(01-12-2014 04:39 PM)soup Wrote:  I'm never the one to say "no we can't see each other". My actions talk for me.

Girls will never understand game. Their brains are just not built to comprehend why we do what we do. I don't believe they can get the idea of someone trying to get better at love. That's one reason why you don't get a second shot after you get blown out. They think you are stuck with whatever game you have.

that's interesting

Good thread. I might as well chime in. I rejoined okcupid last week, been having very mixed results. Joined on tuesday and played the quickmatch app on the phone(like tinder,) first date was on thursday


We meet in a bar a few blocks from my house, she is a ucla grad student in sociology, got her undergrad from princeton, very outdoorsy, likes hiking and kayaking. nice body, face is nothing special. she was totally bangable, it seemed ok at first, but went to shit in a hurry.

at one point she asked if i go back to santa barbara ever, i said yeah, my eye surgeon is there and i just had surgery a year ago for cornea replacement, got great results, one of the best cornea specialists in the nation where people fly in from all over to get theirs done.

She commented that I sound like a senior citizen(she is 31, i have told all of these women that I am 29, so far none of them question it), like someone that doesn't give up their old doctor and insists they were the best.

While this isn't so bad, sometimes its not what you say but how you say it. She just wasn't playful or flirty, just very sarcastic and insulting.

any attraction i had from her went out the window, she kept this up, she may have been joking, idk, idc.

saturday morning I met a singer for lunch: blonde and thin- solid 7.5 but i give her an 8 for having an awesome voice. she is a grad student,28, at usc and studies music. very pretty, had a fun personality. she has a lousy schedule, in between teaching ballroom dancing and flying out to audition for other programs, and of course her grad student courseload. I tried to kiss her at the end but she gave me the cheek, but then hugged me a lot tighter and longer than she had to. I'll definitely try contacting her again, but with her schedule, who knows? we had a tough time just finding an hour where we were both free this weekend

saturday night, i was to meet a clinical phsychologist to see a show and then get drinks. I get free tickets at this theater, and was able to get her on the vip list for their best saturday night show because I know someone in the cast. I met her outside the theater, she looked a lot better than her okc photos: brunette, petite and very flirty. Probably a 7.5. She was very flirty, and had major DTF eyes when we first met up. The next thing she says is that she has to leave because she is sick, but did not want to no show on me(coming to hollywood on a saturday night can be a hassle for parking and traffic, she could have easily just called).

I commented that she looked a lot better in real life, for most of these cupid women, they look slightly worse in real life. she said we should reschedule for later when she is feeling better. She does not text or have a smartphone, as a shrink, she doesn't like the dopamine hits the brain gets when someone gets a text or other notification. The whole date took about 5 minutes because she was sick but ironically, this is probably my best prospect right now.

Today, sunday I had a date with another cupid woman, a nurse. Originally we were going to meet for coffee, she said she was watching the pathers vs 49ers with her friends at a bar. I said we should get coffee after the game, she agreed.

i texted her i might have to work sunday, and would let her know. I didn't get the work for sunday,but got the commecial for monday so i said i wanted to meet at 230 and gave the coffee shop next to where she would be with her friends. She eventually texted me back to come to the bar with her and her friend. and then she texted that she was a little drunk. i texted "wanna make out?" and got no response. i got there, all of the 49ers fans looked to be gone, it was almost all broncos and charger fans.

I tried calling and texting her, because i didnt see her. so i started to leave, she texted me back that she was still there. She was sandwiched in between some people at the bar. I tap her on the shoulder introduce myself, said this wasn't really a great location to try to have a first date(she was sitting literally next to a tv speaker, and asked if she wanted to grab a booth where it was quieter. she just said "No."

Her friends were actually very cool(one guy, one girl,) and said "go on sam, grab a booth". She was thin, petite, and uglier than her photo on okc. I end up talking to her friends who were cool. The seat next to her opened up and so i sat down to try again.

I said 'so you are a nurse, that is cool, do you work in a hospital?"

she said "no".

I said "oh, you're not a nurse?"

She said "no".

I said "what do you do?"

