Hey guys, for a tourist visa, for staying longer than 30 days, do I need to get it outside of the PI? Or can I get it in Manila once I'm there? I hold a US passport if that matters.

(02-12-2015 12:17 AM)Teddykgb Wrote:  UFC heading to Manila. Faber vs Edgar

Thanks for posting this! I may try and get tickets if I can stay a bit longer in Phils!

Rio - You can extend while here up to 18 months and it's easy to do. The first extension is for another 30 days and then you can do 60 each time. It's about 2500 to 5000 pesos each time plus a one time acr card purchase at the 3rd extension for 3000 I think. Pm me if you want the exact pricing schedule.

Basically, you don't have to do anything before coming.

I was wondering about logistics for place of residence, DHV and likeliness of girls' enthusiasm for going right to my place of residence instead of demanding to go only somewhere else. I will be living at Azure Resort Residences, now awarded best condo develoment in the Philippines. it is located 8 minutes south of Makati in Paranque. Anyone think that this is going to raise my value and interest by girls by them seeing I live here? vs say just staying at a plain boring condo or boring hotel in Makati?

this place has Paris Beach Club designed by the celebrety, a beach, wave pool and more on a brand new luxury condo development that I can afford to rent and stay on. Anyone thing this will raise interest and increase likely hood of them coming back to 'my pad' on same day meet?
So far it seems so from one user that was enthusiastic about meeting me and was more than willing to go right there to Paris Beach club. what do other people think?

I am using this place to live in and hopefully pull easily from Malate, Pasay, Taguig, Makati, Pas Pinas, paranque, Muntinlupa, parts of Cavite and Pasig. :




lol @ using this place for that.

(02-22-2015 09:15 PM)mindanao Wrote:  I was wondering about logistics for place of residence, DHV and likeliness of girls' enthusiasm for going right to my place of residence instead of demanding to go only somewhere else. I will be living at Azure Resort Residences, now awarded best condo develoment in the Philippines. it is located 8 minutes south of Makati in Paranque. Anyone think that this is going to raise my value and interest by girls by them seeing I live here? vs say just staying at a plain boring condo or boring hotel in Makati?

I never thought it made a difference and i've stayed at some of the nicest condo developments in the Fort and Makati. A girl will decide whether she wants to meet you or not anyways based on other factors. It's not like living in a swanky place will push her over from a No to a Yes unless she's a major gold digger anyways. If you sit there and try to name drop your place to some girl to impress her then you're probably treading into beta bucks territory.

A nice place does make them eager for repeats or sleepovers though. In that case it also doesn't matter much because if you want to repeat with a Filipina after the initial fuck it's as simple as txting them.

(02-22-2015 09:29 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(02-22-2015 09:15 PM)mindanao Wrote:  I was wondering about logistics for place of residence, DHV and likeliness of girls' enthusiasm for going right to my place of residence instead of demanding to go only somewhere else. I will be living at Azure Resort Residences, now awarded best condo develoment in the Philippines. it is located 8 minutes south of Makati in Paranque. Anyone think that this is going to raise my value and interest by girls by them seeing I live here? vs say just staying at a plain boring condo or boring hotel in Makati?

I never thought it made a difference and i've stayed at some of the nicest condo developments in the Fort and Makati. A girl will decide whether she wants to meet you or not anyways based on other factors. It's not like living in a swanky place will push her over from a No to a Yes unless she's a major gold digger anyways. If you sit there and try to name drop your place to some girl to impress her then you're probably treading into beta bucks territory.

A nice place does make them eager for repeats or sleepovers though. In that case it also doesn't matter much because if you want to repeat with a Filipina after the initial fuck it's as simple as txting them.

Ok thanks I actually already removed Azure from the first paragraph. I hid my place of residences (Azure) in the middle of the mess on my profile so it looks like I am not trying to boast about my location, yet they will know cuz it is hidden in there somewhere so they can judge. It is platinum profile so they see much of the start of your profile description aside from the headline. I will experiment between it being in the visible part, or hidden mixed in below or completely omitted and just mention it when she actually asks where I will be staying at which point I think you an best take advantage of the opportunity to make them know where it is without risking that you are boasting about it. Between these 3 I will notice witch results in the largest number of interests being sent. So far though I did not really notice a decrease in number of interests when it was visible. I will just have to see which of the 3 above mentioned tactics gives more interest clicks.

