Post: #1

This is from a German study, so I guess it needs to be taken with a grain of sauerkraut. Hahaha. But I kid.

The Washington Examiner is reporting that Germany’s Institute for the Study of Labor is suggesting that the government crackdown on porn access because "Research has shown for some time that porn use in marriage destroys the marital bond, but now we can see that porn use destroys even the desire to get married.”

"Given the rapid decline in marital formation and stability in western countries, a natural question is how quickly this trend will proliferate in developing countries as their standards of living rise."

It would be pretty amusing to think the end of society came not from bombs or terrorists, but from men watching XHamster.

"Researchers analyzed data from 1,512 surveys completed by American men aged 18-35 between 2000-2004. What they found is that porn use makes marriage unappealing." As opposed to today's women and family courts, who make it hella appealing! Kidding.

I have mixed feelings on this. But then I'm older, have been divorced, and don't want to speak for a 21-year-old guy who might be part of the "sexodus." Back in my day, most of 'em were thin, had no tattoos, and not nearly as much attitude. Remember Kelly Bundy from "Married With Children?" Girls like that were real and they were spectacular.

Over at Alpha Game, Vox Day has some thoughts on this, and he lays blame at the (swollen, tattooed) feet of American women:

"Women still have a tendency to think they're the only game in town and behave accordingly. But they're not. Men have always felt the call of the wild, but the combination of a good woman and societal pressure tended to overwhelm that. But when marriage increasingly looks like not having sex with an obese bitch who can rob you at any time, it's little wonder that more young men are opting for doing whatever they hell they want all the time for the rest of their lives instead."

Gratuitous image of Days of Broken Arrows' teenage dream girl:

Post: #2

The yellow press tends to forget that correlation does not imply causation

Post: #3

I'm with Vox here.

The study ignores the obvious.

The marital "bond" was more of a contract.

The woman had to take care of hearth and home, not be fat, a harridan, or harpy. The man would get a job and bring home the bacon. Now women are too fat to fuck (no kids) and they eat all the bacon a man could bring home. If he divorces her, she still gets to take bacon from his plate.

G

Post: #4

What about women reading racy romantic novels? What effect does it have on a marriage?

Post: #5

Sounds like the feminists are about to crank up their war on porn.

Could it be that they're attacking sports, games, and porn because guys are sick of dealing with them and retreating into these interests? Or is it that they just hate men and want to make them suffer? Maybe both?

It's almost like they want to force guys to pay attention to them and are using their white knight armies (government and their propaganda media arms) to try to make it happen.

Post: #6

(12-17-2014 03:07 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  Sounds like the feminists are about to crank up their war on porn.

Yeah, them and the conservative group "Morality in Media" (hahahaha) cited in this article.

They couldn't ban people swapping entire albums online and they had a good case for stealing there. There's no way they're gonna be able to ban something anyone can find with two mouse clicks and is allowed by the First Amendment.

Here is a link to Morality in Media's Web site, called Porn Harms. They have a page called "Dirty Dozen: 12 Leading Contributors of Sexual Exploitation." Among the twelve are Verizon, Barnes & Noble, Cosmo, and Facebook. I'm surprised they didn't mention the Little Mermaid.

Post: #7

Well yea... unlike your annoying wife, you can put the porn on mute.

Post: #8

(12-17-2014 03:07 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  Sounds like the feminists are about to crank up their war on porn.

Could it be that they're attacking sports, games, and porn because guys are sick of dealing with them and retreating into these interests? Or is it that they just hate men and want to make them suffer? Maybe both?

It's almost like they want to force guys to pay attention to them and are using their white knight armies (government and their propaganda media arms) to try to make it happen.

Porn is one of the tools indeed, but not the main one with which marriage has been destroyed.

Post: #9

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It would be pretty amusing to think the end of society came not from bombs or terrorists, but from men watching XHamster.
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Post: #10

"porn use destroys even the desire to get married.”

My reason to not get married is because women aren't women anymore. They've been sold a lie for several decades and now society is a mess with men meant to be the big losers. The media, public and private organisations and the law are the greenhouses of this monstrosity.

Post: #11

It makes sense that porn makes marriage unappealing for men. But what makes porn appealing for men is modern women.

Post: #12

When marriage-quality women who will retain their marriageable qualities into old age reappear, I'm sure porn use will decline a bit.

The thought of being trapped in a sexless marriage to a woman who let herself go and the thought of being financially raped in divorce court are keeping me from marriage more than porn is.

The situation will not improve until women realize they are the source of the problem.

Post: #13

+1 for Kelly Bundy

Post: #14

Porn seems to be the only thing the Red-Pillers, religious conservatives and SJW's all condone, but all for different reasons. SJW's don't actually care about misogyny in pornography: give me any bangable feminist and I'll rough her until she Niagara Falls. Just look at the length of the BDSM thread for proof, or the preference for rape fantasies.

It's SJW's regulating the sexual market: they're building a monopoly on pussy. Let's do the calculations:

The average American man makes $31,000/year. Let's assume an 80% MPC after taxes, so 20% savings. So Savings = $6,000/yr. = $60,000/decade
So an average American man will have $60,000 at age 30, holding all conditions constant. Putting of all ideology and other abstract ideas aside, if a man is just looking to blow off his rocks for 5 years, the numbers speak the truth.


1.Marriage Route (initial 5 years, assuming govt. is extremely generous and said women a minimalist.)

Courting Expenses until marriage: $2,000
Marriage Ceremony: $30,000
House/Two Cars: $500,000
Money Saved from Married Tax Filing: -$10,000
Resource Allowance for Spouse: $10,000
Child (Delivery, Medical Bills, etc.): (National Average: $10,500/yr. x 4) = $42000

Grand Total (5 years) = $574,000
Net Worth: $60,000 + $6000 (5 years savings) - $574,000 = -$484,000

Here's the best part: if you bail, there's alimony, the house, car and everything else. Love really conquers all huh?


2. Prostitution: $200/session x Time = $200 x 609 = $121,800
Time: 5 years = 1825 days = 609 sessions = Session/3 days.

Net Worth: $60,000 + $6000 (5 years savings) - $121,800 = -$31,800

Not bad, still running below operational cost, but new pussy every three days isn't bad.


3 Now, the most economical option:

http://enter.brazzers.com/signup/signup.php

Brazzers Lifetime Membership: $14.99
U.S. male lifespan: 75
Cost: ($15/75 x 5 yrs.) = $1 !!!


Net Worth: $60,000 + $6000 (5 years savings) - $1 = $89,999

A dollar for 5 years. With all your other money, you could actually raise all the starving Indian and African children in the world!

Just like anybody else, economics speak the truth. The SJW's need to cut off all other supply sources, therefore men need to pick the most expensive option, but one where the women are also the most obese, putrid and loose ever known to humanity.

Post: #15

I'm curious what the red-pill/manosphere consensus is on porn. I personally don't think men should use it, but should have the freedom to do so.

Post: #16

(12-17-2014 03:07 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  Sounds like the feminists are about to crank up their war on porn.

Could it be that they're attacking sports, games, and porn because guys are sick of dealing with them and retreating into these interests? Or is it that they just hate men and want to make them suffer? Maybe both?

It's almost like they want to force guys to pay attention to them and are using their white knight armies (government and their propaganda media arms) to try to make it happen.

Feminists are "pro porn" as it "empowers'' women.

They just moan about it not being " fem centric" there enough femme geared porn out there. Soft loser shit like those glossy X-art, and dudes like James Seen basically make chic porn. His movies are unwatchable.

I've been knee deep in pirn longer then these German researchers have. Porn is a soft weapon to destroy men and make then into ferral zombies who don't want to go out and get laid, and yeah that does have effects on marriage and families when a dude would rather go on oorn binges and kill off his vital "edge". That " edge" men have has laid to the world around us and progress. Without it men are weak, moldable, more easy to control.

Don't worry. Fenenists want men to buy sex and consume more porn as it weakens them and gives women more power.

I would make a post about it, but men don't want to hear it. The digital porn us no good for men on a large level and I always welcome studies that show its flaws. It does more harm then good long term.

Post: #17

^ It's no porn, and fap at most once a week and that's if you're too lazy to get laid.

Post: #18

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4 The best option via Game:


E-books & various Game materials starting at 10$ to 200$ max: $500.00
Possible bootcamps: 1000$
Average cost per lay via Online-Game, Daygame & some concentrated Nightgame: 100$ - let's assume you slay 1 new girl per 14 days - consecutive cost of lays are even lower
Cost: (26 notches / year x 5 years) = 13.000$

Net Worth: $60,000 + $6000 (5 years savings) - $13.000 = $77,000

In all likelihood the cost/ notch are combined in your general lifestyle anyway. The initial learning costs should not reach 3000$ even with some severe cases who need some mid-term professional Game coaching.

