^go for logistics. She has a boyfriend but may fuck you anyways.

I would not suggest offering to prepare for interviews, because she will probably just want to prepare for interviews.

Next time she brings upthe bf just send something along the lines of.. "stop bringing up the bf..I don't like it, but ill tolerate it" then keep on her

Btw, i would go more sexual..quit talking work. I know shes Asian, but you've already displayed your status..now you have to go caveman. Just talking from experience

Thanks Eradicator, Feo.

Haha, of course no way I'm bringing interview in this. But how do I turn this to sexual and then logistics when she's not been willing to meet with so far? She is clearly flirting with the wish of 'tame and cute bf' and not telling him... What else does it tell?

(04-27-2014 10:53 AM)eradicator Wrote:  ^go for logistics. She has a boyfriend but may fuck you anyways.

I would not suggest offering to prepare for interviews, because she will probably just want to prepare for interviews.

(04-27-2014 12:21 PM)Feo Wrote:  Next time she brings upthe bf just send something along the lines of.. "stop bringing up the bf..I don't like it, but ill tolerate it" then keep on her

Btw, i would go more sexual..quit talking work. I know shes Asian, but you've already displayed your status..now you have to go caveman. Just talking from experience

Anyone?

I'll like to reply to her in next few hours

Not looking for reply advice, just don't know how the hell to read this girl or really what the hell this means... tried getting her to come out with me this wednesday. She was giving me good responses, fast times, little flirting then this baby...

Me: wed then, im assuming you still have my address, if the weather's nice, we'll take the jeep top off

Her:I wouldn't keep your hopes too high for Wednesday Mr. ****** and I certainly would keep one of your other girls on call

Me:confident wed will be fine, it's biology. but i spose i do have 59 other numbers, right? (inside joke, was coming off too player and backed down just a smidge)

Her: Wow, that's it? I thought you could do waaaay better than 60...I'm a little disappointed

Me:taken as a compliment, but ive been preoccupied with 1/59 numbers recently

her: Your mistake if you are referring to me. I don't play well with others and I definitely do not play by the rules. So again, fair warning, Wednesday will probably not go your way

me:im counting on you not playing by the rules.

All I got so far.

^^ She's trying to play hard to get - thinking she is coming off to you as some cool-aloof chick. Shit testing. I've dealt with this type before; she's probably a ho and will give little resistance as long as you just be cool around her when you get together.

Now I have one - this one's kinda weird.

Short backstory:

This girl is a hostess/bus girl at a breakfast joint I frequent most weekends with friend(s) of mine. Gorgeous tall 8.5 long blond wavy hair super friendly. Got to flirting with her the past couple times I've gone building a little rapport and ongoing inside jokes etc. Last weekend I get her full name and number and tell her to come to my band's show. She obliges and says her and her girlfriend will come down (was hoping to get her alone but whatever it IS a concert venue after all). She shows up looking like a total knockout (white dress, heels, lipstick) with this total butch short dyke chick. She enjoyed the show and we chat outside and immediately click and get along. She speaks fluent French, just moved here recently from across the country for the hell of it, and she's 22 fresh out of college (came here for the culture/adventure not for work). I text her a couple hours after the show and it goes like this:

ME: Ms [name] you and I get along famously and I think it would be prudent we have a more formal hangout. Let me know your shed this week
ME: Besides you owe me a song bigtime [inside joke]
HER(next day): I do agree that we get along swimmingly, good lad. And as you may have been able to tell last night, my girlfriend isn't too happy about it...
HER: My schedule:
Monday: [hours]
Tuesday: [hours]
Wednesday: [hours]
Thursday: [hours]
Friday: [hours]
Saturday: [hours]
Sunday: [hours]
ME(next morning): Can't tell if joking or serious
ME: I may be free tomorrow after 5. We should get together
HER: Lolz, I'm actually being serious. She was a little jealous the other night. But yeah if you're free let me know, I have the day off tomorrow
ME: Sounds good. I'll give you a call in the afternoon
ME: As long as you don't say "Lolz" again

(next day I call around 430 - no answer leave a VM)
...no call/text back...

ME(next day): Breakfast is gonna be awkward this weekend if you ghost me all week
HER: Sorry about yesterday. My girlfriend really isn't keen on us hanging out. Unfortunately I have to respect the lady's (read: ball and chain's) wishes. Interacting at [breakfast place] doesn't bother her though

Something is funky here. I feel like there is totally a change I can snag this girl - but how do I play this? Fucking lipstick lesbians. What a waste.

Imagine if she had a boyfriend instead of a girlfriend, but wanted to hang out with you.

Would that change your approach?

She's ripe for a fucking. Keep pursuing, but you need to escalate at her job somehow.

