Starting out 2015 out by meeting up for drinks this evening with a nicely tanned 23-year-old that just moved here from California. Last year, I would have waited until the weekend. But a big thing I've learned is to strike while the iron is hot.

Hoping to start this year out with a bang. See what I did there?

Last night was New Years'. In Israel, it doesn't really mean anything. It's just another holiday. Anyway, I'm at the bar with the brunette one I mentioned a few days ago. This girl has one of the best bodies I've ever seen on a Jewish girl. I'm sitting at the bar, when she walks in from wherever she was before. She has a drink, then walks over; I have an open stool on my right. My buddy is on my left, and although he's a great guy, he's miserable with women. She basically says the word, and he jumps to do it.

Anyway, I start talking to her, and it's going pretty well. We're clearly into each other, etc., etc. We're watching (and making fun of) other guys on the trip attempting to hit on one of the other girls. I ask her a question about the guys, and she gives me a response along the lines of "They're all geeks." I then ask "well, what does that make me." Her response: "Hot as fuck." Keep in mind, at this point, I don't think I'm going to do anything with her (she's shomer negilah, which is a Jewish tradition where you don't touch the opposite sex). We're still talking, and she unsuccessfully tries to kiss me on the cheek at midnight. We get back on the bus, where we're still flirting and everything, and we get back to the kibbutz we're staying at.

We go on a walk together, where I essentially tell her "You're never going to see me again, and this is your last night to have fun." She's going into the female equivalent of a yeshiva tomorrow. We walk around to some sort of shack/trailer, where we start passionately making out. I started rubbing her pussy through her (I guess?) yoga pants, but she wouldn't let me finger her. Fuck. Anyway, it was a good close to 2014, and a good beginning to 2015.

Just dumped the main girl. I highly suspect she is basically a high-end Japanese prostitute (hostess). Ouch. Cutest girl and most innocent face too.

Was kind of in a funk about that, considering it was Dec 30/31. Went out solo and pulled another Japanese girl from the club NYE.

Still kind of feeling shitty and down about the whole thing and my lack of insight into these things.

Totally fucked up situation and it blindsided me, as usually my people-skills are spot-on.

Fucked gf several times. Employing ideas learned from the sex god method and she seems to be very receptive.

(01-01-2015 05:24 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

(01-01-2015 07:56 AM)The Great Basilisk Wrote:  Woke up today and turned over in my bed i was surprised to see that i was not alone. There was some naked chick looking at me and i didn't have any recollection of the events from the last few hours of last night. Apparently we didn't have sex so no +1 for me, but damn this chick was fine and she had this nice feminine aura. We exchanged numbers and will meet again.

You should have banged her right then and there. Morning sex is a great way to start the day.

She wasn't having it. I spooned with her for a while and let my hands wander but anytime they went near her pants she moved them away. Then i went to take a morning piss and after i came out she was already dressed. I'm not sure if we're meeting again after all, she seems more cold on text than she was in person. I also found out she is a model or something. Came second in some local beauty contest and found her face on a model agency's website.

It's the weekend after NYE. Is it a good time to mass ping bitches to get them to go out? Or is next weekend better?

Assuming you should not text bitches two weekend in a row. You got one token to spend.

On one hand I suppose if they spent their NYE doing nothing then they are dying to get out, but if they did get wasted then maybe they are not up for heading out again so soon.

These past couple of days have got me thinking.

Now, (at least in the Western world) we're currently living in a highly feminized society. I think now, more than ever, it's important for a man to understand what it takes to be masculine, what traits are necessary not only for attracting a suitable partner, but building character traits that will help you in life period.

This forum and the manosphere in general (although it has some flaws, nothing is perfect) are good places for noobs to start educating themselves.

On one hand, it can help change the culture. The hope is more and more men get educated, take the necessary steps towards improvement, and fight back some of the rampant hypocrisy of feminism. Give us a fighting chance, at least, at closing the gap.

On the other hand, that would certainly affect everyone's dating pool. If more men act "alpha," and you suddenly have a larger pool of dominant men to choose from, how would that affect dating?

Right now I'm sure some of us have benefitted just purely on the edge we have from that alone. Forget about looks and status and whatnot - just being educated already separates you from the pack. But if suddenly you weren't so rare - then what?

Would you rather there be a small group of enlightened men and have the rest of the men in the dark, while we continue to lose the social and cultural gender battle and adjust your game accordingly? Or would you rather more men wake up and make a change and try to turn some of this around on a large scale?

Do the interests of men as a whole affect your bottom line as an individual? Do you even care about men as a whole?

