(01-14-2015 05:00 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  She does and my girl goes after her to tell her that she's fine and we're just joking.

I wouldn't have found that acceptable.

Why would she need to tell the random busybody that she was fine?

Damn it.

Just got SIF'd off a Moroccan girl on Tinder.

Matched with her thinking she had an OK face and looked to be thin. She mentioned she did a shit-ton of sports so I thought she'd be the athletic type. Plus the chance at a Moroccan flag had me intrigued.

I was wondering on the way over if I've have to have a fight between my brain and boner for whether to move on this girl.

Nope. Not even a question, it was a no.

To be fair, her face was actually better in person, but the body ..... yeah, I just couldn't deal. It was clear the photos were from several years ago at least.

Ended up making polite conversation for an hour and then making an excuse to leave. The second I was out of her eyesight, I pulled out my phone and blocked her number.

At least, tomorrow is Thursday, and the promise of another weekend of nights out gaming.

Onto the next one.

HSLD

The worst ones are not actually the SIF as they're easily recognizable

The ones that USED to be fat but are now skinny and normal looking and lost considerable weight are awful. There no way to know. Once you take their clothes off their stomach arms and boobs feel like mushy skin. Touching their boobs is the worst. Instant boner killer.

Lost a garunteed swoop and bang on a hot Veit and German mixed girl with a bubble butt. I had her and her two friends and I navigated off who was most willing to fuck versus going for the hottest broad. I defused her by esrmkng her up and building rapport. She was feeling me and kept dropping compliments. I was dumb sniffing around her friends. Her Brazilian friend was drunk as fuck so I sniffed and then let that one die. Her Jew friend was the easiest lead. I can tell when a girl wants it and she was going to put up the least games. I waffled on both all night. I ended up going for the kill on the Jew friend last minute st the end of the night. She was down but I took to long, and she was on her rag and wouldn't come home with me. Fuck. I should of just kept it chill with the hottest broad. I got impatient as usual.

I swooped the hottest girls number but after a cab ride with her friend she likely clock blocked since she aint texting back.

I got SIF'ed by a woman who I'd met in the club. How does this happen? I was drunk when I met her and did not remember how she looked. Trusting myself that there was no way I'd talk to something under a 7 at the club, I accepted the pic she sent me through text as someone attractive even if the picture was only her face (the face is cute). We met up to get drinks last night and she was borderline fat, like mere ounces away from being fully fat. Fuck!

I cannot believe guys that have experience and read this board get SIF'd still.

Don't reward bad behavior which includes not showing off a fit body in photos.

Just don't do it or have the balls to ask for a full body photo and say you like to see that girls you are interested in are healthy fit and athletic.

Spend more time on yourself.

The chance of bang vs SIF isn't worth it overall. It is 2 steps back 1 step forward.

Up your standards guys!

(01-14-2015 09:01 AM)Thesoloist Wrote:  How long would you wait to meet a new girl

Had a girl whom I matched with on Tinder, but because I'll be out of town next week and she is house sitting in a different part of town this week (140 miles away) we won't be able to meet up for 3 weeks

Personally speaking I'm always pipe-lining IRL and online but 3 weeks to me is not worth it unless the girl is smoking hot (this girl is a 6)

thoughts on how long you would wait? usually the sooner you meet a chick the better to much time lags and interest dies down quick

Unless you can keep rapport up for that long aka become a texting buddy dropping bread crumbs every other day or so, you might as well say fuck it.

Fuck yes you meet them asap, strike while the iron is hot, might as well shelf this as a cold lead, and why are you even bothering with a 6 on Tinder of all places ? IRL she's probably a 5 man.

(01-15-2015 02:29 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  I cannot believe guys that have experience and read this board get SIF'd still.

Don't reward bad behavior which includes not showing off a fit body in photos.

Just don't do it or have the balls to ask for a full body photo and say you like to see that girls you are interested in are healthy fit and athletic.

Spend more time on yourself.

The chance of bang vs SIF isn't worth it overall. It is 2 steps back 1 step forward.

Up your standards guys!