Is it possible to pull her in a hallway at the breakfast place/kiss her etc? That's what needs to happen.

background, hooked up with hb7 Saturday from bar, but no sex. Heavy LMR that I failed to get past. Spent the night, hung in the morning for a bit, both parties seemed to like the other.

went out with her last night, her friend shows up unannounced and proceeds to hang with us the ENTIRE night, i fail to build required momentum, and only get a makeout in her car. I figure I may be dead in the water after failing to bang two times. She apologized profusely about her friend before makeout.

I dont have any contact after date, waiting to see if I hear anything from her. I get the text:

"Thanks again for driving in moderately shitty weather to hang out with me (and Emily) last night!"

I dropped some knowledge about this sick pub in my town last night but didnt suggest we go there, hopefully the hamster picked it up. I pretty far from the major town where all the good bars and women are, so I am already at a huge disadvantage that I need to drive to meet for a quick drink. This already makes me look needy I think. I usually try to meet them in their town, and second date get them in my area for dinner and a movie (and hopefully bang)

anyways, not sure how to respond to this text, maybe suggest she owes me a trip down here. This girl is a pretty epic shit tester, and I feel like I can pass them in person but not over text.

(04-30-2014 03:17 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  Imagine if she had a boyfriend instead of a girlfriend, but wanted to hang out with you.

Would that change your approach?

She's ripe for a fucking. Keep pursuing, but you need to escalate at her job somehow.

Is it possible to pull her in a hallway at the breakfast place/kiss her etc? That's what needs to happen.

I am a pretty honorable dude and don't really go for chicks who are taken, personally. This feels different because she is obviously a sort of switch-hitter and I have this weird perception that gay relationships, being way less traditional, are not very "serious." Like they are whatever and will fuck around regardless - especially gay females. Am I wrong in my assumptions? I honestly don't have a lot of personal real-life experience with lesbians so I feel bit ignorant in the matter.

Obviously she is not full-fledged homo otherwise her dyke GF wouldn't be worried about her hanging out with me because nothing would happen,

(04-30-2014 03:39 PM)MtnMan Wrote:  "Thanks again for driving in moderately shitty weather to hang out with me (and Emily) last night!"

How about "You're welcome"

Let it sit a while, text her when you have a plan for getting together the next time.

Kinda had a odd exchange just recently, wondering if anyone could offer advice.

Background info: Matched on Tinder, she's 18, I'm 21. Texts are verbatim.

<Tinder>

HER: Hi (1834)
ME: Hey hows it going (1834)
HER: Gewd! You? (1839)
ME: Eh not so bad i figure - so tell me something about yourself (1843)
HER: Hmm well I do ballet, wbu? (1903)
ME: Well I play hockey - obviously <tinder pic is me in hockey uniform> and I was born outside Canada - the weird ethnic name kinda gives it away haha (1909)
HER: Oh where r u from? And hockey is pretty sweet (1933)
ME: I was born in southeastern Europe - but I came over when I was really young. I've done my fair share of traveling (1935)
HER: Wow so coool! (1935)
ME: Haha thx so I'd be down to hang out later in the week if your free (1936)
HER: I was born in england but only stayed there for a week (1936)
HER: And really? (1937)
HER: Where do u live (1937)
ME: England's pretty cool as well and I go to <local uni> so I'm in res right now (1938)
HER: Ah cool! <my uni> is pretty chill (1940)
HER: Haha I work out at the gym there (1940)
ME: Nice when are you free anytime soon (1941)
HER: Haha um sunday? Haha im very busy with ballet class and school and homework (1944)
ME: Sunday should work on my end - let me figure some things out. Can you send me your phone # and I'll txt you mine (1948)
HER: Haha <phone #>

I then txt her ...

ME: Hey its <rytech> (1952)
HER: Hey sry gtg teach a hiphop class (2008)
ME: Kk np (2010)

Then this happens ....

HER: Ok back (2048)
ME: How was the teaching (2055)
HER: Good, and btw if ur plan is to get in my pants or somethig. Plz fuck off (2057)
ME: Wow harsh (2059)
ME: Are you always that blunt with people (2101)
HER: Haha im fucking serious (2103)
ME: Whatev (2105)
ME: how can I already have a plan if I haven't met you yet. For all I know you have gross eating habits that would be a show stopper ;P (2114)
HER: Hahha ya! Thats it! (2119)
ME: Lol your a weird one (2122)
HER: Definitely (2122)

Planning on txting in a couple days suggesting solid plans for a Sunday meetup. Any thoughts/comments/things I could improve?

You're doing fine, that is just her trying to put up some "good girl" resistance. "Just fyi I ain't no slut!" just ignore and go about business. Lock in plans - think of it like her trying to play a little hard to get.

