I totally fucked it up with a top shelf girl. Problem is, is that it was presented on a silver platter to me at a networking event. I was presented as a big fish, with both of us having knowledge that we were single.

I feel that sometimes when poon gets presented to you too easily, the girl has lower expectations just because she's getting set up for it. When I make a cold approach, she has no idea what is about to happen and gets that 'swept off her feet' feeling.

Fuck. Damn. Shit. She is gorgeous, and a fucking interesting girl. Models and owns her own yoga studio. Has climbed Everest base camps, and driven from Accra to Cape Town.

I'll throw a Hail Mary to salvage it, but it's not looking good.

Howd you fuck it up

I wasn't hungry, partly because of the intro we were given to each other before we met.

It basically went, "Hey MaleDefined, there's a quality girl who will be there. She's definitely for you."

On her end, someone said, "Hey there's this guy named MaleDefined who will be there. You should chat with him."

It kind of lost its spark as a result.

She texted me tonight, actually. I'm heading out of country tomorrow for a conference the next couple weeks, so maybe a little scarcity and a rekindling will be good.

I have recently learned that it's not worth it to game a 6 or below, even just to get warmed up.

If you game a 6 or below: she wil either think 1) you're making fun of her which leads to a negative reaction 2) you're too lame to game a 9 which leads to a negative reaction 3) and since she a 6 is still a woman, she dreams of being able to reject a man, which leads to a negative reaction, so not only 7-9's are more fun and attractive to game, I find they're easier to day game (and receptive), and in case of rejection it's so much more less humiliating.

(01-08-2015 04:01 PM)LouEvilSlugger Wrote:  I have recently learned that it's not worth it to game a 6 or below, even just to get warmed up.

If you game a 6 or below: she wil either think 1) you're making fun of her which leads to a negative reaction 2) you're too lame to game a 9 which leads to a negative reaction 3) and since she a 6 is still a woman, she dreams of being able to reject a man, which leads to a negative reaction, so not only 7-9's are more fun and attractive to game, I find they're easier to day game (and receptive), and in case of rejection it's so much more less humiliating.

Yup, always focus hotter girls man, the rest of the girls are just background noise.

If all men in society were like this it give girls a huge reality check and more would fall in line to be in shape, be more feminine, and dress to impress.

It's so nice enjoy women who are hot and feminine.

(01-08-2015 04:01 PM)LouEvilSlugger Wrote:  I have recently learned that it's not worth it to game a 6 or below, even just to get warmed up.

If you game a 6 or below: she wil either think 1) you're making fun of her which leads to a negative reaction 2) you're too lame to game a 9 which leads to a negative reaction 3) and since she a 6 is still a woman, she dreams of being able to reject a man, which leads to a negative reaction, so not only 7-9's are more fun and attractive to game, I find they're easier to day game (and receptive), and in case of rejection it's so much more less humiliating.

You got me cracked up. There will always be a negative ending no matter how you approach a 6. I guess that applies to less than 6s to a large extent.

I had a virgin 20yo give me her first blowjob ever last night. She thinks I am 25 and a grad student. I'm not.

I caught it on camera.

I gave her the polite notion I was about to cum. She got half her in her mouth half out. She seemed to love it.

She asked me if she should have swallowed, I stupidly said "hey well it's really up to the girl if she's into it".

She said:

"Isn't it what the guy wants? That's what all the bad bitches that are cool do nowadays right?" - Damn girls are so easily corruptible these days!

I stupidly began to retort and say NAWALT. Then I just STFU and said:

"Yeah I want you to swallow."

Her: "Ok next time "

Me in my after orgasm head hazed whispered : "I'll remember that".

Am I bad a person?

I almost don't believe she is a virgin because she loves weed, and seems really horny. I do believe because she is 6 feet tall and has big tits and an ass but slender arms and legs as she was a tennis player (harder for her to find taller guys). She is from a whitewashed from a very conservative background. She also has that very mature for her age thing going on and is trying to become a doctor.

Sidebar:
*This is the third virgin I have had sexual relations with in the last 6 months all from cold day approaches at a university campus. Before this I had only got naked and handjobs from 2 other virgins many years ago. WTF is going on? The only difference is the other two I started Indirect with. This one was Direct. My first sexual experience from a completely direct day game approach. Had dates before and gotten really close.

Has anyone else banged 3 virgins within a 6 month time period in the U.S.? I am mystified.

(01-08-2015 11:24 AM)Lothario Wrote:  I am going to imprint the mantra Always go for the Bang in my head.

