Surprising turn of events, night is going well:

Drove 40 mins out of my way to bang that 18 year old latin girl again.

She even dressed up as a school girl with no bra and no undies. We banged in my car down the street from her pad.

She never banged in a car before, she was super excited.

Tossed the condom in a cup at the gas station trash. Bought her water and she even gave me a tour of prostitute lane in her hood. Damn some of these girls were surprisingly cute, dropped her off, headed home.

Now i'm on my way to a friend who I think might have potential as a lay. Cute 7 fake tits world traveler wants to tell me about her SEA trip and is inviting me to roll with her on her next trip. She's a bit lazy, meeting her close to her pad. I'm gonna feel this out cause I know she gets around, either way it's a win/win.

Because im killing time for my last notch to come over the white creole chick, she told me I was seeing her tonight. So i've 2 bangs tonight, pipelining a 3rd.

I also got 2 girls on the phone and pipelined them for this week. I also got 2 girls who for sure want to hangout tommorow.

Funny how life can change in a few hours

I've never had so many recently turnaable #s that have yet to produce. Numerous make outs, intense IOIs in hords, groppings, female hen cock blocks surpassed, but massive last minute resistance on my picked targets. No I'm not fucking you.... tonight.

So I'm backing off the pressure to turn the bang so quick, toning down the playerdome. Bitches be sniffing out my keenness of Venutian Arts lately. Logistics wack half the time unplanned, this city is rough. The jungle fights back sometimes I guess. 5 fucking targets all testing me on wait ability after hard pressure that was turning fucks just a few months back.

A white 8 cute as fuck, a Puerto Rican 8.. just solid, a Half Lebanese 7, a tight thick white 6.5, a black 6 that's 100% bang I'm blowing off, my ex LTR I shook loose white 7, and a Filipino 7. . The shit test from this bar owner broad is ruthless, she says:"My bartender (one of four 8s serving), the brunette said;"he's mine, don't you dare." So she says;"I told her, fuck no he's mine, you can go back tomorrow and pick her up, but tonight, I'm not fucking you, I'm not a whore." Wow sluts. I'm either in for a major fuckfest if I turn 50% going forward on very warm leads, or some serious game epiphanies on the changing environment.

Lately I've been having girls do animal impressions for me. I'll ask them to do their best impersonation of a giraffe, or flamingo. Pretty hilarious results.

Met up with my friend the cute 7 fake tits.

I kept telling her to drive to me, said fuck it, met her near her place. ALL the bars were packed and had a wait time.

She felt bad so she followed me to my regular bar.

We're both on the same pages in our lives, she's actually a pretty fucking cool girl, unfortunately she's definitely seeing it the friend zone way, the upside is, she's great at planning overseas trips, she drop hints she could be a wingwoman, and bringing girls on travel trips are a great tool to have.

Oh well, it wasn't a loss since I was killing time, my regular bartender must've made our drinks strong, cause I was borderline drunk/super buzzed, we had 6 total, he only charged us for 2. Tipped him fat.

Bounced, the white creole girl was waiting at my house, she drove an hour to see me, she was high as fuck also.

I throw some lame movie on, I start feeling tired, I start man handling her....she's on her period, immediately get turned off since I'm not getting laid. She's CONSTANTLY wanting kisses and touching at this point I'm not having it.

I'm tired, I'm drunk, I worked early, I'm not having sex. So after an hour I fell asleep then woke up, she was grabbing my dick.

I made some lame ass excuse how I had a nasty gash manscaping and it wasn't happening.

I literally turned down a blow job, the boner test never lies.

I've got to do the fade away from this one, I can't handle all this lovey dovey constantly kissing shit as if I'm in 7th grade. I'm not going to lead her on, she's a nice girl, she's just wayyyy to weird for me.

Next.

Plate 1 told me she loved me tonight. I think she's going to want to die when she reads through the texts she's been sending me when she sobers up in the morning. Don't know whether to next her.

Just denied a girl who got at me for a booty call. Not sure whether that was the right play, have had a lot of flakes recently so I'm denying girls at the first instance to see if that changes things.

FWB has been hitting the gym hard doing squats. Today she walked past me and her ass naturally jiggled. I've yet to see it do that. She's still paper bag worthy in the face department but hot damn, that ass.

I went out last night, starting in Georgetown and moved onto Capital Hill. I was joking with my friend about random shit. I turn my head and the bartender, this cute skinny girl, is laughing out loud. Place is gay as fuck though so we go bar hopping. I chatted up some black girl in line for the bathroom at this shitty bar because it had two unisex bathrooms so everyone had to stand in a line that was twice as long. Explaining troughs to her, and made a joke from my military times "Three to a pisser" (something we actually did in boot camp). But I don't like black chicks so moved on.

