Post: #26

I'm in the same boat.

I can't drink just one or a few, it's all or nothing... Til I pass out, even if I'm just hanging out alone at home.

I'd like to give it up... Cuz I know I definitely can't control it.

Thing is, the majority of my relationships - friends and family there's a big reliance for alcohol being involved.. It's basically automatic

Also, often times I get blasted out of shear boredom.

I've fucked up endless amounts of times because of alcohol, I could spend days counting down the fuck ups.

I'm at the point where it's basically now or never. I'm 31 and need to get my shit straight.

Post: #27

I miss binge drinking only because the taste of a lot of beer and shots and cigarettes and the shitfaced feeling makes old memories come to life. It feels good but bad at the same time.

Post: #28

Its literally the most boring drug of the bunch.

You are better off..

Post: #29

(11-17-2013 03:48 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  Go do some heavy lifting and try to drink heavily that night. You'll get shitfaced off of a few drinks. I'm heavily buzzed after 2.

I did not even know that.

It all makes sense now.

I was wondering why I was feeling buzzed of just a few bottles last Friday night. Yet only hours before I had been lifting some heavy weights.

Post: #30

i don't miss it anymore at all, in fact i would go as far as saying giving up the partying is one of the best things i have ever done for myself.

Every now and then ( think twice a year) i might go out and have a few too many, and each time i do so i remember why i stopped doing it.

been sober about 3 years now

Post: #31

I can have a few drinks - no problem.

But if I do - eventually - within a month or two I will stumble into a massive binge.

So - for the long term - I need to give up alcohol altogether.

Post: #32

(12-01-2013 06:37 AM)cardguy Wrote:  I can have a few drinks - no problem.

But if I do - eventually - within a month or two I will stumble into a massive binge.

So - for the long term - I need to give up alcohol altogether.

I was the same way.

I could have a drink or two and go home or even take months off without issue. But even if I got used to pacing myself, eventually I'd go on a binge and get myself in trouble. It was just part of the pattern I had since I started in my early teens, so it was going to happen every time sooner or later, whether it be within weeks, months, or years.

And even the regular stream of mellower nights was just too detrimental to my health and energy levels. Wasn't getting shit done.

I've lost 4 inches around my waist since I quit. The reaction I'm getting from everyone I know in the difference in my appearance is pretty awesome - feels good. Even starting to see a six pack come to the surface. Going to be a while before it really shows itself but I'm not the only one who's noticed.

I'm peeling one more inch off the waist and then buying a new wardrobe.

At 32, it feels like 10 years taken off my life in a matter of months. I can't wait to see the results of the not drinking + my workout plan 6 months to a year from now...

And bitches keep emailing me on Facebook to ask me what "my secret" is.

I should sell them a pill.

It used to always irritate me when people would brush off my looking like shit with "oh you're just getting older." Even then I knew that was bullshit - that they were just enabling me to not take responsibility.

I'd argue with them. "32 isn't even close to fucking old. I just don't take care of myself."

But that type of rebuttal don't mean shit from a guy who isn't living his words. So now I get to show people I was right. That's what I like the most - demonstrating what I know is true through my actions instead of just flapping ideas. And inspiring people.

I don't pressure anyone I know in my real life with making the same choice as I did, but the results are speaking for themselves. One friend picked up the book and has also now quit. He works out like a madman now. And my mom, who has been an ugly drunk for ages, is about to buy it.

Even if she doesn't now, I imagine she will after her next downward spiral. I can't tell you how much it'll mean to me if she does actually kick the habit. I've been picking her up off the floor since I was about 10 years old and if she doesn't stop I have no doubt it will be the early death of her.

Just that alone would make it all worth it if I didn't already feel so good.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #33

Yeah - I am nearly 32. So - I guess we have had similar experiences.

Definitely going to give it a try this time. I tried once before - but my heart wasn't in it.

I eat out alot - and the cost of drinking spirits in restaurants is ridiculous. Deifnitely want to start saving some cash there.

Post: #34

(12-01-2013 08:20 AM)cardguy Wrote:  Yeah - I am nearly 32.

Old bastard.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #35

Thanks. Just bought the book! Am going to check this out

Post: #36

I haven't had a sip of alcohol in 2 years. I cant figure out how alcohol is an addictive substance, I have a much harder time trying to avoid candy. The only benefit I got from drinking in the past is I loosened up in social situations. I would often wake up the next morning beside a beautiful girl but the problem is I wouldn't remember it. Might as well have never happened.

Since then I've decided not to rely on drinking and to game completely sober. if really need be I will have 1 drink just to loosen me up a bit.

I had a girl I was seeing for about 2 weeks and then with a bored look on her face she said "who was the guy I met in the club for the first time? Can you go back to that?" I had to reluctantly tell her I couldn't because I don't remember what I did.

Post: #37

I drink almost every night, in way too large quantities for it not be having a negative effect on my health. I'm 27, so I've got time before I need to really rein it in. I still get up every morning, but having a mild hangover is just normal for me now!

BB, what is this book that you and your friend read?

Do you still go out and game girls at night, or is it all daygame now you've stopped drinking. How do you guys spend your evenings, I think I drink out of boredom. I spend my days at a computer, or with my nose in a book, so reading for pleasure (which is often suggested) is not something I want to be doing after a typical day.

Post: #38

Just got back from the restaurant. Had no alcohol. Haven't done that in years.

It's a start!

Post: #39

(11-17-2013 03:48 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  The quickest and easiest way to wean yourself off of alcohol is dedicate yourself to lifting or any intense exercise.

