girls hitting you up at the same time, or none at all. Just really annoying. Especially since, as I mentioned, you have internalized that you're boss as fuck and women should be climbing over each other for a shot at you. How do you accept that as your reality and then accept women who ignore texts and require reopenings?

I've been in a pissy mood for months now when it comes to game but I still keep one foot in and one foot out. I really don't want to go through a phase where I blow up every lead and start from scratch. Trying to salvage what I can here.

This has been a hard pill for me to swallow, but you're not in control. You can't control how individual women respond or act. The only thing you can control is the sample size, such that you have more options.

But yeah, my whole dating life, going back to highschool, has been ebbs and flows... Flings, LTR, flings, drought, refresh/repeat. Also, dropping all of your plates might be the best thing to do if your not happy. I did this back on Vday, despite the risk to my sex life, its helped my confidence.
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@sketness - Funny you say that. As soon as I hit send on my last post I had an aha moment. I thought to myself, I'm thinking like a man. We communicate differently. Still though, understanding their behavior and accepting their behavior are two different things. I get the former, but it doesn't help me accept the latter any easier.

@ordinary - I really do believe we're in an era where you need to pull all the stops to get a SNL. It seems like women get bored much easier. We've seen many men have a successful first date only for the girl to go ghost on them. It gets fucking real out here sometimes man. I may have to blow the whole thing up. It sucks but what are you gonna do.
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Great answer by Skeet. Rep worthy.

X - The thing is enns&flows are a part f this but gaming is intrinsically an emotional journey. There is nothing quite like closing a sale or banging a girl and you become invested in the outcome even though it's not in your control.

You can have the sickest game and the best logistics but 1 slip up out of rhythm,1 bad text and it's over. The potential to f up over the course of journey leading to bang presents itself at every SECOND.

My point is - don't get yourself down for feeling frustrated. Allow yourself to feel that. But the real warriors wake up the next day ready to fight, ready to improve. Additionally, find something that makes you happy and interests you, gym, hamburgers, French new wave cinema, scrap booking - whatever it is - indulge in that interest, especially when the road is rocky because it stabilizes the emotions and makes you feel better.

Final 2 things IMO is - you mention social circle/tinder. Tinder is paradise for lizards brother. You compete against the world of 9/10s yes swiping everything. Social circle game requires high familiarity and a lot of girls are conscious of their reputation. This also limits your pool.

Id say:
- focus on the attraction building...r u in that phase long enough?
- increase your pool of availability beyond tinder and social circle. Both if those have low barrier to entry. Push yourself outside the comfort zone - night game, day game, in person approaches where chicks don't know you from adam.

Finally - nothing wrong with taking a couple week off to focus on mental & physical recharging. Gaming can be hard on the psyche, mind and body and sometimes, like any sport, taking some time off helps put things in Perspective

HTH
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Good post Lax. Yeah, I think social circle + dating apps are sort of the safe play. It's basically going with what's in front of you as opposed to going after the ones you really want - the ones that you see walking around malls, beaches, etc. Now that the weather is warming up I really should ramp up my day game. I wonder if I spent the summer working on day game, and approached in mass numbers, what kind of results I'd get.

Thanks everyone. Really helped me clear my head some.
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When I'm with a girl and its going in my favor, I love going above and beyond for her. I take amazingly good care of them - it's completely irrational. It doesn't matter how long I've known them or how quality they are. It's with all of them, so it's definitely not oneitis. Here are some examples:

-Met a voluptuous 21 year old barslut from U of Maryland in DC last weekend, convinced her to leave her friends and come back with me all the way to the friend's apartment I was visiting in VA. She got sick on the way home, so I helped her puke out of the cab. I helped her puke more back at the house. I was more interested in making sure she was OK then banging at this point, so I tucked her in and monitored her for the night. We had a fun convo in the morning and were vibing very well, not that it mattered. All my friends were still sleeping, so I offered to pick up her 2 whore friends from the pair of guys they went home with in DC. I then drove the three of them 45+ minutes home all the way to U of Maryland for free. I knew this was way too nice, but I honestly didn't mind at all.

