Post: #51

Ok, you guys helped out a lot, thank you a lot. This is going to be my last question. I asker her out yesterday (see attach) She said she couldn't because she was sick/tired/been to classes all day ON facebook and then she asked what I was doing. I answered her. She saw my msg at 22:00 but didn't reply.

I saw her today and she was really sick and said she was going home. What do you guys recommend me doing? She is not really talkactive on facebook and not responding to my statements. Do you recommend me just waiting couple of days and ask her out again? Or should I stop pursuing her? Or wait until she contacts me?

Post: #52

(10-08-2013 09:09 AM)Videl Wrote:  Ok, you guys helped out a lot, thank you a lot. This is going to be my last question. I asker her out yesterday (see attach) She said she couldn't because she was sick/tired/been to classes all day ON facebook and then she asked what I was doing. I answered her. She saw my msg at 22:00 but didn't reply.

I saw her today and she was really sick and said she was going home. What do you guys recommend me doing? She is not really talkactive on facebook and not responding to my statements. Do you recommend me just waiting couple of days and ask her out again? Or should I stop pursuing her? Or wait until she contacts me?

I recommend you go talk to and ask other girls out. Don't over-analyze this one girl. Approach other girls just like you did this one, and lo and behold, some won't be sick and unavailable to go out.

It will also put you in a better head-space in general once you've made this a routine part of your life.

Post: #53

(10-08-2013 09:50 AM)Therapsid Wrote:  

(10-08-2013 09:09 AM)Videl Wrote:  Ok, you guys helped out a lot, thank you a lot. This is going to be my last question. I asker her out yesterday (see attach) She said she couldn't because she was sick/tired/been to classes all day ON facebook and then she asked what I was doing. I answered her. She saw my msg at 22:00 but didn't reply.

I saw her today and she was really sick and said she was going home. What do you guys recommend me doing? She is not really talkactive on facebook and not responding to my statements. Do you recommend me just waiting couple of days and ask her out again? Or should I stop pursuing her? Or wait until she contacts me?

I recommend you go talk to and ask other girls out. Don't over-analyze this one girl. Approach other girls just like you did this one, and lo and behold, some won't be sick and unavailable to go out.

It will also put you in a better head-space in general once you've made this a routine part of your life.

I'm already talking to other girls but I'm really interested in this Belarussian girl. Believe me, you can't find another girl looking like this easily.

Post: #54

(10-08-2013 11:10 AM)Videl Wrote:  

(10-08-2013 09:50 AM)Therapsid Wrote:  

(10-08-2013 09:09 AM)Videl Wrote:  Ok, you guys helped out a lot, thank you a lot. This is going to be my last question. I asker her out yesterday (see attach) She said she couldn't because she was sick/tired/been to classes all day ON facebook and then she asked what I was doing. I answered her. She saw my msg at 22:00 but didn't reply.

I saw her today and she was really sick and said she was going home. What do you guys recommend me doing? She is not really talkactive on facebook and not responding to my statements. Do you recommend me just waiting couple of days and ask her out again? Or should I stop pursuing her? Or wait until she contacts me?

I recommend you go talk to and ask other girls out. Don't over-analyze this one girl. Approach other girls just like you did this one, and lo and behold, some won't be sick and unavailable to go out.

It will also put you in a better head-space in general once you've made this a routine part of your life.

I'm already talking to other girls but I'm really interested in this Belarussian girl. Believe me, you can't find another girl looking like this easily.

Not to be harsh, but it sounds like you're pedestalizing this one girl.

If you have sex with some of those other girls, it'll help you with this Belarussian beauty and with any other higher quality girls you come across.

Post: #55

(10-08-2013 11:14 AM)Therapsid Wrote:  

(10-08-2013 11:10 AM)Videl Wrote:  

(10-08-2013 09:50 AM)Therapsid Wrote:  

(10-08-2013 09:09 AM)Videl Wrote:  Ok, you guys helped out a lot, thank you a lot. This is going to be my last question. I asker her out yesterday (see attach) She said she couldn't because she was sick/tired/been to classes all day ON facebook and then she asked what I was doing. I answered her. She saw my msg at 22:00 but didn't reply.

I saw her today and she was really sick and said she was going home. What do you guys recommend me doing? She is not really talkactive on facebook and not responding to my statements. Do you recommend me just waiting couple of days and ask her out again? Or should I stop pursuing her? Or wait until she contacts me?

I recommend you go talk to and ask other girls out. Don't over-analyze this one girl. Approach other girls just like you did this one, and lo and behold, some won't be sick and unavailable to go out.

It will also put you in a better head-space in general once you've made this a routine part of your life.

I'm already talking to other girls but I'm really interested in this Belarussian girl. Believe me, you can't find another girl looking like this easily.

Not to be harsh, but it sounds like you're pedestalizing this one girl.

If you have sex with some of those other girls, it'll help you with this Belarussian beauty and with any other higher quality girls you come across.

You are probably right. She is a shot at life but probably because of my beta-ness I will f it up sooner or later with her.

She seemed interested at first, now I asked her out and she couldn't for reasons I explained earlier. The only thing I want to know, should I wait for her to msg me back (since she ignored my last msg as you can see in screenshot) or should I try at later stage and ask her out for second time?

I'm kind of depressed at the moment but it has probably nothing to do with her but with failure with women in general and me being to passive.

Post: #56

Try with restart text after a few days.
http://www.rooshv.com/the-restart-text

Post: #57

(10-08-2013 12:48 PM)Dkby Wrote:  Try with restart text after a few days.
http://www.rooshv.com/the-restart-text

hey, that is good, thanks : )

Either way, I'm so depressed about this situation. I think I fell in love with her. It is hard to just continue without trying more.

Post: #58

(10-08-2013 10:26 PM)Videl Wrote:  

(10-08-2013 12:48 PM)Dkby Wrote:  Try with restart text after a few days.
http://www.rooshv.com/the-restart-text

hey, that is good, thanks : )

Either way, I'm so depressed about this situation. I think I fell in love with her. It is hard to just continue without trying more.

Why be depressed? Life is not about letting mistakes or failures let you down, it's about using those failures and mistakes to catapult you into successes you've never before had.

Look at this objectively. Had you ever had a "9" into you before? No? That's awesome, you hit a target you previously probably didn't even think you could hit. Now that you've had one "9" into you there's no reason you can't have another. Go out there, improve yourself, be with other girls.

You didn't fall in love, you let yourself get WAY too emotionally negative. You can't fall in love with something that didn't exist (the relationship/experience you'd really need to have in order to love someone didn't happen).

Post: #59

(10-09-2013 12:47 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(10-08-2013 10:26 PM)Videl Wrote:  

(10-08-2013 12:48 PM)Dkby Wrote:  Try with restart text after a few days.
http://www.rooshv.com/the-restart-text

hey, that is good, thanks : )

Either way, I'm so depressed about this situation. I think I fell in love with her. It is hard to just continue without trying more.

Why be depressed? Life is not about letting mistakes or failures let you down, it's about using those failures and mistakes to catapult you into successes you've never before had.

Look at this objectively. Had you ever had a "9" into you before? No? That's awesome, you hit a target you previously probably didn't even think you could hit. Now that you've had one "9" into you there's no reason you can't have another. Go out there, improve yourself, be with other girls.

You didn't fall in love, you let yourself get WAY too emotionally negative. You can't fall in love with something that didn't exist (the relationship/experience you'd really need to have in order to love someone didn't happen).

I know this is going to sound femine or shit but I had a really good connection with her. I thought we matched perfectly emotionally and psychologically. A lot of jokes and synchronicity in almost everything. I thought I finally made it. I mean it is still not too late. She told me she was sick and I saw her yesterday and she really was but I think she stepped back a notch after I asked her out (this is only a feeling). I mean I expected some iniative or ethiousiasm from her part but it was kind of lacking. Maybe she will change after she gets better but I will only try second time to ask her out and then give up on her. I'm trully inexperienced with girls so I think I need to go out and fuck some relatively easy bitches. I'm thinking about finding some chicks outside of my uni so they can't backtrack me or mess up my chances with the Belarussian girl.

Post: #60

(10-09-2013 01:02 PM)Videl Wrote:  I'm thinking about finding some chicks outside of my uni so they can't backtrack me or mess up my chances with the Belarussian girl.

Post: #61

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I'm thinking about finding some chicks outside of my uni so they can't backtrack me or mess up my chances with the Belarussian girl.
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Did you even for one second think that if you started dating girls within your university that she might find out and become a little jealous and begin wanting you? Jealousy is a strong emotion my friend so use it to your advantage.

Next time she asks you what you are doing, say you have a thing and you can't talk right now. Get her hamster spinning.

Post: #62

from all this back and forth its more than obvious she likes you. now its on you to close the deal.

Post: #63

(10-09-2013 01:02 PM)Videl Wrote:  I know this is going to sound femine or shit but I had a really good connection with her. I thought we matched perfectly emotionally and psychologically. A lot of jokes and synchronicity in almost everything. I thought I finally made it. I mean it is still not too late.

