I know its happened to all of us here in Asia more than once. Meet a girl online. She looks hot in her pictures, but in person she is busted. Drops from a 8 to a 5 or 6.

   
   

That's why I always ask for her Facebook or Skype.
Problem is on online insta dates a little more difficult

I tend to skip over girls without at least one full body shot.

When this happens to me, depending on how horny I am , I just fuck them and dump them.

How do you guys handle it?

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Just posted a datasheet guys.

Watch out for a girl called Beatriz Ramos on FC.

Complete psycho bitch who claims to be half Spanish. Was trying to get me to send my photos. When I didn't, she went on some rage about dirty filipinas and how im an ugly white whoremonger. Be careful about who you give your info to guys! This is why I have my social media strictly controlled and use different identities online. Keep that shit locked down because there are sad losers out there.

I have alternate FB and skype accounts for all this type of stuff. You can populate your FB with anything you want, giving whatever impression you want - permanent residency, high end business man, whatever. It makes no sense at all to give these girls any link to your real identity - they don't need it and it only puts you at risk. And don't do anything stupid on cam, you can totally be recorded. If you've been recorded and they have your real identity, they you can be extorted as well. It can be too late by the time they make the threat - never give access to your identity, and if you're traveling and staying in places without a safe, get a travel safe or hide your shit thoroughly. It only takes one bad actor to fuck up your credit, your identity, or your life.

(02-11-2015 12:29 PM)Global Entry Wrote:  I have alternate FB and skype accounts for all this type of stuff. .... It can be too late by the time they make the threat - never give access to your identity, and if you're traveling and staying in places without a safe, get a travel safe or hide your shit thoroughly. It only takes one bad actor to fuck up your credit, your identity, or your life.

I just blew off a pretty nice girl who started demanding to know my real name.

I was honest enough to tell her, "I'm not telling you my real name, I don't know you that well and I have a professional license to protect," but poor Filipinos aren't too smart and she felt SHE was the one at risk.

The more I think about it, the worse the risks seem--(in this case I think it's OK, I'm done with her) .

This girl worked in a menial job, and her family was extremely poor.

If SHE finds out your name, EVERY MEMBER OF THAT EXTENDED FAMILY finds out, because she has to trust them, no?

So she could have the shadiest 20 year old male cousins addicted to Shabu willing to ANYTHING to get a couple hundred bucks from you.

Plus they're jealous of foreigners banging their girls and lowering their value.

You have to get a Criminal Record clearance to get out of the country ( it has to be within a week of the date you fly) so if someone successfully lodges a false complaint who knows if it will get into their computer and block you and fuck all sorts of shit up.

Not a good scenario. From now on , I'm getting a small lock box, manufacturing some fake US STATE ID, and not telling anyone anything.

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(02-11-2015 12:29 PM)Global Entry Wrote:  I have alternate FB and skype accounts for all this type of stuff. .... It can be too late by the time they make the threat - never give access to your identity, and if you're traveling and staying in places without a safe, get a travel safe or hide your shit thoroughly. It only takes one bad actor to fuck up your credit, your identity, or your life.

I just blew off a pretty nice girl who started demanding to know my real name.

I was honest enough to tell her, "I'm not telling you my real name, I don't know you that well and I have a professional license to protect," but poor Filipinos aren't too smart and she felt SHE was the one at risk.

The more I think about it, the worse the risks seem--(in this case I think it's OK, I'm done with her) .

This girl worked in a menial job, and her family was extremely poor.

If SHE finds out your name, EVERY MEMBER OF THAT EXTENDED FAMILY finds out, because she has to trust them, no?

So she could have the shadiest 20 year old male cousins addicted to Shabu willing to ANYTHING to get a couple hundred bucks from you.

Plus they're jealous of foreigners banging their girls and lowering their value.

You have to get a Criminal Record clearance to get out of the country ( it has to be within a week of the date you fly) so if someone successfully lodges a false complaint who knows if it will get into their computer and block you and fuck all sorts of shit up.