Town was a sausage fest, so fittingly finish the night at a hotdog stand, and there's this cute 8/10 girl standing there by herself looking like she got abandoned. I hit her with a ton of absolute bullshit. I called this bitch racist like 3 times, just dropping mad SJW lingo. She tried to start talking about white privilege. I'm thinking damn I just met you. So I told her not to call me white cups I'm part Armenian, and she goes "You have white skin so you're white." "That's racist." This chick ordered a vegetarian hotdog. Anyway, she gets her food, and gives me this quick goodbye and starts walking off fast, but I stopped her;
"Wait. You didn't give me your number yet."
"I don't remember you asking..."
"I'm asking you now."
She took my phone called her phone, and saved herself as a contact with both first and last name...

Anyway, so I was planning on going out tonight, but I work Sunday. I was supposed to have it off but this douchebag I work with lied got the schedule switched. I'm a total "yes" man at work. Maybe I need to bring some game into that joint, what do you guys think?

(01-24-2015 06:14 PM)kaotic Wrote:  she's on her period, immediately get turned off since I'm not getting laid.

How is period a problem?

Proceed as usual. Usually a bit of LMR but easily vanquished.

(01-24-2015 06:14 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Met up with my friend the cute 7 fake tits.

I kept telling her to drive to me, said fuck it, met her near her place. ALL the bars were packed and had a wait time.

She felt bad so she followed me to my regular bar.

We're both on the same pages in our lives, she's actually a pretty fucking cool girl, unfortunately she's definitely seeing it the friend zone way, the upside is, she's great at planning overseas trips, she drop hints she could be a wingwoman, and bringing girls on travel trips are a great tool to have.

Oh well, it wasn't a loss since I was killing time, my regular bartender must've made our drinks strong, cause I was borderline drunk/super buzzed, we had 6 total, he only charged us for 2. Tipped him fat.

Bounced, the white creole girl was waiting at my house, she drove an hour to see me, she was high as fuck also.

I throw some lame movie on, I start feeling tired, I start man handling her....she's on her period, immediately get turned off since I'm not getting laid. She's CONSTANTLY wanting kisses and touching at this point I'm not having it.

I'm tired, I'm drunk, I worked early, I'm not having sex. So after an hour I fell asleep then woke up, she was grabbing my dick.

I made some lame ass excuse how I had a nasty gash manscaping and it wasn't happening.

I literally turned down a blow job, the boner test never lies.

I've got to do the fade away from this one, I can't handle all this lovey dovey constantly kissing shit as if I'm in 7th grade. I'm not going to lead her on, she's a nice girl, she's just wayyyy to weird for me.

Next.

Unless she's paying for your trip or she's got hiso friends in SEA Asia, I would say forget about rolling with her. There are plenty of guys on the forum who are in SEA Asia right now that would be much better wings.

In addition, those types of girls are annoying as fuck when you're actually traveling with them.

(01-10-2015 10:50 AM)Lothario Wrote:  

(01-10-2015 06:37 AM)Angry Beaver Wrote:  Polarizing might be the best thing yet!

I had a Tinder date last Tuesday which was rather bland - she's sexy, but the conversation was boring and I was not on top of my game either - tired as hell from work. She messages me couple of days later saying she a good time, and I respond by saying "thanks!". She accuses me off having a big ego and demands an honest opinion on the date. I basically tell her "you can't handle the truth", but she insists.

I say that I think she attractive and I wouldn't hesitate for a second to find out if she sleeps naked (one of my favourite questions, when they ask a question, usually about something trivial and then I get to ask one in return and follow up by asking whether they sleep naked or not. It gets their hamster spinning at light speed), but that the date was rather boring. She goes into radio silence for days and responded only today saying that she want's to try again, but on her terms: she'll pick a place and we'll wear a sexy dress.

I think I'm going

Yes Sir, Polarize to avoid being put on the long term track or worse friendzoned.

AngryBeaver I think you have a very high likelihood of banging this one, Gun for it and report back.

Finally had the opportunity to go through with it - six times. It hurts a bit.

Shitty weekend. Literally nothing I did worked, which is pretty damn rare. Not blow outs, per se, but none of my conversations actually went anywhere.

I'm also sick, which is always fun.

Got some girl asking me if I "want to have coffee," so maybe that will pan out.

(01-25-2015 05:37 AM)alex3948 Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 06:14 PM)kaotic Wrote:  she's on her period, immediately get turned off since I'm not getting laid.

