Hans Dix, I'm interested to hear how your convo about the "arched back" smoothed out?

Also guys, what's your method for not gaming -- but screwing -- girls who are under 21? Most of my matches range amidst the 18-22 bracket, and it's the 21-year-olds who I hook up with (since we can go to a bar and I can either kiss them there or move it to my car). The only time when I've hooked up with a U-21 Tinderer was when she and I drank beers on the beach that is 1+ hours from my house. I know that I can potentially rent a hotel/motel, but I'm on a college student budget so I'd much rather screw in my car.

I'm assuming the "best" way to bang a chick in this age bracket is to set up coffee/lunch one day and then secure the second for a meet-up (maybe a couple beers, a stroll around the park, etc.). Ideally, I'd want to meet up with a chick at a park, drink and hook up the first date.

But, lots of girls find meeting in private for the first date creepy...understandable. How can I not be a creep but increase my success rate with girls 18-20? Thanks, guys.

H*ly shit, my tinder matches in New Orleans! Only about 1/10 girls this hot would even be on tinder where I live, and out of that only 1/10 would swipe right on me.

I am getting the FUCK OUT of the Sf Bay Area.

(08-03-2014 07:15 PM)Renberg Wrote:  Hans Dix, I'm interested to hear how your convo about the "arched back" smoothed out?

Also guys, what's your method for not gaming -- but screwing -- girls who are under 21? Most of my matches range amidst the 18-22 bracket, and it's the 21-year-olds who I hook up with (since we can go to a bar and I can either kiss them there or move it to my car). The only time when I've hooked up with a U-21 Tinderer was when she and I drank beers on the beach that is 1+ hours from my house. I know that I can potentially rent a hotel/motel, but I'm on a college student budget so I'd much rather screw in my car.

I'm assuming the "best" way to bang a chick in this age bracket is to set up coffee/lunch one day and then secure the second for a meet-up (maybe a couple beers, a stroll around the park, etc.). Ideally, I'd want to meet up with a chick at a park, drink and hook up the first date.

But, lots of girls find meeting in private for the first date creepy...understandable. How can I not be a creep but increase my success rate with girls 18-20? Thanks, guys.

Can you bang at home ? I only do evening meetups due to my schedule.

I'd say half the bangs I had on tinder were U21. My logistics are good and typically I can usually entice them to my house from there.
You can do 1 of 2 things:

1. Build alot of comfort, call them, face time them, a day or 2 before you meet. Don't mention where you're meeting until the last minute. Then when they're about to leave and say "ok where am I going" reply with "cruise over to (address)". If they put up resistance, tell them to stop being creepy (jokingly) but put the weirdness on them. Try meeting them outside your house if anything, if you built enough comfort they'll just come right over.

2.Build comfort meet them at a local lively place, there are 2 plazas near my house. One has a pretty cool walkway between lakes with benches where tons of people hangout. The other has a huge water fountain with benches where alot of people chill after eating, I guess you can get coffee if you want or whatever. Build comfort with them in person, then compliancy test with them: "Let's bounce to my pad this place is boring" or something similar. If they bite, perfect, if not try to push for it a bit later. NOTE: You might not get them over the FIRST time, but you sure as hell will get them over the SECOND time if you played everything right the first time you meet them.

Now this is what's worked for ME, I don't know your situation. But this is a start.

I pretty much do the same thing as Kaotic. A lot of guys my age don't have their own pad and that's where I'm ahead in the competition. Since I'm 20, most of my notches on Tinder are from the 18-20 crowd, girls who usually still live with their parents. I just meet them at a venue near my apartment(somewhere that's within walking distance) and after rapport has been established, we go back to my pad. Sometimes I tease them, saying shit like "We should get going soon. I know you have a curfew so I have to make sure you get home before 9," and most of the time it works because they now have an incentive(they'll try to prove to you that they don't have a curfew and/or they're grown enough to make their own decisions) to stay.

(08-03-2014 07:15 PM)Renberg Wrote:  Hans Dix, I'm interested to hear how your convo about the "arched back" smoothed out?

