Post: #26

(11-19-2013 04:02 PM)NomadofEU Wrote:  Its impossible to ignore someone that loud and obnoxious..
And i totally share the feelings of encountering American women in Ukraine.

Man, do I agree with that! I haven't been in contact with other native speakers for a few years now except for calling home to my folks. I don't watch TV either, and when I watch movies it's usually always with a voiceover. So when I do happen to hear one of those skanks, it really grinds on my ears.

For the benefit of those who have not yet travelled beyond the English-speaking world, this is what Western women sound like after you've been away for a few years:

Post: #27

(11-19-2013 09:48 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(11-19-2013 06:55 PM)travolta Wrote:  I don't see the point of this...

I think guys on this forum overhype how bad American girls are. There are PLENTY of foreign girls who are extremely annoying, ugly and stupid. Way worse than any American girl you'd meet. You're putting foreign girls on too high of a pedestal.

It's actually that you're stuck in America, rummaging for scraps of pussy in the gutter, so it seems like we put foreign chicks on a pedestal.

Climb up out of the gutter, rinse yourself off, and you'll see for yourself that no one is pedestalizing foreign women. When American women are swimming in the sewers, everyone else seems to be far above them.

(11-19-2013 10:45 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  

(11-19-2013 06:55 PM)travolta Wrote:  I don't see the point of this...

I think guys on this forum overhype how bad American girls are. There are PLENTY of foreign girls who are extremely annoying, ugly and stupid. Way worse than any American girl you'd meet. You're putting foreign girls on too high of a pedestal.

Your profile suggests you've done a lot of traveling. I'm surprised you have this opinion.

I definitely DO like foreign girls more than American girls, but I've met PLENTY of foreign girls who are just as bad, if not worse than Americans. It just seems like people on here talk about foreign women like they can't do any wrong. I just returned from a 3 month trip in Europe and Asia, and I encountered more than enough ugly girls with bad attitudes. I was just in Taiwan- there are plenty of hot girls there, but many of them are prude and don't want to put out on the first night. I like the one night stand culture in America. I'm not looking for a wife anytime soon.. I just want to get laid. I don't really need a girl with domestic skills.

I find that when I walk about Manhattan, my boner is way bigger than anywhere else. Maybe I just feel this way because when I think of America I think of NYC. I'm going back to SEA in January and spending more time there, so maybe my opinion will change.

Post: #28

Fat Americans girls in London talking loud,was a everyday occurrence on the tube when I lived in London.

Post: #29

(11-19-2013 08:32 PM)renotime Wrote:  

(11-19-2013 07:54 PM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  I was in Kiev for 3 weeks total, and did not hear 1 other American voice during my time there.

Where is this cafe? And wtf was an american girl doing there?

She was probably looking for cronuts.

+1 rep point for brutal, deadpan sarcasm

Post: #30

(11-20-2013 02:17 AM)calwinston Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 12:06 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Calwinston welcome to the board.

She probably suspected you were American and thought she was back home.

I would love to hear your take on Kiev, since this is not your first visit I am sure you have positive feedback.

Thanks for the welcome.
I'll write something this week on Kiev in this thread since there are too many datasheets on Ukraine. I will also include second and third tier cities in Ukraine. It seems like many guys here have never experienced third tier cities in Ukraine due to time constraints.

These are the cities I'll write on here in this thread.

Kiev
Lvov
Donetsk
Uzhogorod
Dnipropetrovsk
Odessa
Kherson
Nikolayev
Sevestapol
Yalta

Since Kiev has been talked to death in the forum. I will only write about it briefly.
Here are some links to Kiev recently posted

Kiev Report
/thread-29300....light=kiev

Kiev 2013
/thread-20815....=kiev+2013

Kiev 2013
Post by coopers317 (a black guys point of view of Kiev) (go to post 163)
/thread-20815-...=kiev+2013

I share most of his views but will add more to it since I had long term stints in the city.

Currently I am in Kiev until 2 December. If anyone comes hit me up. I'll show you the other side of Ukraine.

Post: #31

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Currently I am in Kiev until 2 December. If anyone comes hit me up. I'll show you the other side of Ukraine.
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Cal - looking forward to your reports.

It's been 2 months since my last visit and I miss the girls... that's about it.

Post: #32

(11-19-2013 10:27 PM)calwinston Wrote:  [...]Girlfriend One- Became comfortable with me to the point she would take a crap with the bathroom door open, and expect me to have sex with her five minutes later. [...]

she "cleared the way" for you to enter thru the "backdoor" !!!