I cannot agree more with this, how do you not get a selfie, snoop her IG, or have her send you a body selfie ?

It's pretty easy and it's also a submission test. You should never be afraid to ask - I'll always joke saying "hey how do I know you aren't just a pretty face and a 500lb body ?" (or something of that nature)

It's common sense, ALWAYS recon a girl before meeting her to make sure you aren't getting fooled.

I always check full body photos when online dating. I'd say, "send me a full body pic so I know you aren't fat since a lot of women do that. You wouldn't do that, right?" Then they'll send it. I actually met this girl in person so I didn't think I had to verify her fatness or non-fatness since we had met in person. I guess my standards had gone down due to being pretty inebriated.

(01-15-2015 02:54 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I cannot agree more with this, how do you not get a selfie, snoop her IG, or have her send you a body selfie ?

It's pretty easy and it's also a submission test. You should never be afraid to ask - I'll always joke saying "hey how do I know you aren't just a pretty face and a 500lb body ?" (or something of that nature)

It's common sense, ALWAYS recon a girl before meeting her to make sure you aren't getting fooled.

Yup, lesson learned on that count haha

HSLD

Got friendly enough with a plate I'd hang out with her even if we didn't have sex due to common interests and personalities which is rare for me with a girl.

She was sending me texts to come over for sex.

We made a pact not too long ago if either of us had sex with someone else we would let each other know when we hang out next that if we choose to do that we wait 2 weeks to fuck again (time it takes for many STDs to show first break out symptoms). I did this because of stories both in my personal life and on here of people contracting herpes. For my lifestyle I really don't want to pass anything I get to her or vice versa.

I just banged another chick (used a condom) so I broke it to her that I just had safe sex with someone else and wanted to wait before we had sex again.

Radio silence lol.

No idea how this is going to turn out... fun little experiment to see how a girl reacts.

Any guesses?

Out at a spot grubbing and doing some work,
Couple appears to be on their first date. Dude is apologizing and yakking about this, that, and a third.

Dude goes on for the side hug...he walks, she rolls her eyes.

Try hard dude is not getting anywhere. I feel for him. She's not that tight, but any number of hombres would be all over that.

When you first meet a chick it's not unusual to do 90% of the talking. But on a date, it should be getting closer to 50/50.

WIA

(01-15-2015 08:18 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Got friendly enough with a plate I'd hang out with her even if we didn't have sex due to common interests and personalities which is rare for me with a girl.

She was sending me texts to come over for sex.

We made a pact not too long ago if either of us had sex with someone else we would let each other know when we hang out next that if we choose to do that we wait 2 weeks to fuck again (time it takes for many STDs to show first break out symptoms). I did this because of stories both in my personal life and on here of people contracting herpes. For my lifestyle I really don't want to pass anything I get to her or vice versa.

I just banged another chick (used a condom) so I broke it to her that I just had safe sex with someone else and wanted to wait before we had sex again.

Radio silence lol.

No idea how this is going to turn out... fun little experiment to see how a girl reacts.

Any guesses?

I'd probably guess she'd be a bit stung that you banged someone else, she'll either next herself, try to reel you in as more than a cool fuck buddy, or she'll come back eventually.

Personally I'd never tell her I was banging, even if she was super cool, as soon as a girl hears those words, her hamster takes over, regardless.

I'd love an update on her reaction/non reaction.

(01-15-2015 09:40 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Out at a spot grubbing and doing some work,
Couple appears to be on their first date. Dude is apologizing and yakking about this, that, and a third.

Dude goes on for the side hug...he walks, she rolls her eyes.

Try hard dude is not getting anywhere. I feel for him. She's not that tight, but any number of hombres would be all over that.

When you first meet a chick it's not unusual to do 90% of the talking. But on a date, it should be getting closer to 50/50.

WIA

I cannot STAND when dudes are apologizing for the smallest things.

90% ? That's wayyyy too much IMHO. I like 50/50 but I usually let her do all the talking, because as she talks, I'm taking notes, letting her get comfortable, and it eases the anxiety/stress of the "first date". Occasionally I'll take over when it comes to certain topics or a funny story I had.

