A sports bar is about the worst place to do night game

In my opinion, most night game is a total waste of time.

Unless you are within a social circle, with lots of other people you know, etc.

Just dropping into a dead place and hoping and waiting for something to happen is a losers game.

My best luck has been going into these gourmet grocery stores like Whole Foods Market where there are literally 40 - 50 hot chicks milling about.

And inside those stores there is always a decent excuse to start a conversation.

Another new venue I found by total accident: Victoria's Secret.

I have this girl in my office building I've been flirting around with and joked about getting her lingerie for Xmas present. Well I actually strolled into one of those stores walking around, it was packed. Told the sales girl I was looking to buy something for my "secret admirer" in my office building.

Instantaneously, every girl around me became wild eyed and fascinated, two of them made the comment: "Wow, how hot is that? This guy is going to surprise this girl with a lingerie gift!"

Next line would be, "Well if YOU were my secret admirer target, what would you like me to buy for you?"

Well you can imagine what happened next.

Spending quality time in that situation sure beats sitting alone at an empty sports bar watching fat chicks, hipster losers, middle age couples, etc.

LOL!!!!

I don't know about night game being a total waste of time. Plenty of guys on this forum roll solo to bars and clubs and do just fine.

Problem I'm having is just getting myself in these places.

I also work every single weekend so staying out late on Fridays and Saturdays is really rare/tough to do.

There are tiny dives and larger chain sports bars all around my work/home area. All of these are just like the post I made above--lots of men or undesirable women.

How about more upscale restaurants with bars? I don't know, I feel kind of at a loss for where the fuck to go and when to suit up, not to suit up etc.

Two random thoughts:

Highschool guys aren't just horny because they are going through puberty. Highschool is one of the few situations where the older the girl gets, the more attractive she gets. Most girls don't reach their hottest state until they are at least seniors in highschool.


2) Girls will never understand game. In the future, the redpill will really have to be something like a pill that guys can take- a quick shot that sets them on the right track. Girls will never be able to get it, because part of being a man is facing the adversity of being approaching and being rejected.

Girls do get rejected a lot and have a lot of insecurities. But, they will never know what it is like to deal with the kind of rejection that men deal with. This is not to say that girls don't deal with huge amounts of rejection.. more to say that men and women deal with different kinds of rejection, and they handle it in different ways.

(01-21-2014 11:25 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  I don't know about night game being a total waste of time. Plenty of guys on this forum roll solo to bars and clubs and do just fine.

The problem with night game is that you have a LOT of negative feedback from a lot of people. This breaks down into three groups:

1. Guy whose game is not anywhere near strong enough for night game (most night game occurs in a much more highly charged/competitive environment, it is inherently more difficult/challenging, but can also be very rewarding especially if you're wanting to just get laid).

2. Guy whose night game venue options are very poor. An example would be a guy who lives in bumfuck egypt and there are really no good night game venues around. Thing is, there's probably not that many great options around for attractive women in most of these situations as well.

3. Guy whose selection of night game venues is poor. An example would be a guy who lives in a large city but he's in the suburbs and is choosing to go to sports bars and other night game venues that aren't exactly busy/teeming with women vs spending some money to move or at least drive/cab to a more happening area. I live in a fairly popular beach town and even on a Friday or Saturday night I can find a number of venues that are pretty dead or really slow or old people or what have you and that's within mere blocks of each other.

You'll notice that even the best daygamers or just guys who get laid a lot in all kinds of situations/venues won't completely knock night game. There's just no reason to if you have your value/game/confidence sorted and your venues/logistics choices are well thought out.

At night when there is a distribution of bangable women, do you start approaching at the low end and work up (6 to 8) or the reverse (8 to 6)?

Just had a goofy blowjob.

(01-21-2014 03:40 PM)pheonix500000 Wrote:  

(01-21-2014 02:03 PM)horn Wrote:  I don't know why you would waste time with a lying bitch. Next.

They all lie

Maybe. But they're not all bitches.

Do you guys think game just might not work for certain people?

Excluding obvious unwanted traits(fat etc)

(01-25-2014 02:56 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  Do you guys think game just might not work for certain people?

Excluding obvious unwanted traits(fat etc)

Define what you mean by game.

(01-23-2014 06:25 PM)Menace Wrote:  At night when there is a distribution of bangable women, do you start approaching at the low end and work up (6 to 8) or the reverse (8 to 6)?

I go to whoever's receptive and work my way up assuming they aren't ugly/fat. The receptive woman will give you a quick boost of confidence which will help you with the better woman.

(01-21-2014 11:25 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  I don't know about night game being a total waste of time. Plenty of guys on this forum roll solo to bars and clubs and do just fine.