This black chick is being super flirty.

biggest ass I've ever seen. she can't even do her pants up its so big. nice perky tits. thin as a girl with that size ass can be. sexy accent etc

she's also a world class pimple rancher with the worst weave I've ever seen. Plus she's dumb as bricks

my boner is confused

She just asked me to help her move something she bought into her new apt (a few hours from being flirty)

not sure if tight girl game or she's trying to bang

My main girl is moved back to Asia to work for her dad's hospital. I knew this was coming as she was only here for school but we had some good times.

Too much to say but such little time.

Got a +1 and Canadian flag from a mulatto single mom on New Years day. Kicking 2015 off to an good start.

Sex was not enjoyable. She was so long and her legs so powerful that she would squirm and lacked the flexibility to be held down in position while I fucked her. Also the enormous mass of her body--Not fat, 5'11" and 170lbs--made my dick look small.

Gonna go back to fucking tiny chicks that make me look like the white Mandingo.

Meeting up with a chick from Tinder in an hour to smoke some weed.

She had "I smoke lots of dope (weed)" in her bio, and being the pot head that I am, I opened her with "I have sour (weed) but you'll have to supply the rolling paper. U down?" She replies with "Haha sure. I was actually just about to smoke dolo but you're welcome to join." Got her address and now I have to call my connect to buy a bag of weed.

She's a few train stops from my house so I'll be over there in no time. 2015 is off to a good start for me.

Deciding to write my 1 year write up this week with highs, lows, stats, strategies, links included.

Also, forgive me, but the hamster thread needs to be updated asap, I've got great material.

Finally, introduced a gent to ROK a few months back, he broke up with his girl last month, bought the bang books, I've nudged him to contribute to the forum.

I'm glad I've save another brother and opened his eyes to a whole new world.

Just had a new girl tell me that no guy has been able to get her off during sex before. Don't even care if she's lying.

Back in the game after 8 days idle, I needed to recover from December's girl-spree. Got a date scheduled for tomorrow evening.

I get this cute 18 year olds number last week....she was awkward about meeting up.

Turns out....she got raped by someone in her neighborhood early last year.

Standard reasons: she was scared to go to the police early, got a rape kit, filed a police report a bit after, now they can't pursue charges, his word against hers.

Fucking sucks, my first solid 18 year old into me, and this shit had to happen to her, she said she's had sex after.

I'm just not sure if I want to move forward with her.

I got a smoking hot 8's number tonight had some good convos so far. Also got another 18 year old's number tonight off OKC, but she's alright - guess it makes up for the above.

(01-05-2015 01:56 AM)kaotic Wrote:  I get this cute 18 year olds number last week....she was awkward about meeting up.

Turns out....she got raped by someone in her neighborhood early last year.

Standard reasons: she was scared to go to the police early, got a rape kit, filed a police report a bit after, now they can't pursue charges, his word against hers.

Fucking sucks, my first solid 18 year old into me, and this shit had to happen to her, she said she's had sex after.

I'm just not sure if I want to move forward with her.

I got a smoking hot 8's number tonight had some good convos so far. Also got another 18 year old's number tonight off OKC, but she's alright - guess it makes up for the above.

Don't.

If a girl ever talks about being victim of, or witnessing anything related to rape, you should stop that immediately.

You're playing with fire. If you give her sex that's not as good as she expects, you might be the victim of a false rape charge.

(01-05-2015 03:21 AM)alex3948 Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 01:56 AM)kaotic Wrote:  I get this cute 18 year olds number last week....she was awkward about meeting up.

Turns out....she got raped by someone in her neighborhood early last year.

Standard reasons: she was scared to go to the police early, got a rape kit, filed a police report a bit after, now they can't pursue charges, his word against hers.

Fucking sucks, my first solid 18 year old into me, and this shit had to happen to her, she said she's had sex after.

I'm just not sure if I want to move forward with her.

I got a smoking hot 8's number tonight had some good convos so far. Also got another 18 year old's number tonight off OKC, but she's alright - guess it makes up for the above.

Don't.

If a girl ever talks about being victim of, or witnessing anything related to rape, you should stop that immediately.

You're playing with fire. If you give her sex that's not as good as she expects, you might be the victim of a false rape charge.

Kaotic should has enough experience to handle false rape claim. If you like the girl spin that plate a little bit and see what happens. I would still bang her though. Don't take a girl's problem too seriously. She said she had sex after being raped, so she's probably not as serious about it as she plays it out.

(01-05-2015 01:16 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:21 AM)alex3948 Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 01:56 AM)kaotic Wrote:  I get this cute 18 year olds number last week....she was awkward about meeting up.

Turns out....she got raped by someone in her neighborhood early last year.

Standard reasons: she was scared to go to the police early, got a rape kit, filed a police report a bit after, now they can't pursue charges, his word against hers.