Damn straight. Always go for the bang.
I have a further one: Always put full effort into the bang. An unfulfilled girl is not a repeat customer.

Found an 8.5 (9 depending on your taste) low 20s black girl off of Tinder...well she found me.

Over a year ago we talked but I didn't proceed due to trave/options so almost a year later she contacts me and we reconnect.

Took it slow but I got the bang on the 3rd date. Since I know she was already into me there was no need to press. She will be my number one option of three for my winter harem.

Got flaked on last night for the first time in a long while. Girls would show up late or show up at the wrong place but they would always show up. Last night she didn't show up at all. I got there on time, ordered a drink and knew somehow she wouldn't come so I instead of rationalizing or feeling sorry for myself, I started approaching around and tindering right away, matched with 3 girls and got their number pretty easily. I pushed for a meeting later on but got rejected by all three ("This weekend but not tonight"). I ended up changing venue and approached some girls, scoring another number before calling it a night. It wasn't a bad night overall, but I've realized the importance of having plan B or at least a back up strategy.

First time daygaming since I've been back in Canada.

Managed to score the number of a Polish-Jewish 8 using the Laptop Opener from Day Bang on my second approach. Texted her four hours later (just a "hey it was cool chatting with you - HSLD" text to see if the number would be good. So far nothing back.

I ended up running an approach on another girl that, as it turns out, I nightgamed three years ago back when I was just starting to understand game at all. No number, but a funny coincidence.

The rest was a couple IHAB and a smattering of no-hooks.

I figure I'll need a bit of time to get used to daygaming without being a foreigner like in Europe. Early days yet..

As well, I've managed to find an effective nightgame wingman. He's more skilled in the Game department than I am, so I'll benefit from observing him and him observing me (for body language, vibe, etc.) Gonna be going back out tonight with him - first weekend back for all the Queen's Uni students so it's going to be crazy packed.

HSLD

Good all purpose cold-snap opener - "Negative 83 degrees and you still manage to look stylish out there. Nice!" Positive responses so far.

Jealousy can be healthy:

I got to a bar with my regular HB 8, I walk around the bar and say what's up to my friends bartending, the owner (a lady) and couple other gents watching the game.

My girl always says "you just know everyone don't you ? Why do you know so many people?"

To which I response "who the fuck wouldn't WANT to know me?" I never give her a straight answer.

Last week the owner got shitfaced and made out with a few guys and said me and my friend were gonna fuck her as a joke, but....I know she's being serious.

I bring it up to the owner when my girl is sitting next to me and she gives a bit of stink eye but starts laughing when the owner tells the story and how she banged some dudes on a trip down south. (She's seriously such a lush and she's pushing past 40, thick, with some big old' knockers)

This is where it gets interesting:


I feel a soft punch on my back and think it's my main, turns out it's my good friends girlfriends cute little sister. I've always teased her and been a bit of an asshole to her. I also banged her super hot 8.5 friend a few times.

She's starts blabbing away and I keep my answers shorts, my main turns her body away and starts looking at stuff on her phone, I can just tell she's a bit irritated.

I start realizing this girl is standing there, playing with her hair, leaning into me, and not even acknowledging my main girl. A light bulb lit up....this chick just opened me, because she's realized I've nailed a few girls she's friends with .

Anyways, she stops blabbing goes backs to her sausage fest table. Then this banging hot feminine girl in a short leatherish skirt and tight top, hugging her huge titties walks in by herself.

I mean this girl is BEGGING to be opened, she talks to my bartender friend about a certain hockey team, to which I scoff and say "oh god you're a -derogatory word- fan", she laughs and we start talking shit about sports, she's from a major city that I was born in.

We start talking about baseball and a certain ballfield in her city that I've done a drunk pubcrawl after games. We start naming places.

-my girls storms out to smoke a cigg-

We keep talking about other shit, how she only has one night off, she's new to town and laughed about how people think it's cold around here. We talk about a few other things as my girl walks back in.

I could tell she was irritated haha, the girl I opened bounces, and I laugh and say "hey what can I say, people love me" to which she said "oh I wasn't worried (hamster), I'm the hottest girl at this bar and you're fucking me tonight"

Needless to say she was all over me the rest of the night and in bed. I can tell she was trying to prove her self worth to me more than usual.

Like I said...sometimes these things are healthy.

Oh got a +1 notch tonight, will detail it.

Just cold approached a waitress in the restaurant, Line ID closed. I don't usually do cold approaches, but considering the IOI she was giving me, I just had to do it.

Polarizing might be the best thing yet!