Dude if youre getting this place to pull fc girls you are way overdoing it by paying extra to live there. Paranaque isn't a terrible local but it's not central and many girls may not know how to get there. One main benefit of makati is that everyone knows which jeepneys go to greenbelt. Same can be said for high st/ft. If you're trying to run high end social circle game and crack that nut then make some friends in your new building and work your way up that way. You might with some effort be able to use that with any skill to pull some high end girls if you also have gAme and style.

However I am guessing from some of your previous posts that this isn't your intended game but perhaps I am wrong. But it's overkill for the fast food internet bAngs. In fact some of the girls you might pull from fc, if they're too shall we say rustic may alienate your new neighbors and they see it as bottom feeding (pun intended).

mindanao .. Azure Resort Residences >

Looks like a really great setup, however I'm inclined to agree with GE.
Will be amazed if you can get there from Makati in 8 minutes.
Girls that can't afford taxis will not get there so easily.

Probably over kill for 6's and 7's. Some 5's may even be uncomfortable or intimidated by it.

Hell, I keep intending to use "swimming pool game" to get them to the condo in Makati, but never make it to the pool as it just slows the process unnecessarily.

On the positive side ..
1. Nice place to live. It should be about your personal comforts first anyway.
2. Handy to the airport if you're flying girls in.
3. Could be a deal clincher with those more elusive 8's and 9's.

I'll be back in Makati next month. Happy to have a beer with you by your wave pool

8 minutes to Makati...in a helicopter I don't think it's 8 minutes from the Fort to Greenbelt at 4am.

Are you sure you don't want to live somewhere that you can walk out your front door to some bars, restaurants, clubs, etc., without suffering traffic?

How much time have you spent in Manila so far? You might want to check it out before committing to anything. You might find you want to be more in the mix. There's quite a bit going on in Manila and a 45-120min cab ride anytime between 8am and 11pm could turn into a serious pain the ass. Yes, the traffic is that bad here.

As far as girls go I think it might help with the poorer/average girls from FC, but with the upper classes and hot tinder/club girls I doubt it will make a difference. Just depends on what you're aiming for. The hotter upper tier girls in my experience are not just going to 'come over' unless you've built up a very strong online relationship over time with them. This is why places like Makati/Fort are so good, there are dozens of bars/restaurants right out your front door.

(02-22-2015 11:21 AM)dreambig Wrote:  ^^ Yeah the scammer thing crossed my mind. Even a couple of seemingly nice girls have asked me for money before. These seem legit though. One in particular is honestly quite stunning, but very feminine. I've talked to her on Skype and she has a sweet persona. The whole time I had to bite my tongue not to complement her looks...haha.

Think I've got a decent radar for the bad girls these days...while I won't rule it out just yet, she just seems like a normal college girl. Her FB is really detailed, lists her school etc and it's 99% filipino friends. A handful of old foreign guys, which I assume are from FC. She hasn't pushed to meet or for money.

Sounds legit then. Let us know how it turns out.

I don't think the scammers try to long game you here. The scam comes out rather quick. I do hear a lot of stories of sponsors, but that's a different game and the men deserve it lol.

Hey guys,

Tried searching through the thread but couldn't find any specific. I'm looking to do two months in Cebu (April/May) and would love any recommendations on what apartment or condo buildings to check out.

From many other comments on the thread it seems like being really close to Alaya mall is better than the Mango night district.

I'd like to be in the 20k-40k range price wise.

(02-23-2015 04:22 PM)PsychedelicTaser Wrote:  Hey guys,

Tried searching through the thread but couldn't find any specific. I'm looking to do two months in Cebu (April/May) and would love any recommendations on what apartment or condo buildings to check out.

From many other comments on the thread it seems like being really close to Alaya mall is better than the Mango night district.

I'd like to be in the 20k-40k range price wise.

I've only spent a week or so in Cebu, a couple of years ago.
I stayed at the Gran Prix hotel, across the road from Mango Sq. (very reasonable price)

If I returned there, I would stay as close to Ayala Mall as possible !

(02-23-2015 04:34 AM)YardDog Wrote:  8 minutes to Makati...in a helicopter I don't think it's 8 minutes from the Fort to Greenbelt at 4am.