(04-30-2014 03:39 PM)MtnMan Wrote:  background, hooked up with hb7 Saturday from bar, but no sex. Heavy LMR that I failed to get past. Spent the night, hung in the morning for a bit, both parties seemed to like the other.

went out with her last night, her friend shows up unannounced and proceeds to hang with us the ENTIRE night, i fail to build required momentum, and only get a makeout in her car. I figure I may be dead in the water after failing to bang two times. She apologized profusely about her friend before makeout.

I dont have any contact after date, waiting to see if I hear anything from her. I get the text:

"Thanks again for driving in moderately shitty weather to hang out with me (and Emily) last night!"

I dropped some knowledge about this sick pub in my town last night but didnt suggest we go there, hopefully the hamster picked it up. I pretty far from the major town where all the good bars and women are, so I am already at a huge disadvantage that I need to drive to meet for a quick drink. This already makes me look needy I think. I usually try to meet them in their town, and second date get them in my area for dinner and a movie (and hopefully bang)

anyways, not sure how to respond to this text, maybe suggest she owes me a trip down here. This girl is a pretty epic shit tester, and I feel like I can pass them in person but not over text.

I would ignore her and then invite her over to your place or the pub near you. If to your place, have her bring a bottle of wine or the movie, either or (both even better!).

Question: Why didn't you feel her up in the car, get her fingered at least?

(04-30-2014 04:22 PM)rytech Wrote:  Kinda had a odd exchange just recently, wondering if anyone could offer advice.

Background info: Matched on Tinder, she's 18, I'm 21. Texts are verbatim.

<Tinder>

HER: Hi (1834)
ME: Hey hows it going (1834)
HER: Gewd! You? (1839)
ME: Eh not so bad i figure - so tell me something about yourself (1843)
HER: Hmm well I do ballet, wbu? (1903)
ME: Well I play hockey - obviously <tinder pic is me in hockey uniform> and I was born outside Canada - the weird ethnic name kinda gives it away haha (1909)
HER: Oh where r u from? And hockey is pretty sweet (1933)
ME: I was born in southeastern Europe - but I came over when I was really young. I've done my fair share of traveling (1935)
HER: Wow so coool! (1935)
ME: Haha thx so I'd be down to hang out later in the week if your free (1936)
HER: I was born in england but only stayed there for a week (1936)
HER: And really? (1937)
HER: Where do u live (1937)
ME: England's pretty cool as well and I go to <local uni> so I'm in res right now (1938)
HER: Ah cool! <my uni> is pretty chill (1940)
HER: Haha I work out at the gym there (1940)
ME: Nice when are you free anytime soon (1941)
HER: Haha um sunday? Haha im very busy with ballet class and school and homework (1944)
ME: Sunday should work on my end - let me figure some things out. Can you send me your phone # and I'll txt you mine (1948)
HER: Haha <phone #>

I then txt her ...

ME: Hey its <rytech> (1952)
HER: Hey sry gtg teach a hiphop class (2008)
ME: Kk np (2010)

Then this happens ....

HER: Ok back (2048)
ME: How was the teaching (2055)
HER: Good, and btw if ur plan is to get in my pants or somethig. Plz fuck off (2057)
ME: Wow harsh (2059)
ME: Are you always that blunt with people (2101)
HER: Haha im fucking serious (2103)
ME: Whatev (2105)
ME: how can I already have a plan if I haven't met you yet. For all I know you have gross eating habits that would be a show stopper ;P (2114)
HER: Hahha ya! Thats it! (2119)
ME: Lol your a weird one (2122)
HER: Definitely (2122)

Planning on txting in a couple days suggesting solid plans for a Sunday meetup. Any thoughts/comments/things I could improve?

While there are other things you can improve on, I'm going to point out the first things that stand out. See everything I put in bold in my quote of your post above? Those are all lines that have "lol" or "kk" or a smiley of some sort in them. Notice how many of them there are? I think I count 2 uses of smileys by her. You need to cut that shit WAY down.

You need to have her qualifying to you. Your shit test response was kind of weak. Notice how you then called her weird and she just agreed. You need to turn it around and get her to meet up.

"Am I wrong in my assumptions? I honestly don't have a lot of personal real-life experience with lesbians so I feel bit ignorant in the matter."

No. I've pulled 'lipstick lesbians' before from thei dyke girlfriends by being very MASCULINE. No matter how short the dyke's haircut is, no matter how many A&F shirts she wears and how masculine she is, she's no match for a real man.

The lipstick lesbian is craving a male and a real cock. You're doing a public service to pull her.

I read this lipstick lesbian bit this afternoon, and no more than 10 minutes later this chick i met last weekend (asian lipstick lesbian hb7.5 with girlfriend) starts hitting me up hard over facebook and obviously flirting and shit testing. Completely out of the blue.
Glad I read this, maybe I can use some pointers from here.
Cheers.

Hmmm well the breakfast place is certainly not ideal to get her alone. It's small and basically one large room with a double door to the kitchen on one wall. We'll see.