How is period a problem?

Proceed as usual. Usually a bit of LMR but easily vanquished.

Honestly, I just wanted to sleep, she didn't pass the boner test, whiskey dick didn't help, I was over it.

(01-25-2015 08:35 AM)Mentavious Wrote:  Unless she's paying for your trip or she's got hiso friends in SEA Asia, I would say forget about rolling with her. There are plenty of guys on the forum who are in SEA Asia right now that would be much better wings.

In addition, those types of girls are annoying as fuck when you're actually traveling with them.

Good point I'll take the into consideration. I think it's because she has alot of experience traveling overseas than I do.

UPDATE #1: Read the zero bangs thread and went for the very last option. Will report how she responds. Never been this ballsy before, but fortune favors the bold.

Update #2: She responded an hour later, "I don't have a lot of work at my place but wine is always good." Off I go Thursday

Update #3: Texted her a basic "8:00 tonight." Hadn't arranged the time during our Monday convo. Will NOT remessage her if doesn't respond. Should I just delete her number if I hypothetically don't hear back from her?



Update #4: We were supposed to hang out Thursday, and she responding hours later, apologizing that she forgot her friend had a going away party that night. She wanted to reschedule for the weekend.

I brought over wine, and she exuberantly exclaimed, "So what do you wanna do tonight [including going out]?!" I gave a wishy washy answer cuz I myself had not thought it out. We started drinking wine on her balcony, but it has been a while since I have been in the game. I was too pussy to have kino. We talked for 10 minutes but her roommate came back. She and the dog joined us, so I spent the rest of the time chatting with her and her roommate. Fun time, but I didn't know how to isolate. The roommate mentioned that my girl had a tendency to walk around naked. My chick got a little excited when I mentioned I had an art friend who now was designing sex toys with her NYU education .

Anyway, the girl forgot she might have made plans with friends afterwards and was gonna hang with them. She asked me to let her know what I would be doing and meet up. She hugged me when we parted outside and thanked me for coming.

I texted her later that I was going to some lounge but "you and i should meet up afterwards " (Maybe that was too direct?). Did not actually have plans but did NOT want to tag along with her friends. Silence but she gave her location later when I texted her again.

Overall, I got mixed signals (she mentioned a few times how she is shy around people. She was talkative around me though).

Think I should hit her up in a week or two? I'd rather text "DTF?" instead of hanging out and not knowing her intentions. Might assume this fizzled out.

(01-25-2015 06:52 PM)olspice1588 Wrote:  UPDATE #1: Read the zero bangs thread and went for the very last option. Will report how she responds. Never been this ballsy before, but fortune favors the bold.

Update #2: She responded an hour later, "I don't have a lot of work at my place but wine is always good." Off I go Thursday

Update #3: Texted her a basic "8:00 tonight." Hadn't arranged the time during our Monday convo. Will NOT remessage her if doesn't respond. Should I just delete her number if I hypothetically don't hear back from her?



Update #4: We were supposed to hang out Thursday, and she responding hours later, apologizing that she forgot her friend had a going away party that night. She wanted to reschedule for the weekend.

I brought over wine, and she exuberantly exclaimed, "So what do you wanna do tonight [including going out]?!" I gave a wishy washy answer cuz I myself had not thought it out. We started drinking wine on her balcony, but it has been a while since I have been in the game. I was too pussy to have kino. We talked for 10 minutes but her roommate came back. She and the dog joined us, so I spent the rest of the time chatting with her and her roommate. Fun time, but I didn't know how to isolate. The roommate mentioned that my girl had a tendency to walk around naked. My chick got a little excited when I mentioned I had an art friend who now was designing sex toys with her NYU education .

Anyway, the girl forgot she might have made plans with friends afterwards and was gonna hang with them. She asked me to let her know what I would be doing and meet up. She hugged me when we parted outside and thanked me for coming.

I texted her later that I was going to some lounge but "you and i should meet up afterwards " (Maybe that was too direct?). Did not actually have plans but did NOT want to tag along with her friends. Silence but she gave her location later when I texted her again.

Overall, I got mixed signals (she mentioned a few times how she is shy around people. She was talkative around me though).

Think I should hit her up in a week or two? I'd rather text "DTF?" instead of hanging out and not knowing her intentions. Might assume this fizzled out.

Man, you have got to take those opportunities to get a sexually charged conversation going when they bring it up first. Walk around naked? You should have explored that conversation. Interest in the making of sex toys? Ask her why she's so curious. Those are fast balls down the plate man. You have to swing at those.