Are you sure you don't want to live somewhere that you can walk out your front door to some bars, restaurants, clubs, etc., without suffering traffic?

How much time have you spent in Manila so far? You might want to check it out before committing to anything. You might find you want to be more in the mix. There's quite a bit going on in Manila and a 45-120min cab ride anytime between 8am and 11pm could turn into a serious pain the ass. Yes, the traffic is that bad here.

As far as girls go I think it might help with the poorer/average girls from FC, but with the upper classes and hot tinder/club girls I doubt it will make a difference. Just depends on what you're aiming for. The hotter upper tier girls in my experience are not just going to 'come over' unless you've built up a very strong online relationship over time with them. This is why places like Makati/Fort are so good, there are dozens of bars/restaurants right out your front door.

I am not exactly striving for overly upper class. So that will be fine. But I just want to find on girl to spend the rest of my life with because I have a job waiting for me in Toronto later this year so I am in a hurry to find a nice one. Average on in general should be just fine with this. the location is actually not bad cuz the jeepney can sometimes get me super fast from the MRT. I knew for a fact that Azur would offer benefits for the way it is. It is not necessarily the 'impressed factor' but simply the logistics of the place. It has its own attractions so less likely to need to go somewhere else. I can suggest going to the free movie theatre or other things there. Many will simply love the thing about Paris Beach club. One is enthusiastic about just meeting right at Paris beach club. So guaranteed there is going to be benefit. Those that argue about the geographic location also have a point. apart from what was mentioned already, this is what appears to be the lowest density part of Metro Manila and is a narrower corridor. So numbers cold be lower, on top of the fact that there is no LRT. The PNR does not closely match. If it were true that it did not matter normal vs tops like this one, I would be at SM San Lazaro in a heartbeat cuz the population density there is the highest on the planet and more likely to find the one girl you truly love in this crazy crowded region.

I hope I find one soon so I can spend my time with her on this resort then go to Canada. Not sure how slow the process is to bring them back to Canada though.

(02-22-2015 11:33 PM)Global Entry Wrote:  Dude if youre getting this place to pull fc girls you are way overdoing it by paying extra to live there. Paranaque isn't a terrible local but it's not central and many girls may not know how to get there. One main benefit of makati is that everyone knows which jeepneys go to greenbelt. Same can be said for high st/ft. If you're trying to run high end social circle game and crack that nut then make some friends in your new building and work your way up that way. You might with some effort be able to use that with any skill to pull some high end girls if you also have gAme and style.

However I am guessing from some of your previous posts that this isn't your intended game but perhaps I am wrong. But it's overkill for the fast food internet bAngs. In fact some of the girls you might pull from fc, if they're too shall we say rustic may alienate your new neighbors and they see it as bottom feeding (pun intended).

Amazing thing is that it is only 15,000 a month. That is bang on average for a condo unit in the most centrally located places. So it is downright amazing that the same price is right on what is rated best condo in the Philippines. It makes me think why would people rent so many of those other ones across Manila if you have this. But clearly people have their reasons cuz they ARE spread around that region. But I clearly saw people show reasons for not wanting to live in Paranaque for reasons such as other places and things to go to and travel difficulties. Both can be overcome because of how good the place itself is, worth the occasional travel time to Makati and the fact that rapid transportation is available. Most won't say it is too hard to find. Of all places south of Makati this is easy to find cuz it is an SM mall (Bicutan) on the main arterial route although finding it would have been even easier ha it been at Sucat and not the one further up at Bicutan cuz most bus routes skip this place. If people can find SM las Pinas easy, then this SM though is a piece of cake to find.

I think one disadvantage of Makati is that many places you stay in are in a sea of building developments. Many places you will need to walk around other condos and things to get to the most important malls and things. It seems many places to stay are lost far away from the main malls. this is why I turned down Jazz residences, particularily far away. It is nice and is in Makati AND even affordable, but it is far from malls for walking. The best deals for living in cities in this region and have the condos right next to SM malls are SM San Lazaro, SM North and lastly SM Las Pinas, due restriction on city area that can access it in a fast way. I think there is another one on the other LRT line in the middle of Manila, but it seems like the bulk of people are nowhere near there at Santa Mesa. Everyone seems to be near QC and south of Makati so Azure is way better even than the SM in the middle of Manila at Santa Mesa near San Juan. Very few that send you interest will be local there.