Also guys, what's your method for not gaming -- but screwing -- girls who are under 21? Most of my matches range amidst the 18-22 bracket, and it's the 21-year-olds who I hook up with (since we can go to a bar and I can either kiss them there or move it to my car). The only time when I've hooked up with a U-21 Tinderer was when she and I drank beers on the beach that is 1+ hours from my house. I know that I can potentially rent a hotel/motel, but I'm on a college student budget so I'd much rather screw in my car.

I'm assuming the "best" way to bang a chick in this age bracket is to set up coffee/lunch one day and then secure the second for a meet-up (maybe a couple beers, a stroll around the park, etc.). Ideally, I'd want to meet up with a chick at a park, drink and hook up the first date.

But, lots of girls find meeting in private for the first date creepy...understandable. How can I not be a creep but increase my success rate with girls 18-20? Thanks, guys.

I've banged 6 girls under 21 (most 18) first time and they just came to my house. Now ive also lost alot of girls as well by trying to get them to come. When i was a little younger i would just drive to the chicks house and then try to escalate at a park or something. Usually i make the girls come here now tho as u know they will be down and its much easier.

(08-03-2014 07:47 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(08-03-2014 07:15 PM)Renberg Wrote:  Hans Dix, I'm interested to hear how your convo about the "arched back" smoothed out?

Also guys, what's your method for not gaming -- but screwing -- girls who are under 21? Most of my matches range amidst the 18-22 bracket, and it's the 21-year-olds who I hook up with (since we can go to a bar and I can either kiss them there or move it to my car). The only time when I've hooked up with a U-21 Tinderer was when she and I drank beers on the beach that is 1+ hours from my house. I know that I can potentially rent a hotel/motel, but I'm on a college student budget so I'd much rather screw in my car.

I'm assuming the "best" way to bang a chick in this age bracket is to set up coffee/lunch one day and then secure the second for a meet-up (maybe a couple beers, a stroll around the park, etc.). Ideally, I'd want to meet up with a chick at a park, drink and hook up the first date.

But, lots of girls find meeting in private for the first date creepy...understandable. How can I not be a creep but increase my success rate with girls 18-20? Thanks, guys.

Can you bang at home ? I only do evening meetups due to my schedule.

I'd say half the bangs I had on tinder were U21. My logistics are good and typically I can usually entice them to my house from there.
You can do 1 of 2 things:

1. Build alot of comfort, call them, face time them, a day or 2 before you meet. Don't mention where you're meeting until the last minute. Then when they're about to leave and say "ok where am I going" reply with "cruise over to (address)". If they put up resistance, tell them to stop being creepy (jokingly) but put the weirdness on them. Try meeting them outside your house if anything, if you built enough comfort they'll just come right over.

2.Build comfort meet them at a local lively place, there are 2 plazas near my house. One has a pretty cool walkway between lakes with benches where tons of people hangout. The other has a huge water fountain with benches where alot of people chill after eating, I guess you can get coffee if you want or whatever. Build comfort with them in person, then compliancy test with them: "Let's bounce to my pad this place is boring" or something similar. If they bite, perfect, if not try to push for it a bit later. NOTE: You might not get them over the FIRST time, but you sure as hell will get them over the SECOND time if you played everything right the first time you meet them.

Now this is what's worked for ME, I don't know your situation. But this is a start.

Yes snapchat is also good to build comfort thats how i usually do it. If a girl see's u live like that or on facetime its like u already met and usually their down. Ive had sloots come over without that tho...i could have been a murderer or somethin lol

I messaged a girl a couple times and for my third text i sent

"Lets chill this week"

And she said

"Haha you just get straight to the point dont you?"

How would you respond?

(08-03-2014 09:36 PM)Kickb Wrote:  I messaged a girl a couple times and for my third text i sent

"Lets chill this week"

And she said

"Haha you just get straight to the point dont you?"

How would you respond?

"I'm a busy man."

Also if I ever match with one of those bots that have "I have more pics at blah..." or something similar, I just text "Eat a bag of dicks" every time. Lol.

