Post: #26

(11-28-2013 10:44 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  When a girl plays the feminine role, I play the masculine/gentleman roll. Walk to car, open doors, take coat, ect.

For sure, this. I start the example and only discontinue if she shows a lack of femininity.

Post: #27

(11-28-2013 05:23 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  This place is coming around a bit.

I recall a couple years or so ago a similar thread and it was beta if a guy did this shit.

I've always done this if she deserves it.

Feminine deserves it and they appreciate it.

What most guys do not understand is that "alpha" always depends on the context.

Some men could walk a girl to the car, and be totally beta. Others could walk a girl to the car and be 100% alpha.

Some men can wear fuzzy hats and be alpha, others can be jacked with 200 lbs of muscle mass and be beta (i've seen this firsthand myself).

Post: #28

here we messed around and found out red pill can actually be more chivalrous. how about that

Post: #29

(11-29-2013 01:41 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-28-2013 05:23 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  This place is coming around a bit.

I recall a couple years or so ago a similar thread and it was beta if a guy did this shit.

I've always done this if she deserves it.

Feminine deserves it and they appreciate it.

What most guys do not understand is that "alpha" always depends on the context.

Some men could walk a girl to the car, and be totally beta. Others could walk a girl to the car and be 100% alpha.

Some men can wear fuzzy hats and be alpha, others can be jacked with 200 lbs of muscle mass and be beta (i've seen this firsthand myself).

That is true.

That is why so much of the pua bullsh*t is just that, bullsh*t.

You are going to tell me that a Formula One driver that is buying champagne for two Russian Models and swooping them in Monaco is "beta" because he is paying for drinks?

Ah, no.

The pua rules are a bunch of beta crap.

People shouldn't worry about "rules" that some dork came up with. That is why I have to constantly shatter them.

Just be The G, and everything falls into place.

Post: #30

Agree with Sam and G.

Game is just doing whatever it takes to get the bang.

If you have to "act beta" but get the bang who cares.

Whatever it takes

The end goal is banging.

Post: #31

(11-29-2013 01:45 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 01:41 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-28-2013 05:23 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  This place is coming around a bit.

I recall a couple years or so ago a similar thread and it was beta if a guy did this shit.

I've always done this if she deserves it.

Feminine deserves it and they appreciate it.

What most guys do not understand is that "alpha" always depends on the context.

Some men could walk a girl to the car, and be totally beta. Others could walk a girl to the car and be 100% alpha.

Some men can wear fuzzy hats and be alpha, others can be jacked with 200 lbs of muscle mass and be beta (i've seen this firsthand myself).

That is true.

That is why so much of the pua bullsh*t is just that, bullsh*t.

You are going to tell me that a Formula One driver that is buying champagne for two Russian Models and swooping them in Monaco is "beta" because he is paying for drinks?

Ah, no.

The pua rules are a bunch of beta crap.

People shouldn't worry about "rules" that some dork came up with. That is why I have to constantly shatter them.

Just be The G, and everything falls into place.

Although I agree with you in spirit, I think you are a little too categorical about PUA. Not all of it is garbage. For example, the entire attraction>comfort>seduction stages are pretty much spot on.

Post: #32

1) In a big urban metropolis, I do it for safety purposes with a gal I may like sexually or not.

2) If I like her sexually, it gives me one last ditch effort to escalate as this has worked for me in the past.

In summary, I vote yay

Post: #33

I know you Azulsombra and you got swag.

That being said, don't overthink this.

Walk her to her car, pull her in close, kiss her, then smack or grab her ass as she's getting in.

I think the cold is getting to everyone and cats are overthinking shit.

Chicks will act more feminine when guys act masculine.

We can talk about feminists, but part of the problem is that us men have also slacked on being men.

If Men everywhere held Frame like a motherfucker, women would fall in line overnight.

Post: #34

(11-29-2013 02:10 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  Chicks will act more feminine when guys act masculine.

We can talk about feminists, but part of the problem is that us men have also slacked on being men.

If Men everywhere held Frame like a motherfucker, women would fall in line overnight.

Yes.

It always cracks me up when guys complain about girls being masculine yet the same guy is pissed about paying for sh*t.

Or complaining about how girls don't dress feminine but then the guy dressed like a chump.

It is not my style to toot my own horn (so to speak), but a girl wouldn't dare coming out with me in any thing else but high heels and a dress and skirt, because she knows my vibe and I will be rolling dress sharp as f*ck.

You reap what you sow, as the older G's used to say.

Post: #35

(11-28-2013 06:56 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(11-28-2013 06:54 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(11-28-2013 06:45 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(11-28-2013 06:44 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(11-28-2013 04:33 PM)redpillrage33 Wrote:  This times a million.

You really have to read the particular woman in question. If she is a total blue-pill radical/liberal you go grrrl feminist, she might take offence to the opening of doors, pulling out the chairs and even walking on the curbside of the sidewalk. It's happened to me.

Why would one even go out with this type of girl?

Or why would one even talk to this type of girl?

Hell, I wouldn't even know where one would even meet this type of girl?

Probably Zanesville or some comparable shithole. Luckily I've never met one.

If you did meet one, would you:

1. Throw shit on girl?

2. Drop her Iphone and "flick painfully" at her?

3. Wear pajamas a white t-shirt underneath and go to Vegas?

4. Dump a Tub of Extra Guac on her?

Please advise.

All of the above, although I'd likely get arrested for doing one or more of those things. I think the IPhone/Face flick is the most criminal of those acts. I don't know if this was just an oversight on your part, but I noticed that you haven't yet given a rep point to the throwing shit on girl guy. You may want to take care of that. I gave him a rep point a few days ago and was frankly embarrassed that it took me so long to do so.

