(12-16-2014 01:12 PM)alex3948 Wrote:  Today I go to a massage parlor in Bangkok, get a Thai massage 1 hour, the lady does the massage, and sometimes touches my dick, gives me plenty of IOI.

At the end of the massage session, the closes the curtain, start making out with me, proceeds to jerk me off, when I'm just about to ejaculate, she takes my hand and puts it in her pants. And guess what I found: a dick!

I ran out of the massage parlor, and didn't pay for the massage. I'm still trying to wash that off.

Died laughing at your expense, apologies in advance.

(12-16-2014 01:12 PM)alex3948 Wrote:  Today I go to a massage parlor in Bangkok, get a Thai massage 1 hour, the lady does the massage, and sometimes touches my dick, gives me plenty of IOI.

At the end of the massage session, the closes the curtain, start making out with me, proceeds to jerk me off, when I'm just about to ejaculate, she takes my hand and puts it in her pants. And guess what I found: a dick!

I ran out of the massage parlor, and didn't pay for the massage. I'm still trying to wash that off.

I bet the massage was especially good due to "her" big strong hands.

Bahaha.

So last night I go out with my buddy to take advantage of a local special after having dinner with our friends. I get a decent buzz going with him and we settle into a totally dead bar for some Karaoke. Maybe 8-10 people in there including us. All guys save for 2 girls who are okay, but end up leaving. The Karaoke guy is trying to get people to sing and have a good time. We grab a couple beers and look at the song books. As we take our time and slowly request some songs more and more people start streaming in. At first mostly guys, then a few girls, then a few more girls. Some kind of drunken sports league.

For some reason the entire group thinks that since we're sitting right next to their friends that both tables are theirs and they just introduce themselves. Works for me and my buddy. We sing a couple songs, get warmed up, he tries to hit on some of them, it doesn't work that well because his game is pretty much nice guy game although he is a cool guy. Some chick hangs around then eventually comes back and starts talking to me. I have a lively conversation with her about her friend trying to get laid and how she's out here from New York for 2 weeks. She's between a 5-6 for me.

She is not liking my viewpoint. She even says at one point (as we watch her friend leave the "nice guy" to duet with the "douchebag" who has a colored wig on and is acting like a fuckwit), "see, he may get the girl for one night, but the nice guy will get her for life"

I about fell out of my barstool laughing at how ridiculous that was. I told her "No, what is likelier to happen is that the douchebag will get her pregnant and the other guy will end up paying for and raising someone else's kid with her, then she'll divorce him because he's boring and he'll have to support someone else's kid for life while miserable and dating fat, low value women"

She was sort of upset by that but I could tell she didn't think it was "that" offensive. She kept claiming how she was different and she goes for guys that are better than the douchebag but later it comes out that every guy she's been in love with has cheated on her and she doesn't understand why. She thinks most guys are assholes blah blah blah.

Now, while I knew she was likely attracted to me, I was stunned by the following especially since she seemed pretty sober. In the middle of a conversation:

<her> Can I tell you a secret?
<me> Yeah ok
<her> I wanna make out with you RIGHT NOW.
<me> *laughs*
<me> That's flattering, but I have a girl

She blinked a few times and wrinkled her nose. The rest of the conversation isn't really worth posting but basically she almost tried to argue against me like I led her on. Pretty funny. One minute saying she's different from her other friend and that nice guys should be nice, next minute flat out telling me she wants to make out with me super bad after mentioning that the guys she'd been in love with had cheated on her.

Hamster gonna hamster:

   

(12-16-2014 07:25 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  Went on a date with this girl off OKC today.

Didnt turn out well from the get go. I hugged her and spanked her butt for being late and get "I don't think this is very appropriate"

I ignore her. We sit down to get coffee, and I can see she's wearing lazy pink panties and didnt shave down there.

We talk about what we're gonna have for luch and she tells me she's vegetarian ok cool.

Then she goes on a 20 minute tirade about the evils of meat, hormones, and how meat affects her allergies.

We get up to go get food and spend the next 40 minutes trying to decide what to eat because she's fucking fussy.

We finally settle on a place and then she's rambling non stop about allergies and then religion.

I wanted to make my escape via the toilet, but decide to soldier on to see how this pans out.