-Went out with a 23 year old for her bday in NYC this Friday. I've hit it about 5-6 times already. Was more or less her boyfriend for the night, gave her plenty of attention, danced, let her show me off to her friends, then went back to her hotel room and banged. Honestly had a ton of fun from start to finish. Before I left in the morning, she told me she's like to be exclusive. I changed the subject and haven't talked to her since.

-On Saturday, reluctantly met up with a 27 year old and her lame friends for St Pattys day festivities in NYC. I've been FWB for about 4 months. Left early with her and had an amazing, super honest conversation with her for almost 2 hours about how I truly enjoy her company but I'll never date her - she took it very, very well. Drove her 45 mins home to NJ so she wouldn't have to take the train home alone. Banged and drove 45 minutes home. Again, had alot of fun from start to finish. She texted me some emotional stuff in the morning but I basically ignored it.

-On Sunday, went on a day date with a super hot 32 year old. We've already banged a handful of times. We had a great 8 hour day and then she slept over. I offered to pay for practically everything and dropped more money than I wanted to. She told me she's catching feelings.

What's fucked up is that I know my game is tight. Once they are into me, I end up treating them like the best boyfriend ever when we are together. I don't tell them I love them or that they are the only one I'm seeing. After a great date, I fall off the face of the earth until they text me to meet up again.

Some of my beta-provider behaviors are super ingrained into my personality. It's irrational, but I get turned off by the fact that these girls let me treat them so nicely without reciprocating. Not that I would want to be exclusive with any of them anyway...

Only one girl reciprocates the irrational kindness. I really care about her - but I can't be exclusive with her either yet.

No matter how little they deserve it, I want to treat them all well in the moment. I've learned game, but I think I'm too nice to maintain this lifestyle without losing my mind. I really hate letting the girls down.

Can anyone else relate to this? Is better to just one and done them?
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Downside of banging really hot chicks? I'm dreading to see any of my plates now because they all feel so fucking boring. Jesus... Confused
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"not getting girls alone and indoors"

(03-13-2015 05:43 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Of course you figured that out!

I could tell that you are NOT getting girls alone and indoors.

How could I tell?

Because you said you were getting heavy make outs with hot girls.

When hot girls do heavy make outs, they are very close to taking their clothes off... IF, THEY HAVE SOME PRIVACY!

WITHOUT ANY PRIVACY
, taking their clothes off is not an option.

So, if you want these girls to take their clothes off, you must provide them with some privacy!

Making out in the club is not nearly as effective as making out on your couch.

Start crafting dates that focus on getting the girl back to your home.

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(03-15-2015 06:20 PM)Mister X Wrote:  when it comes to game but I still keep one foot in and one foot out.

That is your problem.

You want 100% results but you are only giving 50% effort.

(03-15-2015 10:03 PM)Mister X Wrote:  It's basically them ignoring texts

Post some of your texts and I will tell you why they are ignoring them.

(03-15-2015 10:03 PM)Mister X Wrote:  "it should not be this hard."

You are entitled.

You expect it to be easy.

This is why you are frustrated.

If it was easy, this forum would not exist.

It's not easy. It requires work, trial and error, adjustments, facing your weaknesses, etc.

If you are not willing to put in work, you don't deserve the prize.
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(03-16-2015 01:29 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  You are entitled.

You expect it to be easy.

This is why you are frustrated.

If it was easy, this forum would not exist.

It's not easy. It requires work, trial and error, adjustments, facing your weaknesses, etc.

If you are not willing to put in work, you don't deserve the prize.

Well that's what I'm struggling with. I don't understand how we're taught to believe, think, and act like we're the prize, develop internal confidence that subconsciously dictates our actions and our body language, go through a never ending journey of self improvement to better ourselves in all phases, and then accept when a girl isn't gung-ho to come and fuck your brains out.

