Post: #4951

(03-22-2015 06:53 PM)redbeard Wrote:  

My main question is why are you flushing condoms? Doesn't that clog the pipes?

I just toss em. Even if a girl finds them, just say you've been jerking off a lot.

IDK I guess I've always flushed them lol. I don't throw out my trash can right away, flush and forget usually works. Honestly, that's EXACTLY what I would've said if she saw the condom. That I jack off with condoms because I don't like being messy or something.

(03-22-2015 06:55 PM)vinman Wrote:  ^^^^^^^ Kaotic is on POINT.
My LTR found some basic bitch jewelry in my bedroom. I was cleaning up and saw it on the floor. I mistakenly put it on my dresser to throw it out. I forgot, and she came in and saw it. I explained it away by saying it was in some clutter that I've been meaning to throw away for the longest and laughed it off. I told I'd get around to throwing it out eventually (didn't want to look like a chump tossing it right then and there. Sign of a guilty man). I finally got around to throwing it out a couple of weeks later, and teased her about not noticing that it was gone.

Yup I also found a wine cork underneath my bed, she raised her eyebrows but didn't think twice. Both the leather Pocahontas fringes and the cork are still on my table. I'll probably throw them out soon lol.

This is the video I sent her the next day lmao:

Post: #4952

This is inspiring. I gotta up my cheating game.

Post: #4953

(03-22-2015 07:21 PM)General Mayhem Wrote:  This is inspiring. I gotta up my cheating game.

Yeah it's cheating, but in my eyes, it's not.

P.S. Nice new avatar

Post: #4954

Yeah. Poker face. You can't look shocked or surprised. You have to act as if it's something completely mundane.

Post: #4955

(03-22-2015 07:23 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(03-22-2015 07:21 PM)General Mayhem Wrote:  This is inspiring. I gotta up my cheating game.

Yeah it's cheating, but in my eyes, it's not.

P.S. Nice new avatar

Ha maybe that's how I need to rationalize it.

And thanks. It is actually pretty fitting. I haven't shaved my chest in about 3 months and my girl loves running her fingers through it. It's straight up primal.

I might have to start wearing my shirts unbuttoned

Post: #4956

Another reason to be OCD clean about your pad.

Post: #4957

(03-22-2015 08:30 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Another reason to be OCD clean about your pad.

Haha you know the story. My girl has done all of my cleaning in the past few weeks.

It would be way easier if I stuck to other blonde girls, but if I brought a brunette home I would have to clean everything. That would be a bitch.

Not to mention that when you pull a bitch's hair during sex it makes her shed more. My bed is full of blonde hairs.

I have realized that the desire to bang more girls has more to do with variety than it does trying to bang hotter girls.

Most of the girls around here aren't hotter than she is, but when I look around I see variety. That draws me in. I'm thinking, "Damn it would be nice to bang a brunette."

Post: #4958

Just bang new pussy on the couch or something? You know you're my dude but you got a live in bitch man, you gotta watch out haha

Post: #4959

(03-22-2015 10:11 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Just bang new pussy on the couch or something? You know you're my dude but you got a live in bitch man, you gotta watch out haha

Wait what ? Damn General, now you've got some BALLS doing that with a live in girlfriend !

Post: #4960

A lot of firsts this week!

It is the first time I've banged 5 new girls in 8 days.

It is the first time I've flaked on a date with a girl.

It is the first time I've really started hanging out with girls that I LIKE. Not just girls I want to bang.

It is the first time I've turned down sex in order to see a different girl I like more, where sex was not guaranteed, and ended up not happening.

It is the first time I've been OK with second dates where sex did not occur.

It is the first time I've turned down a girl that wanted to bang me, in order that I could go back into the night and see if I could do better.

And most importantly....

It is the first time, in a LONG time, that I feel truly happy!

My game is at a point now where I have girls coming at me left and right. They are sweating me, instead of the other way around. I've been operating at 7-nights a week since mid-January, and I'm finally OK with slowing down a little in order to fuck better girls.

...Maybe.

But for real, I'm in a very zen mood the last few days. My game is highly specialized for my own strengths, and I'm killing it this year. I feel really really good about it!

I'm writing this because I want all you new players to read this. All of you lurkers, and guys just getting in to the game. I want you to know that if you work hard, you too will find happiness one day.

This time 3 years ago I hit rock bottom. I had dated a girl for over 6 years, and she left me one day out of the blue. I was absolutely crushed. She was only the 2nd girl I had ever been with. I didn't know any different.