"I'm a nurse, i work in a hospital".

at that point, her friend said "hey sorry to do this, but i am sam's ride and I am leaving"

I said, "dude don't be sorry, this is the worst date of my life, there obviously is no connection here(poiniting to me and samantha), it's all good"

She had shorter hair than her okcupid photos, which i hated, she was duck faced and apparently acts retarded when she drinks but at least she wasn't fat.

I walked out and just chalked it up to the game and was basically laughing about it on the way home.

i have at least one day this week on a sag commercial, possibly 2. And maybe some second dates with hopefully at least one of these women.

On tuesday I have a date with a masseuse I met on ok cupid, drinks at a bar next to her house, she said if it goes well, she would give me a massage. From the UK, huge tits, and red hair. If she looks anything even close to as good as her photos, I will be happy.

This is a decent start to 2014, as far as work and women. I strongly suggest everyone with a smartphone gets on okcupid and does the quickmatching on their phone to supplement their game.

blah, just got text from the singer saying she just wants to be friends but I am a really sweet guy. I heard her sing(she has a youtube channel), it wouldn't shock me to see her on broadway(usc is a top school, she also went to boston university conservatory for her undergrad, one of the top schools in the country for musical theater.)

Have any of you ever tried out christianmingle just to see if you could pull off a single night lay?

As fucked up as it may sound I'm thinking about trying it. I'm not religious at all but I feel like I could make a convincing case otherwise.

So I've got a date tomorrow in the morning.

She says ok, but can you drive me to school when we're done.

I hope to all the gods of this green earth that its a highschool.

I think I'll buy some mirrored aviators tomorrow to go with my minivan.

Never saw this until tonight, now two girls have sent me messages using that iPhone hand wave emoticon.

Anyone else see that recently? Maybe some new meme?

Is it a "hi! over here! attention please!" kind of message?

Had an interesting thing happen with a girl I took home a couple weeks back. I met her at the bar, had a SNL, continued talking to her after that and saw her once more. She's a cool chick, but when I first met her she gave me this vibe that she was a lesbian, so I didn't really go in directly for the kill like I usually would. At the end of the night, chatted her up again, she seemed really interested, so I gamed her a bit and we ended up going home together. We hit it off really well--better than 90% of girls I get with.

I told her after we banged that I thought she was a lesbian at first and she denied it, but then I ask her if she's into chicks at all and she says something to the effect of yes, I like all people but I could never see myself ending up with a girl. I flirt with her a bit more and she ends up suggesting that we maybe share a girl together sometime. Obviously this is something I'm interested in.

So she goes on a vacation to visit her best friend from a previous place she lived, which I correctly guessed was not her "best friend" but a girl that she was into. I teased her a bit and and she jokingly suggests I come with her. We decided to talk again after she gets back.

So fast forward to now, she's back. I text her 3 or 4 days after she said she was coming back, no response. Again a couple days later and get a response 3 hours later saying something to the effect that she fell in love with this girl on vacation and it would be weird for us to get together etc. I respond nonchalantly at that moment then tell her the next day we had a good connection blah blah blah. She responds very positively, but is definitely commited to this girl.

Very weird situation. I actually like this one and was thinking to bring her into the rotation and/or potentially make her my main chick. Not to mention the added plus of having a girl that wants to have threesomes.. But it appears that isn't going to happen.

Very strange feeling getting beaten out by a girl. It's not as disappointing as getting beaten out by a guy. Just feels more helpless.

Anything like this ever happen to you guys before? Any suggestions on what I can do to bring her back into the inner circle?

It could be. It's just a hand waving.

Interesting last few days

Went cruising through town, decided to stp off for gas. Out of the corner of my eye, I see a PYT with a banging ass body and cute face (EASILY 8.5) crossing the street walking towards Burger King. She walks up to the door and pauses, I pull in to investigate, but as I get closer I see the place closed.

I walk up to introduce, and notice she is crying. I ask what's wrong and she proceeds to give me a sob story about her "friend" kicking her out of his car. My spidey senses are tingling at this point, so I ask a few more questions and find out she is 21 and the friend was an older guy who was fucking her for about a month. Turns out, he was a wanna be pimp looking to "sell" her off to a couple of his buddies.