Post: #33

(11-21-2013 06:36 PM)GameTheory Wrote:  

(11-19-2013 10:27 PM)calwinston Wrote:  [...]Girlfriend One- Became comfortable with me to the point she would take a crap with the bathroom door open, and expect me to have sex with her five minutes later. [...]

she "cleared the way" for you to enter thru the "backdoor" !!!

Hahahahaha! She now lives in Brooklyn, New York. If you can find her she is all yours!!

Post: #34

(11-21-2013 09:12 AM)calwinston Wrote:  These are the cities I'll write on here in this thread.

Kiev
Lvov
Donetsk
Uzhogorod
Dnipropetrovsk
Odessa
Kherson
Nikolayev
Sevestapol
Yalta

Good stuff Cal. Definitely looking forward to your write-up on these cities. I received some intel on a couple of these cities, one of which I'm particularly interested in.

Coopers

Post: #35

(11-21-2013 06:36 PM)GameTheory Wrote:  she "cleared the way" for you to enter thru the "backdoor" !!!

Nothing like some fudge-colored lube.

Post: #36

(11-21-2013 09:12 AM)calwinston Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 02:17 AM)calwinston Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 12:06 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Calwinston welcome to the board.

She probably suspected you were American and thought she was back home.

I would love to hear your take on Kiev, since this is not your first visit I am sure you have positive feedback.

Thanks for the welcome.
I'll write something this week on Kiev in this thread since there are too many datasheets on Ukraine. I will also include second and third tier cities in Ukraine. It seems like many guys here have never experienced third tier cities in Ukraine due to time constraints.

These are the cities I'll write on here in this thread.

Kiev
Lvov
Donetsk
Uzhogorod
Dnipropetrovsk
Odessa
Kherson
Nikolayev
Sevestapol
Yalta

Since Kiev has been talked to death in the forum. I will only write about it briefly.
Here are some links to Kiev recently posted

Kiev Report
/thread-29300....light=kiev

Kiev 2013
/thread-20815....=kiev+2013

Kiev 2013
Post by coopers317 (a black guys point of view of Kiev) (go to post 163)
/thread-20815-...=kiev+2013

I share most of his views but will add more to it since I had long term stints in the city.

Currently I am in Kiev until 2 December. If anyone comes hit me up. I'll show you the other side of Ukraine.

Calwinston, I am looking forward to your review of some of these 2nd tier cities though I hope you are not planning on hitting Yalta & to a lesser extent Sevastopol in the winter, if so you will be miserable there as it'll be a ghost town. By the way I was there during the summer, highest concentration per capita (it's a small city of only around 100k though) of 8+ women of any place in Ukraine. If you get a chance to go to Yalta make sure you hit up Robinson's rooftop bar, probably best place in the whole city for a date.

Post: #37

(11-21-2013 10:32 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

(11-21-2013 09:12 AM)calwinston Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 02:17 AM)calwinston Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 12:06 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Calwinston welcome to the board.

She probably suspected you were American and thought she was back home.

I would love to hear your take on Kiev, since this is not your first visit I am sure you have positive feedback.

Thanks for the welcome.
I'll write something this week on Kiev in this thread since there are too many datasheets on Ukraine. I will also include second and third tier cities in Ukraine. It seems like many guys here have never experienced third tier cities in Ukraine due to time constraints.

These are the cities I'll write on here in this thread.

Kiev
Lvov
Donetsk
Uzhogorod
Dnipropetrovsk
Odessa
Kherson
Nikolayev
Sevestapol
Yalta

Since Kiev has been talked to death in the forum. I will only write about it briefly.
Here are some links to Kiev recently posted

Kiev Report
/thread-29300....light=kiev

Kiev 2013
/thread-20815....=kiev+2013

Kiev 2013
Post by coopers317 (a black guys point of view of Kiev) (go to post 163)
/thread-20815-...=kiev+2013

I share most of his views but will add more to it since I had long term stints in the city.

Currently I am in Kiev until 2 December. If anyone comes hit me up. I'll show you the other side of Ukraine.

Calwinston, I am looking forward to your review of some of these 2nd tier cities though I hope you are not planning on hitting Yalta & to a lesser extent Sevastopol in the winter, if so you will be miserable there as it'll be a ghost town. By the way I was there during the summer, highest concentration per capita (it's a small city of only around 100k though) of 8+ women of any place in Ukraine. If you get a chance to go to Yalta make sure you hit up Robinson's rooftop bar, probably best place in the whole city for a date.

These write ups are from the past couple of years. Going back 2 years. I'm not hitting up Crimea this time. Staying in Kiev the whole time.
Never did hit up Robinson's rooftop bar the last time I was there. Have to ask around the next I am there in the Spring maybe.

Post: #38

(11-22-2013 12:27 AM)calwinston Wrote:  

(11-21-2013 10:32 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

(11-21-2013 09:12 AM)calwinston Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 02:17 AM)calwinston Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 12:06 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Calwinston welcome to the board.

She probably suspected you were American and thought she was back home.

I would love to hear your take on Kiev, since this is not your first visit I am sure you have positive feedback.

Thanks for the welcome.
I'll write something this week on Kiev in this thread since there are too many datasheets on Ukraine. I will also include second and third tier cities in Ukraine. It seems like many guys here have never experienced third tier cities in Ukraine due to time constraints.

These are the cities I'll write on here in this thread.

Kiev
Lvov
Donetsk
Uzhogorod
Dnipropetrovsk
Odessa
Kherson
Nikolayev
Sevestapol
Yalta

Since Kiev has been talked to death in the forum. I will only write about it briefly.
Here are some links to Kiev recently posted

Kiev Report
/thread-29300....light=kiev

Kiev 2013
/thread-20815....=kiev+2013

Kiev 2013
Post by coopers317 (a black guys point of view of Kiev) (go to post 163)
/thread-20815-...=kiev+2013

I share most of his views but will add more to it since I had long term stints in the city.

Currently I am in Kiev until 2 December. If anyone comes hit me up. I'll show you the other side of Ukraine.

Calwinston, I am looking forward to your review of some of these 2nd tier cities though I hope you are not planning on hitting Yalta & to a lesser extent Sevastopol in the winter, if so you will be miserable there as it'll be a ghost town. By the way I was there during the summer, highest concentration per capita (it's a small city of only around 100k though) of 8+ women of any place in Ukraine. If you get a chance to go to Yalta make sure you hit up Robinson's rooftop bar, probably best place in the whole city for a date.

These write ups are from the past couple of years. Going back 2 years. I'm not hitting up Crimea this time. Staying in Kiev the whole time.
Never did hit up Robinson's rooftop bar the last time I was there. Have to ask around the next I am there in the Spring maybe.

Cal - are you still there.... what is the update ? How is the political situation effecting things if any in Kiev ?

Post: #39

I met some American females while I was in Simferopol, and out of masochism or whatever it may have been, I actually talked to them to find out what the hell they were doing there. They were Peace Corps volunteers, and they seemed to me to be rather bitter about North American men coming to Ukriane looking for "mail-order brides", as they put it. I can never figure out why American chicks come to FSU countries. They're incapable of competing.

Post: #40

rishboy77 looks like they are rioting...but the pic makes it seem...meh

Riot police break up pro-Europe protests in Kiev

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/...-kiev?lite

Quote:KIEV — Riot police in the Ukrainian capital Kiev used batons and stun grenades to disperse hundreds of pro-Europe protesters from the city's main Independence Square early on Saturday, witnesses said.
Police moved in on protesters who were still camped on the square following bigger demonstrations on Friday night against President Viktor Yanukovich's decision not to sign a landmark agreement on trade with the European Union.

Witnesses said police first fired stun grenades at the crowds and then moved in, using batons to disperse them, chasing some protesters into nearby streets.

At 5 am on Saturday, part of the square was sealed off by black-helmeted riot police. Nine years earlier, the square had been the scene of the Orange Revolution protests against misconduct and electoral fraud.
Tension had been building in Kiev since Friday, when Yanukovich walked away from signing the pact with EU leaders at a summit in Lithuania, going back on a pledge to work toward integrating his ex-Soviet republic into the European mainstream.

He said the cost of upgrading the economy to meet EU standards was too great and added that economic dialogue with Russia, Ukraine's former Soviet master, would be revived.

On Friday night, at least four people were beaten by police, including a Reuters cameraman and a Reuters photographer, who was bloodied by blows to the head by police.

The Interfax news agency reported that police had decided to clear Independence Square after "a number of incidents".
In the Friday night demonstrations, which involved about 10,000 protesters, heavyweight boxing-champion-turned-politician Vitaly Klitschko said Yanukovich had dashed the aspirations of Ukrainians to join mainstream Europe.

"Today they stole our dream, our dream of living in a normal country," said Klitschko, a contender for the 2015 presidential election. "The failure to sign the agreement of association is treason," he said.

Post: #41

Quote:Cal - are you still there.... what is the update ? How is the political situation effecting things if any in Kiev ?

Yeah I'm still here until tomorrow. Then flying off to Hong Kong. The situation here is dire around central Kiev. If you go outside of that area then everyday life is normal but with less people around. All the night venues are pratically empty due to everything going on. If anyone is planning on the next couple of weeks I would seriously reconsider my plans. I dont think anyone is in the mood to party or have a ONS when your country is on the brink of falling apart. Plus the protest has grown to 300,000.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/201...84539.html
After listening to both sides everything you hear is not all black and white as the outside media portrays. Ill talk about that tomorrow.
Ill give a better update tomorrow from Hong Kong and tell about my time here in Ukraine.

Post: #42

Protesters at President Quarters




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWNdeRtBmWA

Post: #43

Here is a documentary from last year on Ukraine politics

Post: #44

Most likely she was Peace Corp serving in Kiev. I can't think of any other reason why she would be there in EE.

Actually, shit, I know an American girl who served there come to think of it -- annoying like this one too.

Post: #45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fSH9wU32QU#t

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Post: #46

(12-01-2013 04:42 PM)calwinston Wrote:  Protesters at President Quarters




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWNdeRtBmWA

wow...it's starting to get a lot of press here in Russia. Seems to be way more of a deal than the protests in Russia were last year (those were confined to the center and were nowhere near the size of what's going on now in Ukraine).

safe travels calwinston awaiting your report.....from what I've read it's escalating, but I never know what to believe from the mainstream western press as they tend to overinflate everything (e.g. Russia last year) or to try to conform it to the their often-bogus or only half-true storyline (e.g. Egypt, or the so-called "Arab Spring").

In this case seems like it's actually getting pretty bad....at a minimum for gaming if places are shut down.

Post: #47

I left the US at 13. Family doesn't speak English (my mom often speaks English to me with German words and phrases thrown in) friends and acqaintances rarely ever talk in English, so other than movies and the occasional phonecall home, I haven't heard American women's voices in person on a regular basis in almost 13 years.

Frequenting a coffee shop at the university in Beijing you'd occasionally encounter these Chinese-American chics sitting at a table, talking in this heavily accented American college speech, the type you'll probably hear in the Valley or something...

Every other word was, like, "like" or, like, "y'know" and ohmygod it was like SO, like you couldn't, like. fucking. BELIEVE-it...like, EEEooh my gawd. When they wanted to get a point across or...ask for a favor...or I don't know what they would squeak and raise the pitch of their voice while exaggerating the drawl in their mouths, as though every sentence were a question...of course never forgetting to say "like" every five seconds. Of course, they weren't all like that, and some would talk normal, but the ones that were...

It got worse with this group of Korean-American chics once started trying to convert this (local) Chinese girl they'd apparently met previously to Christianity. Again, picture this valley/"Clueless" accent (raising the pitch of your voice to sound like a question even if it's not) in the following dialogue...

"So, like, tell us about your first, like...spirrritual experienth!"
[...]
The girl's English doesn't seem to be that fluent, so a few minutes into it, they start explaining things to her with cups and coke bottles.

"Okay, so-like, this is, like, Jesus?...and this is your soul, and this is hell...and in order to get to jeezuth [...]"

After a while I just wanted to stand up, grab them by the shoulders and shout "Will you please shut the fuck up already and just talk normal!!

There were a few isolated incidents were you'd see a couple American college students traveling in Germany and the girl would say "yeeah, we're gonna like...head out to this bar"...loud and annoying.

Granted, they didn't all talk like that...and there were some guys who would talk like that, too, just adding "dude" in between the "likes" and "y'knows" This one ABC chick from California started chatting me up on the subway in Beijing who seemed pretty sweet and didn't talk like that. Despite what I wrote I usually don't have any opinion of American women either way, probably because I don't see them that often. I strongly suspect guys in Western countries can get turned off particularly to whichever Western women they spent their adolescence around. With me, this mainly applies to Southern German women. Though not as annoying as what I stated above, nothing turns me off more than hearing a girl talking in "Fränkisch" or Bavarian.

I've noticed some Japanese girls can sound just as bad, especially when they're talking in Kansai-ben.

Post: #48

Something a little off topic of everything that has been going on.
Here is a YouTube channel that was recommended to me.
http://www.youtube.com/user/electromotor...ture=watch

It lets you get into the mindset of your typical Ukrainian girl.
Even though the channel is in Russian you can see how their mannerisms are and how the act around people.
They also give gaming advice for guys how to pickup girls, first date ideas, etc. If you are learning Russian or speak Russian its a great channel.

Post: #49

(12-02-2013 01:50 AM)Gallego2006 Wrote:  Most likely she was Peace Corp serving in Kiev. I can't think of any other reason why she would be there in EE.

Actually, shit, I know an American girl who served there come to think of it -- annoying like this one too.

No she wasn't from the Peace Corp. You can spot them from a mile away.
She is doing marketing for a media company here in Kiev.

Post: #50