Still though, I think she's into you but probably thinks you're a little shy. Get her out again and next time be more direct/sexual. That's it really.

My dick is literally dead and sore from this weekend.

Friday - the 18 year old
Saturday - a 23 year old semi regular, lack of sleep, fighting whiskey dick, and fighting constant LMR
This bitch wanted me to fuck her, then after a bit wanted to stop, then I finger her and go down on her and she gets wet again and wants more, seriously this cycle went on for a fucking hour.
Sunday - A plate that comes over only to suck my dick, that head session was a bit of a struggle, took awhile for me to cum.
Tonight - I'm banging my main, I think I'll be fine, I need her to get some new outfits.

(01-26-2015 12:59 PM)kaotic Wrote:  My dick is literally dead and sore from this weekend.

Friday - the 18 year old
Saturday - a 23 year old semi regular, lack of sleep, fighting whiskey dick, and fighting constant LMR
This bitch wanted me to fuck her, then after a bit wanted to stop, then I finger her and go down on her and she gets wet again and wants more, seriously this cycle went on for a fucking hour.
Sunday - A plate that comes over only to suck my dick, that head session was a bit of a struggle, took awhile for me to cum.
Tonight - I'm banging my main, I think I'll be fine, I need her to get some new outfits.

Kaotic you're my inspiration right now on this forum. You came here with a bad mindset like I'm now and changed yourself completely. You are also the same height so my biggest limiting belief you overcome. The thing that differs from me physically is that you might be twice as me. I'm 150 lbs, skinny fat, but very slim built (I have like 18 inch shoulders length....can fit well only S(small) shirts) which makes me look very slim and weak).
As attitude I'm a bit different since I'm laid back and trying to not give a fuck.

Anyway, congrats for your evolution.

(01-26-2015 01:21 PM)bewater Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:59 PM)kaotic Wrote:  My dick is literally dead and sore from this weekend.

Friday - the 18 year old
Saturday - a 23 year old semi regular, lack of sleep, fighting whiskey dick, and fighting constant LMR
This bitch wanted me to fuck her, then after a bit wanted to stop, then I finger her and go down on her and she gets wet again and wants more, seriously this cycle went on for a fucking hour.
Sunday - A plate that comes over only to suck my dick, that head session was a bit of a struggle, took awhile for me to cum.
Tonight - I'm banging my main, I think I'll be fine, I need her to get some new outfits.

Kaotic you're my inspiration right now on this forum. You came here with a bad mindset like I'm now and changed yourself completely. You are also the same height so my biggest limiting belief you overcome. The thing that differs from me physically is that you might be twice as me. I'm 150 lbs, skinny fat, but very slim built (I have like 18 inch shoulders length....can fit well only S(small) shirts) which makes me look very slim and weak).
As attitude I'm a bit different since I'm laid back and trying to not give a fuck.

Anyway, congrats for your evolution.

Thanks man I appreciate it, and I'm here to explain my story (without giving me away) and experiences. In the hopes that everyone can learn from it and that I can learn more from forum members, newbies or the player gods.

Hey man right after high school I fit size Small Shirts and I was skinny fat (chubby face and a beer belly). I was thin as a rail anywhere else, I ate like shit and didn't workout - I also was a friendzone orbiter with some of the hottest girls from high school. I had shit game but managed to lose my virginity at 15.

The only game I had back then was being funny, that goes a long way with shit game man.

I cannot stress the importance of working out and eating healthy, your body will thank you over and over again and so will the women. I'm now bigger than ever, my face is skinnier and so is my body fat, I wear mediums, but I'm filling those out, fitting a large well is my next workout challenge.

My main loves my body, that girl who sucked my dick last night told me my arms look bigger, that world traveler with the fake tits said I look bigger also. It's the greatest feeling in the world - and women take notice !

There are so many resources for working regimes and eating, on RVF, Bodybuildling.com, and a ton of other sites.

The biggest problem ? MOTIVATION. Alot of people go a few weeks then fall off, you gotta have that fire under your ass and in your heart.

I go to the gym so I look good, I feel confident, it decompresses me (I work 7 days a week) and it's a win/win for inner game/game/looks.

and guess what ? I STILL feel like I could do WAY better lifting and eating - so I wrote a gym log and diet log to send to a personal trainer friend of mine.

You're more than welcome to PM me if you got any other questions or want to talk off topic.

Passed on fucking a Porto Rican 7. Had her in my clutch, but she talked so much shit about "not raping her" bc I'm much larger than her, and "wasn't sure about me" blah blah blah, that it ended in just finger bang, etc. She wouldn't suck my dick, assuming I was a player she might catch something from. Didn't have much for tits or woulda titty fucked her. So ended in groping, body rubs, sucking tits.