3 years later...and I've lost count of how many girls I have banged. But that part doesn't matter. What matters is that I've gained control over my life, both in terms of sex and lifestyle and confidence and everything else, and never in my wildest dreams did I think I would make it this far.

So, if you're where I was 3 years ago....don't give up. It is possible to find what you want!

I am also feeling very grateful for the first time in a long time. I was thinking that tonight when I had this sweet 23 year old over to make dinner with me. I kept thinking "I am lucky to be able to chill with such a young, open minded, laid back beautiful girl." It really is a cool feeling and I hope I can help other guys here on the forum experience it too.

Post: #4961

Blurred, I'm absolutely stoked your hard work is being redeemed, you're a model of how to look at things positively, and use your strengths to your advantage.

I think well all can get stuck in what can be a negative cycle. (Hell it's happened to me)

Which can be hard to get out of. Whether it's with an ex, plates, a break down in a harem, dry spells, failures on the first date, not getting a second date, this list goeso n.

It truly does prove that given time, hard work, experiences, you can push through and you can win...consistently.

I suggest anyone reading this, check out some of Blurred's accomplishments, learn from him ! I'd rep you again if I could.

And remember, always have a PMA (positive mental attitude).

Post: #4962

Happy to read it Blurred, having abundance sounds awesome. I think this sends a message for the rest of us to continue moving forward and being tenacious in learning and embracing game.

Post: #4963

I need to improve my talking-to-younger-girls game. I blew myself out with a couple mid-20s girls, who were otherwise attracted by making references to shit they didn't understand or know about.

If there are guys experienced with girls 10-15 years younger, how do you relate to them?

I have a 13 yrs younger girl who it hasn't been an issue with, but more and more I'm seeing this now.

Post: #4964

(03-23-2015 02:58 AM)Stun Wrote:  I need to improve my talking-to-younger-girls game. I blew myself out with a couple mid-20s girls, who were otherwise attracted by making references to shit they didn't understand or know about.

If there are guys experienced with girls 10-15 years younger, how do you relate to them?

I have a 13 yrs younger girl who it hasn't been an issue with, but more and more I'm seeing this now.

Experienced similar. Not total blow outs but they caught me off guard and I stumbled pretty bad with a group of 3 girls and just me, they teamed up and broke my frame.

My recovery was so-so, but in reflection, when I did best was keeping it superficial and increasing the sexualization of the interaction. In essence it forced me to double down on the spot. Next time I won't hesitate like I did.

Post: #4965

delete

Post: #4966

Just fucked up a direct library approach . She didn't laugh at any of my jokes plus I wasn't my calm cool collected self . I pulled with trigger way too early and got a IGABF . Her friend was right next to her giggling to .

Post: #4967

(03-23-2015 04:17 AM)Ingocnito Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 02:58 AM)Stun Wrote:  I need to improve my talking-to-younger-girls game. I blew myself out with a couple mid-20s girls, who were otherwise attracted by making references to shit they didn't understand or know about.

If there are guys experienced with girls 10-15 years younger, how do you relate to them?

I have a 13 yrs younger girl who it hasn't been an issue with, but more and more I'm seeing this now.

Experienced similar. Not total blow outs but they caught me off guard and I stumbled pretty bad with a group of 3 girls and just me, they teamed up and broke my frame.

My recovery was so-so, but in reflection, when I did best was keeping it superficial and increasing the sexualization of the interaction. In essence it forced me to double down on the spot. Next time I won't hesitate like I did.

I was thinking it was a frame issue, and your post somewhat confirms it. May have fell into her frame from the start. I fought it and thought I was winning, but apparently not. Rookie mistake I'm going to be aware of here forward.

Post: #4968

Ever get the feeling that some of these girls are only in your life because you continue to make the effort to keep them there?

For example - if you were to not initiate contact with any chicks you know for a whole week - not call, not text, no social media. Just go ghost for a week. How many girls do you think would open you up at some point asking where you've been, or what you're up to, or if you want to see them, etc.

Anyone ever test this for a week? Just for kicks?

Post: #4969

(03-23-2015 06:07 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Ever get the feeling that some of these girls are only in your life because you continue to make the effort to keep them there?

For example - if you were to not initiate contact with any chicks you know for a whole week - not call, not text, no social media. Just go ghost for a week. How many girls do you think would open you up at some point asking where you've been, or what you're up to, or if you want to see them, etc.