^^

Agreed. I used to drink, not especially heavily, although I did binge drink a bunch in my younger days and 20s. I'm an ex-smoker as well. When I started exercising, lifting, and training BJJ, I just had to stop. It's been ~7-8 years now and I have zero desire to get hammered.

I think a competitive sport is especially helpful. You're training with guys who eat right, barely drink, and live super healthy lifestyles, and they're kicking your ass. Some guys can maintain the party lifestyle and still do well in their sport, but most can't(I know I feel and train like shit after heavy drinking.)

Post: #40

Im exactly like BB and cardguy - 31 and had way to many costly, bad experiences with alcohol. The last 10 times I've drank I've blacked out.

I've been to rehab too.

I can go mellow for a month or two with 1-2 drinks then I binge.

I gotta quit altogether for good. otherwise I'll wind up poor & in jail.

Post: #41

Im at university at the moment so go out binge drinking about once or twice a week, as its kind of part of the social life here, Its also easier to run caveman game relatively drunk as well.

I think I could quite easily give up drinking as I only drink socially when going to a club, and if I didn't go out clubbing I probably wouldn't drink at all.

Post: #42

(12-01-2013 11:09 AM)Collide Wrote:  I haven't had a sip of alcohol in 2 years. I cant figure out how alcohol is an addictive substance, I have a much harder time trying to avoid candy.

people without addictive personalities and addictions can never understand what its like to be addicted to something, to crave it so much it seems you need it to survive. as an example, i cant get addicted to cigarettes for anything, and I've smoked a pack a day for a week and still did not get addicted. But after a one-night binge of alcohol or pills, i'll be craving it while detoxing the next 3 days and fool myself into thinking life sucks without it and I can't relax, and i just need a little bit, blah blah blah

Quote:I had a girl I was seeing for about 2 weeks and then with a bored look on her face she said "who was the guy I met in the club for the first time? Can you go back to that?" I had to reluctantly tell her I couldn't because I don't remember what I did.

ouch! that sucks! you're better off without a party bitch like that though.

Post: #43

I wonder if my skin will start to look better now that I am teetotal?

There was a story in the Daily Mail about how givig up alcohol for a month can improve your skin.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...urkey.html

Post: #44

The Lizard Of Oz has a great post on drinking here:

/thread-29245-...60359.html

And he is starting up a one-year 'stay on the wagon' thread here:

/thread-30625.html

Good work brother!

Post: #45

Bourbon in the UK is about twice as expensive as in America.

That is because we import it - and there is about 40% tax that you have to pay for it.

To give an example, recently bottles of Jack Daniels have been costing about $43 (although you can often find them on special offer for about $15 less than that). And it is alot more than that when you buy it in a bar or restaurant.

I only drink bourbon - so trying to save some cash is a big incentive for giving up the firewater.

So with that in mind - I want to pass along a quote I came across awhile ago. It has always stuck in my mind. I think it went like this:

"Drinking alcohol is like having a hole you pour money down."

Post: #46

I've been getting shit faced drunk at least once a week for about 12 years straight.

This would be hard for me.

Post: #47

In college in the U.S. everyone gets HAMMERED all the time, blacking out, throwing up, getting into fights, sleeping in random places waking up with no idea where they are or how they got there.

I used to do that but immediately after college it just never seemed appropriate to get so fucking hammered. I still drink but never like that, doing tons of shots, funnelling beers, keg stands, case races, shit like that is just stupid and theres no reason to drink until you lose your mind

Post: #48

(12-01-2013 02:08 PM)cardguy Wrote:  I wonder if my skin will start to look better now that I am teetotal?

There was a story in the Daily Mail about how givig up alcohol for a month can improve your skin.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...urkey.html

She looks a lot better because she has mild rosacea. Alcohol will cause much flushing for rosaceans, but this is just a small group of people.

Post: #49

(12-01-2013 12:59 PM)Teedub Wrote:  I drink almost every night, in way too large quantities for it not be having a negative effect on my health. I'm 27, so I've got time before I need to really rein it in. I still get up every morning, but having a mild hangover is just normal for me now!

BB, what is this book that you and your friend read?

http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Carrs-Easy-C...allen+carr

Quote:Do you still go out and game girls at night, or is it all daygame now you've stopped drinking. How do you guys spend your evenings, I think I drink out of boredom. I spend my days at a computer, or with my nose in a book, so reading for pleasure (which is often suggested) is not something I want to be doing after a typical day.

I still go out at night sometimes. Usually play pool or go catch some music. The women in the clubs aren't as attractive anymore though. I plan to actively start working on my daygame soon.

I work a lot right now, exercise, and spend a lot of time in books or writing. These things might sound boring to you, but keep in mind that they are not for me. You can spend your time on whatever.

And there are a ton of things you can do when not drinking that aren't boring. We just forgot how because we've depended on it for so long.

Swoop up a notepad and a pen and write out a list of shit you've always wanted to learn or do. Narrow it down and focus on a few that you've left to the wayside.

Add more later on when you get a sense of how much time you've gained - which you will find is A LOT.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #50

(12-01-2013 09:15 PM)Collide Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 02:08 PM)cardguy Wrote:  I wonder if my skin will start to look better now that I am teetotal?

There was a story in the Daily Mail about how givig up alcohol for a month can improve your skin.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...urkey.html

She looks a lot better because she has mild rosacea. Alcohol will cause much flushing for rosaceans, but this is just a small group of people.

This creature looks like it drank to much cheap wine mixed with a lot of sugar and processed foods on the side. Horrible example.