BIG MISTAKE.

The date just went downhill. She complained about how the air is affecting her allergies blablabla.

Long story short, I drove her home and tried the "I need to use your bathroom line" . Her parents are in. (I live in Asia and this is common).

Fine. I walk her to the lift and attempt to kiss her. Get the head turn and the "I don't make out on first dates" speech.

I lift her off her feet and say I'm not putting you down til I get a kiss. She starts shaking like a fish out of water. I leave and drive off.

What a waste of my time.

Wow, so many red flags here. You should have bailed way earlier.
-Spanking her bum for being late was probably coming on a bit too strong unless you had already established really good comfort online. Although you recovered well.
-Doing a lunch date is a bad idea as you are investing in a girl who has given you nothing yet.
-Going on a tirade about the evils of meat is a big red flag and should have made you cut things short.
-Ditto for rambling about religion.
-Spending 40 minutes trying to find a place to eat indicates you didn't lead properly or hold frame enough. Also, again, don't do lunch dates in order to avoid this kind of issue.

How could you tell she was wearing "lazy pink panties" and hadn't shaved?

(12-16-2014 01:12 PM)alex3948 Wrote:  Today I go to a massage parlor in Bangkok, get a Thai massage 1 hour, the lady does the massage, and sometimes touches my dick, gives me plenty of IOI.

At the end of the massage session, the closes the curtain, start making out with me, proceeds to jerk me off, when I'm just about to ejaculate, she takes my hand and puts it in her pants. And guess what I found: a dick!

Got approached by a MILF at Starbucks today, I think she's around 42. I'm minding my own business when I hear a "You smell nice, what are you wearing?" I turn around and I just looked at her and told her the name to which she replies "where are you from?"

I told her that I'm from here

"Oh, you look _____"

I asked her where she was from and she said America and how she's a mutt, which probably explains why she was looking for a bone

I ask her to join me after I got my shit and we have a conversation, which was me satisfying her curiosity be it fake or real

Found out she's recently divorced and long story short I got the number. Still don't know if this is legit as it all feels "fake" in a sense.

Have you guys ever SNL a girl then ended up seeing her long-term and/or finding out she's not a horrible slut?

(12-17-2014 05:52 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Have you guys ever SNL a girl then ended up seeing her long-term and/or finding out she's not a horrible slut?

Haha yeah man. Sometimes two people really do "connect" and sex is just kind of a natural result of the encounter.

(12-17-2014 05:52 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Have you guys ever SNL a girl then ended up seeing her long-term and/or finding out she's not a horrible slut?

Yes and it blew my fucking mind.


On another note, I have been killing it with cute animal text game. Girls will melt over cute puppy gifs if an alpha is sending them.

(12-17-2014 08:49 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 05:52 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Have you guys ever SNL a girl then ended up seeing her long-term and/or finding out she's not a horrible slut?

Haha yeah man. Sometimes two people really do "connect" and sex is just kind of a natural result of the encounter.

I am slowly accepting this truth. My ex-LTR and my last SNL, they were both very pleasant girls to be with. Yet at the beginning I had shit tons of doubts about them being sluts because of the rule "never take a SNL seriously"

@Mayhem: I sent this to a girl as a neg. She did some boxing and judo, so I told her if she doesn't hit people randomly I might take her dancing with me. She said "I would never!" Me "I can't trust you. I just saw you bullying one of your friends" Her reaction was priceless.



Things like this actually also serves a screening purpose. Any girl that doesn't find it funny can stop wasting my time and be miserable.

(12-17-2014 09:14 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 08:49 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 05:52 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Have you guys ever SNL a girl then ended up seeing her long-term and/or finding out she's not a horrible slut?

Haha yeah man. Sometimes two people really do "connect" and sex is just kind of a natural result of the encounter.

I am slowly accepting this truth. My ex-LTR and my last SNL, they were both very pleasant girls to be with. Yet at the beginning I had shit tons of doubts about them being sluts because of the rule "never take a SNL seriously"

I had this discussion with a close friend recently. I don't immediately disregard a SNL as non-relationship material for two main reason:

1.) As Blurred states, having sex is just normal in the process of being attracted to someone. You will connect faster with someone that shares similar attitudes and preferences than someone who doesn't, with each having the same moral compass. If you get along awesome with a girl and can't wait to see her again, chances are she feels the same and you can't punish her the SNL between two people with explosive chemistry.

2.) If you are here, your either a player or in the process of becoming one. You develop a unique set of skills that the average guy doesnt have. Therefore, you have a unique set of skills that the average female hasn't been exposed to before. We pursue the SNL and hone our skills to maximize the chance of it happening. We study how to game chicks, practice howto game chicks, refine our game process, and practice some more. You can't punish a female for that.

Combine the two: an experienced player gaming a chick that shares explosive chemistry, and a SNL is almost guaranteed.

Immediately disregarding a SNL would be like Tom Brady disregarding three Super Bowls win as not meaning anything.

An ex-girlfriend of mine was a SNL, we went on to have a two year relationship where I didn't worry once about her cheating on me.

(12-17-2014 09:14 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 08:49 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 05:52 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Have you guys ever SNL a girl then ended up seeing her long-term and/or finding out she's not a horrible slut?

Haha yeah man. Sometimes two people really do "connect" and sex is just kind of a natural result of the encounter.

I am slowly accepting this truth. My ex-LTR and my last SNL, they were both very pleasant girls to be with. Yet at the beginning I had shit tons of doubts about them being sluts because of the rule "never take a SNL seriously"

@Mayhem: I sent this to a girl as a neg. She did some boxing and judo, so I told her if she doesn't hit people randomly I might take her dancing with me. She said "I would never!" Me "I can't trust you. I just saw you bullying one of your friends" Her reaction was priceless.



Things like this actually also serves a screening purpose. Any girl that doesn't find it funny can stop wasting my time and be miserable.

Exactly. Same goes for the puppies. If she doesn't think puppies are cute there has got to be something wrong with her. If she prefers cats to dogs: -1

Curious I'm assuming SNL for you is Same Night Lay AKA ONS One night stands correct ?

I've personally never dated a girl who was worthy after a ONS/SNL.

Of course the main girl I'm with, we banged 2nd or 3rd date.

(12-16-2014 01:32 AM)Roardog Wrote:  About to go to a hotel and meet this chick who gave me a car blowjob for her faux-rape fantasy

I'll let you know how it goes

So this happened and it was fun, although the sex wasn't as good as I thought it would be. She didn't really do a lot. Plus she has a massive tattoo over her back which is turn off for me. Something Egyptian apparently even though she's not Egyptian and has never been to Egypt.

Got this message from her this morning:
"Would you be interested in continuing fantasy, role playing/casual sex?"

My gut feeling is no as I'm not that attracted to this girl and I've got a couple of other plates who are better in the sack. However I am tempted to see how far the rabbit hole goes.

I'm done gaming for a while and reviewing my game progress since the beginning of this year.

I'm still no where near good, and still discovering game for myself. But I think I should do a write-up of my 2 years in Paris as an international student. Would anyone be interested?

(12-17-2014 06:38 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  I'm done gaming for a while and reviewing my game progress since the beginning of this year.

I'm still no where near good, and still discovering game for myself. But I think I should do a write-up of my 2 years in Paris as an international student. Would anyone be interested?

Absolutely dude you should write it regardless if one is interested or a 100 are. It's a good checkpoint to reflect, analyze, and update yourself. Use this as a base to start from for this next year.

I'm going to do my 1 year on RVF write up closer towards new years, until then all my efforts are going into getting one last bang before or on new years.

(12-17-2014 05:52 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Have you guys ever SNL a girl then ended up seeing her long-term and/or finding out she's not a horrible slut?

I'd say most girls i've banged I could have gone the distance with, if my coldness didn't drive them away or their lack of dependability didn't drive me away.

I've only waited for 2 chicks, but those chicks were worth it as well.

WIA

This girl i´ve been wanting to "get to know better" just left saying that she wasnt enough for me, because of the models and the fashion and shit.

I thought about chasing, but then i thought: Is that pre-selection? Does people actually think i fuck the models i make pictures of? By just hanging out with them i can date up?

Ruminations of 2014…

My review of 2014 and my lays are pretty self-explanatory. I am somewhat disappointed at the lack of lessons arising from mistakes but alas, women can be fickle and copy/paste in their nature. Every time I fail, I rise above yet I have a quasi-expectation of learning something new. This is not always the case but it sheds light on the success of 2014.