It's funny, what I have been finding that works is if I match a girl, shoot her a message and no response I text later " Another chick matching dudes for validation, pathetic!" Most girls seem to eat that up and start messaging me with like witty sarcastic comebacks, leading to good convo. It's like I'm separating myself from the bunch by calling them out haha.

Thanks for the advice, Game_Ethic, Kaotic and Bullocks.

Unfortunately, I can't have girls over. If they do come over, they'd have to meet my family; since I go out evenings, my siblings and parents would be home. If I do have a girl over, it would be because she's chill and I want to welcome her into my house so she can say hi to my family before we get down to business.

Do you guys have luck inviting yourself to a chick's house? I've only successfully done this once (though a girl invited me over without me asking before). I usually say something like, "If you like movies so much, why don't you invite me over and we'll watch a horror" or something. Or "are you more of a go out and party chick or a stay in and watch netflix type?"

Coverdoc, although I don't double-message girls unless they like a Moment, I do agree with your post.

In reference to Coverdoc's point, one word that has been working really well is the word "Feisty." Girls eat that shit up. Let's say a girl is defensive that I'm asking if she's a boring person. I'd respond with, "Are you always this feisty, or just when people are getting to know you?" It seems to be a magic online dating shit test passing word!

Talking to this pretty hot persian but says she's busy all week and cant chill then, didnt rly buy it but she explained how her dad is coming home from business and i might believe it. shes beside a bentley on instagram that her dad got her and she was mentioning his business when people were commenting about it lol rich bitch shes like 18.

i usually only like white chicks but shes hot. one of the good things about toronto is u see bitches from all backgrounds (even tho i only like white girls).

another chick is trying to get me to meet her at the subway 25 mins away lol pretty cute but meh. chatting up this hot 9/10 who just got back from australia so hot i might even be down with taking her out haha

(08-04-2014 12:24 AM)Renberg Wrote:  Thanks for the advice, Game_Ethic, Kaotic and Bullocks.

Unfortunately, I can't have girls over. If they do come over, they'd have to meet my family; since I go out evenings, my siblings and parents would be home. If I do have a girl over, it would be because she's chill and I want to welcome her into my house so she can say hi to my family before we get down to business.

Do you guys have luck inviting yourself to a chick's house? I've only successfully done this once (though a girl invited me over without me asking before). I usually say something like, "If you like movies so much, why don't you invite me over and we'll watch a horror" or something. Or "are you more of a go out and party chick or a stay in and watch netflix type?"

Here's the thing, I live in a house I rent a room and pay all utilities. I'm paying rent at my uncles house (single, never married). He doesn't give a shit about what I do but I digress. Honestly, it'd be more convenient if I could just bang out at the girls house but I think that's happened only a handful of times.

There are guides and ways to get yourself invited to the girls house, but you need to build enough comfort, possibly have to wait for the second date for that to happen.

Ex: Girl met me at a bar near my house, then went home. Then 2nd meet met me at a brewery near her house, led to a bang at her house.

Personally it's all about making the girl "feel" comfortable around you to make her do anything you want. Once you got her feeding out of the palm of your hand, it's over. Most young girls are going to have parents home and you're gonna have to sneak in (I did that when I was younger). You could try for the car bang, which is exciting, but you gotta have the right frame.

So what if the girls meet your family, you can always give them a reason why it didn't work out with the chick. Then again it's different if you're bringing a bunch of girls home every week (one could hope). I guess I can see them asking questions and saying no more girls over.

Unfortunately you're in a tough situation best bet is banging at their place or a car bang. Hell even invite them to a party and bang at a friends house !

(08-04-2014 12:24 AM)Renberg Wrote:  Thanks for the advice, Game_Ethic, Kaotic and Bullocks.

Unfortunately, I can't have girls over. If they do come over, they'd have to meet my family; since I go out evenings, my siblings and parents would be home. If I do have a girl over, it would be because she's chill and I want to welcome her into my house so she can say hi to my family before we get down to business.

Do you guys have luck inviting yourself to a chick's house? I've only successfully done this once (though a girl invited me over without me asking before). I usually say something like, "If you like movies so much, why don't you invite me over and we'll watch a horror" or something. Or "are you more of a go out and party chick or a stay in and watch netflix type?"