Met this girl (7.5/10) twice. First date went well but no kiss-close, second date was so-so because she brought a friend along and behaved inhibited.

Yesterday we were supposed to meet but she flaked 30 minutes before the appointment with a lame excuse. The conversation went like this:

Me: Shoot me a text once you're finished with work.
Her: Ok, but it won't be until 21.00 I think. Maybe 20.00.
Me: k

That was around mid-day. Later in the evening I wrote her again:

Me: So, how is your work going? Wanna meet at 21.00 in the centre?
Her: I was about to text you, the thing is one of my best friends is coming back to town and I have to go see him. Do you think we can meet some time next week?

Me: Unsubscribe.
Her: Excuse me?

I didn't answer that text but some hours later she wrote me:

hey Flint, I'm really sorry I couldn't come tonight, it was really short notice and I couldn't miss the event. I understand your reaction and it's your right... just to let you know: it was no excuse, but something important and I really had to be there.

That was yesterday and I'm considering writing back, but what?

^ It sounds like you had zero sex or escalation on your first 2 dates so she was in no hurry to bend over backwards(literally or in her schedule) for a third date. If you had smashed her good on the second date she might have responded differently "I have an event so if we meet this evening it will have to be later than we originally planned" or some such.

Go for logistics. I would suggest trying to get her to come straight to your place since you have already been out with her twice. If your phone game is better than your text game, I would suggest trying to get her on the phone. just say "hey are you around, can I call?" and then invite her over.

(05-04-2014 07:00 AM)Flint Wrote:  Met this girl (7.5/10) twice. First date went well but no kiss-close, second date was so-so because she brought a friend along and behaved inhibited.

Yesterday we were supposed to meet but she flaked 30 minutes before the appointment with a lame excuse. The conversation went like this:

Me: Shoot me a text once you're finished with work.
Her: Ok, but it won't be until 21.00 I think. Maybe 20.00.
Me: k

That was around mid-day. Later in the evening I wrote her again:

Me: So, how is your work going? Wanna meet at 21.00 in the centre?
Her: I was about to text you, the thing is one of my best friends is coming back to town and I have to go see him. Do you think we can meet some time next week?

Me: Unsubscribe.
Her: Excuse me?

I didn't answer that text but some hours later she wrote me:

hey Flint, I'm really sorry I couldn't come tonight, it was really short notice and I couldn't miss the event. I understand your reaction and it's your right... just to let you know: it was no excuse, but something important and I really had to be there.

That was yesterday and I'm considering writing back, but what?

Try to write it off with playfulness. Ask her to bring wine and movie so you can both watch it at your place.

If you can't set up the date at your place do it at a bar near your crib. Say the drinks will be on her when you meet at the bar. Bring her back to your place and bang.

Went on a date with a girl on Tuesday, in my opinion it went really well. We kissed in the end. She said cya later when leaving.

We made a bet during the date who has to pay breakfast and I lost the bet. (It was about a beer if it was vegan)

Texted her yesterday: Breakfast Saturday?
She replied today: Most likely not.

I've got no idea what to say next. Any help is appreciated.

Edit: What about "Dinner and your chance to win at Four Connect it is then."
(We played that game.)

This is with a girl from my uni who recently seems to have developed in interest in me. She and I have been texting rather frequently lately. I was supposed to go out on a date with her today but I actually flaked myself (by accident, I totally overslept because I got so fucking wasted the night before).

It's early in the evening now and she and I have been texting on and off again. Now after a short period of silence from my side, she texted this:

her: "I'm bored to death."

me: "So what are we going to do about it?"

her: "I don't know at all. I've been trying to work on homework but mehhh."

me: "Same. I'm tired of this shit. I need someone to distract me from it."

her: "Yeah."

me: "I could come over."

her: "That's okay. I'll go to bed in 2 hours anyway."


That last text, I have no idea how I should interpret that. Is this a clear hint that she wants the D or is this a hint that she doesn't want to meet up right now? Is it a shit test or not?

^Never Suggest. Always Lead.

Instead of saying, "I could come over", should have said this: "I'll be over in a few"

Girls want to be led.

In response to that, I would just ignore her. She'll probably send another text.

Thing is is you don't want to be caught up in text hell just because a girl is bored and is looking for a distraction. Always be busy, doing something (at least in the appearance to her) and keep it short.

^You could also respond with: "

relax sunshine I'm bringing you a bedtime story to tuck u in with"

Solid advice from Christian McQueen as usual. I'll try to be more assertive next time.

I always find it difficult with texting to find the sweet spot between being assertive and overwhelming. With text it's always easy to misinterpret what you or the other said. I don't want to appear needy nor do I want to overwhelm her. It happened to me before, where I basically overwhelmed a chick by being too forceful or too pushy, which scared her off and made her flake or simply drop contact altogether.

Maybe I should just give her a call and try to set something up over the phone rather than through text?