She jumps in my car, and her phone is blowing up with his messages. My first instinct was to drive to the nearest hotel since I already had a chick waiting for me at my apartment. Since she was pretty distraught, I decided instead to sprinkle some game and set a few traps for later. She started telling me her vices, smoking Loud and drinking...typical shit.

Came up to her mom's place and she hugged me like a long lost lover. I kept my cool and gave her the # to my backup phone and I told her we would link up soon. Same night she texts how she appreciated the ride and how she wanted to get to know me better yada yada yada. I replied back but I was very short.

Just checked that backup phone earlier, two msgs from her...one asking "where r u?:..txted back I was outta town

EDIT: As Im typing this, she just texted saying she's off the next couple days...It's closing time

(01-13-2014 01:47 AM)WesternCancer Wrote:  So I've got a date tomorrow in the morning.

She says ok, but can you drive me to school when we're done.

I hope to all the gods of this green earth that its a highschool.

I think I'll buy some mirrored aviators tomorrow to go with my minivan.

God damnit she flaked last minute!!!

She better be on her rag or some shit, but she wants to reschedule for same time tomorrow. Maybe she had a bad hair day, or just got dicked down by a fuck buddy or something.

I replied with "ugh, now i have to go to the gym today"

and she was all omg I'm going 2 lets workout!!!

I told her she could be my cheerleader, ha.

I have 5 girls in my harem now and I'm banging three of them a week usually

Only two of them expect me to do the quasi-boyfriend thing-of the other three one is a fuckbuddy who just likes to hang out and drink and then fuck occasionally, one is married and wants nothing but sex and sexting and the other lives two hours away and expects to see me maybe twice a month.

The sex and the variety is killing my motivation to game though; I haven't even pursued a new notch in 2014 yet. I'm happy just rotating between their houses for now. I think that's normal; after all the gaming I did last year a little break is needed. Everything goes in cycles.

Haven't posted in this thread in a while. Just before the end of 2013 I had some more drama with my FWB Maria involving a friend of my roommate (who I thought wasn't even single so I was just talking to her one night after getting back late from a work gig, when Maria came out of my bedroom and tried to be dramatic). That ended it with Maria the next day, unsurprisingly.

Prior to this night this girl (let's call her track & field) came up to me to say goodbye at the beach and I ended up giving her a quick massage because her back hurt. Didn't think much of it but found out that she was single the night of the drama with my FWB and promptly pursued track&field.

She was into it so I hung out with her a few times and had her stay over, she changed her new year's eve plans to come out and join me at a party of 25-30 people almost all of whom I invited last minute (talking less than 12 hours notice...not even sure how I pulled that off). We had a pretty phenomenal night, then she drove me to the airport and then picked me up a week later and it's been great since.

Just hurt myself and she's been playing nurse. Gonna have to pay some attention to keep her while I'm kind of laid up, but she seems as into me as I am into her. Actually got butterflies with this chick just making out with her. It's like an inferno. Been a long time. Pretty girl, nerdy, raised by her dad/bro, silly sense of humor/great laugh, kick ass track & field body, very feminine yet easy going, I am very much enjoying it. Type of girl I would have an exclusive/serious relationship with but I'm not holding my breath until it's played out some more.

EDIT: I found out from my roommate that another guy had been asking around about track&field. I am 99% certain I know who it was, as he is a friend who came to the NYE party and I could see through his drunkenness the complete jealousy he had of me as she flirted, kissed, and hung all over me. Dude is probably better looking than me, more successful, and in better shape, lots more experience with girls than me too. Very proud of myself for scooping her before he had a chance. We met track&field at the same time when she wasn't single so I found that out and backed off, kept being my cool self, took the opportunity when I smelled that there was even a chance at all.

Here's to 2014.

Really digging my new regular. She's got this sexy petite body with excellent ballerina's ass (which she is), long hair down to her ass, big blue eyes, she loves my dick, she buys me drinks and food, apparently she's a great cook.

She loves dressing like anime/goth slut for me- tonight she wore thigh high striped stockings, and she loves to wear high-skirts and heels. She's got some tats, but it's not so bad. The type of girl you'd see on the street and want to fuck her senseless. And she just told me she's not looking for any serious (she's separated from her husband).