I had a Tinder date last Tuesday which was rather bland - she's sexy, but the conversation was boring and I was not on top of my game either - tired as hell from work. She messages me couple of days later saying she a good time, and I respond by saying "thanks!". She accuses me off having a big ego and demands an honest opinion on the date. I basically tell her "you can't handle the truth", but she insists.

I say that I think she attractive and I wouldn't hesitate for a second to find out if she sleeps naked (one of my favourite questions, when they ask a question, usually about something trivial and then I get to ask one in return and follow up by asking whether they sleep naked or not. It gets their hamster spinning at light speed), but that the date was rather boring. She goes into radio silence for days and responded only today saying that she want's to try again, but on her terms: she'll pick a place and we'll wear a sexy dress.

I think I'm going

(01-10-2015 06:37 AM)Angry Beaver Wrote:  Polarizing might be the best thing yet!

I had a Tinder date last Tuesday which was rather bland - she's sexy, but the conversation was boring and I was not on top of my game either - tired as hell from work. She messages me couple of days later saying she a good time, and I respond by saying "thanks!". She accuses me off having a big ego and demands an honest opinion on the date. I basically tell her "you can't handle the truth", but she insists.

I say that I think she attractive and I wouldn't hesitate for a second to find out if she sleeps naked (one of my favourite questions, when they ask a question, usually about something trivial and then I get to ask one in return and follow up by asking whether they sleep naked or not. It gets their hamster spinning at light speed), but that the date was rather boring. She goes into radio silence for days and responded only today saying that she want's to try again, but on her terms: she'll pick a place and we'll wear a sexy dress.

I think I'm going

Yes Sir, Polarize to avoid being put on the long term track or worse friendzoned.

AngryBeaver I think you have a very high likelihood of banging this one, Gun for it and report back.

(01-10-2015 12:32 AM)kaotic Wrote:  ...

Great stuff, can tell you are really honing relationship game with a hot chick like this, something I have little experience in and should try out more! You're game is looking very solid.

Scheduled a date for Tuesday with the girl I closed at the restaurant.

It turns out she has 2 jobs and also works part time at Subway. This is a good sign that she won't object when I ask her to make me a sandwich.

Had a Tinder date on Friday night with a cute little Singaporean import whose number I got 2 months ago but who is only in town on weekends as she works out in the country. I'd never wanted to waste a weekend night on her so I'd just maintained sporadic contact however I'd decided to clean out my number backlog and also had a free Friday night so scheduled her for a date.

It poured down rain as I was walking from my place to my usual nearby first date bar so unfortunately I ended up arriving looking a bit like a drowned rat when I rocked up but I soon dried out.
The date went well, we had good conversation and I had her laughing a lot. We talked about Singapore, movies, coffee and I told her stories about when I lived in Shanghai and Milan, etc. I let her get settled in and comfortable and got the kino going however she was not responsive at all. She seemed to be having a good time but did not initiate any physical contact back at all. When I escalated my kino by letting my hand linger on her back or leg she would shift away.
However she didn't seem uncomfortable as she didn't try and end the date or anything so I chalked it up to the Asian background and didn't worry about it too much. I've also been really bad on dates in the past with not escalating so I'm trying to make a real effort to escalate until I get rejected.
After a couple of drinks I wound it up and told her to give me a ride home as it was still raining and she'd driven, which she agreed to. Thinking that in private she may be a bit more responsive I decided to push again and put my hand on her leg for the short drive to my place, which she seemed fine with. We pull up at my place and I go for the kiss with no worries although she is reluctant for the second one, saying "it's our first date". I push past that and try to escalate but she isn't having it so I say goodnight and get out.

I text her the next evening saying "hey, I had fun last night" and she responds 5 hours later with "Hey I had fun too. But I won't mind staying as friends "

I'm a bit disappointed and surprised by this as I thought the date had gone well. However I'm thinking maybe once she had a think about it she was put off by my kino and escalation?

I'm going to text her back Sunday evening and tell her I have enough friends and see what she says.

(01-10-2015 09:57 PM)Roardog Wrote:  Had a Tinder date on Friday night with a cute little Singaporean import whose number I got 2 months ago but who is only in town on weekends as she works out in the country. I'd never wanted to waste a weekend night on her so I'd just maintained sporadic contact however I'd decided to clean out my number backlog and also had a free Friday night so scheduled her for a date.