Fucking sucks, my first solid 18 year old into me, and this shit had to happen to her, she said she's had sex after.

I'm just not sure if I want to move forward with her.

I got a smoking hot 8's number tonight had some good convos so far. Also got another 18 year old's number tonight off OKC, but she's alright - guess it makes up for the above.

Don't.

If a girl ever talks about being victim of, or witnessing anything related to rape, you should stop that immediately.

You're playing with fire. If you give her sex that's not as good as she expects, you might be the victim of a false rape charge.

Kaotic should has enough experience to handle false rape claim. If you like the girl spin that plate a little bit and see what happens. I would still bang her though. Don't take a girl's problem too seriously. She said she had sex after being raped, so she's probably not as serious about it as she plays it out.

Alex I know this, which is why I'm extremely hesitant, I ended up face timing her, seemed pretty normal, if anything I'll do a quick meet see how we actually vibe and see if she's "off". Funny thing is she mentioned if we were to grab a drink her choice is vodka (obviously this wouldn't be done in a bar).

I always trust my gut, if anything seems weird when we get to know each other I'm out.

Dalaran's right, I do have experience to handle this, that being said, I actually still am going to take this fact seriously, besides the iPhone voice recorder is actually useful tool.

We'll see how I vibe and how my gut is, I'm not at a loss if I drop her, since I got that other 18 year old's number.

(12-31-2014 05:06 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  I know that this is a shitty attitude to have, but sometimes it just feels like the chances never break my way, even if I put effort into making things work.

Whenever you're being setup, by anyone, I'd go with the chances being SLIM that it will work out unless that person has a proven track record with setting people up.

Your attitude is good, but did you miss one thing?

Logistics were not under your control. Your uncle didn't know the address to the party (and hence you didn't know it). This one seemingly minor thing (based on the original "solid" plans) would've been really useful to have as you could've gone to the party even if the two girls didn't go had you had the address.

Finally, while in your case it may have been less feasible, gentlemen, ALWAYS have backup plans for big holidays like NYE. There's simply too much cluster fuck going on with big holidays like that to not have a backup plan.

(01-05-2015 01:56 AM)kaotic Wrote:  I get this cute 18 year olds number last week....she was awkward about meeting up.

Turns out....she got raped by someone in her neighborhood early last year.

Standard reasons: she was scared to go to the police early, got a rape kit, filed a police report a bit after, now they can't pursue charges, his word against hers.

Fucking sucks, my first solid 18 year old into me, and this shit had to happen to her, she said she's had sex after.

I'm just not sure if I want to move forward with her.

I got a smoking hot 8's number tonight had some good convos so far. Also got another 18 year old's number tonight off OKC, but she's alright - guess it makes up for the above.

ROK article - http://www.returnofkings.com/43981/what-...n-the-past

^Alex is right, not worth it at all... too many other girls.

There's a new girl where I work. She's okay looking, probably older than me, some of the guys I work with were pretty stocked because they knew her. I laid on the charm a bit, didn't snag a number or anything, but I'm pretty confident at this place so It was an easy step for me...

Secondly, have a possible drink date from tinder during the week, so that's almost guaranteed pussy right? Seems to me goal is to not fuck up...

Been meaning to post this for a while as it happened just before Christmas but didn't get around to it. However I want to share with you guys because it's pretty funny.

I met this girl via my work, she is a 28 year old, short (5" nothing) in-house counsel for a supplier who we are severing ties with so I decided to give her a crack. I normally never go after anyone related to my work as I think the risks are too high.

I get the number and she is really responsive over text so we go on a date, drinks at my usual first date bar near my place. This was already a good IOI as she lives a 30+ minute drive from there. The date goes OK but she turns out to be quite boring, which is a massive turn off for me. She has literally gone high school --> university --> work and hasn't traveled anywhere except to Bali once. She is driving so only has one drink and I get the kiss but no dice on coming back to my place which surprised me as she seemed quite into me.

She lines me up for a second date which I'm not really keen on as my gut is telling me no so I end up flaking on her. However thinking that I might as well try for the bang as she seems quite into me I end up rescheduling and going on a second date with her despite my misgivings.

Second date I tell her to not drive and to wear a skirt/dress and heels. She complies with a minor protest which I ignore. This is a big Green light as to get to the bar we were going to took her an hour on public transport and she'd have an expensive taxi ride home. I'm keen now, anticipating the notch.
This date goes much better, she is more interesting and I escalate at the first bar before venue changing to another bar that has a dance floor.
At the second bar we dance a bit and make out on the dance floor but I get resistance when I go for the arse feel. Thinking she just needs some privacy I take her to a secluded booth for a make out session and this blonde 9 comes over and sits in our booth (ostensibly to escape the attention of a couple of guys) and starts talking to us. I flirt with her a bit which my date is not having so she starts to be all over me and I'm thinking in my head "thank you blonde stranger".