(01-16-2015 02:07 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I'd probably guess she'd be a bit stung that you banged someone else, she'll either next herself, try to reel you in as more than a cool fuck buddy, or she'll come back eventually.

Personally I'd never tell her I was banging, even if she was super cool, as soon as a girl hears those words, her hamster takes over, regardless.

I'd love an update on her reaction/non reaction.

I never would either lol. The answer either way to her final reaction I think will give me some wisdom on how girls think.

Neither would I. I would never tell a girl that I banged another one, be it true or not.

(01-15-2015 02:29 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  I cannot believe guys that have experience and read this board get SIF'd still.

Don't reward bad behavior which includes not showing off a fit body in photos.

Just don't do it or have the balls to ask for a full body photo and say you like to see that girls you are interested in are healthy fit and athletic.

Spend more time on yourself.

The chance of bang vs SIF isn't worth it overall. It is 2 steps back 1 step forward.

Up your standards guys!

i occasionally get online women sending me old photos back when they were thin. there is no real guarantee with the online dating minefield. What i disagree with is waiting around for an hour before leaving. You say "i just remembered, I have to go pick up a buddy from the airport, great meeting you" and then run after about 5 minutes. you do not owe these lying women anything. if you don't feel like lying, just say "i have to go" and then leave, or get up and leave if it is really bad.

I've been seeing more and more posts where you veterans say that one of the reasons girls won't sleep with you is because she doesn't want to be pumped and dumped.

I for one can not understand how this could be one valid reason. Aren't women basically promiscuous and hypergamous? Let's assume she's at least a 6-7 (which are what I hit on) living in a big metropolitan. No such girl is really looking for a LTR, they are looking to ride the carousel and IF she happens to find a good horse then she will lock him down while still banging on the side. They have options and are never afraid to jump ship. Girls are even more afraid of commitment than men nowadays.

Why would the fear of being pumped and dumped be a valid excuse in their head? Girls are doing the pumping and dumping.

I have mostly been posting on the Everything Else threads (e.g. Charlie Hebdo shootings) because lately I've been thinking a lot, like I used to when I was younger.

I think that switch has happened because girls are a non-issue for me now. I banged two new girls last weekend and have many lined up and frankly it has stopped motivating me much.

Just wanted to say thanks to the major forum members for "adding value" to my life, giving me food for thought and also a place to write down idea and get feedback on it.

I have crossed off so many niche bucket list bang items off my list this last year and a half that I am now forced into higher and higher quality because edge case bangs are all old hat.

I hope to get high enough quality in the next few years that my dick will finally be sated enough to turn my head toward $ and freedom. Right now climbing the pussy ladder is still too much fun to change my focus.

Introduced another man whose about 5 years older than me to masculine teachings:

At the bar with my main last night see this guy that frequents a place I shop we chatted, turns out alot of bad shit happened:

The man:
Good looking guy, has a player look to him, 35ish ? Less than a year divorced, an infant kid, was renting a room, mom wants him not to get much visitation time.

The ex-wife:
Let herself go, doesn't cook, doesn't clean, hardly took care of the kid, doesn't work, he even checked the sleeper timer on the TV, she averaged about 6 HOURS a day watching bullshit.

The marriage:
Good in the beginning, as they all are. Then she started getting lazier and lazier, a few other issues, the guy even told he felt like she was trying to be one of real wives of (X city) bullshit girls.

The new girlfriend:
He started seeing this girl before the divorce, she has a kid also (mentioned it's easier to relate to her since they both have a kid). She's cute, personable around people, however COMPLETELY insecure and extremely jealous around him. Ex. He introduced her to the bartenders and she asked him if he's slept with any of them or if he "talks" to them.

I seriously cut him off and said, "you need to break up with this girl ASAP" my girl chimes in and says "she's only going to get worse".

Talking to the guy more, I noticed that he lost his masculinity and sense of being a man.

He admitted his new girl chipped away at him and molded him into what she wanted. I said he made compromises and she needs to accept him for what he is.

He does mma, lifts, but....doesn't have many friends. He always was doing couples things with his wife and his wife won the friends in his divorce. He even admitted its harder meeting new friends when you get older.

I went on a rant for about a good 30-40 minutes (with my main agreeing, giving good input, and confirming how girls thing) and told him the following:

-Drop his new girl, she isn't good, she'll get worse and its toxic.
-Keep lifting and eating right.
-Focus on your life and your kid, be fucking selfish.
-Go out with his brother and wing with him (his brother is decent player).
-Stop apologizing (he was apologizing that he was taking time from me and my girl)
-Work on his inner game, self awareness, and self worth.
-STOP PUTTING PUSSY ON THE PEDESTAL.
-Fuck what people think.
-He's got a second chance at life, GRAB THAT SHIT BY THE BALLS.

I had my girl, the bartending girls, and a few guys at the bar agreeing with what I was saying.

Dare I say - even went as far as saying out aloud "feminism is an important piece of what is destroying what makes a man, I mean look at how girls are acting...like dudes ! RATCHETS are perfect example, and look at these little boys acting like fucking women, its horrible."

He talked more about his relationship and I pointed mine out, "She knows I don't put up with bullshit and I don't give it either. She knows I'll be gone and I won't think twice about it. The reason she IS around is because she complements my life and I don't make any compromises." My girl smiled and agreed and rubbed my leg.

Then this happened, a man sat down at the bar towards the end of my rant, he looks like he's in mid 40's, he's actually 53, and in shape.

This guy came in at the perfect time, seriously, he's must've been a fucking saint sent by god himself.

This older gent is divorces kids are almost my age, and he's having a fucking blast.

He tells his story to the guy I was talking to - almost everything I was saying he should improve, this man did.

Everything this older guy was saying he fucked up, the younger I was advising, did the same thing.

I'd point out the blunders, the way women acted, it was just perfect, everything I was talking about was being reinforced by this older guy.

It was a beautiful moment.

His girl was getting mad he wasn't responding, he accidentally answered and hung up her call, she texted"well just don't call then"

I told him, "fuck her, don't, call her bluff, let her hamster mind spin, trust me, she'll be blowing up your phone tomorrow"

We exchanged numbers and told him we should go out and wing together some day.

Maybe someday I'll introduce him to RVF...maybe.

Just went out with a 35 year old single mom. She's cute and in shape but damn...just something about older women I'm having trouble getting around.

It's actually crazy as I'm in my 40s...but this girl almost seemed too old for me. Her more 'wants to be in control' attitude was kind of prevalent too. She had a semi 80s haircut and you can see lines starting to develop around the lips.

In addition to the hotness factor, I just love the innocence and fun nature of girls 18-25ish. I guess I'm spoiled on that and dating a girl in her 30s is not as stimulating.

I kissed her at the end and she gave me closed mouth/tight lipped. She was just going for a side hug deal. She kind of blushed and made a weird half smile expression with her eyes darting sideways after. I said "have a good one"

I was mulling over that weird kiss on the way home from the date when she texted me she had a great time. She's also hinted during the date she didn't have her kid this weekend and what am I doing tomorrow night. I'll probably text her back in the morning and may invite her to drink with me and my buddy tomorrow. I'm not sure yet as I'm wrestling inwardly with getting used to dating an older gal. I guess if it's just a bang, it's worth it.

Oh well, I did get a college freshman's number at the coffee shop this week and she texted back. But, I'm waiting to hit her up until Monday.

Man, was rolling through the old hood last week.
2 chicks I wanted to bang back in the day switched teams.

WIA

(01-16-2015 11:22 PM)robreke Wrote:  Just went out with a 35 year old single mom...It's actually crazy as I'm in my 40s...but this girl almost seemed too old for me.

She IS too old for you!

(01-16-2015 11:22 PM)robreke Wrote:  Just went out with a 35 year old single mom. She's cute and in shape but damn...just something about older women I'm having trouble getting around.

It's actually crazy as I'm in my 40s...but this girl almost seemed too old for me. Her more 'wants to be in control' attitude was kind of prevalent too. She had a semi 80s haircut and you can see lines starting to develop around the lips.

In addition to the hotness factor, I just love the innocence and fun nature of girls 18-25ish. I guess I'm spoiled on that and dating a girl in her 30s is not as stimulating.

I kissed her at the end and she gave me closed mouth/tight lipped. She was just going for a side hug deal. She kind of blushed and made a weird half smile expression with her eyes darting sideways after. I said "have a good one"

I was mulling over that weird kiss on the way home from the date when she texted me she had a great time. She's also hinted during the date she didn't have her kid this weekend and what am I doing tomorrow night. I'll probably text her back in the morning and may invite her to drink with me and my buddy tomorrow. I'm not sure yet as I'm wrestling inwardly with getting used to dating an older gal. I guess if it's just a bang, it's worth it.

Oh well, I did get a college freshman's number at the coffee shop this week and she texted back. But, I'm waiting to hit her up until Monday.

The bold part summed it all.

She's a single mom. Good for nothing else, except banging.

There is a very good article on ROK that sums it all:

http://www.returnofkings.com/31153/8-ess...single-mom

(01-16-2015 11:22 PM)robreke Wrote:  Just went out with a 35 year old single mom. She's cute and in shape but damn...just something about older women I'm having trouble getting around.

It's actually crazy as I'm in my 40s...but this girl almost seemed too old for me. Her more 'wants to be in control' attitude was kind of prevalent too. She had a semi 80s haircut and you can see lines starting to develop around the lips.

In addition to the hotness factor, I just love the innocence and fun nature of girls 18-25ish. I guess I'm spoiled on that and dating a girl in her 30s is not as stimulating.

I kissed her at the end and she gave me closed mouth/tight lipped. She was just going for a side hug deal. She kind of blushed and made a weird half smile expression with her eyes darting sideways after. I said "have a good one"

I was mulling over that weird kiss on the way home from the date when she texted me she had a great time. She's also hinted during the date she didn't have her kid this weekend and what am I doing tomorrow night. I'll probably text her back in the morning and may invite her to drink with me and my buddy tomorrow. I'm not sure yet as I'm wrestling inwardly with getting used to dating an older gal. I guess if it's just a bang, it's worth it.

Oh well, I did get a college freshman's number at the coffee shop this week and she texted back. But, I'm waiting to hit her up until Monday.

Yea man I'm 40.5, I know what you're gettin at. The odd thing I'm noticing is even the 30+ women, 80% of which have kids, are getting a lot of attention from online guys 3-8 years younger than them. Just in past 3 years if I got with a 30+ woman it was almost always a SNL, in the bag. I pretty much look the same still.

Now I'm getting more resistance from them, sometimes it's logistics but they're pretending to idle down their carousel days since they realize each guy going forward is one guy closer to the last decent looking man they can get... the wall becomes real for some of these broads, and I give them credit for noticing.

The irony of it all is I'm getting major IOIs in public from complete strangers & loose social circle acquaintances in the 23-28 age range, yet they're a lot better at playing the initial "hard to get" aloof shield than the lower SMV 30+ girls.

I had a 34 yr. old 7 I recently met up at bar from Zoosk. Has kids, 5'1", tiny about 100lbs., bordering on skinny-fat but supple skin still. She played that in control b.s. right off the bat, was frankly kind of rude so when I went to bar to get drinks I struck up a convo with the hottest waitress, and another girl sitting at bar waiting for my drinks (touche).

It didn't phase her. Then her fuckin loud mouth friend showed up mysteriously. Got the make out at night's end however, and her follow up text next day complimenting me, saying had good time blah blah.

But something just did not sit right with me about her. I gave her a soft pass and ghosted her, thinking I dodged a bullet with this one. I don't take well to an older girl tryin to leverage her game over me when I just didn't see how she has much SMV, let alone STR/LTR value.

Met this chick at a work convention today. She's a solid 15 years older than me, but she's a rocket. Insane body, all into yoga and healthy living.

If I keep it tight, I'll bang her good. My two hangups are that we both work in the same niche field and will cross paths again professionally, and she's much older than me. But damn she's sexy for her age.