Not a good scenario. From now on , I'm getting a small lock box, manufacturing some fake US STATE ID, and not telling anyone anything.
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Man I feel for you, but part of my process in filtering girls when I was in Manila last year was to never get involved with extremely poor ones. It keeps you out of situations like what you're talking about. Keep it middle class and higher, there are plenty of filipinas out there managing restaurants, doing call centers, etc.

(02-11-2015 01:17 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 12:29 PM)Global Entry Wrote:  I have alternate FB and skype accounts for all this type of stuff. .... It can be too late by the time they make the threat - never give access to your identity, and if you're traveling and staying in places without a safe, get a travel safe or hide your shit thoroughly. It only takes one bad actor to fuck up your credit, your identity, or your life.

I just blew off a pretty nice girl who started demanding to know my real name.

I was honest enough to tell her, "I'm not telling you my real name, I don't know you that well and I have a professional license to protect," but poor Filipinos aren't too smart and she felt SHE was the one at risk.

The more I think about it, the worse the risks seem--(in this case I think it's OK, I'm done with her) .

This girl worked in a menial job, and her family was extremely poor.

If SHE finds out your name, EVERY MEMBER OF THAT EXTENDED FAMILY finds out, because she has to trust them, no?

So she could have the shadiest 20 year old male cousins addicted to Shabu willing to ANYTHING to get a couple hundred bucks from you.

Plus they're jealous of foreigners banging their girls and lowering their value.

You have to get a Criminal Record clearance to get out of the country ( it has to be within a week of the date you fly) so if someone successfully lodges a false complaint who knows if it will get into their computer and block you and fuck all sorts of shit up.

Not a good scenario. From now on , I'm getting a small lock box, manufacturing some fake US STATE ID, and not telling anyone anything.

What made her think that your fake name wasn't your real name?

(02-11-2015 03:33 PM)bigbait Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 01:17 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  [quote='Global Entry' pid='954833' dateline='1423675756']
I was honest enough to tell her, "I'm not telling you my real name, I don't know you that well and I have a professional license to protect," but poor Filipinos aren't too smart and she felt SHE was the one at risk.

Not a good scenario. From now on , I'm getting a small lock box, manufacturing some fake US STATE ID, and not telling anyone anything.

What made her think that your fake name wasn't your real name?

I hadn't discussed my name at all, and she asked my name or "real name" I don't remember which. I said I don't give it out because I am in a sensitive profession. She accepted that at the time, but later started to pressure me.

One chick even asked my address ( i inferred my exact address) back in the USA and that was a non-starter, sounds like a setup for identity theft.

I believe the way to handle it is have a fake name ready, stick to it as real, and tell them real name later if you need to for marriage or some other serious stuff.

If they demand ID I think it might be a sign to cut her off, it probably means she's been pumped and dumped 20 times; most girls, even ones I was raw-dogging didn't even push for a real name, or ask my name at all.

Asking for ID means suspicious, a characteristic I don't want to deal with.

I have something to lose, I have a right to be suspicious. These girls have 1-2 dollars to their name and if they are thinking in legalistic terms about suing for child support then they aren't the trusting type I want.

(02-11-2015 02:44 PM)KeepMovingForward Wrote:  Man I feel for you, but part of my process in filtering girls when I was in Manila last year was to never get involved with extremely poor ones. It keeps you out of situations like what you're talking about. Keep it middle class and higher, there are plenty of filipinas out there managing restaurants, doing call centers, etc.

I love that Jack Nicholson line ( Actually Robert Towne) from Chinatown:
"When you're right, you're right, and you're right."

I can't argue, but it's just so tempting lol.

Also one of the first things they do when their status starts going up is focusing on YoungTallCool as peer-type marriage is a middle class goal; and I'm looking a little too old for them to avoid "sugar-daddy" accusations from their friends.

UFC heading to Manila. Faber vs Edgar

(02-11-2015 10:48 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  If they demand ID I think it might be a sign to cut her off, it probably means she's been pumped and dumped 20 times; most girls, even ones I was raw-dogging didn't even push for a real name, or ask my name at all.