(02-23-2015 06:42 PM)mindanao Wrote:  It seems many places to stay are lost far away from the main malls. this is why I turned down Jazz residences, particularily far away. It is nice and is in Makati AND even affordable, but it is far from malls for walking.

I've been to Jazz before although i've never stayed there. It's attached to a SM hypermarket and a small mall. I think they are still opening some of the stores in that complex. You could get girls to meet you downstairsa nd bounce the upstairs. It's still within easy spitting distance of the Fort and Makati though. When I stayed in Gramercy I could see the Jazz building from the walkway.

I have an interesting idea. Since I have changed my area of interest and no longer want to go after any girls anymore, I was thinking of doing something else with enjoying Azure. I always found I got along with girls better from eastern Samar province. I might take a trip to eastern Samar, find a girl I like, stay with her on Azure resort for 6 months to see if she is suitable for me. Most likely will be cuz I get along well with samar girls for some reason. Then when my contract is up, I go with her back to Canada. Too bad I am not choosing the start of the 6 month cold season to do it. By the time I finish 6 month of Azure with a dream girl from Samar, it will start getting cold again in Canada when I go back lol. I stay march through August. Then September when I go it starts getting cooler. Damn it! lol

(02-22-2015 09:15 PM)mindanao Wrote:  I was wondering about logistics for place of residence, DHV and likeliness of girls' enthusiasm for going right to my place of residence instead of demanding to go only somewhere else. I will be living at Azure Resort Residences, now awarded best condo develoment in the Philippines. it is located 8 minutes south of Makati in Paranque. Anyone think that this is going to raise my value and interest by girls by them seeing I live here? vs say just staying at a plain boring condo or boring hotel in Makati?

this place has Paris Beach Club designed by the celebrety, a beach, wave pool and more on a brand new luxury condo development that I can afford to rent and stay on. Anyone thing this will raise interest and increase likely hood of them coming back to 'my pad' on same day meet?
So far it seems so from one user that was enthusiastic about meeting me and was more than willing to go right there to Paris Beach club. what do other people think?

I am using this place to live in and hopefully pull easily from Malate, Pasay, Taguig, Makati, Pas Pinas, paranque, Muntinlupa, parts of Cavite and Pasig. :

Can you tell us how many hours or days you have previously spent "on the ground" in Manila?

The logistics that you suggest in your posts #1188 & 1189 just don't gel with my and others experiences in Manila.

Your plan to get girls to come directly to your condo for the first meet doesn't seem consistent with looking for a "keeper" to take back to Canada?

BTW, you mention SM San Lazaro as a prime location. You would be able to get Tondo girls to walk there. jk

OK. You've posted again while I was writing the last one.

I see the situation now. Cancel all my advise.

(02-23-2015 07:25 PM)Antipodean Wrote:  

(02-22-2015 09:15 PM)mindanao Wrote:  I was wondering about logistics for place of residence, DHV and likeliness of girls' enthusiasm for going right to my place of residence instead of demanding to go only somewhere else. I will be living at Azure Resort Residences, now awarded best condo develoment in the Philippines. it is located 8 minutes south of Makati in Paranque. Anyone think that this is going to raise my value and interest by girls by them seeing I live here? vs say just staying at a plain boring condo or boring hotel in Makati?

this place has Paris Beach Club designed by the celebrety, a beach, wave pool and more on a brand new luxury condo development that I can afford to rent and stay on. Anyone thing this will raise interest and increase likely hood of them coming back to 'my pad' on same day meet?
So far it seems so from one user that was enthusiastic about meeting me and was more than willing to go right there to Paris Beach club. what do other people think?

I am using this place to live in and hopefully pull easily from Malate, Pasay, Taguig, Makati, Pas Pinas, paranque, Muntinlupa, parts of Cavite and Pasig. :

Can you tell us how many hours or days you have previously spent "on the ground" in Manila?

The logistics that you suggest in your posts #1188 & 1189 just don't gel with my and others experiences in Manila.

Your plan to get girls to come directly to your condo for the first meet doesn't seem consistent with looking for a "keeper" to take back to Canada?