The blonde wanders off and then the following conversation happens:
Her: How long was your last relationship?
Me: 7 years. How long was yours?
Her: I've never had a relationship longer than a few months in my life. Is that going to send you running?
Me: (Thinking that is a bit strange for a 28 year old but dismissing it because I want the bang) *laugh* I don't care about stuff like that. I'd only going running if you follow that with you're still a virgin at 28! *laugh*
Her: *embarrassed silence*
Me: (confused) Huh?
Her: *hides her face behind her hands*
Me: No!? Really!?
Her: *Nods* Yep
Me: (In my head "Mayday, mayday, mayday, eject, eject!") *Change topic*

Needless to say I wound the date up as fast as was polite after that and put her in a taxi home.
The next day she text me and told me how good a time she had and when can we see each other next. Needless to say I didn't respond, although I toyed with "Never you weirdo 28 year old virgin".

I am still amazed how someone can be a virgin at 28. How does that even happen!? And no, she is not religious.
Still, this story has become a hit amongst my mates, so that's something.

Moral of the story? Always trust your gut.

(01-05-2015 09:50 PM)Roardog Wrote:  Been meaning to post this for a while as it happened just before Christmas but didn't get around to it. However I want to share with you guys because it's pretty funny.

I met this girl via my work, she is a 28 year old, short (5" nothing) in-house counsel for a supplier who we are severing ties with so I decided to give her a crack. I normally never go after anyone related to my work as I think the risks are too high.

I get the number and she is really responsive over text so we go on a date, drinks at my usual first date bar near my place. This was already a good IOI as she lives a 30+ minute drive from there. The date goes OK but she turns out to be quite boring, which is a massive turn off for me. She has literally gone high school --> university --> work and hasn't traveled anywhere except to Bali once. She is driving so only has one drink and I get the kiss but no dice on coming back to my place which surprised me as she seemed quite into me.

She lines me up for a second date which I'm not really keen on as my gut is telling me no so I end up flaking on her. However thinking that I might as well try for the bang as she seems quite into me I end up rescheduling and going on a second date with her despite my misgivings.

Second date I tell her to not drive and to wear a skirt/dress and heels. She complies with a minor protest which I ignore. This is a big Green light as to get to the bar we were going to took her an hour on public transport and she'd have an expensive taxi ride home. I'm keen now, anticipating the notch.
This date goes much better, she is more interesting and I escalate at the first bar before venue changing to another bar that has a dance floor.
At the second bar we dance a bit and make out on the dance floor but I get resistance when I go for the arse feel. Thinking she just needs some privacy I take her to a secluded booth for a make out session and this blonde 9 comes over and sits in our booth (ostensibly to escape the attention of a couple of guys) and starts talking to us. I flirt with her a bit which my date is not having so she starts to be all over me and I'm thinking in my head "thank you blonde stranger".

The blonde wanders off and then the following conversation happens:
Her: How long was your last relationship?
Me: 7 years. How long was yours?
Her: I've never had a relationship longer than a few months in my life. Is that going to send you running?
Me: (Thinking that is a bit strange for a 28 year old but dismissing it because I want the bang) *laugh* I don't care about stuff like that. I'd only going running if you follow that with you're still a virgin at 28! *laugh*
Her: *embarrassed silence*
Me: (confused) Huh?
Her: *hides her face behind her hands*
Me: No!? Really!?
Her: *Nods* Yep
Me: (In my head "Mayday, mayday, mayday, eject, eject!") *Change topic*

Needless to say I wound the date up as fast as was polite after that and put her in a taxi home.
The next day she text me and told me how good a time she had and when can we see each other next. Needless to say I didn't respond, although I toyed with "Never you weirdo 28 year old virgin".

I am still amazed how someone can be a virgin at 28. How does that even happen!? And no, she is not religious.
Still, this story has become a hit amongst my mates, so that's something.

Moral of the story? Always trust your gut.

Interesting, but this is assuming she's telling the truth.

Hiding her face behind her hands? If my useless sociology/psychology ever teaches me anything that is not typical behavior of someone's about to confess to a truth. Technical aside, I'm not sure you should trust anything a girl say about her past relationship experience because that's the topic that spins the hamster the most and girls tend to get defensive/avoidant.

You haven't mentioned how hot she is. She sounds boring, and if she's a 5 in look it is possible that she never was able to attract even a drunken guy. Talk about bad logistics. Then again there was this fattie who is a 4 trying to hit on me and telling me about how she likes it rough in bed... All women get laid.

You are nice to even go on a 2nd date with her.