Asking for ID means suspicious, a characteristic I don't want to deal with.

It''s true i'm in my 30's and the question of age or legitimacy never comes into question. If she's asking for ID or grilling you on occupation or support then it's time to cut her loose.

This is embarrassing to mention but some girls don't even want to be seen in public with me. It's not because i'm hideous, or a sex tourist, it's because i'm not in her normal social circle. Filipinas who are entrenched in communities also have people around them who will gossip hard so discretion is key, always. Discretion is even better than a condom. They don't care about raw dogging but a damaged reputation is a life long burden to some.

I'll do the opposite - when I get a girl in the room, I'll show her my passport. It's a legacy of when I was beta orbiter to a girl who told me she was impressed when one of her alphas did that. Might not be a good idea, but I think it builds comfort.

"This is who I am . . . . " I'll let her page through the passport to look at all the cool stamps and visas of the Most Interesting Man in the World. They don't take notes. If you're taking a girl to your place, you can always be found anyways, unless you're paying cash in no-tell hotels.

The chances of a poor girl in the Philippines reaching and applying an American's assets in a false child support claim judgment are about the same as me collecting in an emotional distress lawsuit against Vladimir Putin.

(02-12-2015 10:38 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  The chances of a poor girl in the Philippines reaching and applying an American's assets in a false child support claim judgment are about the same as me collecting in an emotional distress lawsuit against Vladimir Putin.

I think that is true, but we have been told it is very easy for them to block you from leaving the country. All they need is your name.

(02-12-2015 01:40 PM)bigbait Wrote:  I think that is true, but we have been told it is very easy for them to block you from leaving the country. All they need is your name.

Who told you this?

(02-12-2015 01:59 PM)Satoshi Wrote:  

(02-12-2015 01:40 PM)bigbait Wrote:  I think that is true, but we have been told it is very easy for them to block you from leaving the country. All they need is your name.

Who told you this?

Why would some girl in the Philippines run to the police complaining about some foreigner, without good reason? We are not talking about attention-whoring Ivy League students here.

Poor people in third-world countries generally steer clear of the authorities, for good reason, because they're corrupt and brutal. Girl walks into the police station in a third world country, she might end up having to suck dick to walk out. The same syndrome is growing in the USA, where any voluntary interaction with the police may backfire.

And why would the authorities diligently write and file reports and enter data into national immigration databases because some girl "said," without evidence of her being, for example, beat up? You can usually count on the laziness, inefficiency and incompetence of authorities, too.

I'm not saying anything about girls making these criminal claims, as I've never hear this happen. That being said, immigration claims against foreigners have been used for years in the Phils to extort money from said foreigners. There are some youtube documentaries on this issue. Nothing to do with girls knowing your ID, of course - my issue with that is what a certain RVF member recounted after camming with some girl and finding out she'd downloaded (or whatever) his Facebook contact list and was trying to extort him with the video of his misdeeds.

Better, though, SP, to stay off their radar entirely in my opinion, if at all possible. I'm not talking about your mid0east conquests, talking about PI based ones (and generalizing of course).

(02-12-2015 03:01 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(02-12-2015 01:59 PM)Satoshi Wrote:  

(02-12-2015 01:40 PM)bigbait Wrote:  I think that is true, but we have been told it is very easy for them to block you from leaving the country. All they need is your name.

Who told you this?

Why would some girl in the Philippines run to the police complaining about some foreigner, without good reason? We are not talking about attention-whoring Ivy League students here.

Poor people in third-world countries generally steer clear of the authorities, for good reason, because they're corrupt and brutal. Girl walks into the police station in a third world country, she might end up having to suck dick to walk out. The same syndrome is growing in the USA, where any voluntary interaction with the police may backfire.

And why would the authorities diligently write and file reports and enter data into national immigration databases because some girl "said," without evidence of her being, for example, beat up? You can usually count on the laziness, inefficiency and incompetence of authorities, too.