No, it's probably not too late even after these continued mistakes. Let it cool, let her get better, then hit her up again or see her on campus and WHILE you are having that great conversation go on an instadate with her and escalate some physicality, then whenever you catch her staring deep into your eyes, kiss her!

But for god's sake, stop doing the opposite of what we're telling you. What you've been told by society and women is lies. Women don't know what they want, what you logically think makes sense is the OPPOSITE of what makes sense for them, because they are not logical.

The statement you say above (that I put in BOLD) is EXCRUCIATING pedestalization. Please stop it. If what you said was true you'd be married to her.

Post: #64

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Did you even for one second think that if you started dating girls within your university that she might find out and become a little jealous and begin wanting you? Jealousy is a strong emotion my friend so use it to your advantage.

Next time she asks you what you are doing, say you have a thing and you can't talk right now. Get her hamster spinning.
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I msged the Belarussian yesterday and she saw my msg at 22:00. I asked if she got better but she still has to respond. Probably she is ignoring me. Probably she wants me to tone it down. Still haven't given up on her but I'm looking forward. Any way, I'm doing much better than two days ago when I was depressed. If she likes me, she likes me, if not I have other option too but how much I tough up I can't hide that I'm disappointed. I built an emotional card house in my mind and it collapsed. I learned from it.

By the way, I started chatting to Blond Spanish girl (7.5) on facebook and she asked me if she and her friends can join my friend group next week going to road trip for one week. I'm glad I took a shot at the Belarusian girl because I really had to push my self to gather the courage. Probably this will help me with talking to this Spanish girl and other girls. This was a big step for me since I'm introvert.

But a little reflection. I do think I made mistake asking out the Belarussian girl. I should have talked to her more before asking her out. I only talked to her for once for one hour. I didn't talk to her on facebook but immediately asked her out. She probably got scared off or something.

Post: #65

(10-09-2013 02:41 PM)puckman Wrote:  from all this back and forth its more than obvious she likes you. now its on you to close the deal.

I don't know anymore. I'm so confused. She probably just wanted to flirt and got scared off when I asked her out (or she is really that sick). It is only a theory. I mean if she was as much crazy about me than me about her she wouldn't wait so long to answer my facebook messages. I think I'm too emotionally invested in her. I need to gain more exp if I want to pull off a girl like her.

Post: #66

(10-09-2013 08:59 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  No, it's probably not too late even after these continued mistakes. Let it cool, let her get better, then hit her up again or see her on campus and WHILE you are having that great conversation go on an instadate with her and escalate some physicality, then whenever you catch her staring deep into your eyes, kiss her!

I talked to her on university last tuesday for the second time. She wasn't flirty as the first time. How do I make sure I have great conversation with her next time? I think first time I saw her. I didn't care I just talked to her but second time I saw her I wanted to kind of impress her so I think I was little less fun.

Quote:But for god's sake, stop doing the opposite of what we're telling you. What you've been told by society and women is lies. Women don't know what they want, what you logically think makes sense is the OPPOSITE of what makes sense for them, because they are not logical.

The statement you say above (that I put in BOLD) is EXCRUCIATING pedestalization. Please stop it. If what you said was true you'd be married to her.

I know I pedestalized her but it was not my choice. It was just the emotions I had for her but I learned from the disappointment. And what do you mean I did the opposite of what you guys told me? I asked her out exactly the way you guys told me, but she couldn't for reasons I explained. I don't have a choice other than moving on anyway.

Post: #67

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I msged the Belarussian yesterday and she saw my msg at 22:00. I asked if she got better but she still has to respond. Probably she is ignoring me. Probably she wants me to tone it down.

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Give it a couple weeks before you try re-opening. If decides to open you, Ignore, Ignore, Ignore!

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By the way, I started chatting to Blond Spanish girl (7.5) on facebook and she asked me if she and her friends can join my friend group next week going to road trip for one week. I'm glad I took a shot at the Belarusian girl because I really had to push my self to gather the courage. Probably this will help me with talking to this Spanish girl and other girls. This was a big step for me since I'm introvert.

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Nice job with the Spanish girl. Keep approaching other girls as well, and quit thinking of the Belarussian girl.

Post: #68

Videl,

These post by you are painful to read, but a lot of us have been there one time or the other. I'm 31, so I've had enough time to be jaded, and get into a lot of shit that has changed me. You'll get there someday..hopefully. People are right though, you put her pussy on a pedestal. Bad move. The best thing you can do for your game is work on yourself, improving yourself and never give bitches a second thought. Dating a girl goes the same...Always check yourself and imagine she decided not to date you, or you found out she fucked someone else. If that thought "fucks up your world" then you're not playing the game right.

