(12-14-2014 08:54 AM)wagmydog Wrote:  I've come to view pre-bang text exchanges as code-talk in many cases. Exhibit A below, my text exchange with an online 8/10 chick yesterday in response to my "do you want to connect over drinks and see where that leads us" (translated: "let's meet and fuck") line.

Exhibit A translated:

Me: Meet me Tue night. If you have work/school, I can see u Wed night
Her: I'm free Tue night but I'm talking to a few other dudes right now
Me: I'm going out Tue night anyway and don't give a fuck if you come along or not
Her: Wait! I'll schedule other dudes later (or earlier?) and meet you Tue night. Btw here's my escape plan in case you turn out to be a dumb/ugly sonofabitch so don't assume the sale dude!
Me: F u bitch. I'm calling u out and walking away
Her: Wait, wait! I'm dtf, it's just an escape hatch
Me: You down?
Her: Fuck yeah!

In the past, I used to mishandle the "I may have plans with gf" line by employing the rational approach. Now I just tell them to fuck off in a nice way and see if they retrace.

Would you guys have read and handled it differently?

Seems like you handled it perfectly.

(12-12-2014 10:20 PM)Staros Wrote:  Here's the deal. Had a great first date that led to a bang. All peaches and 30 minutes after she's left she texts me first "Got home. Sleep tight! Hope to see you again some other day! : *"

That's on the Saturday.

Then I text her on Monday basically asking how she is and a bit of chit chat. Fast responses and all seems sweet. Then I ask if we should meet next Saturday, she goes quiet and answers the next day.

The rest you can see here.



Now it's Friday night, haven't heard from her yet.

It's one of those situations where it seems almost unbelievable, because things were really great. I am in Brazil and I'm thinking this is a different culture, but to be honest I don't really know and hence "stuck".

Appreciate your help, fellas!

And what do you know! Suddenly, today on a Wednesday, 4 days later that I suggested the meet, I got a response.

Weird.

What would you guys answer / make of this?

@Staros, I wouldn't waste my weekend time for her, if she didn't have a modicum of decency to inform you ahead of time.

Be firm and suggest another day. If she continues playing games, just demote her on the totem pole and water some other plants.

"I have plans"

See if she offers something else.

(12-17-2014 09:40 PM)Staros Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 10:20 PM)Staros Wrote:  Here's the deal. Had a great first date that led to a bang. All peaches and 30 minutes after she's left she texts me first "Got home. Sleep tight! Hope to see you again some other day! : *"

That's on the Saturday.

Then I text her on Monday basically asking how she is and a bit of chit chat. Fast responses and all seems sweet. Then I ask if we should meet next Saturday, she goes quiet and answers the next day.

The rest you can see here.



Now it's Friday night, haven't heard from her yet.

It's one of those situations where it seems almost unbelievable, because things were really great. I am in Brazil and I'm thinking this is a different culture, but to be honest I don't really know and hence "stuck".

Appreciate your help, fellas!

And what do you know! Suddenly, today on a Wednesday, 4 days later that I suggested the meet, I got a response.

Weird.

What would you guys answer / make of this?

Radio silence her for a week. Following week hit her up, if she initiates a time (which she will if shes actually interested in you) then great. If not then shes probably a weak prospect that wants your validation more than anything.

Okay, thank you very much, Alex3984, RealityCheck, Noir and sandman972. Appreciate it a lot, fellas.

Probably I'll radio silence here forever. I don't like to be treated this way.

Texted a former FB a few days ago with a little dread game. She left me/quit banging for a former long time boyfriend. Would see her out after that occasionally looking kind of longingly at me. We'd have brief but awkward conversations.

It was radio silence for 5 weeks and hit her up Tuesday this week with this "accidental" text to another girl:


Me: I did too....ha that big huh! btw...tickets are 9.15...did we say dinner at 7 or 7.30
Her two minutes later : Umm....I think you meant to send that to someone else.
Me 15 minutes later: Oh sorry! wrong recipient

Nothing after that. It could have shocked her a little with that seemingly sexual text I was sending an 'other' girl.

wouldn't mind hitting it again.

I was thinking of hitting her up early next week with a "hey have a good Christmas ...hope you did well this semester" text just to see if I can get her out of her shell/reinitiate. Either that or do nothing based on her no further responses. thoughts?

robreke, just leave it.

(12-19-2014 10:38 AM)robreke Wrote:  Texted a former FB a few days ago with a little dread game. She left me/quit banging for a former long time boyfriend. Would see her out after that occasionally looking kind of longingly at me. We'd have brief but awkward conversations.

It was radio silence for 5 weeks and hit her up Tuesday this week with this "accidental" text to another girl:


Me: I did too....ha that big huh! btw...tickets are 9.15...did we say dinner at 7 or 7.30
Her two minutes later : Umm....I think you meant to send that to someone else.
Me 15 minutes later: Oh sorry! wrong recipient

Nothing after that. It could have shocked her a little with that seemingly sexual text I was sending an 'other' girl.

wouldn't mind hitting it again.

I was thinking of hitting her up early next week with a "hey have a good Christmas ...hope you did well this semester" text just to see if I can get her out of her shell/reinitiate. Either that or do nothing based on her no further responses. thoughts?

Send out a generic text for Xmas. Copy and paste one off the net if you have to, if she responds transition to meeting up for drinks if not delete her number.

Imagine you have a girl which is surely not interested in any kind of "sexual escalation" ... you just want to get rid of her because there is zero chance you could "hit her"and also the whole thing starts to get annoying.



I'm just curious what the RVF folk will recommend me.

(12-12-2014 03:29 PM)RealityCheck Wrote:  (...)

RealityCheck, your responses are all variations on things from heartiste.wordpress.com.
She might be picking up on this soundbite quality.
"Ouch" and "What if I..." were shit tests; they have an ironic, challenging tone.
I think she "saw" you (unconsciously, of course) as being evasive of these shit tests.

(12-20-2014 12:12 PM)RandomGuy1 Wrote:  Imagine you have a girl which is surely not interested in any kind of "sexual escalation" ... you just want to get rid of her because there is zero chance you could "hit her"and also the whole thing starts to get annoying.



I'm just curious what the RVF folk will recommend me.

It's called radio silence, stop talking to her.

Don't invest any time into something that's dead in the water.

(12-22-2014 03:17 AM)dispenser Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 03:29 PM)RealityCheck Wrote:  (...)

RealityCheck, your responses are all variations on things from heartiste.wordpress.com.
She might be picking up on this soundbite quality.
"Ouch" and "What if I..." were shit tests; they have an ironic, challenging tone.
I think she "saw" you (unconsciously, of course) as being evasive of these shit tests.

nah

(12-23-2014 04:03 AM)RealityCheck Wrote:  

(12-22-2014 03:17 AM)dispenser Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 03:29 PM)RealityCheck Wrote:  (...)

RealityCheck, your responses are all variations on things from heartiste.wordpress.com.
She might be picking up on this soundbite quality.
"Ouch" and "What if I..." were shit tests; they have an ironic, challenging tone.
I think she "saw" you (unconsciously, of course) as being evasive of these shit tests.

nah

k

Tinder/ girl is a 9 from the pictures, definitely one of those self entitled bitches who has a summary as long as my police record and has words like "romantic, high standards, hard woker" as if they are true.

Eitherway, hooked her with a "tell me you squat and this might work out" opener (said she was a "gym rat" (=treadmill slut)) and we talked blah blah, in a rush and not near my phone but it took a turn.

Me: So let's grab a drink. If you play your cards right well hit the gym in the near future, Ill spot you, then you can cook me some italian food. That shit's my weakness.
Her: Oh If I play MY cards right? You might want to rephrase that
Her: You would be very lucky to be even hanging out with me in the first place
Me: Lol. I don't follow, can you cure cancer or something? Do you have some remarkable skill that the other 300 brunettes that go to the gym don't have? I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Her: What makes you so special that I have to play cards right? I am a hard working blah blah (basically qualifying herself).
Me: Whoa, relax. It's called flirting, and ten bucks says you don't even know what a real man looks like.
He: I am totally relaxed haha. I just get what I want and I have high standards. (which is funny becasue in the blah blah section she mentions "I'm not high maintinence").
Me at this point: Radio silence

I'm thinking of riding with the radio slience to see if she bites, but any ideas? I know putting self entitled bitches in their place is a gold mine for guys like us, I'm definitely interested in what you guys would have said. Also, how would you proceed from here?

Thanks brothas

(12-24-2014 02:20 PM)Griprip08 Wrote:  Tinder/ girl is a 9 from the pictures, definitely one of those self entitled bitches who has a summary as long as my police record and has words like "romantic, high standards, hard woker" as if they are true.

Eitherway, hooked her with a "tell me you squat and this might work out" opener (said she was a "gym rat" (=treadmill slut)) and we talked blah blah, in a rush and not near my phone but it took a turn.

Me: So let's grab a drink. If you play your cards right well hit the gym in the near future, Ill spot you, then you can cook me some italian food. That shit's my weakness.
Her: Oh If I play MY cards right? You might want to rephrase that
Her: You would be very lucky to be even hanging out with me in the first place
Me: Lol. I don't follow, can you cure cancer or something? Do you have some remarkable skill that the other 300 brunettes that go to the gym don't have? I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Her: What makes you so special that I have to play cards right? I am a hard working blah blah (basically qualifying herself).
Me: Whoa, relax. It's called flirting, and ten bucks says you don't even know what a real man looks like.
He: I am totally relaxed haha. I just get what I want and I have high standards. (which is funny becasue in the blah blah section she mentions "I'm not high maintinence").
Me at this point: Radio silence

I'm thinking of riding with the radio slience to see if she bites, but any ideas? I know putting self entitled bitches in their place is a gold mine for guys like us, I'm definitely interested in what you guys would have said. Also, how would you proceed from here?

Thanks brothas

It's decent banter on your part...but the phone and text should strictly be used to set dates/logistics. When guys try to get too cute...especially with women they're trying to get a first date with....things can get misunderstood and you can blow attraction before it even starts.