BTW, you mention SM San Lazaro as a prime location. You would be able to get Tondo girls to walk there. jk

It is actually that I have limited budget so I don't want to be spending heaps of money on dates far from where I live, most important point being spending it on ones I may later find I don't like. The unmentioned benefit of them coming right there is not spending all this money on girls that turn out bad. I am sayin this ccuz I travelled all the way to Marikina and this girl shows up with her friends and demands me to buy them lunch too. Most should be willing to come to Azure pretty soon no matter what. Those that are not shy and very interested seem to be wanting to come right there so this screens out those with mediocre levels of interest. One I know and liked from Davao where I lived just messaged me telling me she wants to come to Manila just to see me. I am impressed and maybe my searching will not need to keep going. She likes Azure and wants to sty a while with me here. She said that after her kids' school is done she can come. I look forward to this. This is why Azure is good. You don't need to worry about travel issues. If you already have a girl you like and want to stay with, you can enjoy the isolation from the pollution and just enjoy the resort. So SM San Lazaro is out of my list forever. Many might start asking for money or something overly greedy cuz as you mentioned, the area it is near.

hmmm I got a job offer in Canada for September. I have 6 months to find a pinay I like and bring her back to Toronto. This time fraim works good for me cuz the lease in Manila is also 6 months. But I also have to get to know her well before the 6 months is up. I need to get stable and set up in Canada before the next winter comes so I don't really want to delay longer than 6 months. this only worries me cuz the one from Davao already gave me hints of something that make her questionable as one I can truest I will probably use my time to go to Samar anyways then cuz I think people are forced to grow up honest. I think geography can do a lot to help you narrow down to more honest people. One time I asked an older man how the girls were in this small village near Cotabato and their observations of the girls seemed to prove what I was thinking. People tell me different in Cebu, Cagayan de Oro and tondo. I also got this honest vibe fro the regular girls in Cotabato city. they seemed solid in their good personalities so I think going to Cotabato city might be a good option if you have a time limit for finding a girl you know you can trust. I am told they grow up in strict religious control so less risk for erratic behavior later on. That is just my guess though. There are a lot of gold diggers I have easily filtered out. I don't think you want to bring one of those back to Toronto lol

So you want to bring a girl with you to Canada? Make sure you really really get to know her, he family. I'd strongly recommend one who is from a solid middle class background with a Uni degree and a decent job already. Stay away from te pretty but poor ones for anything other than just short time fun. You'd be marrying not only her but her entire extended family. And stay away from girls with kids!

Heck if I were you, I'd keep her in the Phils and find a way to either relocate myself there or at the very least, get a seasonal trade or build an online biz. Bringing a foreign girl to Canada or the US or any of the Anglosphere countries is a very bad idea!

All the best man but do not rush it! Take your time to really get to know her and her family before ever thinking of bringing a girl back home man!

Ditto on everything VP said. You gotta consider the Pinay's perspective too... take a girl from a humble background into the West and they quickly learn that the money they earn has real purchasing power. It starts subtly but it does have a domino effect. Once she figures out that she doesn't need a man to live comfortably, then the jig is up. Anyhow, you'd have to keep up good game and insulate her well from the corrupting fempowerment if you intend to go through it. Of course it depends on the girl too, but I'd rather not rely on that.

Btw guys, it's official. I'll be flying into Manila Apr 26 and staying in the country until May 9. In Cebu Apr 30-May 4. Would love to finally hang out with you guys and chase some tail. Inuman na!

(02-23-2015 10:32 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  So you want to bring a girl with you to Canada? Make sure you really really get to know her, he family. I'd strongly recommend one who is from a solid middle class background with a Uni degree and a decent job already. Stay away from te pretty but poor ones for anything other than just short time fun. You'd be marrying not only her but her entire extended family. And stay away from girls with kids!

Heck if I were you, I'd keep her in the Phils and find a way to either relocate myself there or at the very least, get a seasonal trade or build an online biz. Bringing a foreign girl to Canada or the US or any of the Anglosphere countries is a very bad idea!

All the best man but do not rush it! Take your time to really get to know her and her family before ever thinking of bringing a girl back home man!

^Listen to what he says. Confirmed by multiple on the ground experience by me.

Screening for what Westerners would consider parasitism is REALLY REALLY important, there is a level of accepted parasitism in the Philippines that is not even conceivable to someone from a first world country.

