(12-17-2013 01:07 PM)soup Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 12:26 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-14-2013 02:05 PM)soup Wrote:  Just banged a SIF on ODS (one day stand).

I guess it's better than jerking it.

Personally, I consider banging fatties to be inferior to masterbation.

In my opinion, masterbation is more honorable.

When you bang a fattie, you give her validation.

I'm not judging in any way, I'm just stating my belief.

I don't believe in banging fat women, they don't deserve our sex.

Make them lose weight if they want sex.

Don't spend time, money, or effort on fat women.

It is disrespectful to yourself!

Only accept oral sex from them in rare circumstances.

It's true, but what if you bring a girl back to your house, and you don't get that she's overweight until she's naked and ready to bone.

Are you going to just kick her out or take the pussy?

BTW I'm not talking about hugely obese women..

I def need to screen better, but once a girl is naked in my house, that's kind of past the event horizon.

My buddy will let me know if I have my beer goggles on or not.
I remember on my 21st bday, I was obliterated. Was making out with a pretty thick girl before we went. Came back from the bar and she was gone. My under 21 friends convinced her to go home before I got back. I was ticked they got her to leave. They showed me a pic of her in the morning. I was told them I still would have hit it, but I appreciated my bros looking out for me and my beer goggles.

(12-17-2013 01:07 PM)soup Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 12:26 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-14-2013 02:05 PM)soup Wrote:  Just banged a SIF on ODS (one day stand).

I guess it's better than jerking it.

Personally, I consider banging fatties to be inferior to masterbation.

In my opinion, masterbation is more honorable.

When you bang a fattie, you give her validation.

I'm not judging in any way, I'm just stating my belief.

I don't believe in banging fat women, they don't deserve our sex.

Make them lose weight if they want sex.

Don't spend time, money, or effort on fat women.

It is disrespectful to yourself!

Only accept oral sex from them in rare circumstances.

It's true, but what if you bring a girl back to your house, and you don't get that she's overweight until she's naked and ready to bone.

Are you going to just kick her out or take the pussy?

BTW I'm not talking about hugely obese women..

I def need to screen better, but once a girl is naked in my house, that's kind of past the event horizon.

I guess that can be a tough situation, especially, if you are really horny.

It has happened to me before. A fat girl was in my home.

She was expecting sex. I told her "sorry", I can't have sex, I had surgery recently".

She blew me instead.

A fat girl with her legs open is disgusting to me.

But, if you banged a fattie, I wouldn't love you any less.

You have built up a lot of credibility as far as I'm concerned.

We have all banged a fattie at some point in our lives.

I did it once or twice and it grossed me out!

I threw away my bed sheets!

Now, I would rather jerk it to some of my homemade movies featuring hot girls.

(12-17-2013 01:07 PM)soup Wrote:  It's true, but what if you bring a girl back to your house, and you don't get that she's overweight until she's naked and ready to bone.

Did you fuck so many girls this year that you developed a rationalization hamster?

Yes maybe I did a little in my quest to get notches in early fall. It's not like I go after fatties mind you.

I just been getting a lot SIF and by the time they are naked in my house, I'm like "fuck it"

I agree with gio 100%.

For more selfish reasons.

If you are a decent looking guy with your shit together and you bang nickels you're making it harder for everyone! Fuck that shit.

We all have some shitty stories to tell, but if you can consciously bang an ugly chick you've made our lives (men and women) worse. The fat chick needs to lose weight because she is unhealthy and you shouldn't be raising her ridiculous standards!

Ok I will try to screen better so I don't accidentally get a fat girl naked in my apartment.

(12-17-2013 03:10 PM)soup Wrote:  Ok I will try to screen better so I don't accidentally get a fat girl naked in my apartment.

No Fat Girls in the Apartment!!!

I should put a sign up.

There's a very religious and spiritual dude who has been frequenting my coffee shop. He tried to convert me to his spirituality bend one time. Despite wanting nothing to do his spiritual pitch, I found him to be very smooth and sharp with his words. His spoken word has a way of putting people at ease.

My problem is that while he tries to convert everyone to his spiritual bend, he's drying up the pussy prospects in my coffee shop. Girls are attracted to his spiritual hand touching and relaxing way of words. I'm not sure if they just find him an interesting gimmick or if he's taking numbers and converting them into bangs. In one way, I have to respect the guy's angle, but in another way it's pissing me off, especially if he's just entertainment for the girls.

I'm trying to borrow some techniques and body language cues because they are undoubtedly effective, but as people who've met me could attest, I'm hardly the easy going spiritual guy.

I did it recently, for admittedly the dumbest reason too. She was a masseuse, def on the thicker side, but she gave me the most mindblowing massage prior at this hollywood hills afterparty 4am. I wanted to get another massage. Id say she was a 4 or 5. Oh well.

I just wanted a BJ, but she begged me to bang. oh well.

(12-15-2013 04:37 PM)soup Wrote:  

(12-15-2013 01:34 AM)Valhalla Wrote:  

(12-12-2013 03:17 PM)Valhalla Wrote:  Trying to set up my first zero date bang with a different hot girl, the logistics are all in place. She has her own place. Not having my own is bothersome.

Met this girl very briefly from one of my courses, got her number and proposed we celebrate by going to the bars since school's almost out. she tells me to hit her up before x days before she leaves to some other state for the holidays. i think it will happen since there's a sense of urgency for her here. She's attractive.

I'm thinking of sending her a standard what's up text, then just straight up use soup's texting style.

something like, "tonight could be a good night to chill"

then when she replies, say something like "kinda cold, maybe we could drink at your place "

we'll see.

almost had it

then she asked if we could go clubbin first, i wasn't up for the idea.
no dance game.

she said she wanted to do more before she left and said maybe next time

it went like this
Me: got this bottle help me finish it
her: What's type of drinks blablabla
me: i tell her and she says ok and address
her: i wanna go out to the clubs tho
me: maybe later. can u host (shoulda said not tonite)
her: okay ;]
me: ill see ya soon
her: are we going out clubbing or no
me: no clubbin for me tonite though we can chill and drink(framed this wrong)
her:blabla its the last time imma be here for a while so id like to do more than just chill and drink on my last weekend
her: next time though :]

think i fucked up or she wasn't down

my plan was to bang then introduce her to my other girl for a 3som

unlikely there will be a next time

maybe I can salvage this and ask her if she's ever kissed a girl and broach the subject

2 things- I would avoid asking her questions.

The other is that you should either say "yes" to a girl or give her a mysterious answer, or don't get back to her until a later time.

I never say "no" to a girl. She asks me if I've ever been to such and such country in Europe, I say yes, even if I haven't.

You could have said: "I'm going out with some friends, maybe we can redezvous"

Then keep leading her on through the night. Eventually get her to meet you at your place.

Learn how to draw things out, otherwise you throwing the frog into boiling water and it going to jump out. Let that shit marinate.

great advice. the rendezvous idea is a great trick, gonna keep that one in the bag.


Thinking of pinging her something to segue us into banging tonight. Maybe get last minute bang the day before she leaves, any ideas??

Thinking of something like "how you celebrating your last day here?"

Fat women with pretty faces. Damn you POF. You see a beautiful face and hope she isnt fat, especially here in South Texas. One just hit me up but she actually has a body shot. Big girl. 5'2 maybe 160.

For Gio and all the future players, I will sham her and hope she loses weight. Maybe in a year or two we will meet and she will tell me I was the Asshole who motivated her to lose weight. I want want the bang but will pat myself for doing what is right.

Don't bang fatty. Not even if she offers to suck you off. You are doing yourself and future players a service.

So I was just on a date with a 8.5/9. Real, not internet. White girl, 5'9-10. Former volley ball player. From SA but not transaction seeking. Normal girl. Smart. A nurse. Nothing happened of note.

What I realized is that these girls are completely ordinary aside from their beauty. We talk about this all the time, but just going out with one you really realize it. Also the world they live in is, as we know, crazy. She was telling me how guys are always coming up to her and her beautiful friends (duh), including pro athletes. With her, I believe it. So, if you are in that environment, the odds of you breaking through that bubble are very very slim.

Also, for whatever reason, I wasn't sexually vibing with her. Has that ever happened to you guys? Girl is legit hot but somehow you can take it or leave it. Maybe it's just my t-levels that are fucking with me. Just a very odd feeling to think that you should be popping major wood over her but you aren't. She was 100% All-American girl. Maybe that's it? Anyway, even though no bang it was a good psychological experience.