You're over analyzing your entire interaction with her, and subsequent interactions. It's going to come across as bad game/unnatural. I don't know if you can recover the chick from Belarus or not. You've made a lot of player rookie mistakes. You can follow the advice for restarting text I suppose. I'd really lay off of it for a while. If you do start it back up, always have a second option, and/or let her know you're going out with some friends for a drink and if she wants to meet up. If she doesn't respond or declines then at least you're out with another girl, or your guy friends to make the most of the night and look for new girls.

Stop trying to have facebook conversations. Stop having text conversations. Keep that shit simple and to the point. Write half as much to them as they do you, and minimize any form of excitement. Only reciprocate excitement when they give you positive vibes. For example if they're all, "Can't wait to go out!! " Then you should be "Looking forward to seeing you...gonna be fun "

Girls love the word "fun." When throwing out invites and for other situations, I generally add the word "fun" They can't resist. That's all most of these shallow girls are looking for...Attractive ones no doubt get a lot of texts, and at some point decide who they will meet up with/fuck. They're going to go for the guy who is offering the most fun in general.

Another point to texting. Given they get a lot of random, "hey what's up?" texts, then I suggest to send something crazy as fuck. I work in the emergency room, so it's kind of easy for me to send things like "Just extracted a vibrator from some guys ass." No kidding, this has actually happened..a few times. A message like this catches them, and they RESPOND to it. Then continue with finding out when they're free.

If you've built or know on a gut level there's attraction, then just keep it simple. Wait a few days, hit them up with a very simple text... "So when are you free next?" Whatever she answers... "Cool, let's meet for a drink at 8 at Harry's Chocolate Shop." (Harry's Chocolate Shop is a bar by the way) Just remind yourself, logistics and information. And if you want, an opening statement that really catches them off guard. I normally do this if it was a quick 10 minute...I met you at a bar/it was late/girl was drunk/didn't get the bang that night and chances are that she may not remember you. The crazy, weird, or funny text will normally get them to respond, instead of just a "hey what's up?"

All the best, and seriously try harder than ever to shed that beta shit that's been beaten into you from growing up in these times.

Post: #69

(10-10-2013 07:09 AM)Videl Wrote:  

(10-09-2013 02:41 PM)puckman Wrote:  from all this back and forth its more than obvious she likes you. now its on you to close the deal.

I don't know anymore. I'm so confused. She probably just wanted to flirt and got scared off when I asked her out (or she is really that sick). It is only a theory. I mean if she was as much crazy about me than me about her she wouldn't wait so long to answer my facebook messages. I think I'm too emotionally invested in her. I need to gain more exp if I want to pull off a girl like her.

they all flake dude, and thats the dance. you have to expect to put the work in at first, then once she falls for you after the first few interactions/lays, you can basically check out and she will chase you. But... you have to put in the up front work.

Post: #70

One last piece of advice...Always go for the bang. Being a gentleman lost me more pieces of ass when I was starting out, then going for it ever has. And agreed, never coffee or dinner dates. Go for a drink. Pick a place fairly close to your house, apartment or whatever. Suggest doing a bar hop, making your way to several bars that bring you CLOSER to where you stay. Keep escalating your contact along the way...if it's good to go for the kiss in the bar or club, then go for it. If not, when you leave the last bar which should hopefully be no more than 2 or 3 blocks from your place, then grab her fucking hand and pull her along towards it. Look her dead in the eye, and simply say "Let's get outa here." Chat about whatever the fuck comes to your mind, but for Gods sake don't give her too much time to think. If the bar is not walking distance from your place, call a cab from the bar so that when you walk out the cab is waiting. Tell them your address. Don't ask her what she wants to do. Giving a girl time to think is the last thing you want to do. That's all.

Post: #71

(10-10-2013 10:24 AM)puckman Wrote:  

(10-10-2013 07:09 AM)Videl Wrote:  

(10-09-2013 02:41 PM)puckman Wrote:  from all this back and forth its more than obvious she likes you. now its on you to close the deal.

I don't know anymore. I'm so confused. She probably just wanted to flirt and got scared off when I asked her out (or she is really that sick). It is only a theory. I mean if she was as much crazy about me than me about her she wouldn't wait so long to answer my facebook messages. I think I'm too emotionally invested in her. I need to gain more exp if I want to pull off a girl like her.

they all flake dude, and thats the dance. you have to expect to put the work in at first, then once she falls for you after the first few interactions/lays, you can basically check out and she will chase you. But... you have to put in the up front work.