Textbook game is textbook.

The most straightforward lays were the ones which were, as expected, textbook. I ran the motions; I opened and provided the anti-slut cover for her to feel it ‘just happened’. This was the biggest lesson of 2013, akin to a romantic flick, ‘it just happened’. I am the director in the movie in which the credits end in part steamy, sometimes raunchy and in a few occasions, disappointing sex.

Every. Single. One. Was. Textbook. Open, act aloof and disinterested, directly challenge, then fall back, bounce for a cigarette, indirect verbals, invade personal space, eye contact, direct verbals, kino throughout and make out, bounce, keep the pressure and bat shit-tests out of the window. Drop some vulnerability crack just before I pull the trigger and bring her home. Impress her by letting her wander my pad, let her discover I live with a woman and manhandle the shit out of her.

Only 1 lay involved me going to the woman’s house first. This was an exception, with a woman who I knew if I hooked up with her on the same night, she would not be a repeat customer (buyer’s remorse of the night). Risky, for I was the sole person amplifying her emotions (buying temperature).

I pulled a girl off reddit. This was probably the only ‘non-standard’ lay for me. I know a lot of guys here use online as their modus operandi but I want to be straight up and see what I am getting. I also banged off Tinder, but they included more effort and there was more social validation than a simple username on male-infested reddit.

Despite slowing down in lays from 2014 (maybe 5 or so, I haven’t sat to count but I estimate I am on high 10s for 2014), my personal and work life has flourished. I believe game was even stronger as I approached less and my ratios increased. I have not measured exactly but my mental ‘RAM’ spent per woman has diminished and automated. I banged more nationalities. I have become pickier. I had MLTRs (4 women) for 2 months and now I am still seeing one, for 3 months. I still hook up with others but she is my main one.

Much more variety, especially as it was my first year outside of university. My unshakable confidence has been solidified by personal factors that translated into game. This translated in to results -> patience -> confidence -> results and the pattern continues.

I remain reluctant to post on forums, just because I believe a lot of the stuff is covered and a lot of posters here do a greater job of explaining things than I have the time or effort to do. I have filled my own notebooks filled with player and life notes and anecdotal stories.


Most important lessons of 2014 for me?

a) Desire. Whatever you do, you must do it for your own wanting to and because you have a set of standards being met. Especially upon getting my own job, altering my environment and increasing my set of responsibilities. In the past, I had a reputation of being a womanizer (still do) and felt obligated to be flashy and shit when I went out. Now it is a much more calculated approach and I know within the first 120 seconds if I am legitimately wasting my time or not. After that, it comes down to how much my ego is willing to stand up for itself and keep me in set. Do I want her because I am genuinely attracted or because I am turned on by the attention. Usually now, it is the former.

b) You cannot turn game on and off. It is not a switch.
A few years ago I used to religiously pre-drink a few hours before hitting the club. I needed to get to the point where I could get myself into a ‘gaming’ mood; a state of mind. The booze was a prerequisite for the sense of childlike confidence I would beam wherever I went. It became a crutch. I missed nights from passing out from too much intoxication, by 11pm I was crawled up into a unconscious little ball.
With the confidence I have gained from: own money, own pad, being a man of my own terms and essentially being independent, this aura is carried everywhere. I approach girls everywhere, genuinely curious with them. I tease every woman and my body language will translate my intentions. Bus stops to cafes to night clubs. I am fortunate to have always been witty and I decide to use this now (see: Elevator game in approach thread for examples of time induced approaches).

c) Play to your strengths; accept your weaknesses, work on them and fake it so long. I faked my confidence a few years ago and now I am 100% confident. Nonetheless, on paper, it may seem as if I am punching above my weight with a few women. I am 23 and have a lot going for me but I could have a 6 pack and I could make a lot more money. This is motivation, not bickering. If anything, the fact that I am consistently in the company of hot women is testament to my game? Yes and no. It’s more playing to your strengths. Situational awareness, knowing what the woman is looking for etc. I wrote about this in my notes; like a venn diagram, find out where you intersect and the attraction lies. For example, I went on business to Sri Lanka and I was staying at a 4 star hotel. Standard, I went to the 5 star hotel next door and upped my baller levels. Within 4 minutes, a Swedish 8 (34 yo) approached me and requested my company at her table as she was alone. All it took was for me to leave my hotel and go next door and let her mind fill in the gaps. Image is important and I want to improve this- for life, not just for game. I used to DJ, this is a big thing that I will seek to build upon in the coming future.