(12-17-2013 02:24 PM)soup Wrote:  Yes maybe I did a little in my quest to get notches in early fall. It's not like I go after fatties mind you.

I just been getting a lot SIF and by the time they are naked in my house, I'm like "fuck it"

I've been surfing around OKC. In FT Lauderdale Florida it is ALL fatties. I mean wall to wall fatties.

I'm a daygamer by nature for two reasons:

1. I can visually inspect quality in the unforgiving brightness of sunshine

2. Unlike bars and nightclubs it's easy to isolate and avoid cockblocks.

Online and nightgame just seem fraught with peril. Maybe I'm wrong...

(12-17-2013 04:46 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  There's a very religious and spiritual dude who has been frequenting my coffee shop. He tried to convert me to his spirituality bend one time. Despite wanting nothing to do his spiritual pitch, I found him to be very smooth and sharp with his words. His spoken word has a way of putting people at ease.

My problem is that while he tries to convert everyone to his spiritual bend, he's drying up the pussy prospects in my coffee shop. Girls are attracted to his spiritual hand touching and relaxing way of words. I'm not sure if they just find him an interesting gimmick or if he's taking numbers and converting them into bangs. In one way, I have to respect the guy's angle, but in another way it's pissing me off, especially if he's just entertainment for the girls.

I'm trying to borrow some techniques and body language cues because they are undoubtedly effective, but as people who've met me could attest, I'm hardly the easy going spiritual guy.

Or you could befriend him and siphon the pussy he is attracting..

(12-17-2013 09:49 PM)Shotgun Styles Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 02:24 PM)soup Wrote:  Yes maybe I did a little in my quest to get notches in early fall. It's not like I go after fatties mind you.

I just been getting a lot SIF and by the time they are naked in my house, I'm like "fuck it"

I've been surfing around OKC. In FT Lauderdale Florida it is ALL fatties. I mean wall to wall fatties.

I'm a daygamer by nature for two reasons:

1. I can visually inspect quality in the unforgiving brightness of sunshine

2. Unlike bars and nightclubs it's easy to isolate and avoid cockblocks.

Online and nightgame just seem fraught with peril. Maybe I'm wrong...

There are a gaggle of cute girls on OKC in NYC, just not as much as Tinder, but Tinder has burnt out for me lately so I don't care.

How do you get SIFd so much? One thing you can do to weed out most SIFs is by collarbone. If you can't see the collarbone, or a defined jawline 99.9% of the time it's a SIF.

And is it just me but do most girls look WORSE in person vs online/Tinder?

I had an experience today that really solidified a game concept for me. That is, you can never get angry at hot girls for being flaky because they can justify anything in their own mind. It's something we all know, but it bears repeating.

As you may or may not know, I am currently attending grad school in Japan. At the beginning of the year I was assigned a tutor who happens to be really hot; an easy 9.5. On top of that, she's extremely intelligent. However, she has just about the worst personality of anyone I've ever met. She's a bitch to everyone, she skips class all the time, she never responds to emails about group work, and she generally just acts like a princess. She sweet talks all the beta-ass professors and they lap her shit up. Last semester she showed up to the Friday seminar 2 times out of 21 and somehow passed. Thing is, it's a lecture series on developmental econ where half the fucking grade is attendance (she must give really good head).

Anyways, all of my classes are in Japanese. Presentations on research are rigid and formal, and there's a certain process behind making handouts that must be strictly adhered to. I don't know that process. On Monday I sent a text to my tutor asking her to help me on Wednesday (today). We share an all-day workshop and I had planned to have her check my handout during one of the breaks. She agreed. Fast forward to today... The bitch never shows. She never contacted me, and I couldn't slip out of the workshop to get help from anyone else. I had to give my lecture with the handout as-is, and the professor was very unhappy.

I was pretty pissed, but mostly at myself for trusting such a turd of a person. I sent her a frownie face text and resolved to forget about it, but her response had me livid. The original was obviously in Japanese, but this is the gist: "I'm sorry. I have the flu and was incapable of contacting you. I cannot go outside, so I couldn't meet you this week." I responded with the following: "You knew I was having trouble with the handout for today's presentation. If I'd known you couldn't come, I could have found help elsewhere. The professor was very critical of my handout. You were incapable of contacting me? Were you hospitalized? You had two days. You could have texted me at the very least." (Curse words work differently in Japanese, so this is much more harsh than it sounds... Imagine some F-bombs in there) She read the message about 5 hours ago, but never responded.