Good times. It's cool when hanging with a girl gets better. She's into kinky shit. And we raw dog because she's on the pill. Nice little pussy.

My other regular isn't getting back to me. You win some, you lose some.

Starting to think that the biggest shit test that exists is the game itself. The minute you take on the girl as an adversary, you are setting her as an equal, or more. Is it really worth all the lmr and uphill battle stuff? I'm trying to figure out how struggling with a six or seven will help bag 8-9. They seem like completely different animals.

Maybe it's true that if you struggle with lower quality you aren't ready for the higher, but maybe it would be better to just work on the highest quality girls. That seems like the only way to increase skill with that group.

(01-16-2014 05:33 AM)soup Wrote:  Starting to think that the biggest shit test that exists is the game itself. The minute you take on the girl as an adversary, you are setting her as an equal, or more. Is it really worth all the lmr and uphill battle stuff? I'm trying to figure out how struggling with a six or seven will help bag 8-9. They seem like completely different animals.

Maybe it's true that if you struggle with lower quality you aren't ready for the higher, but maybe it would be better to just work on the highest quality girls. That seems like the only way to increase skill with that group.

i am confused. soup, I read your comments, i guess i assumed you basically had the same approach as I do: I will bang a 6 or 7 but don't think they are worth putting as much effort or energy as banging an 8 or 9. I act like I am not that interested in 6s and 7s because I am NOT that interested in 6s and 7s. would I bang? sure, but I would be the one putting up resistance.

How do you guys drop girls you don't want to see without burning them, in case you want to fuck them in the future?

Fade off then renegage later

(01-16-2014 07:43 AM)augen sehen Wrote:  How do you guys drop girls you don't want to see without burning them, in case you want to fuck them in the future?

Yeah, one thing is don't see them too frequently, but still see them (very) occasionally, esp if they wanna see you. I had a once every 1-2 weeks GoTo girl I strung out for 9 months. Then started sorta seeing another chic...GoTo girl texted me like 6 wks later saying she wanted to hang out and I didn't respond. I went back and attempted 7 months later to no avail.
She happened to be a very non-needy non-attention girl...obv most girls won't wait 6 weeks to text you.

(01-16-2014 05:33 AM)soup Wrote:  maybe it would be better to just work on the highest quality girls.

Yes, it would be better, if you are ready for the challenge!

Once you are consistently banging 7s and 7.5s, the next step is start gaming beautiful women.

The best way to get good at gaming beautiful women is of course, to game more beautiful women.

If you want 8s and 9s, you must talk to a lot of 8s and 9s.

I used to practice a lot with 7s, now, I like to challenge myself a bit more..

I just pulled a 19 year old 8 and it was much easier than I expected!

(01-15-2014 03:13 AM)soup Wrote:  You win some, you lose some.

That, is nature of the game!

(01-16-2014 05:33 AM)soup Wrote:  but maybe it would be better to just work on the highest quality girls.

That was basically what I did. I started into only dealing with girls that not only passed the boner test, but aced the test.

That said, I went dry for like, 2 months before I had results.

Here's the problem- aloofness is hot to a girl, but you can't just not do anything. All of game is doing stuff but making it look like you aren't. Good example is the club persona- either Dj or promoter let's say.. He has orchestrated the social situation so that he appears powerful. A girl doesn't see the work, she just gets the experience of being in an environment where that guy is treated like a king.

When you working for the affections of a girl, it looks bad. To get a girl, she had to believe that you are higher in value than her or her current guy.

You should never appear to be working for a girl. This is why I'm against uphill-battle game with any particular girl. Yes, there might be an uphill battle with women as a whole (what I call the collective consciousness of women) but the second you find yourself working for a girl, you've lost the battle.

An example I'm thinking about is last year when I brought a date home and she was putting up massive lmr. It got so late that ditching her to go out to the clubs wasn't an option. That said, I figured that the fact that she was still at my house meant that there was still potential for a bang. I waited it out with her and pushed and pushed. Finally she said ok and we fucked. She was a six.

Compare that to being in a situation where you are the Dj or promoter surrounded by 8-9s who are trying to fuck you. In contrast, the first example doesn't even look like game.