d) Social media. My facebook profile helps as well, as much as I hate to admit it. Plenty of likes, a lot of cool pictures and female orbiters. Social validation is a thing of the past yet sadly, women look at this shit. I will use WhatsApp with my harem to send them pictures of ‘cool stuff’ I am doing and set up compliance tests for them to reciprocate. When I am travelling this is key; facebook helps widen the net but lessen the personal effect of this. Therefore, I will not be reluctant if girls want to add me. I seldom post things, just get tagged doing cool things and I will post beautiful pictures of what I am doing via instagram but less than the personalized ones to girls on WhatsApp.

These were the lessons I learned from my successes, rather than my failures. Where I failed, I was either:

a) Too impatient
b) Didn’t care enough and stopped responding to them
c) My game was not strong enough, given my surroundings i.e. VIP horse races among millionaires.


I attribute most failures to lack of desire as you can put on a show for her if you really want to. It may not last but you will get laid once at least. I place less value on the numbers and more on the quality. At 23 however, I can't stop my testosterone levels from taking over.

Here's to a successful 2015 playas.

How did you get laid off redditt? Did you post funnier Gifs than all the incels on there?

(12-18-2014 02:24 PM)redbeard Wrote:  How did you get laid off redditt? Did you post funnier Gifs than all the incels on there?

Girl posted that she is moving to Cape Town.

Check thread, someone asks her what she does. She mentions she will be a dancer at Mavericks (best strip club in South Africa).

I PM her and name drop (I knew a few strippers) and offer to meet her. Takes me up on the offer and brings another stripper friend.

I live 300m from strip club, 150 from all venues visited.

Take her free wine tasting 3 minutes from the joint where she works and I know the owners. Next day invite her for a drink. Watch Cristiano Ronaldo dominate as she is crawled up on me in a bubble of sexual energy. I am dismissive and watching the football; people begin to stare.

Take her back to my apartment and fuck her with her head out of the window, telling her what a slut she is.

She won best dancer of April 2014. I used to call her sexy bunny, she dressed as a bunny for me.

It was good while it lasted but she got pissed and deleted me off facebook before travelling overseas. She used to make shitloads of money though for a 24 year old, damn.

Today I had a dinner date with a half Thai / half USA girl. She told me that she lived in the States for the past 10 years and is now back in Thailand (she was born here).
Straight after dinner, she said she had a work emergency and had to leave. 30 minutes later, text message: "You seem like a nice guy, we can be friends if you want."

Now I remember why I prefer 100% Asian, non-Americanized girls

(12-19-2014 04:42 AM)alex3948 Wrote:  Today I had a dinner date with a half Thai / half USA girl. She told me that she lived in the States for the past 10 years and is now back in Thailand (she was born here).
Straight after dinner, she said she had a work emergency and had to leave. 30 minutes later, text message: "You seem like a nice guy, we can be friends if you want."

Now I remember why I prefer 100% Asian, non-Americanized girls

It's time like these, I'd love to call a girl out. Did you think she wasn't into you to begin with ? Were you not vibing ? How was she acting ?

I'd personally never do dinner, just drinks at a local bar.

I believe she wasn't into me right at the start, like no vibe. The initial plan was dinner and then go drink. I saw several red flags:

1) Bitching Thailand and describing how life is better in the States
2) Having numerous past lovers from different nationalities
3) Saying she will never date an Asian man
4) Making an excuse to bail in the middle of the evening (it was obvious she was lying)

When I got the message on Line, I just didn't even bother responding, not even a "K".

In short, totally Americanized lady. Like an American girl in a Thai body.

Home for the holidays and I haven't been laid in over a week.

meeting up with some mediocre chick I fucked back in the day on Sunday but lawd help me I'm not going to make it I was staring daggers thru the asses of hot chick's at the mall today

lets hope she let's me hit it raw because I didnt bring any condoms