I've pulled more back to their houses than my own over the past few months. If the communication is sexualized early enough (without making a big deal of it) and you build some comfort all you have to do is suggest going back to her place for a drink, if she doesn't first. One left her car downtown and I was the DD. Breathalyzers can be your friend here (only buy fuel cell kind) for the fun and novelty they provide and also because drink consumption being equal odds are good that your BAC will be lower and then you can volunteer to drive, and need to use the bathroom if she doesn't invite in when you arrive.

Another I set up during text when asked what I wanted to do by responding "lunch, window shop the strip, then Netflix" - "Netflix where?" - "Your place, need to clean this PM after all ".

Another way is to keep an ear out during the evening for any openings you can use, handyman stuff like getting the storm windows open to tech stuff like offering to set up a computer program on her's has gotten me in the door. One girl who was extremely uptight and said she usually made guys wait over a month refused to take me to her place but wound up getting a $150 hotel room "to cuddle". No roommates or parents there, never did figure that one out.

Has anyone else noticed certain girls who will play along but suddenly go silent when you try and organize a meet-up? I think a lot of girls are in it for the flirting and not for the sex. Especially with Indian, Asian and Middle-Eastern girls.

"I think a lot of girls are in it for the flirting and not for the sex."

yep. it's a very low risk, high return ego boost.

ditch em. unmatch these hoes.

I could be wrong, but I think there's a lack of comfort on tinder and that's why girls are flake. There is the real possibility of someone being catfish or not looking like their pictures and very little personality displayed like there is on okcupid.

I think your photos have to do extra work on Tonder vs okcupid.

Not only do have to show you had attractive, but they have communicate your vibe and also somehow let the girl know that you are real and so she can build a sense of comfort with you.

The only other way is through your messaging with her.

(08-04-2014 09:37 AM)redbeard Wrote:  ditch em. unmatch these hoes.

Did that. IDGAF beause I can match with at least 10 more chicks the same day on Tinder.

Never realized how much Tinder has helped me build an abundance mindset until now.

soup Wrote:I could be wrong, but I think there's a lack of comfort on tinder and that's why girls are flake. There is the real possibility of someone being catfish or not looking like their pictures and very little personality displayed like there is on okcupid.

I think your photos have to do extra work on Tonder vs okcupid.

Not only do have to show you had attractive, but they have communicate your vibe and also somehow let the girl know that you are real and so she can build a sense of comfort with you.

The only other way is through your messaging with her.

Well they do communicate my vibe pretty well. The only problem is that chicks respond better to playful douchebag game than playful comfort game. Heck, I never even send any sexually explicit texts though I do send innuendos all the time.

I don't see any good reason to change my Tinder game. Its been working out pretty well so far and I have been able to set up legit meet-ups. Its just that there's a subset of chicks who are too scared to have random sex/ a relationship with a guy who's not from their social circle.

Beware of this Tinder bug. I recently reactivated tinder after about a year hiatus, may have something to do with it. Has anyone else experienced the bug where tinder doesn't know about some of your Facebook friends, or it's using an old list? I swiped two girls that I know I am friends with on FB (but weren't a year ago) and know they are using their main account for tinder. We had no mutual friends, and I've never seen them as a mutual for another swipe. I have also seen a guy be listed as a mutual friend that I'm no longer friends with on FB. This creates an issue because I'd like to scrutinize a profile more if it might get back to me in the real world.

I logged out and back in but don't think that made a difference.

(08-04-2014 09:37 AM)redbeard Wrote:  "I think a lot of girls are in it for the flirting and not for the sex."

yep. it's a very low risk, high return ego boost.

ditch em. unmatch these hoes.

I think part of it is that it is so easy and low investment to reply to a message on tinder that it doesn't require them to may a decision if they want you until you force the decision on them.

often when a girl messages me on tinder i will take a quick look at the profile, think she's cute and message her back. after a few messages back and forth i'll look again at her profile and realize that she is not cute enough to spend an evening to get the notch and i'll stop replying. i imagine girls go through the same process.