Anyone ever test this for a week? Just for kicks?

Yes, only the plates I've banged usually will ping me if I go radio silent.

If I go radio silent on a lead or someone I've just been on one date on, typically, they won't bother hitting me up.

Imagine how many thirsty guys are hitting up girls....even 5's and 6 's.

You'd get lost in the noise, if you've already banged them, you've won already, it's on you if you want to keep playing and banging them.

Unless you've proven your worth and have high SMV and lot's of IOI's girls have a short attentnion span and will lose interest fast.

I'll catch myself not giving a fuck about texting girls only to find that they go radio silent or aren't interested in chilling, once awhile you can restart.

I can tell I'm getting tired of texting girls ever so often before we even hangout.

Post: #4970

(03-23-2015 12:54 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  ...

I call it the elevator feeling I have been feeling lately. Just seeing that your hard work pans out. Knowing that if you keep on the same path and keep working at it things will only get better. You can only stop yourself.

(03-23-2015 06:07 PM)Mister X Wrote:  ..

I'd say for the average plate you have about a week and a half of radio silent before she moves on and is hard to get back into consistent rotation. Plates actually take some work usually see them once a week and be in contact every 3 or 4 days to keep things smooth sailing. I wish girls would be cool with one contact once a month or two and just come bang. I think that has only worked for me with ex-plates, but even then very inconsistently. People move on with their lives.

It'd be awesome to have 30 girls in your phone to text and plan each week out with a different girl each night and it all pans out on a monthly repeating schedule. I think I could go 3 or 4 months if I had that sort of repeat variety without looking for a new bang!

For a pre-bang lead you actually may have more time since your absence may actually pique their interest. Still your odds slide to near zero after a week of no contact pre-bang.

Post: #4971

(03-23-2015 06:28 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(03-23-2015 06:07 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Ever get the feeling that some of these girls are only in your life because you continue to make the effort to keep them there?

For example - if you were to not initiate contact with any chicks you know for a whole week - not call, not text, no social media. Just go ghost for a week. How many girls do you think would open you up at some point asking where you've been, or what you're up to, or if you want to see them, etc.

Anyone ever test this for a week? Just for kicks?

Yes, only the plates I've banged usually will ping me if I go radio silent.

If I go radio silent on a lead or someone I've just been on one date on, typically, they won't bother hitting me up.

Imagine how many thirsty guys are hitting up girls....even 5's and 6 's.

You'd get lost in the noise, if you've already banged them, you've won already, it's on you if you want to keep playing and banging them.

Unless you've proven your worth and have high SMV and lot's of IOI's girls have a short attentnion span and will lose interest fast.

I'll catch myself not giving a fuck about texting girls only to find that they go radio silent or aren't interested in chilling, once awhile you can restart.

I can tell I'm getting tired of texting girls ever so often before we even hangout.

My recent text woes have been discussed a few pages back. I'm in a serious funk confidence wise. It feels like every woman I talk to had some sort of secret summit where they all decided they were either going to take forever to respond to my texts (when that was never the case before), or completely ignore texts outright.

Except one girl in particular - she is ridiculously cooperative. It doesn't matter when I text her, she always responds within minutes, and if she doesn't, apologizes and explains as to why. Every text ends in an exclamation point and a smiley face. If I send her a text that's three lines long, her reply is three lines long. When I flirt, she never busts my chops, not even in a playful way. If I say something suggestive she doesn't throw a shit test like "haha I don't know about that" or anything like that. She laughs and/or says "sounds good!"

But - she has as far as I can remember, never opened me. Never. If I go a week or more without texting her (and I have), then, that's it. I just don't hear from her. I'm wondering how a girl who seems so happy and enthusiastic to talk to me, can go weeks. Maybe she's old fashioned/super feminine and expects the man to make the first move always and forever, I don't know. Really don't want to experiment radio silence with her as we're in a groove right now.

But recently, I just feel like, most girls don't give a shit about you. You can bang them, you can think they're one of your "plates" who you can call over and fuck whenever you desire. Go without talking to them for a while. Test your market value. See how much she really cares about whether or not you communicate with her.

We're all aware of how many options the average woman has - and it's certainly discussed on here. But I think it's deeper and darker than some of us are willing to admit. The big key here is to increase your value. That's what we're all aiming for. But I feel like, any man is susceptible now. Unless we're talking celebrity status.

Post: #4972

You gotta game every girl differently once you have got the bang. Some chase like hell afterwards, some a little, some never... Some are attention whores, some shy and have been banged very few times, some want a man to do all the work.