Essentially you adjust your Game to your income and it is possible that the effective added cost is very close to zero, since it is part of your lifestyle anyway and whether you spend the time with your friends at a bar, on your hobby or Gaming girls is irrelevant.

No fap plus sex with sluts gives you a greater degree of accomplishment and strength than sitting in your masturbatorium like an Omega chimp.

Post: #19

(12-17-2014 03:06 PM)Pride male Wrote:  What about women reading racy romantic novels? What effect does it have on a marriage?

Unreal expectations and haranguing of their husbands.

WIA

Post: #20

(12-17-2014 04:22 PM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  I'm curious what the red-pill/manosphere consensus is on porn. I personally don't think men should use it, but should have the freedom to do so.

That's about the consensus.

Most say it's better if you can go without, but are glad it's an option.

Post: #21

(12-17-2014 05:29 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

(12-17-2014 04:22 PM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  I'm curious what the red-pill/manosphere consensus is on porn. I personally don't think men should use it, but should have the freedom to do so.

That's about the consensus.

Most say it's better if you can go without, but are glad it's an option.

It should always be a good option for a 50+ guy to open a little exclusive porn company and bang Russian and Japanese girls in the dozens with little effort.

But you can do that even while being married: "Honey - I am off to work!"

Post: #22

(12-17-2014 03:07 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  Sounds like the feminists are about to crank up their war on porn.

Could it be that they're attacking sports, games, and porn because guys are sick of dealing with them and retreating into these interests? Or is it that they just hate men and want to make them suffer? Maybe both?

It's almost like they want to force guys to pay attention to them and are using their white knight armies (government and their propaganda media arms) to try to make it happen.

Ding Ding Ding!

At some point in a bad relationship, men will simply start to tune out their partner's endless bitching when they come to the realization that she won't be happy no matter what the hell he does, so why make the effort. It's called stonewalling and it drives women nuts:

Quote:In relationships where intense arguments break out suddenly, and where criticism and contempt lead to defensiveness, and where more contempt leads to more defensiveness, eventually one partner tunes out. This is the beginning of stonewalling. The stonewaller acts as if he (research indicates that 85% of stonewallers in marriages are husbands) couldn’t care less about what the partner is saying or doing. He (sometimes she) turns away from conflict and from the relationship. Any form of disengagement can be stonewalling.

After 40 years of feminism, we men still get to hear the following:

1) Women still aren't happy.
2) It's still all men's fault.

So now men are retreating into porn, video games, and other hobbies and "couldn't care less about what [women] are saying or doing." They've come to the realization that no amount of changing, capitulating, and "compromising" will make the complaining stop.

So now they're not trying anymore.

Post: #23

I'm with Vox.

I dont think porn has made marriage unappealing. I think porn has arisen as an alternative to what awaits many men when they do get married. We rip on Westernized women a great deal and there's a reason why: they're fat entitled bitches.

I would honestly rather wank my mind into oblivion with PornHub & a fleshlight than marry a fat bitch with a dyke haircut who wont have sex with me (or who I do not want to have sex with). Most men are not going to find the manosphere, so these are their options.

Post: #24

(12-17-2014 04:59 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Essentially you adjust your Game to your income and it is possible that the effective added cost is very close to zero, since it is part of your lifestyle anyway and whether you spend the time with your friends at a bar, on your hobby or Gaming girls is irrelevant.

No fap plus sex with sluts gives you a greater degree of accomplishment and strength than sitting in your masturbatorium like an Omega chimp.

Very true. GAME is the great equalizer. Game is villified institutionally, that's why we have so many members having trouble accessing ROK/RVF via. public WiFi. Game is a greatest option, but not something an average man will end up accessing, let alone making lifestyle changes for it.

It is also implied that I was discounting the benefits of real sex, because its impossible to financially quantify spiritual, emotional and chemical effects of a flesh and blood human being. Overall, of course game is pinnacle or I wouldn't be here myself.

Post: #25

"Give me PornHub or give me death!"

That will be the rallying cry of the incel male in the very near future as the feminazis try to ban porn.