(08-04-2014 09:42 AM)soup Wrote:  I could be wrong, but I think there's a lack of comfort on tinder and that's why girls are flake. There is the real possibility of someone being catfish or not looking like their pictures and very little personality displayed like there is on okcupid.

I think your photos have to do extra work on Tonder vs okcupid.

Not only do have to show you had attractive, but they have communicate your vibe and also somehow let the girl know that you are real and so she can build a sense of comfort with you.

The only other way is through your messaging with her.

Yes, I think it is important on tinder to proactively build comfort. I don't want to set up a date until the girl is acting like she thinks I am fucking amazing. I mean, I'm sure that in reality she is tindering with 100 other dudes, but she should at least act like she really wants to meet up.

Also when a girl asks aggressive screening questions i think it is usually a good sign on tinder (because she is building her own comfort), whereas in real life it is annoying to me.

Help me built my profile:
Target city: A rich small town 100-200k citizens. A lot of young and working Chicks as well as students. They are hot on average tend to dress classy.

My profile pic is me in holiday with a standard t-shirt neither cool or special. Id say I am built compared to the average joe and slightly above average in attractiveness.

Most of my matches are usually 3 points below my looks, boner test fail.

Me in suit? That's not who I am.
Me in less casual stuff with shirt, or v-neck. Certainly.
Without shirt and in jeans? Could try that.

Chicks look like they have all professional pictures up, should I ask someone to take pictures of me?

(08-04-2014 01:34 PM)void Wrote:  Help me built my profile:
Target city: A rich small town 100-200k citizens. A lot of young and working Chicks as well as students. They are hot on average tend to dress classy.

My profile pic is me in holiday with a standard t-shirt neither cool or special. Id say I am built compared to the average joe and slightly above average in attractiveness.

Most of my matches are usually 3 points below my looks, boner test fail.

Me in suit? That's not who I am.
Me in less casual stuff with shirt, or v-neck. Certainly.
Without shirt and in jeans? Could try that.

Chicks look like they have all professional pictures up, should I ask someone to take pictures of me?

Doesn't hurt to have friends who take professional pictures, I see nothing but good coming from it.

Come off as fun, active, adventurous. A suited pic always is a plus in my book. (Fake it, till you make it)

If you're jacked and ripped, show it off, girls love that (even though they deny it and "complain" about it).

(08-03-2014 07:15 PM)Renberg Wrote:  Hans Dix, I'm interested to hear how your convo about the "arched back" smoothed out?

Also guys, what's your method for not gaming -- but screwing -- girls who are under 21? Most of my matches range amidst the 18-22 bracket, and it's the 21-year-olds who I hook up with (since we can go to a bar and I can either kiss them there or move it to my car). The only time when I've hooked up with a U-21 Tinderer was when she and I drank beers on the beach that is 1+ hours from my house. I know that I can potentially rent a hotel/motel, but I'm on a college student budget so I'd much rather screw in my car.

I'm assuming the "best" way to bang a chick in this age bracket is to set up coffee/lunch one day and then secure the second for a meet-up (maybe a couple beers, a stroll around the park, etc.). Ideally, I'd want to meet up with a chick at a park, drink and hook up the first date.

But, lots of girls find meeting in private for the first date creepy...understandable. How can I not be a creep but increase my success rate with girls 18-20? Thanks, guys.

I gave her a double dose of the Hans Dix meat sword and 50cc of patriarch juice down her throat

She literally lives in the next neighborhood over, like a 5 minute drive, so I went to her place. She was a 7, but a total freak. I face fucked her so hard I was a little concerned for the well being of her tonsils

Strangely enough most of my bangs have happened at the chick's house, even though I live on my own.

Bread and butter are the introverted types, they don't leave their house often and thus have less access to outside world activity = built up sexual frustration (suburbs)

When I sense the chick isn't down to come over or meet in public I just put the idea of me coming over and once they find themselves home alone I get invited over.

I don't mind driving for a potential bang since late night drives are easy and fun, lots of time to think to oneself with good music.