Thanks soup, I know. I had low self esteem around then and knew I shoukdnt feel that way. Time to get rid of that feeling .

soup my success rate on 1st meets on Friday/sat nights are terrible too..girls automatically assume lesser of you. I got several #'s off tinder today and didn't bother trying for tonight even though I had no set plans

@soup

I still approach anyway.

Weekend first dates never worked out for me either. My cure for this was to only set them up for very late...meeting at 130 or 2am. At that time the girl has had her fun and is usually a little drunk, and its almost a guaranteed bang in the bag if she agrees to meet.

The problem is that at that point in the night I have been meeting tons of new girls and know in the back of my mind I have to give them up...ahhh, a players dilemma...

I just signed up on POF just to see whats out there since I haven't been on for about 4 months or so and I think I finally realized most of the attractive girls say "I'm not looking for a relationship but I also don't do booty calls. I'm just looking for friends"

I finally realized most of the girls are on there just to collect orbiters but will fuck a guy if he stands out enough it seems.

Hectic days for my game this week..

On Thurs, one of my regulars who has been trying to hook it up with a threesome came back to my house with her friend- we've all fucked before, but she got emo about it and left.

Then it was flaky Friday and all my dates fell through.

Then yesterday this crazy bitch tells me she has herpes after she let me finger her. I don't think I got it, but if I did, maybe I can sue her?

I went out to clear my mind. Got a drink. Met up with my buddy. We hit the street and went to check out the usual pulling spots. Slow, rainy Saturday night. We said goodbyes and went to the subway. Waiting for the train, I picked up a young girl from Spain (7 could be even more, but she had some funky mole type things on her face). Time from meet to bang was under half hour. Sex was great. We did it raw.

Something to be said for waiting until you go out. Let all the other guys do the work of getting girls drunk, and you can just wait for them in the subway or on the street.

Picking up girls on the train late at night is some of the most fun a man can have.

It's like starring in a silly movie.

Sometimes I am happy when its closing time and I don't have a girl with me.

Just to see what happens on the subway platform.

Fuck yes soup.

I've decided I can have long hair, or a long beard, but not both... especially in this never-ending winter, still having to wear heavy coats as we knock on April's door, the combination really gives me that nice homeless look that girls love.

The question is, which one goes... I'm leaning beard, maybe do the real nice Wolverine sideburns thing for awhile.

(03-30-2014 12:02 PM)CJ Wrote:  I've decided I can have long hair, or a long beard, but not both... especially in this never-ending winter, still having to wear heavy coats as we knock on April's door, the combination really gives me that nice homeless look that girls love.

The question is, which one goes... I'm leaning beard, maybe do the real nice Wolverine sideburns thing for awhile.

I've actually come to the opposite conclusion. I've had long hair while clean shaven. I've had a long beard with short hair. Now I have both, and the combo just works better for me. The long hair alone was too feminine. The long beard by itself didn't fit my face.

delete

Searched women 30-45 for fun on okc.

Not one single decent looking woman, all of them have hit the wall hard.

Is this what being old is like?

I'm scared of having low smv and having to date these women as my options. Just goes to show how important it is to bang as many young women as possible.

Now i feel slightly bothered I'm not banging hot girls in their prime. I only get girls I'm not that interested in.

Valhalla why are you terrified? You sound like a woman

I was referring to being terrified by how ugly they looked.

I don't want to have to bang/date these ugly women when I'm old. I also slightly feel like im wasting away my youth.

It just stresses the importance of having a high SMV and setting up your lifestyle/cash correctly so you can still get at young women when older.

(03-31-2014 02:37 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  I was referring to being terrified by how ugly they looked.

I don't want to have to bang/date these ugly women when I'm old. I also slightly feel like im wasting away my youth.

It just stresses the importance of having a high SMV and setting up your lifestyle/cash correctly so you can still get at young women when older.

You are an obvious newbie. Go read all those threads.

(03-31-2014 02:37 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  I was referring to being terrified by how ugly they looked.

I don't want to have to bang/date these ugly women when I'm old. I also slightly feel like im wasting away my youth.