And the truth is that maybe there are only a few avenues to get access to the 8-9s, and that if you do have access to them, you'll never really have to work for anything because, by virtue of even being in the same five foot space or area around them, you are or appear to be a "somebody".

What I'm saying is that I believe that higher quality higher level world of pussy is a lot less stressful than grinding away with 6-7s because the stress is not built into that game. Any girl who is mediocre is going to be suspicious of why you are being so persistent with her.

Do you guys get what I'm saying?

I think it might be easier at the top, and that's how it had to be for you to be there.

(01-16-2014 01:50 PM)soup Wrote:  What I'm saying is that I believe that higher quality higher level world of pussy is a lot less stressful than grinding away with 6-7s because the stress is not built into that game. Any girl who is mediocre is going to be suspicious of why you are being so persistent with her.

Do you guys get what I'm saying?

I think it might be easier at the top, and that's how it had to be for you to be there.

Of course it's a lot less stressful once you're there. Getting to the top is the hard part, not enjoying it once you're there. A big part of game is improving yourself because that's a worthwhile goal but because it also will make many things much easier with women and with life in general.

There's nothing shameful about working hard and putting your blood sweat and tears into something you want. Maybe you're realizing that what you want is not just to bang girls, but to bang high quality girls.

(01-16-2014 01:59 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(01-16-2014 01:50 PM)soup Wrote:  What I'm saying is that I believe that higher quality higher level world of pussy is a lot less stressful than grinding away with 6-7s because the stress is not built into that game. Any girl who is mediocre is going to be suspicious of why you are being so persistent with her.

Do you guys get what I'm saying?

I think it might be easier at the top, and that's how it had to be for you to be there.

Of course it's a lot less stressful once you're there. Getting to the top is the hard part, not enjoying it once you're there. A big part of game is improving yourself because that's a worthwhile goal but because it also will make many things much easier with women and with life in general.

There's nothing shameful about working hard and putting your blood sweat and tears into something you want. Maybe you're realizing that what you want is not just to bang girls, but to bang high quality girls.

I've known that all along- I'm just trying to figure out the best way to manage my time and to get where I'm trying to go.

Is the the path to 8-9s a cumulative next step from working with 6-7s or do you have to bite the bullet, stop wasting (for lack of a better articulation on this) time or energy with 6-7s, and just surround with 8-9s? Like Gio wrote, it could be a steep learning curve and massive dry spell. Maybe there is no correlation.

(01-16-2014 02:07 PM)soup Wrote:  

(01-16-2014 01:59 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(01-16-2014 01:50 PM)soup Wrote:  What I'm saying is that I believe that higher quality higher level world of pussy is a lot less stressful than grinding away with 6-7s because the stress is not built into that game. Any girl who is mediocre is going to be suspicious of why you are being so persistent with her.

Do you guys get what I'm saying?

I think it might be easier at the top, and that's how it had to be for you to be there.

Of course it's a lot less stressful once you're there. Getting to the top is the hard part, not enjoying it once you're there. A big part of game is improving yourself because that's a worthwhile goal but because it also will make many things much easier with women and with life in general.

There's nothing shameful about working hard and putting your blood sweat and tears into something you want. Maybe you're realizing that what you want is not just to bang girls, but to bang high quality girls.

I've known that all along- I'm just trying to figure out the best way to manage my time and to get where I'm trying to go.

Is the the path to 8-9s a cumulative next step from working with 6-7s or do you have to bite the bullet, stop wasting (for lack of a better articulation on this) time or energy with 6-7s, and just surround with 8-9s? Like Gio wrote, it could be a steep learning curve and massive dry spell. Maybe there is no correlation.

I'm not sure that the game changes all that much regardless of a girl's physical attractiveness. In fact, I think the advent of social media has balanced the tables. How much more is the ego on a 9 as compared to a 6? Certainly a lot less than it was prior to FB and Instagram. A 6 can garner 100 likes on a photo, easily. That 6's ego these days is pumped to levels reserved for supermodels just a generation ago.

Additionally, persistent guys get laid as well. Displaying a solid lifestyle, not fucking up, and persistence have landed me in the bed of a few girls I had no business in even approaching a few years ago. Not saying I'm smashing 8's every weekend, but it's a nice treat a couple times a year that leaves me with a post bang glow for days.