When text gets re initiated go with " Let's grab a drink one night in the next week....when will you be free?"

She responds and then you set a definite date. Save the witty bantering for in person.

yeah I get that but just wanted to see if there was another way to respond to the bitchy self entitlement, either way i Followed up

Me:Good. Anyways, I'm booked all this week, next week though let's grab that drink.
Her: Next week could work!

I smell a flake, and might even be spiteful, but I still have some tricks up my sleeve, we'll see how it goes.

Anyone have any Christmas restart texts?

Hate to bump an old thread, but I'm stuck. I had a good date with this girl on Monday night. Just texted her to make plans again later this week.

me: hey x, how's it going?
her: It's pretty hectic. Just got home and I've gotta get up at 6 am again tomorrow. How about you
me: pretty good. just got done with some last minute stuff. anyway, you wanna hang out later this week?
her: Might be free. Can't give you a definite answer yet but Id like to say im interested

Suggestions?

(12-24-2014 10:53 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  Hate to bump an old thread, but I'm stuck. I had a good date with this girl on Monday night. Just texted her to make plans again later this week.

me: hey x, how's it going?
her: It's pretty hectic. Just got home and I've gotta get up at 6 am again tomorrow. How about you
me: pretty good. just got done with some last minute stuff. anyway, you wanna hang out later this week?
her: Might be free. Can't give you a definite answer yet but Id like to say im interested

Suggestions?

What annoys me about her response to you is that she already views herself as higher value by not giving you a definitive answer and is basially saying " Not really sure if Im interested, but I wouldnt mind you chasing me like a little beta bitch as it gets me off as well".

She didnt give you a counter offer, didnt say when she would get back to you, and then says " but Id like to say Im interested" which is straight up saying " but keep chasing me little boy I like it".

Respond with a simple "yawn" followed by radio silence until she initiates with you to meet up, which Ill be up front with you, seems unlikely. Shes just a weak prospect, so expect weak results with her, dont waste your time.

^^^ yeah that's what I thought too. She doesn't seem that interested.

I think you should have been more specific and picked out a couple alternative dates instead of "wanna hang out later this week." Girls are so wishy washy anyway and that doesn't pin her down to a meetup and give her some options (and also it would give you an idea of how interested she is i.e. if she can't meet up at all then it's pretty dead). So maybe the reason she "Cant' give you a specific answer" is mostly due to the fact that you didn't give her a specific date.

I also don't like that you just had a date on Monday and are already hitting her up again, presumably for the weekend, which shows that you don't have anything else going on really. It's also the holidays so I would be more inclined to take her at her word that she's busy with family and other holiday stuff. Maybe there is something that you took out of Monday's date that made you think you can get the bang this next time and u need to "strike while the iron is hot"?? What exactly happened on date #1?

I guess it's me but if they aren't 100% committed to hanging out and don't think I'm great then I just next them. This could go either way, hard to tell, I would not necessesarily give up just yet. I'd say go silent and re-start early to mid-next week. If she touches base this weekend great if not just do some other things.

4:24pm Me: big new years plans?

4:25pm Her: Probably gonna chill with my roommate. What's up?

4:42pm Me: Maybe we go somewhere and shoot some pool and watch the ball drop

10:14pm Her: This is gonna sound super lame but I'm going to hang with my roommate that night because I don't want her to be by herself haha

Salvagable? Nearly texted right away to bring roommate along, but caught myself.

I think akula is too pessimistic. This girl could just be super chill and a little introverted, especially if she's hot. No need to insult. Yet.

Tease her and say she can try and reach you later and you'll see if you're free. Reset frame. Get a new girl. I think she'll get back to you.

Specifically:

Her: ... id like to say I'm interested.
you: np let me know and we'll see if I'm available

For example. Most guys in here are quite intense types that enjoy analyzing everything. It's good to practice just being cool with everything and not interpreting anything less than wild enthusiasm as bad

What do you guys do about girls who are too shy to contact you directly, but upload lotsa snap-stories? Anything particular or just bulldoze ahead.

For the record I don't view these stories, and I'm basically thinking of deleting snapchat. On the other hand, it's quite an excellent way to neg girls as per Heartiste's recommendation. She sends a picture of herself all dolled up, I send a photo of a crying baby, etc.

Here's what I'm about to text... sound good? If not what is a better play for me to make?
Thanks

Mufasa, no offense bro, but are you serious? You just laid all your cards out on the table, killing all the mystery and intrigue.

She responded in kind with a complete lack of interest. Her message is not something that she would send to a guy she was interested in. She's too busy to meet people because of work? Give me a fucking break. Your proposed response will only further kill the interaction.

I'd try to switch gears and follow the basic principles of texting available in various red pill blogs/books, and on this forum. Just say "gay".

I believe that this or something similar is your best course of action, but if I were a betting man, I wouldn't put bank on her actually ever coming out to meet you. Good luck, though.

You can see on the last page of this thread that I was used Heartiste's material to deal with a weak prospect as best as possible. There's no shame in copying directly from him. If he didn't want people to "copy" it, then he wouldn't have published it on his blog.