That is what I want

Post: #72

(10-10-2013 10:17 AM)mbare Wrote:  Videl,

These post by you are painful to read, but a lot of us have been there one time or the other. I'm 31, so I've had enough time to be jaded, and get into a lot of shit that has changed me. You'll get there someday..hopefully. People are right though, you put her pussy on a pedestal. Bad move. The best thing you can do for your game is work on yourself, improving yourself and never give bitches a second thought. Dating a girl goes the same...Always check yourself and imagine she decided not to date you, or you found out she fucked someone else. If that thought "fucks up your world" then you're not playing the game right.

I don't care about her anymore. She didn't even took the time to respond to my question "are you doing better?" since she was ill. It is probably not going to work out between us since I acted too beta last few days. Anyway, it might strange weird but I don't regret fucking up since without making mistakes you can't grow anyway. I'm still emotionally crippled though, I was listening to daft punk while being dreamy about her. Now I can't stand that shit.

Quote:You're over analyzing your entire interaction with her, and subsequent interactions. It's going to come across as bad game/unnatural. I don't know if you can recover the chick from Belarus or not. You've made a lot of player rookie mistakes. You can follow the advice for restarting text I suppose. I'd really lay off of it for a while. If you do start it back up, always have a second option, and/or let her know you're going out with some friends for a drink and if she wants to meet up. If she doesn't respond or declines then at least you're out with another girl, or your guy friends to make the most of the night and look for new girls.

I'm guilty of that. I'm analyzing too much. That is just my personality trait I think. About restarting text. I already sent a restarting text yesterday. LOL. I'm going to leave her alone now since I don't deserve her. She deserves better.

Quote:Stop trying to have facebook conversations. Stop having text conversations. Keep that shit simple and to the point. Write half as much to them as they do you, and minimize any form of excitement. Only reciprocate excitement when they give you positive vibes. For example if they're all, "Can't wait to go out!! " Then you should be "Looking forward to seeing you...gonna be fun "

I noticed this too but was never concious of it. They go crazy over the word fun, haha.

Quote:If you've built or know on a gut level there's attraction, then just keep it simple. Wait a few days, hit them up with a very simple text... "So when are you free next?" Whatever she answers... "Cool, let's meet for a drink at 8 at Harry's Chocolate Shop." (Harry's Chocolate Shop is a bar by the way) Just remind yourself, logistics and information. And if you want, an opening statement that really catches them off guard. I normally do this if it was a quick 10 minute...I met you at a bar/it was late/girl was drunk/didn't get the bang that night and chances are that she may not remember you. The crazy, weird, or funny text will normally get them to respond, instead of just a "hey what's up?"

All the best, and seriously try harder than ever to shed that beta shit that's been beaten into you from growing up in these times.

I will try this.

Post: #73

I don't care about her anymore. She didn't even took the time to respond to my question "are you doing better?" since she was ill. It is probably not going to work out between us since I acted too beta last few days. Anyway, it might strange weird but I don't regret fucking up since without making mistakes you can't grow anyway. I'm still emotionally crippled though, I was listening to daft punk while being dreamy about her. Now I can't stand that shit.
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From now on, whenever a girl you like is feeling "sick," never text her and ask if she is okay. Just because she has a pussy doesn't mean she needs to be treated like one. You can still dig yourself out of the hole you got into. Just play the waiting game and re-engage in a few weeks. If she does not respond, move on.

It would be best if you saw her on campus while walking to class or something. If she opens, acknowledge and continue walking. You do not give a fuck.

Post: #74

Vidal, 1) dont use facebook. facebook<texting<ftf how many friends do you think she has on fb? 500? 1000? how many people in her phone texting her? way less than that. how many people talk to her face to face regularly? way less than the number of people texting her. you must stand out to make a bold impression on her. 2) texting "hey" isnt a great message to solicit a reply. adding more detail is more interesting and is more likely to pique her curiosity. asking a question that requires a response is also more likely to get a reply from a girl. once the conversation starts it is up to you to keep it fun and engaging for her. and for the love of god dont talk about homework or a test that is coming up

Post: #75

So I have seen the Belarusian girl today in Univeristy course. I didn't even notice her and didn't sit next to her. This is because she has been ignoring my last facebook msges. Last week on facebook I asked her how she was doing after she told me she was ill and she saw the msg but didn't respond. In the break we talked a little bit I don't feel anything for her anymore but I'm glad I have been through this learning process. Last time we were on the bus she had an awesome time as I explained in the OP. I had her giggling the whole trip. This afternoo I had the option to sit next to her in the bus for one hour but I intentionally avoided her on the way out by talking to my friend on the phone and taking other bus. I don't think she will return to me but it doesn't matter. It was aheavy experience but I learned from it. I put my ass on the line and asked her out but it didn't work. Something I wouldn't have dared one year ago.