What is all the work for? Isn't it theoretically supposed to get easier the more value you acquire?

How do you tell yourself "yeah I'm an awesome fucking dude, but she's not feeling it. Cool."

Because I can't bring myself to that. If I could, I'd save myself a lot of headaches.
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The richest people in the world still have problems, they may not be millionaire problems, they may be billionaire problems.

They all still have problems that no amount of money will fix.

The same is with game.

You can acquire a great amount of currency(game) , but still have problems with girls ( girls not texing back, hard time getting dates ect )

These problems will never go away, the only thing that will change is how you handle said problems.

A billionaire still has to pay taxes like the rest of us.

He still has to pay his workers, invest and take risks with new opportunities like the rest of us.

the only difference is that the billionaire has a safety net of money to make mistakes. If he loses a 3 million on a deal WHO CARES he's got a billion

That my friends is game.

Game is like having a billion dollars and betting $100 on a interaction.

If one $100 interaction falls through WHO CARES YOU HAVE A BILLION DOLLARS

When you understand that the skills you learn in game will allow you to pick and chose from the cream of the crop.

It doesn't matter what one side bet of $100 does, you have a wealth of experience and knowledge to go place another low investment bet.

What do you care your a billionaire.
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Just when you think a date's going good

even if you get a great follow up text.

She can go radio silent for ANY reason.

I thought this one was in the bag for date 2. She never reached out to me after she asked to reschedule a date.

This lead is completely DEAD.

It goes to show ANYTHING can happen in game and obviously as it is...you CAN'T control all the variables.

She could've gotten something from another dude, got prego, got back with her ex, has a BF and was testing the waters, ways too intimidated by me (not good enough).

It's not me, it's HER.

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(03-16-2015 02:04 PM)Mister X Wrote:  I don't understand how we're taught to believe, think, and act like we're the prize, develop internal confidence that subconsciously dictates our actions and our body language, go through a never ending journey of self improvement to better ourselves in all phases, and then accept when a girl isn't gung-ho to come and fuck your brains out.

Let me add to your education and save you some frustration..

Game is like hitting in baseball..

Having a 28% success rate is very good.

Failing only 70% of the time makes you better than most other guys.

You don't understand the math.

Baseball players don't complain because they fail 70% of the time, they understand the math.

Salesmen don't complain because they fail the majority of the time, they understand the math.

Study the history of game, study the analytics of game, study high level playboys, study social-sexual dymanics.

You are frustrated because you are uneducated.

(03-16-2015 02:04 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Isn't it theoretically supposed to get easier the more value you acquire?

No, not necessarily.

This is art just as much as it is science.

It's about how you display your value, communicate your value, etc.

Many times, it's not even about "value", it's about "perceived value".

(03-16-2015 02:04 PM)Mister X Wrote:  How do you tell yourself "yeah I'm an awesome fucking dude, but she's not feeling it. Cool."

Study "Stoic" philosophy.

Study people who have suffered but didn't lose their composure and sense of hope.

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(03-16-2015 02:32 PM)Sketness Wrote:  Game is like having a billion dollars and betting $100 on a interaction.

Mindblown

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(03-16-2015 10:39 AM)The Great Basilisk Wrote:  Downside of banging really hot chicks? I'm dreading to see any of my plates now because they all feel so fucking boring. Jesus... Confused

I've experienced this more recently. If your plates bore you drop them. Don't waste time on them just to feed your ego. Work on $ and hotter chicks instead. Don't settle.

You need to eat that lukewarm bowl of microwave Mac n' Cheese for the 35th time?

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(05-19-2016 12:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  If I talk to 100 19 year old girls, at least one of them is getting fucked!

WestIndianArchie Wrote:Am I reacting to her? No pussy, all problems
Or
Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems
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Great insight Gio.

Man, you guys don't fuck around on this forum.

This place is major league.

The advice you get and the shit you pick up here is invaluable.
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