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RE: Stock Market 2014
(06-03-2014 05:58 PM)DVY Wrote: Purchased BKE this morning. Really amazing financial management. Amazing profit margins too.
Dividends are 5-6% but this is largely hidden from stock screeners because of special dividends every year. 30% of company is still owned by founder, and about 5% by CEO. Very efficient use of capital and long history of treating stockholders well.
Its not a knock-it out of the park biz (50-100% yoy return), but its a safe and reliable equity (resembling a bond). Its at a reasonable PE of 13 and pays basically all earnings out every year via dividend, but still manages to grow and open new stores.
CAKE has been re-purchasing shares like mad (basically 100% of earnings), but BKE pays out near 100% of earnings in dividend.
Both companies have solid managements who have stayed with the company for over 20 years. I ended up just pulling the trigger on the cheaper PE one (BKE) today. Well see how it goes...
Over 31% of the float is shorted. That's huge. It suggests Wall Street thinks there is something very wrong with this company. And with 11 analysts following the company it has adequate coverage.
What do you think Wall Street is getting wrong about the story?
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Can't say what Wall-street thinks, but I can tell you what lay-people think. Clothing is a terrible business. Fashions change quickly, margins evaporate (because of year-end sales- which BKE does not have), online shopping (BKE is capturing that well) etc etc. American Eagle and Aeropostale (who the hell even wears those now) have gotten slammed recently. Basically a forgotten industry (unlike tech)
The company has ZERO debt, is priced at 13 PE, and pays out 75-100% of earnings every year, and manages to open about 10 stores/year and remodel. Management has been there for 20+ years. Huge % owned by founder- 30, and CEO- 6%. Its market cap is 2B and way below what most big firms invest in. Because of the special dividends, its escapes the stock-screeners.
A big portion of revenue and profits comes from jeans. I don't see the jeans fashion going anywhere. Profit margins are insanely high compared to other stores, and inventory is v. well managed.
It weathered the 2008-2009 recession well, slowed down dividend payments, then payed out a big dividend after profits came in.
This company is conservatively run and I place faith in their abilities. The fact they have "skin in the game" is just an extra assurance. Its a cash-cow on full harvest mode.
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RE: Stock Market 2014
(06-04-2014 09:26 PM)DVY Wrote: Can't say what Wall-street thinks, but I can tell you what lay-people think. Clothing is a terrible business. Fashions change quickly, margins evaporate (because of year-end sales- which BKE does not have), online shopping (BKE is capturing that well) etc etc. American Eagle and Aeropostale (who the hell even wears those now) have gotten slammed recently. Basically a forgotten industry (unlike tech)
The company has ZERO debt, is priced at 13 PE, and pays out 75-100% of earnings every year, and manages to open about 10 stores/year and remodel. Management has been there for 20+ years. Huge % owned by founder- 30, and CEO- 6%. Its market cap is 2B and way below what most big firms invest in. Because of the special dividends, its escapes the stock-screeners.
A big portion of revenue and profits comes from jeans. I don't see the jeans fashion going anywhere. Profit margins are insanely high compared to other stores, and inventory is v. well managed.
It weathered the 2008-2009 recession well, slowed down dividend payments, then payed out a big dividend after profits came in.
This company is conservatively run and I place faith in their abilities. The fact they have "skin in the game" is just an extra assurance. Its a cash-cow on full harvest mode.
It's interesting that you like BKE. Everyone I know kind of laughs at Buckle as being a year or two behind the trends. They're still selling Affliction tees, white washed jeans with oversized stitching, and other things that were popular in 2011-2012.
And because they never have anything on sale, girls don't flock there like they do to Forever 21 and similar places. Girls love the sale rack, and Buckle's sale rack is maybe 10% off if you're lucky. This is a little bit of a deterrent.
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WIA- For most of men, our time being masters of our own fate, kings in our own castles is short. Even those of us in the game will eventually succumb to ease of servitude rather than deal with the malaise of solitude
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RE: Stock Market 2014
I might buy some of that BKE for fun, but I don't see shit out there to buy right now.
I like the oil companies, miners, and country ETFs buying on geopolitical events.
For example, I bought THD, the Thai stock market ETF the day after it plunged because of the the coup. It's up more than 5% since then.
Made money on ERUS, EWZ and TUR, but got out too early on all three, especially TUR.
I am neck deep in gold and silver miners now, betting on China and Russia buying, or shit hitting the fan in some other way. Eventual increase in inflation is a safe long bet, I think.
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RE: Stock Market 2014
(06-12-2014 09:54 AM)Sp5 Wrote: I might buy some of that BKE for fun, but I don't see shit out there to buy right now.
I like the oil companies, miners, and country ETFs buying on geopolitical events.
For example, I bought THD, the Thai stock market ETF the day after it plunged because of the the coup. It's up more than 5% since then.
Made money on ERUS, EWZ and TUR, but got out too early on all three, especially TUR.
I am neck deep in gold and silver miners now, betting on China and Russia buying, or shit hitting the fan in some other way. Eventual increase in inflation is a safe long bet, I think.
SP5, Are you watching Argentina?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-13...t-q-a.html
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(06-13-2014 04:22 PM)DVY Wrote: I am really liking Biglari Holdings. Still doing my due diligence, but am probably gonna put a good chunk of my bankroll into it. I believe its 50-60% undervalued.
Theres been a lot of hoopla about his CEO compensation but I just shrug. 25% compensation capped at 10MM/year. Seems reasonable to me.
^^^I've skipped all mining and natural resource stocks. Just can't wrap my head around it. If rig-drivers in Australia working the mines are making 100k+, what does that mean for the companies? Plus most of their assets are volatile. A drop in commodities demand would basically make earnings nil (for a lot of companies).
Quote:Biglari, the son of refugees from Iran, started out with a small restaurant chain called Western Sizzlin and used it as a platform to assume control of the Friendly's Ice Cream business (since sold) and the 500-store Steak 'n Shake. He turned around Steak 'n Shake and went on to buy the Maxim magazine company, First Guard Insurance and others. His failed to take over Cracker Barrel, the restaurant and gift store company.
I sat in on the annual meeting of publicly held Biglari Holdings (BH), which lasted four hours and was certainly worth my time. Its CEO is incredibly direct, and some might see him as arrogant, almost offensively so. He called one shareholder a "schmuck." He called the board of a target company "chihuahuas."
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/look-buff...00107.html
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