It ranges from at worst, assuming you will send her something like several hundred dollars a month to support her once you start fucking her with no strings attached while you are back in Canada or elsewhere.

Then when you marry her and bring her to your mid-range house and multiple car lifestyle in the first world country ("What? You don't own a house?") she will expect to live an upper middle class lifestyle while you bust ass and she polishes her fingernails, posts on Facewhore, and gets fat.

PLUS OF COURSE you will be sending a couple hundred bucks plus more for medical emergencies and tuition for brothers and cousins... .

That's an exaggeration but a very slight one slight one for a pretty, lazy girls who's heard tales of luxury from friends already in the USA.

The girl you DON'T want:
--Doesn't have a job- she says she's a student at over 22 years of age. And isn't full time enrolled.

--Didn't graduate high school. (This indicates real problems in basic functioning-- you can't even APPLY for a job at 7-11 without a high school degree, so they were very poor/rural/dumb/had mental problems if they didn't get a high school degree. )

--Can't sleep over and can't tell her family she's seeing you. She's not going to totally change her social worldview and her family's so she isn't leaving the country with you. You're a fling.

The girl you WANT

-has a job, plus probably a degree
-when you warn them that you don't give girls money and you won't be sending her family money , they act surprised and say "Why would you do that?" or the like. They didn't even THINK of mooching off you. They RESIST when you try to buy them shit.

They genuinely don't see why you would feel responsible for her family.

NOW there's still the problem is her family is poor and lazy, because she will be thinking "Well, of course I will pay for my family when I get to Canada and get a full-time job. "

So if she works, she send all the fucking money back to buy beer for her lazy brothers and be too exhausted to be a good wife.

So you've also go to specify "You can only send 1/3 of the money you make back home."

Usually if you hammer on this personal responsibility stuff early and often, the parasitic ones ( it's not really considered parasitism in the Phils, it's fairly normal. ) she'll will stop getting back to you. You are lucky you screened her out.

I hammer on "I only have enough money for myself and my wife."

Also another red flag: She just casually asks you buy stuff when you go into a store with her. She'll just walk up to the counter with something in her hand. Shampoo, soap, hand sanitizer. She' s not aware it's rude.

Then when you buy it she doesn't even thank you!! Fatal.

If you are serious about a girl, I believe you've got to do some boot-camp level shit, confronting her about parasitism, because Filipinas don't really listen, they smile and pretend agreement, so you've got to force her to mouth the stuff herself to see if she convinces you.

Usually, when you hammer hard she'll start to rebel and admit "it's really important for me to buy my father a house" as she feels it's righteous to have that AS A FIRST GOAL MORE IMPORTANT than your marriage to her.

All these examples are from real life that I have personally experienced.

PS: Block quickly and brutally on your cell phone once she gets pissy about you setting limits and telling her about parasitism. That way when she feels like she can get back in your good graces, you don't even know and don't get distracted from what you should be doing-- meeting more women.

(02-23-2015 10:32 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  Heck if I were you, I'd keep her in the Phils and find a way to either relocate myself there or at the very least, get a seasonal trade or build an online biz. Bringing a foreign girl to Canada or the US or any of the Anglosphere countries is a very bad idea!

All the best man but do not rush it! Take your time to really get to know her and her family before ever thinking of bringing a girl back home man!

I agree for the most part that's it not a good idea for most men but i've changed my mind about the riskiness about doing this. The reason why I say this is because I know of and have seen a lot of asian FOBs import their wives to CA and live pretty happily. They didn't all meet them before immigrating either a lot of them went back and found wives. Why does it work out so well for these immigrant communities?

The answer is culture and language. They have the culture on lockdown and they know how to deal with the women on their level. If a man marrying a woman from a far different culture doesn't _get_ her culture or make an effort to then it's definitely risky. When women are in unfamiliar territory and they're dealing with someone who is basically a foreigner to them anyways then that's when the temptation to stray kicks in harder.

You weed out a lot of those tendencies by having that immigrant bond. I rarely hear about the wives of Chinese or Taiwanese fobs cheating on their husbands in the U.S. Even if they are pretty fine. Most of the slappers are asian-american born and raised.

It just doesn't happen that much with fobs.