I got to thinking about it, and I believe this experience will make getting flaked on easier for me. Japanese girls are notoriously flaky. They'll even blow off shit they set up. But they don't understand that they've done something wrong, so it's almost useless to get angry with them. In some part of their mind, girls know they're being dicks for flaking. However, they also love themselves. They resolve this cognitive dissonance by placing the blame on you for getting angry. I flaked because dude is weird/scary/creepy, therefore I'm in the right. This analysis pops up in many game-related materials, but it never had as much weight in my mind as it does today.

In the end, responding to a flake in just about any manner besides indifference is like getting upset at a dingo for eating your cat. It doesn't know it's wronged you, it just did what it wanted. No matter how much you yell or cry or beg, all it knows is that you're unhappy for some reason and that cats are delicious.

Next time I experience a flake, I'll remember this event and be ready to next the bitch at any time.

(12-18-2013 06:02 AM)blkgatsby Wrote:  How do you get SIFd so much? One thing you can do to weed out most SIFs is by collarbone. If you can't see the collarbone, or a defined jawline 99.9% of the time it's a SIF.

And is it just me but do most girls look WORSE in person vs online/Tinder?

Yeah, they put up their best pictures, edited, photoshopped, instagram/etc.

Only a few of them have looked better. Usually those are the ones with a better ego; they're not so narcissistic.

(12-18-2013 06:02 AM)blkgatsby Wrote:  How do you get SIFd so much? One thing you can do to weed out most SIFs is by collarbone. If you can't see the collarbone, or a defined jawline 99.9% of the time it's a SIF.

And is it just me but do most girls look WORSE in person vs online/Tinder?

I think it's because I let to many 6s into my pipeline.

I need to just tighten up my screening.

I've ditched girls after walking by and seeing them through the window to be fatter than there pics.

In NYC during the winter, a lot of girls wear these huge coats that can hide the chub, so it can be difficult.

As fas as being able to get it up for them goes? There have been times where I couldn't.

It's clear that I need to stop selling myself short and put more effort into hanging with more attractive girls while discontinuing things with lower quality ones.

(12-18-2013 12:23 PM)soup Wrote:  I've ditched girls after walking by and seeing them through the window to be fatter than there pics.

Cheeky Bugger!

Soup, lucky for you, you got fashion week coming up in Feb so you could snag a few models to make up for it!

I think you should bang whoever you want.

who cares what someone says

I did some heavy game work on the waitress at my coffee shop today. I had decided today was the day I was getting the number, and I had it in the bag but was going to wait until I was on my way out.

Before I leave, some girl comes and sits next to me. I was busy working and didn't pay any attention to her, but out of the corner of my eye I could see her continuously glancing over at me.

I go to the bathroom and on the way back recognize her. It was a craigslist chick I banged last month! Horrible lay, so I never called her back.

I figure I'll just ignore her.

Then I see the waitress put her jacket on and head my way. She chats for a minute and says she is headed home.

Of course I have to go for the number then. So with the craigslist girl right next to me, staring the whole time, the waitress, who was a good two points hotter than craigslist girl, writes her number down on my biz card and we make plans to go out in a few hours.

The complete look of disgust from the craigslist girl was the height of my day!

Can't tell if I'm being SIF'd. Tough to see from the pictures on OkCupid and the ones she sent me through text. Anybody know of a crafty way of asking about her weight?

(12-18-2013 08:24 PM)Blaze Frazier Wrote:  Can't tell if I'm being SIF'd. Tough to see from the pictures on OkCupid and the ones she sent me through text. Anybody know of a crafty way of asking about her weight?

A couple weeks ago I did this:

Suspecting SIF:
Me - What type of guys are normally into (I needed her to ask me this question back)
Her - blah blah blah
Her - What type of girls do you like
Me - No real preference as long as they care about fitness, I'm not into the bigger girls.
Her - Well I'm not exactly a twig - picture attached (fatty confirmed)
Her - Actually nevermind, that comment alone was just a turn off
Me - At least we are both equally turned off.