Experiment with her as time goes on, keep her interest in different ways besides texting... Try a phone call.

Post: #4973

(03-23-2015 07:11 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Except one girl in particular - she is ridiculously cooperative. It doesn't matter when I text her, she always responds within minutes, and if she doesn't, apologizes and explains as to why. Every text ends in an exclamation point and a smiley face. If I send her a text that's three lines long, her reply is three lines long. When I flirt, she never busts my chops, not even in a playful way. If I say something suggestive she doesn't throw a shit test like "haha I don't know about that" or anything like that. She laughs and/or says "sounds good!"

But - she has as far as I can remember, never opened me. Never. If I go a week or more without texting her (and I have), then, that's it. I just don't hear from her. I'm wondering how a girl who seems so happy and enthusiastic to talk to me, can go weeks. Maybe she's old fashioned/super feminine and expects the man to make the first move always and forever, I don't know. Really don't want to experiment radio silence with her as we're in a groove right now.

But recently, I just feel like, most girls don't give a shit about you.

No they don't. Because they don't need you.

It's one of the harder red pill truth I need to swallow. The only woman on earth who would be worried about you is your mom, and sadly this is more due to the primal mother instinct rather than actual love for you.

With modern society structures as it is, women don't need men anymore. Roosh explained it before but I can't find the link. It's stupid because without men the world is fucking anarchy, but it is what it is. Her father pays for her shit and if he doesn't, she sues him. Can it get any more unnatural than that?

If she is bored, she calls up her legion of beta friends. You will say "but they are not as fun as a man with game". True, but with them she is in complete comfort zone. She doesn't have to fear the anxiety of potential sexual attraction, and the interaction is 100% in her control. Trust me I used to be one of those beta guys.

Quote:You can bang them, you can think they're one of your "plates" who you can call over and fuck whenever you desire. Go without talking to them for a while. Test your market value. See how much she really cares about whether or not you communicate with her.

It is because you are expendable. Ever work in corporation? You can be the shit who gets lots of shit done, but that never means you can not be fired. Legions of men just as qualified as you are waiting to take your spot? The company can easily fire you and take anyone of those if you stop playing their game. Girls nowadays are like those CEOs, except they have a lot more power and their cost for "firing" your ass is extremely low.

Your situation with the girl above is the norm rather than the exception. That's why I been sticking to Roosh's advice of keeping texts simple: girls are not the same in real life and in texts. They can be a cute kitty in texts but an ice queen in real life. That's how socially uncalibrated the modern woman is. I don't even get excited anymore when I receive a positive text. I lost count of how many girls react exactly like you describe above, but when you 1) go radio silence 2) ask them out, they disappear from the face of the earth.

The one thing you as a player can do to up your chance, is to engage her emotions and strike while that buying temperature is still hot.

I know this has been beaten to death but we take it for granted so easily. Take Kaotic's case for example. I noticed a pattern in his post: He got his main girl hooked and locked down because he is constantly creating invisible drama, all the while fucking her good and being a man. Drama is like fucking drug to girls and you must be their dealer. Remember one of the 48 laws of power: make other people dependent on you.

@Kaotic: I'm not in your shoes but I'm going out on a limb here and say that your girl can feel something is up. Women don't need to know, they can just feel. They can always feel when you are banging on the side and it drives them horny and crazy. She knows you are always flirting but she has little proof, and that drama keeps her both horny and anxious. Ironically enough this is the only way to retain a high value girl. All successful players I know who has a 8+ main always flirt on the side and keep their girls on their toes. I would say you need to keep it that way though. Once she KNOWS you are cheating the drama of mystery is gone and that shit can explode.

Post: #4974

Damn Dalaran spot on. Everything you said is so true.

There really is no better metaphor for this entire thing than red pill. It really is having the knowledge of reality but at the same time being disgusted by said reality.

To see what the bulk of women respond to - to see how the bulk of women act...it's not pretty. Ignorance really is bliss, but if you want success, you have to face the realities.

Having confidence in yourself and feeling like you're a one of a kind man, and then realizing that most women don't really care - that they have this air of apathy surrounding them -- it's a tough reality to accept.

There is nothing easy about this game. Once you're in, you're in deep. It can get ugly sometimes.

Post: #4975

An unattractive woman from okc that I don’t even like doesn't want to see me again. I’m pissed.

I don't even know why it bothers me.