Post: #1

A number of family members visited yesterday. As it usually does, the conversation turned to my youngest brother, who was not able to attend the family gathering because he had a work shift.

My youngest brother is 20. He's really bright, but has ADD and really struggles with motivation when in school. It took him 5 years to finish high school.

After high school, he tried a year of Bible college, but didn't continue after the first year (where he more or less performed poorly, academically speaking).

He also dated a Bible college fatty for about nearly a year, breaking up with her last fall, as she was having crazy emotional outbursts and trying to pressure him into a quick marriage.

Right now he is working a job that pays ok $14/hour, but isn't quite full time (although he just offered a steady 40hrs/week).

He is very immature, doesn't appreciate family members help nearly as much as he should. He shares an apartment with his sister, but she has to handle most cleaning and upkeep/bill payment, because he is simply lazy.



Anyway, yesterday there was talk among my family members about how he was friends with a girl who liked him back and they were hoping that this girl who help him to grow up.



This thinking is stupid. Women don't encourage men to grow up. If a male is benefitting from regular female attraction and he doesn't think that he can do better, he will have no motivation to improve himself.

The very fact that he was dating a fatty (he isn't overweight at all), demonstrates that he has set his sights waaaaaaay to low.

My brother, like me at an early point in my life, lacked the benefit of good male role models, to teach him to never settle for less than he deserved.

I personally set my sights way to low, because I was never taught what I needed to know about women and my own potential.

The missing ingredient was that no one taught me that game existed. Instead, I was encouraged to be a nice guy, believe that things would eventually work out, that I just needed to meet the right girl who would appreciate me for what I was worth.

This was a lie. My family never taught me how to wear clothes that fit (both my parents are great people, but very style unfriendly), and kids that didn't accept me were derided as not worth it anyway.

I was never taught that while bullies are not people to be friends with, if you can't fend off bullies through confidence, you probably seem weak enough that even the nicer kids won't want to be friends with you.

It wasn't until read the Game that my eyes were opened to the fact that you can actually take a full evaluation of yourself and by understanding concepts of sociology, improve yourself in many different ways.

My brother is being encouraged by family to spend time with someone that they think is a nice girl, because they think that it will be a good influence, but they misunderstand how men improve themselves.

My brother needs bros who will give him the honest truth and demonstrate by example that a guy CAN pull himself up by his bootstraps.

No woman REALLY want to improve a man, because they don't want to make him too attractive to other women, for fear of losing him.

That's what is awesome about RVF. It provides a platform for us to have valuable male-male friendships and share the honest truth with each other.

The good news is that, after breaking up with his fatty girlfriend, she went psychotic and stalked him for a while, once forcing her way into his apartment and refusing to leave.

Naturally, all the women and all the white knight men in his social circles took her side, because she's a girl and the guy is always at fault.

He's developed some incredibly red-pill think all on his own. When I visited him recently, I was impressed by how clearly he was beginning to understand the nature of women and will be doing my best to help him take some of the self-improvement steps that worked well for me.

Unfortunately, he has no interest in international travel, which was hugely beneficial to me, but he'll have to find some other ways to boost his confidence and learn that the world can really be at his finger tips, if he is willing to work for it.

I don't think he is ready for RVF (he's pretty religious and wouldn't be impressed by casual sexual behaviour), but with the right group of guys to keep him going in the right direction, I think things will turn out fine for him -- with out needing a woman to "fix" him.

Post: #2

Pain is the best teacher.
My father said pain is the only teacher.

IF my brother was soft like that i'd keep him in a room till i made him understand bitchass behavior like that will not be tolerated in this family.
Any excuse is met with a gut punch until he understands.

A bit extreme but i'd hope my brother would do that some day.

Post: #3

(03-03-2014 12:20 PM)Suits Wrote:  A number of family members visited yesterday. As it usually does, the conversation turned to my youngest brother, who was not able to attend the family gathering because he had a work shift.

My youngest brother is 20. He's really bright, but has ADD and really struggles with motivation when in school. It took him 5 years to finish high school.

After high school, he tried a year of Bible college, but didn't continue after the first year (where he more or less performed poorly, academically speaking).

He also dated a Bible college fatty for about nearly a year, breaking up with her last fall, as she was having crazy emotional outbursts and trying to pressure him into a quick marriage.

Right now he is working a job that pays ok $14/hour, but isn't quite full time (although he just offered a steady 40hrs/week).

He is very immature, doesn't appreciate family members help nearly as much as he should. He shares an apartment with his sister, but she has to handle most cleaning and upkeep/bill payment, because he is simply lazy.



Anyway, yesterday there was talk among my family members about how he was friends with a girl who liked him back and they were hoping that this girl who help him to grow up.



This thinking is stupid. Women don't encourage men to grow up. If a male is benefitting from regular female attraction and he doesn't think that he can do better, he will have no motivation to improve himself.

