Post: #1

Say you're "seeing" a girl. You're in an LTR or right on the verge. How do you guys handle the 4 traps of the year? Valentine's day, Christmas, her birthday, your "anniversary"?

Do you guys just take them out? Dinner, drinks?

At what point (if ever) is it ok to buy your girl shit?

Post: #2

Always go with flowers—jewelry is only for the wife (or about-to-become wife), chocolates are for Mom.

Flowers are cheaper than jewelry, and leave a longer-lasting impression precisely because they are short-lasting. Women will take selfies and publicize the flowers to show off to their friends, reinforcing the "specialness" of flowers.

As to which kind? Always go with red roses, and always go over-board—anything less than 18, and you're "cheap".

Also—and crucially—have them delivered, preferably at her work or sorority house or wherever there are a lot of her peers around. Do NOT deliver them yourself—you'll be mistaken for a chump.

If a delivery boy shows up at her job with a giant bouquet of two or three dozen red roses, for all her friends to see (and envy), it will have a huge impact.

Milk that impact.

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Post: #3

If she’s reciprocating, gift wise and on all other levels required, then I don’t see a problem with showing your appreciation through gift giving, when and where appropriate.

Also, making sure the gift is commensurate with her value toward you, and not her own perceived value will go a long way in ensuring undesirable implications of pedestalisation are mitigated.

Post: #4

If things are good then I'm ok with gifts.

Taking your girl some place fun/nice for V-day is great.
Birthday's is a gift and something fun to do.

I'm different about Christmas. I've never celebrated it so i tell the girl at the beginning of December that i only want to exchange 1 gift with a reasonable dollar limit. I's quite amazing how many girls will exceed it to show you how much they care.

Post: #5

I've learned that it's okay to buy your girl shit when she's appreciative and thankful. Back in my pre-red-pill days, I spent so much money on one girl for her to tell me, "You don't buy me enough anymore."

Maybe it's because I'm a college student and don't have too much money. But I've made it a rule to only buy a girl something when it's convenient for me and when she's worth it. For younger girls, cheap and dumb/funny gifts often count for just as many points as flowers or fine jewelry.

Post: #6

1. skittles
2. skittles
3. skittles
4. skittles

No - seriously - after you are fucking them, you are in a LTR or in deep conversion buying women things basically depends on your wallet, your generosity and how much you feel for her. If you are a billionaire and just want to spread the wealth, then why not buying her expensive jewelry or even an appartment. Depends on how long you have been together though.

Basically I take those factors into account - how long we have been dating, how much fun our time has been together and how good business & money has been recently. But usually I do something fun. Recently on Valentines I got mine a bag of Skittles - seriously. It was a joke between us - hehe Red Pill joke.

Post: #7

With my main I'd take her to a punk rock show. Some band shirts. Or dinner and drinks.

Thankfully she doesn't like gifts or jewelry and we aren't even official after 6 months of banging.

Post: #8

(06-19-2014 07:42 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  Say you're "seeing" a girl. You're in an LTR or right on the verge. How do you guys handle the 4 traps of the year? Valentine's day, Christmas, her birthday, your "anniversary"?

Do you guys just take them out? Dinner, drinks?

At what point (if ever) is it ok to buy your girl shit?

Anniversary? I think generally this is stupid. If you're married, then yeah.

Christmas, Birthday, and Valentine's Day? You should get her something she could really use. The most effective gift giving is not by spending money, it's by either creating something you know they'd really like, being thoughtful enough to search out something they'd really like, or by giving them an experience they will always remember.

For my girl this year:
Valentine's Day - I found a badass vase that I got for free a long time ago and paired it with a dozen long stem red roses (only because I couldn't find any other flower that had long stems that fit the vase as I would normally go the OPPOSITE of what everyone normally does) that I spent $25 dollars on at Costco while I was there shopping for my groceries. At the time I hadn't been to her work and she didn't even really remember she had even told me the name of her work. I spent a couple minutes online, figured out where it was, and then conned her into thinking I was going to call her from my work and ask her a work-related question and if she could step out of her office to take the call. I called her, told her to come to the parking lot where I just told her I wanted to come surprise her and tell her happy valentine's day in person on my way to work. We walked around for a few minutes and I had her stumble upon the vase/roses I'd hidden behind a minivan in the parking lot.

Birthday - I went to an art supply type place that has chains and little charms (whatever you call the part that hangs) and walked around and looked for an animal that I know she likes and that I joke around about with her on a regular basis. I bought them along with a card I thought was nice looking. I traced the animal outline off the pendant, then drew in the features. It was at best a little higher quality than the work of a young child. I wrote her a few sentences and signed it. I re-used a paper bag and tissue paper type stuff to make it all look decent when I gave it to her. I also hosted her and my roommate at the times themed bday party and absolutely killed it. All of her friends were blown away.

Reaction to both gifts? ECSTATIC

Post: #9

Take her skydiving, get her scuba certified and go diving, take her out on a small rental sailboat and teach her the basics, enroll her in a motorcycle course...something that will 'wow' people but also give her an actual experience to tie back to the man in her life.

It doesn't have to become her new hobby, but should be a cool experience outside of everyday life. These experiences are a bit more than what I would do in a casual relationship, and I don't view them as date-esque. If the above are your version of dates, then you're spinning your wheels trying to impress. But on long term stuff the above has shown pretty good success for me.

GIVE it to her. DOn't bring it up like a pussy and ask her if she wants it.

Notice that all these activities would probably bring you great joy anyway, and you're bringing her into your world.

Post: #10

(06-19-2014 07:42 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  Say you're "seeing" a girl. You're in an LTR or right on the verge. How do you guys handle the 4 traps of the year? Valentine's day, Christmas, her birthday, your "anniversary"?

Do you guys just take them out? Dinner, drinks?

At what point (if ever) is it ok to buy your girl shit?

I give a comical card at a day after or before silly holidays like valentines. I ALWAYS set the expectation low for anniversary and birthday, then a day or two later "as an afterthought" bust out a gift. Now, to some level guys, if you're maintaining LTR, you have to be beta in this regard, so it is ok to be romantic and put thought into the gift. So I do get something meaningful to us, but when you frame it as meaningful "but an afterthought" It really impacts her that much more.

Post: #11

In my experience, spending money on girls almost always makes them less attracted to you. A part of their brain clicks on, which says "he's trying to compensate for lacking sex appeal" and/or "I don't need to fuck him, he's already giving me resources." There are exceptions and outliers. But, in case of doubt, spend little or no money on a girl. Nothing puts you in the beta bucket faster.

Post: #12

If you're in a LTR you may be able to get away with Valentine's Day and a birthday but other than that you're pretty much looking at a pussy-drying situation no matter what you do.