Problem I'm having is just getting myself in these places.

How about more upscale restaurants with bars? I don't know, I feel kind of at a loss for where the fuck to go and when to suit up, not to suit up etc.

Yes. Upscale hotel bars and restaurants with bars are fantastic places to game solo.

I would estimate that half the women drinking alone at a hotel bar would sleep with a guy with any sort of game. They're traveling, they're alone, they are drinking at the bar.

Worst case you get a number for when they are back in town. But some of them are looking for a ONS. Esp in big cities like NYC where it's very unlikely they'll run into anybody they know from back home at a hotel bar.

The more upscale, the more you need to be suited up.

What the fuck am I supposed to do stuck at military school.

Jaws there are military guys here- pm aliblahblAh.

Flaking on a first date with a girl you meet during the day seems has been a consistently powerful move. I think there's something a girl really enjoys about meeting a quality man randomly during the day.

There's something inherently beta about meeting a girl at a coffee shop, but that sprinkle of incredible alpha leaves her panties in a ruffle.

I'm in tonight. Got one of my girls coming over.

I'm sort of changing up my strategies now- looking for new locations and opportunities as well as getting a different style (more suits, less rock and roll leather jacket).

Is there a thread on how to get a girlfriend?

The whole website explains how to work with women.

Got opened by a dime in the elevator today.I was coming back from a long day at work and walk into my building elevator. It's just me and her and she asks me about my company because of the design of my laptop bag.Turns out we both work for the same firm. She's getting off at 20 and I'm on 23. I walk out with her on 20, she asks me what floor I'm on and I tell here 23 but came with to talk to her. We chat for a bit and she gives me her official name and says we'll chat on the online company IM system.I don't push and decide to play it slow.

I go home and google her and turns out she was a contestant on Miss New York USA this year and finished in the top 5.

This is going to be a tough nut to crack though.Any thoughts?

Just pulled a solo Polish chick home tonight from the bar. I had lazer beamed in on her long exposed legs, pointing out and away from the bar. I could hardly believe all the SF manginas just standing around and no one had approached her. We really hit it off.

When we got to my room, she wanted to watch tennis. I figured fuck it, let her watch. We can bang after the game.

Her guy lost. She got in a mood. It killed the vibe. 3:00am. Tried to caveman. Went downtown. Saw the string. Killed my boner. Said, "sorry. You have my number though". She just left.

Charge it to the game

(01-26-2014 05:01 AM)NewGamer Wrote:  Got opened by a dime in the elevator today.

This is going to be a tough nut to crack though. Any thoughts?

Don't assume its going to be tough. That sets a mental frame that she is the prize and you will have to work hard to earn the prize.

Fuck that! You really don't know how much resistance she will give you..

She might really like you, she might be a big slut, you might be just her type, you never know until you engage her. If you are gonna make assumptions, make an assumption that is advantageous for you.

Assume that she likes you. This sets a better mental frame. This takes some pressure off and allows you to act from a place of confidence.

Use the company IM to contact to her, something like -- "hey stephanie, nice chatting with you in the elevator about xyz, that stuff is hilarious. Wanna grab lunch sometime?"

Whatever you guys talked about in the elevator, build from that topic. Refer back to it, joke about it, expand on it.

She noticed you, she opened you. Assume she likes you.

I wouldn't contact her on Monday, I would wait til Wednesday.

(01-25-2014 05:28 PM)Jaws Wrote:  What the fuck am I supposed to do stuck at military school.

I think 'Walderschmidt' goes to a military academy in Europe.

It seems girls have just recently become cunty and even more unfriendly than usual in my parts.

I am not sure if I have unknowingly become ugly or what! But these chicks don't smile!

One of these nights, I need to find my inner Tony Montana and hit these Schlotskys or Red Robin bitches with this 2:17

(01-26-2014 07:08 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  It seems girls have just recently become cunty and even more unfriendly than usual in my parts.

I am not sure if I have unknowingly become ugly or what! But these chicks don't smile!

One of these nights, I need to find my inner Tony Montana and hit these Schlotskys or Red Robin bitches with this 2:17

Girls are getting hit on from virtually every angle, if they are attractive.

Walk ups, Tinder, IM, Facebook, you name it, so many guys are going for it these days.

Therefore, any eye to eye contact with men must be avoided at all costs, that's why they appear to be so bitchy.

Best strategy is to engage them with some unlikely topic, as if you are not interested. Good line for me is, "I might have left my cellphone here and I'm expecting a business call, can you please dial my phone number for me?"

Your are pretending to be laser beam focused on locating your phone, you couldn't really give a shit about her.

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