The very fact that he was dating a fatty (he isn't overweight at all), demonstrates that he has set his sights waaaaaaay to low.

My brother, like me at an early point in my life, lacked the benefit of good male role models, to teach him to never settle for less than he deserved.

I personally set my sights way to low, because I was never taught what I needed to know about women and my own potential.

The missing ingredient was that no one taught me that game existed. Instead, I was encouraged to be a nice guy, believe that things would eventually work out, that I just needed to meet the right girl who would appreciate me for what I was worth.

This was a lie. My family never taught me how to wear clothes that fit (both my parents are great people, but very style unfriendly), and kids that didn't accept me were derided as not worth it anyway.

I was never taught that while bullies are not people to be friends with, if you can't fend off bullies through confidence, you probably seem weak enough that even the nicer kids won't want to be friends with you.

It wasn't until read the Game that my eyes were opened to the fact that you can actually take a full evaluation of yourself and by understanding concepts of sociology, improve yourself in many different ways.

My brother is being encouraged by family to spend time with someone that they think is a nice girl, because they think that it will be a good influence, but they misunderstand how men improve themselves.

My brother needs bros who will give him the honest truth and demonstrate by example that a guy CAN pull himself up by his bootstraps.

No woman REALLY want to improve a man, because they don't want to make him too attractive to other women, for fear of losing him.

That's what is awesome about RVF. It provides a platform for us to have valuable male-male friendships and share the honest truth with each other.

The good news is that, after breaking up with his fatty girlfriend, she went psychotic and stalked him for a while, once forcing her way into his apartment and refusing to leave.

Naturally, all the women and all the white knight men in his social circles took her side, because she's a girl and the guy is always at fault.

He's developed some incredibly red-pill think all on his own. When I visited him recently, I was impressed by how clearly he was beginning to understand the nature of women and will be doing my best to help him take some of the self-improvement steps that worked well for me.

Unfortunately, he has no interest in international travel, which was hugely beneficial to me, but he'll have to find some other ways to boost his confidence and learn that the world can really be at his finger tips, if he is willing to work for it.

I don't think he is ready for RVF (he's pretty religious and wouldn't be impressed by casual sexual behaviour), but with the right group of guys to keep him going in the right direction, I think things will turn out fine for him -- with out needing a woman to "fix" him.

Try and get him into lifting weights? Don't know if he already does/ is already into another sport.

Post: #4

That's an absolute great post Suits!! It reminded me of a quote from the late great Patrice O'neal about comparing the dynamic between men and women to the King and Queen system.

As a King, you could marry or associate with any women, weather she's a blueblood or a peasant, and bring her up to her highest position as a Queen. A Queen simply can't elevate a men that she sees as having lesser value than her above her own position!!

The same dynamic applies to men and women today. All these women saying that they want these these good guys are simply getting sick of them over time since they can't bring themselves to keep a men elevated above them if they perceive him as being easy to boss around. Therefore the saying Happy Wife Happy Life on her terms will bring down your relationship aka your kingdom over time

He goes on to say that you cannot be a nice guy and be a King at the same time. The problem is complex though!! Any sign of you being an assertive man will give you the title of being a misogynist by the very women that want's it deep down!!

Either Alpha or Beta, you're gonna have to fight!! My writing doesn't give his quote it's proper justice! First time I heard it the light went on and it gave me an extra stripe on my manosphere Black Belt. If interested here is the link Patrice O'neal vs K Foxx

Post: #5

I work as a photographer making pictures of wine bottles, perfume sprays, and packaging. My brother works in graphic design. We both work with betas and women.

Last weekend we changed the engine oil, as well as gearbox, and differential oils. About the easiest tasks you can perform in your car.

It was the best thing we did in the whole week.

Post: #6

Your his brother, have you ever spoke to him? Showed him "another way"?

I personally used to be very negative and at those types disliked my brother NOW we have an awesome relationship. Despite him being his own person I've learnt that I influenced him BIG TIME because here it is "his brother" manage to have the ability/access to be around the famous rappers that he enjoys "watching". An it wasn't like I was just TALKING IT. He seen videos of me at the same party as a handful of big rappers (rick ross, Jayz) and he also knows I dislike celebs. For him it was an "eye opener" of the possibilities, if his brother could grow up and manage to be connected within such realms THEN he too should think bigger and outside the box.

Beyond the superficial evidence, he could tell in how I was being. Countless times I've stated to people that the past 3 years of my life were so fulfilling that I could die today and celebrate my death due to the awesomeness. I say do what you enjoy MOST but never settle of anything less or you'll regret it.

Post: #7

(03-03-2014 01:29 PM)kinjutsu Wrote:  Pain is the best teacher.
My father said pain is the only teacher.

IF my brother was soft like that i'd keep him in a room till i made him understand bitchass behavior like that will not be tolerated in this family.
Any excuse is met with a gut punch until he understands.

A bit extreme but i'd hope my brother would do that some day.

This. Great hardships are the best sculptors of a man.