This bitch asks me to pick her up but spends half the night verbally disqualifying me to the point it killed my boner and the entire interaction. WTF? didn't want a God damned false rape charge against me... think I dodged a bullet. Oh, but she's Bi and wants me to send sex pics of girls I'm fucking. W...T....F...

kaotic is becoming the new soup

I need to get crucified for this.

Missed out on another sure bang due to not having the required drugs back at the place and because her water buffalo friend was cockblocking and my wing was no way going to handle that situation - I don't blame him.

Went to a underground bar on the Westside LA players are most likely familiar with. Wasn't really feeling it since it was a co worker friends last night b4 going back to NYC & I wasn't in a gaming mindset.

My wing was super drunk and on fire and carpet bombing. I was sort of playing assassin and watching for targets selectively. I was actually getting a lot of attitude because my frame was too asshole I think. Fast frwd to attempt to walk upstairs and this blonde 7.5 stops me in a rude way telling me I can't go upstairs. I ask her fat Asian 2 if that's the truth. Asian 2 says my charm won't get me anywhere. My initial instinct was to tear them both a new one but I swallowed the anger and gave a shit eating grin and walked away.

Felt like I needed to win this battle so I opened the same 7.5 blonde telling her she needs a drink because she is way to stressed out. Bought her a drink on my terms and she is just shit testing me nonstop. She even neggef one of my co workers who rolled my which made me lol. So we sit down and I run flirty attraction/comfort by feeding her bs about how she isn't like the rest of American girls. She instead shows me how she thinks american girls are by grabbin my face ad talking super dirty in my ear. I'm basically escalate immediately with firmness but restraint which I learnt from my previous miss last weekend.

Obv she asks if I have coke which I don't. Fast frwder I bounce her to my house ad my wig jumps the grenade. Things are going well at the crib until water buffalo shows up. My wing tells me no way bro and bounces so I have to juggle water buffalo and coke whore. Water buffalo starts giving coke whore a tough time and for some reason she starts crying. I'm pretty blitzed at this point. Finally the buffalo passes out in one of my rooms. I can't recall what I did after but all I can say is the 7.5 blonde slept in the same bed as me and nothing went down. I blame alcohol but that hasn't happened in over a decade.

Takeaways:
- stay in game mode
- don't admit defeat
- have party favours back home - if I had some it was so guaranteed even the buffalo would not be able to stop anything
- don't get blitzed to the point you can't escalate when you get the one on one

Crazy - I could be 4/4 in Jan but instead I'm 1/4 because of bad late game moves. let that e a lesson to everyone. It's never over till it's over.

/pardon my grammar on a mobile device/

Met a girl over the weekend. Just got the "who is this" text. Fuck.

Anyone have any success stories of converting a who is this into a hook up? Or trash the number?

Usually open them with an inside joke or something from the night we met so they know it's me without even having to say my name, but for this, our interaction was so short, establishing rapport was not possible.

(01-26-2015 08:24 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Met a girl over the weekend. Just got the "who is this" text. Fuck.

Anyone have any success stories of converting a who is this into a hook up? Or trash the number?

Usually open them with an inside joke or something from the night we met so they know it's me without even having to say my name, but for this, our interaction was so short, establishing rapport was not possible.

Text

"It's Mr. X, the handsome, tall ( if you're tall or insert whatever other positive physical attribute you may have like , muscular, etc) guy you met at ............ You didn't save my number?" or "how's your week?" etc.

or tease her with your next text being "you didn't save my number...after the connection we made?"

she'll text back wanting to know who you are...then you say:

"It's the handsome, ( tall, muscular, ...these are optional but use handsome) guy you met at .......... Ring a bell?"

these are about the best you can do to salvage this low probability situation. That is, assumptive over confidence.

She might be shit testing you. I've had a girl do this to me on the phone a couple of months ago.

Reply with an inside joke or something like robreke suggested. Do not lose your frame on this.

I didn't respond with anything funny or cocky. I feel like if I were to say "It's Mister X, that amazing blah blah blah dude," it would come off as try hard, or insecure that she didn't know who I was initially. So it's almost like I'm saying "what?! You don't know who I am? I'm a great guy!"

I said very plainly "Mister X from Saturday"

A big sticking point for me personally is anytime a girl throws either a potential shit test at me (if she did know who it was and was fucking with me) or if she's low interest - I don't let it rattle me.

Mister X from Saturday. That's who I am. She can take me or leave me.

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