It just stresses the importance of having a high SMV and setting up your lifestyle/cash correctly so you can still get at young women when older.

I feel like, you want to prove your Self, to the "Big boys";

I strongly suggest, for your own sake, that you not let your ego, and pride,
Get the best out of you.

Yeah, or something bad might happen to ya..

(03-27-2014 11:08 AM)YoungDominican Wrote:  I tried this line out and it worked pretty well. If the girl has a boyfriend and she is going with the pick up.
Her : I have a boyfriend.
Player : Oh, Yeah well I'm a home wrecker. *smile* You should probably watch yourself around me.

Ok so with more trial, this line doesn't really go anywhere. It's better to just ask if she's happy or ignore it and keep rolling from there.

Had a solid 15 minute interaction with a model type. instadate wasn't happening; went for the #, she says:

"i don't think we should play with fate; if we're meant to see each other again it will happen."

I looked at her like I would look at GW Bush giving a speech about physics and asked if she was religious or spiritual, she passionately said absolutely not. Bantered some more, seeded a meetup idea for the night, went for # again, back to "fate".

I replied, "You know, for a girl who says she's open minded, I think it's bizarre that you resign yourself to something you don't even believe in. You seem to be in control of your life and I think it's more fun when we take advantage of opportunities that are in front of us."

She smiled and said she'd like to take my number; I offered to exchange instead, loaded her name in, no go. She insisted on my # only; I told her to text me, she said she will (doubtful). I put my phone away, smirked and started revving down and ejecting from the convo, now she was trying to pull me back in. Wished her well and went about my business.

My take is she liked the attention and after 15 minutes I doubt more rapport would have done anything. I'm thinking I should have pushed for SDL, you know, fate and all, aka now or never.

(04-01-2014 08:58 PM)unbowed Wrote:  My take is she liked the attention and after 15 minutes I doubt more rapport would have done anything. I'm thinking I should have pushed for SDL, you know, fate and all, aka now or never.

Top shelf girls are a tough group to crack.

Solid attempt.

(03-30-2014 06:23 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 12:02 PM)CJ Wrote:  I've decided I can have long hair, or a long beard, but not both... especially in this never-ending winter, still having to wear heavy coats as we knock on April's door, the combination really gives me that nice homeless look that girls love.

The question is, which one goes... I'm leaning beard, maybe do the real nice Wolverine sideburns thing for awhile.

I've actually come to the opposite conclusion. I've had long hair while clean shaven. I've had a long beard with short hair. Now I have both, and the combo just works better for me. The long hair alone was too feminine. The long beard by itself didn't fit my face.

I shaved the beard, and am going to just rock the 5 o'clock for now, I don't know if this works best for me, but it's what I feel like doing right now.

(03-30-2014 10:27 AM)soup Wrote:  Something to be said for waiting until you go out. Let all the other guys do the work of getting girls drunk, and you can just wait for them in the subway or on the street.

I've noticed from gleaning okc questions that women consistently prefer men to be "dark and mysterious"

Does anyone run this type of game and how can one cultivate that vibe?

By being by and large unavailable to her until you are ready to interact

Setting the tone of the relationship, how often you see her, and when you see her

If she only gets ONE day a week, and IF she is into you she will start to look forward to that ONE day a week. It becomes a "special" day in her mind. She will go harder to earn a second and third day.

The rest of your life is "off limits"

(04-04-2014 07:25 AM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  If she only gets ONE day a week, and IF she is into you she will start to look forward to that ONE day a week. It becomes a "special" day in her mind. She will go harder to earn a second and third day.

The rest of your life is "off limits"

Excellent mindset.

(04-04-2014 07:03 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  I've noticed from gleaning okc questions that women consistently prefer men to be "dark and mysterious"

Does anyone run this type of game and how can one cultivate that vibe?

This is my typical M.O. Your profile has to be very vague and sarcastic, like my profile has practically one fact about me, everything else is vague. Also in person I don't give much information about myself and keep her guessing. By combining sarcastic answers with real answers, but don't go overboard with this. I've found a safe balance simply because I used to go overboard with this. I always have girls telling me they can't figure me out, but they're clearly into me too.