SNAPSHOT: Sitting in Mall coffee shop working on arts stuff.

Local guy walks by about 4'8" some horrible limp, like his knee joint is completely locked holding the hand of his cute 10 year old son or grandson.

The dad was all grizzled looking I guess from working in the sun, still stood up straight, not cowering to anyone or anything. Alpha as fuck.

Great example for middle class guys from the USA crying in our imported beer. Including me.

Filipinos just make life work and don't count all the shit against them , they just don't stop. Short, poor, ugly? Don't let anyone stop you.

(02-12-2015 10:38 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  I'll do the opposite - when I get a girl in the room, I'll show her my passport. It's a legacy of when I was beta orbiter to a girl who told me she was impressed when one of her alphas did that. Might not be a good idea, but I think it builds comfort.

"This is who I am . . . . " I'll let her page through the passport to look at all the cool stamps and visas of the Most Interesting Man in the World. They don't take notes. If you're taking a girl to your place, you can always be found anyways, unless you're paying cash in no-tell hotels.

The chances of a poor girl in the Philippines reaching and applying an American's assets in a false child support claim judgment are about the same as me collecting in an emotional distress lawsuit against Vladimir Putin.

I think your strategy will be helpful and good 99%+ of the time, and frankly it's a better place to be psychologically.

But it's not attaching your assets abroad that's the possible risk. You're right, the logistics would be like launching a moon shot relative to here.

There's a grey area between recklessness and suffocating paranoia, I don't know why a girl needs to know my legal name.

I don't know if it's 1/1000 of 1% or 1/10 of 1%, but I'm more worried about:

--some girl's sociopathic family complaining I abused their daughter to a bitter cop, who gets my name into a computer and keeping me from leaving. The foreigner is always wrong anywhere.

--one 20 year resident expat who was very connected ( he showed me a pic of him, his Filipino wife and a VERY VERY high government official) with adolescent kids I met here warned me about the families of underage girls extorting money from guys who messed with them. I can't really tell if a girl is 17 or 19.

--Do you have a professional licensing board you answer to, which can be easily reached? They are packed with bitter feminist bureaucrats. The one that I work under is obligated to investigate all complaints, and it took me 20 years to get my professional license. There's really no non-astronomical risk that's acceptable.

(02-14-2015 11:43 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  SNAPSHOT: Sitting in Mall coffee shop working on arts stuff.

Local guy walks by about 4'8" some horrible limp, like his knee joint is completely locked holding the hand of his cute 10 year old son or grandson.

The dad was all grizzled looking I guess from working in the sun, still stood up straight, not cowering to anyone or anything. Alpha as fuck.

Great example for middle class guys from the USA crying in our imported beer. Including me.

Filipinos just make life work and don't count all the shit against them , they just don't stop. Short, poor, ugly? Don't let anyone stop you.

I see things like this in Egypt all the time, too. Poor, often very short guys out with their wives and kids. And happy. It's what we don't have in our hypergamous materialistic feminist society.

(02-14-2015 11:51 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(02-12-2015 10:38 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  I'll do the opposite - when I get a girl in the room, I'll show her my passport. It's a legacy of when I was beta orbiter to a girl who told me she was impressed when one of her alphas did that. Might not be a good idea, but I think it builds comfort.

I think your strategy will be helpful and good 99%+ of the time, and frankly it's a better place to be psychologically.

But it's not attaching your assets abroad that's the possible risk. You're right, the logistics would be like launching a moon shot relative to here.

There's a grey area between recklessness and suffocating paranoia, I don't know why a girl needs to know my legal name.

I don't know if it's 1/1000 of 1% or 1/10 of 1%, but I'm more worried about:

--some girl's sociopathic family complaining I abused their daughter to a bitter cop, who gets my name into a computer and keeping me from leaving. The foreigner is always wrong anywhere.

--one 20 year resident expat who was very connected ( he showed me a pic of him, his Filipino wife and a VERY VERY high government official) with adolescent kids I met here warned me about the families of underage girls extorting money from guys who messed with them. I can't really tell if a girl is 17 or 19.

--Do you have a professional licensing board you answer to, which can be easily reached? They are packed with bitter feminist bureaucrats. The one that I work under is obligated to investigate all complaints, and it took me 20 years to get my professional license. There's really no non-astronomical risk that's acceptable.

Also, for better or worse, I'm dating women in their 30s and early 40s. I'm lazy and take low-hanging overripe fruit.

I agree with you about professional licensing board staff, they are packed with bitter feminists.

anyone near Mango or J.Ave in Cebu want to meet up tonight? PM me!

I still chat on Viber sometimes with this girl from Manila that I decided not to bang. I detailed the experience in the Manila thread.

Anyways she's crazy but hot and fun to talk with and she's always been pretty open and honest about how slutty she is, wants a baby, and all the rest.

So she contacts me on V-day. During the convo she tells me about the guy she was banging a few months ago and how she got pumped and dumped (again)

She's not pregnant but decided (in the spirit of V-day) to get payback by pulling the old I'm pregnant routine. Here's a clip of the convo she sent me.

   

Mind you she's laughing to me about all this because she thinks it's funny.

   

I think the tell that she is lying is when she says she can raise it herself and he doesn't need to help. If she truly were pregnant I think she would feel as if she were in a position of power and would be making demands, but who knows?

Anyways, if this guy is an RVF'er or reader, you can relax, Josie is full of shit.

Somehow this sounds like a post from an eager Philippina more than a meetup request...

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

(02-15-2015 06:59 AM)EinsteinsLaundry Wrote:  anyone near Mango or J.Ave in Cebu want to meet up tonight? PM me!

Damn, why do the cutest girls on FC always seem to live in the sticks?

Got a couple of chicks I'm pipelining who are pretty stunning (verified through FB and skype). Like quite close to my facial ideal actually. But of course they live in fucking no-go Zamboanga or some such place.

Have you guys ever paid a chick's bus ticket to come visit you? How have you worked it? Or would you just drop these country bumpkins and concentrate on the city girls?

Not matter how stunning the chick, I'm definitely NOT going to see her in western Mindanao...

(02-22-2015 10:33 AM)dreambig Wrote:  Damn, why do the cutest girls on FC always seem to live in the sticks?

Got a couple of chicks I'm pipelining who are pretty stunning (verified through FB and skype). Like quite close to my facial ideal actually. But of course they live in fucking no-go Zamboanga or some such place.

Have you guys ever paid a chick's bus ticket to come visit you? How have you worked it? Or would you just drop these country bumpkins and concentrate on the city girls?

Not matter how stunning the chick, I'm definitely NOT going to see her in western Mindanao...

Ah, the mythical Zamboanga girls.

This was a hot topic in 2013 I think. You'll notice on FC that many of the hottest girls are from this area.

Ask these girls to do a selfie holding up a sign with your name, three fingers, or something unique in front of an easily identifiable landmark in the city. I would love to know if they're legit or not.

Lots of guys have been scammed on Skype by girls saying they're in General Santos/Zamboagna. How detailed are their FBs?

I'm not saying the girls you're talking are scammers, but I would proceed with caution dealing with any very hot girl saying she's from this area.

A friend in my neighborhood when down to that area recently - with a paid armed detail lol.

With that said, you can fly one to Manila for $100-$150 give or take if she's legit. If she's your 'facial ideal' it might be worth it, though I'm sure you can find the equivalent in Manila (but with more competition for her).

^^ Yeah the scammer thing crossed my mind. Even a couple of seemingly nice girls have asked me for money before. These seem legit though. One in particular is honestly quite stunning, but very feminine. I've talked to her on Skype and she has a sweet persona. The whole time I had to bite my tongue not to complement her looks...haha.

Think I've got a decent radar for the bad girls these days...while I won't rule it out just yet, she just seems like a normal college girl. Her FB is really detailed, lists her school etc and it's 99% filipino friends. A handful of old foreign guys, which I assume are from FC. She hasn't pushed to meet or for money.