Your right.

Just rectified the situation.

I would give him 50 rep points if I could.

Everyone should read this thread to get into a positive mindset before going out.

Post: #36

What is people and all this mumbo jumbo about alpha, beta, negs. That is way overthinking things. I feel like some guys literally try to go on autopilot with this stuff. Be masculine (it shouldn't require faking it), you don't need to consider whether walking a girl to her car is beta. Anything that you consider "beta" can be done in a way that it's not. Okay, besides throwing shit on a girl.

Post: #37

Yes. Especially if I have her coming to the hood to see me. It's not okay for everyone to just walk around freely at night. People see her with me, she's good.

Post: #38

(11-29-2013 10:06 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  What is people and all this mumbo jumbo about alpha, beta, negs. That is way overthinking things. I feel like some guys literally try to go on autopilot with this stuff. Be masculine (it shouldn't require faking it), you don't need to consider whether walking a girl to her car is beta. Anything that you consider "beta" can be done in a way that it's not. Okay, besides throwing shit on a girl.

What about "painful flicks"?

Post: #39

I walk her to the car. I wait to make sure she gets in her house when I drop her off too.

Post: #40

This is a strange question. If we are going home to bang and she brought her car I pretty much have to walk her.

Post: #41

(11-28-2013 10:44 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  When a girl plays the feminine role, I play the masculine/gentleman roll. Walk to car, open doors, take coat, ect.

Exactly. They love a gentleman. Hell, you could get some action in the car or even the way there. It's happened to me [bj in parked car].

Post: #42

(11-28-2013 10:44 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  When a girl plays the feminine role, I play the masculine/gentleman roll. Walk to car, open doors, take coat, ect.

Yeah. It reminds me of a line used in a lot of boxing/MMA gyms.

Some clueless newb during sparring will say, "How hard do you want to go?"

The old timer will laugh to himself and say, "As hard as you decide."

I let the women choose how I am going to treat them.

I'm not a dick just for no reason. If she wants to be cool, then she'll get the same from me.

If she wants to be a bitch, well let's just say that you can't out bitch this dick.

Post: #43

I always walk the girl to her car if we've driven separately. There are several reasons:

1. As noted by many already, if you want her to act like a woman around you, you need to act like a man around her.
2. I've escalated to kissing, groping, breast fondling standing next to her car more often than any other location other than the sofa. It's a great place to turn a platonic first date into a more physical interaction.
3. Even the most feminist of women appreciate this, at least the ones I've dated. If a woman yells at you for walking her to her car, just walk away from her, but more than likely she'll appreciate the effort and will express her thanks verbally or non-verbally (see #2 above).
4. Did I mention how many times I get to fondle tit after I've walked her to her car? Awhile back at the end of a first lunch date with a cute blonde, I walk her to car and we start kissing. Prior to that point, the date has been 100% platonic (I had a lot to learn back then). It's broad daylight, we're in a restaurant parking lot, and my hand goes under the shirt. I notice her bra opens in the front, so I go ahead and unsnap it, and bingo I'm cupping and playing with her breasts while we are kissing against her car in broad daylight.

Post: #44

Chivalry. Underrated.

That said, it is heavily reliant on intent. Are you doing it to win the favor of said girl, or are you doing it because that's just what you do? Makes all the difference in the world.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #45

(11-29-2013 02:17 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  It is not my style to toot my own horn

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #46

a lot of the time I will say, 'let me at least walk you to your car" then mack on her some more.

at which point, "you know I live close by, we can continue this pretty easily" or something along those lines.

If this is just after having sex, a lot of the time I will just want to sleep, especially if it is good sex.

Post: #47

This happened yesterday:

My regular MILF and I had dinner, as we were about to leave I walked her to her car. We talked and I tried to push for more time together but she turned her car on and I pulled the following:

Me: "is your car's time right?"
MILF: "yes, why?"
Me: "Shit, I need to pick up an order at Best Buy before 830pm and drank too many margaritas. Mind giving me a ride to the store?"
MILF: "Sure, you drank and I don't want you getting in trouble"

MILF drove me there, on the way back I escalated and got the bang. That would've never happened if I didn't walk her to her car.

Post: #48

(11-29-2013 01:47 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  Agree with Sam and G.

Game is just doing whatever it takes to get the bang.

If you have to "act beta" but get the bang who cares.

Whatever it takes

The end goal is banging.

I disagree with that.

Being beta is basically being weak and a fool. A guy who earns 1,500 dollars per month and spends 5000 dollars to bang a girl is simply a fool, that is a beta move.

Note that I usually don't follow that crap about being beta and alpha but some moves are just super pathetic. Like guys who try to impress by buying drinks for every target that they see in the club. A guy that recently meets a girl and go buy her clothes just to impress her and get laid (seen that shit not too long ago, I couldn't believe it and he didn't get laid). What is pathetic here is not the money spent, it's the beta internal belief that in order for him to get laid, he needs to spend money and literally supplicate for pussy.

Usually when you are not getting laid and you are desperate for pussy, you are prone to act real beta. It's foolish to sacrifice yourself like that just to get laid.

Now if you are on some charlie sheen money (10 million bucks per yr) and you tried to fuck this chick and she is being a long thing and you throw her 10k to bang her, then that's not beta haha.

Post: #49

(11-29-2013 01:47 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  Agree with Sam and G.

Game is just doing whatever it takes to get the bang.

If you have to "act beta" but get the bang who cares.

Whatever it takes

The end goal is banging.

Yep, sometimes you have to man up.


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Post: #50

No NSFW Ali?

LOL

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling