Post: #51

(10-17-2013 03:38 PM)Samseau Wrote:  The problem with blue collar workers is that they think their money will stay hot forever. This isn't true for 95% of blue collar workers.

That's a pretty big blanket statement. I can see you coming to that conclusion based off of auto and housing industry, but 95% seems a bit much.

Are chefs and engineers considered blue collar? Both of those industries have crazy demand regardless of economic conditions.

Post: #52

(10-17-2013 03:54 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 03:38 PM)Samseau Wrote:  The problem with blue collar workers is that they think their money will stay hot forever. This isn't true for 95% of blue collar workers.

That's a pretty big blanket statement. I can see you coming to that conclusion based off of auto and housing industry, but 95% seems a bit much.

Are chefs and engineers considered blue collar? Both of those industries have crazy demand regardless of economic conditions.

Eh. There's clowns everywhere. My three employees are a self contained circus but those same clowns exist in IT or wherever.

Most people let personal issues consume them and are worth a shit.

Post: #53

I grew up blue collar.

My dad begged me to stay away from the family business and even hated on me to other family members so they'd stop calling me to work.

My dad would say, "Look at your teachers. I had the same teachers you had, and I look older than they do! Teachers don't have any stress. They don't age."

I didn't understand it but do now.

Blue collar work fucks your body up.

Get a cushy white collar job where you can cruise the web all day, do online date, and text.

Or, even better, a government job with union protections.

Post: #54

Nothing wrong with a good Trade. Get to the point you have people working for you and your set just like the cushy office guy.

Post: #55

(10-17-2013 06:37 PM)kosko Wrote:  Nothing wrong with a good Trade. Get to the point you have people working for you and your set just like the cushy office guy.

It's no different anywhere else. Get in, get the skills, get the connections, and parlay that shit in your favor.


I don't get the hate on blue collar work. It built this country.

Post: #56

(10-17-2013 06:32 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  I grew up blue collar.

My dad begged me to stay away from the family business and even hated on me to other family members so they'd stop calling me to work.

My dad would say, "Look at your teachers. I had the same teachers you had, and I look older than they do! Teachers don't have any stress. They don't age."

I didn't understand it but do now.

Blue collar work fucks your body up.

Get a cushy white collar job where you can cruise the web all day, do online date, and text.

Or, even better, a government job with union protections.

Sounds good but no Mike that's not how it works.

You work and grow and advance in your trade, when you get older you train other people to do the labor part and spend your time doing estimates or managing the office. You build relationships with your customers and vendors and keep the ball rolling..Not slinging concrete blocks for 50 years. That's retarded.

Post: #57

^ I know how it works. My entire family is blue collar.

Look at how blue collar people age v. white collar people.

White collar work is soul sucking but does not fuck up the body like blue collar work.

Post: #58

(10-17-2013 03:54 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 03:38 PM)Samseau Wrote:  The problem with blue collar workers is that they think their money will stay hot forever. This isn't true for 95% of blue collar workers.

That's a pretty big blanket statement. I can see you coming to that conclusion based off of auto and housing industry, but 95% seems a bit much.

Are chefs and engineers considered blue collar? Both of those industries have crazy demand regardless of economic conditions.

But that's just not true. Economic downturns, outsourcing, unions killing off independent contractors... just too many factors to name that kill blue-collar workers. Outsourcing alone has killed off over half of USA's industrial base.

Every single old blue-collar worker I've talked to has a horror story of some kind to share. It can't be a coincidence.

Post: #59

(10-17-2013 07:14 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  ^ I know how it works. My entire family is blue collar.

Look at how blue collar people age v. white collar people.

White collar work is soul sucking but does not fuck up the body like blue collar work.

I disagree. Keeping busy in old age keeps you sharp and strong if you have the option to choose your jobs.

The problem is those old school guys are stubborn with diet. The guys that work with me that look older are the ones that drink 4 liters of Dew or Sweet tea instead of water a day and eat fast food.. Believe it at my work I'll buy lunch every day and whatever they want. What do they want? The worst food for the heat and the job they do.. I offer steaks or ribs etc.. Nope .. Two baconators large fries and a gallon of that cheap fruit punch from the haji mart..

Combine some skillz, diet, moderate hard work could be good for the long haul..

Post: #60

It is...

Id rather be old and lookin grizzly as hell, but still strong enough to fuck someone up.

Post: #61

I'm 3rd generation construction. My grandfather owned a small construction business, my dad owned a construction business and I worked construction for years.

The shit tears your body up. I have arthritis in my hands and I'm 29yo. However, I think it's good for a cat to spend at least a summer doing construction, because it seperate the men from the boys. I remember one particular job, we were building a million gallon water tank and got two of my buddies on the job. These guys were ex football players, bigger and 'stronger' in the gym then me.

1 lasted a fucking day and the other 3 days. Pussies.

Now my dad does have the office job being a senior superintendent and doesn't have to do manuel labor but his body is fucked up. He had a beam fall on his head, fucked up his knees, his throat everything.

He always pushed me to do white collar work because of that. Ironically, he probably doesn't consider pouring bottles of vodka into club sluts throats work. ; )

Post: #62

(10-17-2013 07:24 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 07:14 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  ^ I know how it works. My entire family is blue collar.

Look at how blue collar people age v. white collar people.

White collar work is soul sucking but does not fuck up the body like blue collar work.

I disagree. Keeping busy in old age keeps you sharp and strong if you have the option to choose your jobs.

Lot of old blue collar guys in my family. Got some family members over 80 that are still outside doing yard work and shit because they like it.

There is an old Menonite farmer lady pushing 90+ near my pareuynts that plows her own garden and cuts her own grass.

I am a white collar guy but the most successful guys I know (self made millionaires) were blue collar turned boss / supervisor / owner of several businesses.

Construction is one of the last fields in USA where a man can still be a man. Human resources is my slave master.

Post: #63

Quote:. I have arthritis in my hands and I'm 29yo.

Please dude. Your imaginary arthritis in your hands is not from your part time on and off job helping your dad.

Post: #64

Says the masturbating mechanic.

First couple of years worked for my dad, then went and independently got hired for Natgun and worked full time son.

Check yourself.

Post: #65

(10-16-2013 05:21 PM)soup Wrote:  Wow, a whole list of things that a lot of guys on here already do!

Name: Soup

Status: Knows it all

Post: #66

(10-17-2013 08:49 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  Says the masturbating mechanic.

First couple of years worked for my dad, then went and independently got hired for Natgun and worked full time son.

Check yourself.

My bad. It's obvious you've been pushed over the limits of what a normal man is capable of. You should be looking into disability and a possible lawsuit.

Post: #67

Every guy should do some blue collar work in their life for at least a month. Would probably get rid of all the Beta problems that guys on here are stuck with.

Post: #68

(10-17-2013 09:12 PM)houston Wrote:  Every guy should do some blue collar work in their life for at least a month. Would probably get rid of all the Beta problems that guys on here are stuck with.

Hahaha,

Every blue collar worker I've met, EVERY SINGLE ONE (this cannot be a coincidence), is divorced, often with kids somewhere in the picture.

Although blue collar guys are manly and get pussy, their lack of deeper thinking and investigation gets them fucked over in the long run. They marry a chick unthinkingly and it's the beginning of the end for them.

Also: Just so guys don't think I'm bullshitting here - I've worked construction before, and I worked at RGIS which is technically blue collar but is pussy work compared to actual construction.

Post: #69

Im talking about being so insecure with themselves.

Post: #70

(10-17-2013 09:23 PM)houston Wrote:  Im talking about being so insecure with themselves.

That's true. Blue collar workers definitely have more game than white collar. I was hang out with some lawyers who were making 160K+ in NYC and all these guys did was bitch about their lack of pussy.

I'm pretty sure white collar work increases estrogen levels.

Post: #71

(10-17-2013 09:12 PM)houston Wrote:  Every guy should do some blue collar work in their life for at least a month. Would probably get rid of all the Beta problems that guys on here are stuck with.

Unfortunately I think it goes deeper than that. If that were the case there wouldn't be any insecure bodybuilders/powerlifters.

Post: #72

(10-17-2013 09:27 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 09:23 PM)houston Wrote:  Im talking about being so insecure with themselves.

That's true. Blue collar workers definitely have more game than white collar. I was hang out with some lawyers who were making 160K+ in NYC and all these guys did was bitch about their lack of pussy.

I'm pretty sure white collar work increases estrogen levels.

Samseau there is probably something to that.
I think what white collar work tricks you into is comfort. Blue collar work tricks you into thinking you are harder than a stiff in a suit cause you just busted knuckles for 12 hours straight. At the end of the day we all got to get in where we fit in.

Beyond that, Man is not just a one dimensional office-worker, or a one-dimensional construction worker. We have the capacity to develop multiple skills on multiple fronts. Why limit it to one field? You don't have to be a generalist, but no need to limit yourself to the definition of what you do by day, for pay.

I've seen guys who are 'shredded' get dusted on the farm by an old man. I've also seen basic tradesmen come into the office and call into question the basic methodologies and principles used in calculating material business transactions with only a 'laymens' understanding.

I guess at the end of the day, my question is, why be a book that can be judged by it's cover?

Post: #73

(10-17-2013 09:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 09:12 PM)houston Wrote:  Every guy should do some blue collar work in their life for at least a month. Would probably get rid of all the Beta problems that guys on here are stuck with.

Hahaha,

Every blue collar worker I've met, EVERY SINGLE ONE (this cannot be a coincidence), is divorced, often with kids somewhere in the picture.

Although blue collar guys are manly and get pussy, their lack of deeper thinking and investigation gets them fucked over in the long run. They marry a chick unthinkingly and it's the beginning of the end for them.

Also: Just so guys don't think I'm bullshitting here - I've worked construction before, and I worked at RGIS which is technically blue collar but is pussy work compared to actual construction.

Do you really think the reason that their lives are fucked up is because they got into blue collar work? I'd like to think that some of us are fucked up because of our socio-economic background and upbringing and not our career choices.

There's a lot of outdated thinking on this thread, things have changed guys and all over North America (not only Alberta), people are beginning to see that the trades isn't just banging up your body for life, although that's an option if you want it. I tell the guys on my oil sands threads that if you get into a trade, it doesn't mean that you have to be the tools for life, you can segue into management and have an office job, if that's what you want.

A 22 year old journeyman skilled tradesman has more knowledge about how his company works than a recent business grad , fresh out of school. That same tradesman doesn't have massive student loan debts to pay off and can afford a house or settle down and raise a family, if that's what he wants. How long will it take a 22 year old kid who's $50-100K in debt, making 35K/year at the office to even consider buying a house or raising a family?

There's no reason why any healthy young man can't spend 5 or even 10 years working in a skilled trade, gain skills and experience and easily move onto to something else, while maintaining a healthy body and mind. I will agree that your average tradesman lives pretty hard, myself including, which is something I"m working on. There's a lot of office workers and people on here who also spend a lot of time boozing hard, chasing women in clubs all night and getting high.

Anyway, I have to go to bed, early wake up tomorrow. I just started a 3 week job where I'll net about 4 Gs each week that will pay for my upcoming 3 month stint in Colombia. Have fun at the office boys!

Post: #74

(10-16-2013 02:50 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  I think there might be something to do with wearing a black t-shirt.

I have a single black v-neck that I have in a rotation of a variety of coloured v-necks that all generally fit the same. I'll just grab one and put on some jeans with it and head to the club.

I've only worn it twice, because I remember the nights I wore a black v-neck exactly. One of them was one where I had 5-6 different makeouts (the most I've ever gotten in a night) and got close to pulling a girl to a bathroom. The other I had more success than usual with my approaches, gave my number away as opposed to taking them and had 3 girls text me (one of which I went out with later) and had another girl tell me I smelled like sex appeal.

Of course this could just be coincidence and there might be nothing to do with the colour of the shirt I wore being black. But maybe it's another factor, such as how black colour goes well with a certain skin tone (I'm moderately tanned).

Science:

Red makes people more attractive, both guys and girls, wearing red will make the opposite sex more attracted to you, google it if you doubt.

What I think:

Guys wearing black Ts have a socially taught 'bad boy' image or at least a very good connotation in many forms (strong confident guy), plus black makes your body look better imo.


Go the black t shirts!

Post: #75

(10-17-2013 11:33 PM)scotian Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 09:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(10-17-2013 09:12 PM)houston Wrote:  Every guy should do some blue collar work in their life for at least a month. Would probably get rid of all the Beta problems that guys on here are stuck with.

Hahaha,

Every blue collar worker I've met, EVERY SINGLE ONE (this cannot be a coincidence), is divorced, often with kids somewhere in the picture.

Although blue collar guys are manly and get pussy, their lack of deeper thinking and investigation gets them fucked over in the long run. They marry a chick unthinkingly and it's the beginning of the end for them.

Also: Just so guys don't think I'm bullshitting here - I've worked construction before, and I worked at RGIS which is technically blue collar but is pussy work compared to actual construction.

Do you really think the reason that their lives are fucked up is because they got into blue collar work? I'd like to think that some of us are fucked up because of our socio-economic background and upbringing and not our career choices.

For sure, a lot of it has to do with poor upbringing and lack of education. Most blue collar types do not go to college and are never exposed to deep critical thinking nor are they exposed to the slutty environment upon which most college girls get corrupted by. These blue collar types then meet a girl and are unaware of:

1. How fucked up these chicks really are.

2. How the laws in this country work.

Although most college guys are brainwashed, if you notice most of the top posters on this board are college educated for a reason. We were exposed to Socrates, who taught to question things, and that's pretty much the reason why we end up showing the light to others.

I'm not saying everyone who reads Socrates will be red-pill, not by a long shot. But the guys who are exposed to critical thinking will still be more likely to avoid being fleeced by the system.

Blue-collar guys, despite their natural game, still get blindsided by things they aren't aware of. Also, blue-collar guys tend to have an individualist invincibility mindset ("I do what a want, when I want, bitches"), which is great for getting laid, but not so great for dealing with the laws and customs of America.