It poured down rain as I was walking from my place to my usual nearby first date bar so unfortunately I ended up arriving looking a bit like a drowned rat when I rocked up but I soon dried out.
The date went well, we had good conversation and I had her laughing a lot. We talked about Singapore, movies, coffee and I told her stories about when I lived in Shanghai and Milan, etc. I let her get settled in and comfortable and got the kino going however she was not responsive at all. She seemed to be having a good time but did not initiate any physical contact back at all. When I escalated my kino by letting my hand linger on her back or leg she would shift away.
However she didn't seem uncomfortable as she didn't try and end the date or anything so I chalked it up to the Asian background and didn't worry about it too much. I've also been really bad on dates in the past with not escalating so I'm trying to make a real effort to escalate until I get rejected.
After a couple of drinks I wound it up and told her to give me a ride home as it was still raining and she'd driven, which she agreed to. Thinking that in private she may be a bit more responsive I decided to push again and put my hand on her leg for the short drive to my place, which she seemed fine with. We pull up at my place and I go for the kiss with no worries although she is reluctant for the second one, saying "it's our first date". I push past that and try to escalate but she isn't having it so I say goodnight and get out.

I text her the next evening saying "hey, I had fun last night" and she responds 5 hours later with "Hey I had fun too. But I won't mind staying as friends "

I'm a bit disappointed and surprised by this as I thought the date had gone well. However I'm thinking maybe once she had a think about it she was put off by my kino and escalation?

I'm going to text her back Sunday evening and tell her I have enough friends and see what she says.

I've lived in singapore for 6 years and I can tell you that your dalliances with most Singaporean women will be limited to make outs and butt grabbing at best. If you want the notch, find someone who's more dtf or accept the fact that you'll have to play the LTR card.

I'm assuming you don't live in singapore; many Singaporeans live in singapore their entire lives and don't go abroad until they're 18 for studies. As such, their Singaporean "culture" (if you can even call it culture) is still strongly rooted in them.

I've written at length about my experience in sigapore in this thread:-

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-40816.html

(01-10-2015 10:08 PM)Agreddor Wrote:  

(01-10-2015 09:57 PM)Roardog Wrote:  ----

I've lived in singapore for 6 years and I can tell you that your dalliances with most Singaporean women will be limited to make outs and butt grabbing at best. If you want the notch, find someone who's more dtf or accept the fact that you'll have to play the LTR card.

I'm assuming you don't live in singapore; many Singaporeans live in singapore their entire lives and don't go abroad until they're 18 for studies. As such, their Singaporean "culture" (if you can even call it culture) is still strongly rooted in them.

I've written at length about my experience in sigapore in this thread:-

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-40816.html

I don't live in Singapore but I was there recently for a business trip for a week and I got the SG flag then so I don't need this chick for the flag. I read your thread before I left and it was quite handy, thanks for that.

Sounds like I should just Next this chick as she's definitely not DTF and there is no way I'm playing the LTR card.

I just pulled a Kaotic (went in raw) on that British bitch I mentioned a couple pages back


I went through her phone when she took a shower to ironically get ready for her boyfriend as they were going to hang out later. Read some funny texts about me but you guys would not believe the shit sloots talk about.

Also, what does "he's a cheeky one" mean? Does she like my ass?

(01-10-2015 01:34 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

(01-10-2015 12:32 AM)kaotic Wrote:  ...

Great stuff, can tell you are really honing relationship game with a hot chick like this, something I have little experience in and should try out more! You're game is looking very solid.

Thanks man means a lot coming from you ! I still treat any long term plates or my main relationship with regular game and modified game. I still keep it fresh and new, especially since I still keep hunting new pussy.

(01-11-2015 01:28 AM)L M McCoy Wrote:  I just pulled a Kaotic (went in raw) on that British bitch I mentioned a couple pages back


I went through her phone when she took a shower to ironically get ready for her boyfriend as they were going to hang out later. Read some funny texts about me but you guys would not believe the shit sloots talk about.

Also, what does "he's a cheeky one" mean? Does she like my ass?

Means cunning, sometimes a playful compliment, if you're banging this girl, but I'd say she's calling you it in funny/compliment way. I'd confirm with a Brit player.

And wrap your shit up dammit lol !

(01-11-2015 01:28 AM)L M McCoy Wrote:  I just pulled a Kaotic (went in raw) on that British bitch I mentioned a couple pages back


I went through her phone when she took a shower to ironically get ready for her boyfriend as they were going to hang out later. Read some funny texts about me but you guys would not believe the shit sloots talk about.

Also, what does "he's a cheeky one" mean? Does she like my ass?

Full write up? I'm sure this could prove quite helpful to know what methods were use to secure the bang.