Post: #51

In my opinion a 100 women is a lot for most people including me, I think most people don't understand how hard it is for the "average" guy to get notches in my experience.

Also i've never really had lots of girls in my social circle so to speak so every interaction with a girl was facilitated by me approaching etc. I really believe people at my age (20) social circle game is one of the most effective methods of getting notches in my opinion, as it gives you easy access you can approach easier and if you go out on a night out and live in the same house or go back to the same house for an after party you have someone to maybe escalate with etc

Post: #52

G hit the spot

Imagine going to a college that's 2 hours away from the beach
The temp doesn't get below 65
It's a hot spring break destination
It's a very popular tourist destination

Vs

A college in the middle of nowhere
It's below 50 every month of the school year except sept and May
People leave the state to go on SB

There were several hot spring break spots within 3 hours of school. Every 5 days for 3 months for 7 years there would be a new batch of birds migrating to these hot spots.

Imagine getting laid once every two weeks during those 7 years during those 3 months. That's 42 new lays.

Location,location

Which guy gets laid more? Actually I take that back..which guy has more opportunities to get laid more?

Post: #53

(10-08-2013 10:33 AM)Icarus Wrote:  Why not take r/K selection theory into account? It makes perfect evolutionary sense:

• r-selection consists of "spray & pray", i.e., a man tries to fuck and impregnate as many women as possible, then invests very little time and money in his children. Most children will fail, some may even die, but a few will survive and procreate profusively. Think of rats, rabbits, and über-alpha psychopaths like Genghis Khan.
  

• K-selection is the other extreme, i.e., a man chooses a woman carefully, commits to her, has few kids, and invests as much as possible in the few kids he has, to maximize the kids' chances of success. Think of decadent SWPL'ers.
  

Given that we carry in our genes the story of our ancestors, we are prone to both types of reproductive behavior. Needless to say, I suspect that RVF is populated mainly by r-types, but there may be some K-types around. Heck, I am a K-type. So, why am I here? Because I want to understand women in order to choose wisely a mother for the future fruit of my loins.

Personally, I think it would be healthy to accept the fact that not everyone here is biologically programmed to engage in r-behavior. Some want to collect 100s of notches and 10s of flags, others want to be patriarchs and have 3 kids and spend the next 20 years raising them to be good people. There's enough room for both types. The friction begins when K-types start chastising r-types, and r-types start ridiculing K-types.

More interestingly, men will probably oscillate between the two extremes. The transition from one type of behavior to the other must be triggered by testosterone, I suspect.

This is an interesting post.

I think someone posted a while back something similar about introverted and extroverted players or something like that.

The introverted players gravitate to online dating, Okstupid, Plenty of Shrimp etc and avoid going to bars and clubs etc.

The extroverted guys are more into bars, clubs, locking places down etc.

I think we need to recognize the difference and it will help us all get along better and understand our point of views.

Bottom line, we all come from different backgrounds and have different ages and experiences.

A 20 year old in Zanesville is going to have a hard time relating to a guy who has spent 15+ years going out in Las Vegas, Southern California, NYC and Miami Beach at high end nightclubs.

But remember, we are all on the same team here.

Post: #54

Mid 20s. 100+ notches. 90% night game (zero online).

I stopped counting.. I dont remember their names, faces or even details. Lots of girls swooped near black-out drunk.

I swooped so many Asian girls in SF, that I re-swooped a girl and had no idea until she told me.

Why is G-man getting so much flak? Stack paper, dress nice, keep your body in shape, and talk to girls. Its not rocket science.

Not much "game advice" helps me, but his did.The suit is worth its weight in gold.

Post: #55

Quote:A 20 year old in Zanesville is going to have a hard time relating to a guy who has spent 15+ years going out in Las Vegas, Southern California, NYC and Miami Beach at high end nightclubs.

Depends on the guy. Small town Ohio is gold. Right next to Zanesville is West Zanesville then next to that and on and on. I'd rather be there than LA doing this shit because everyone is off guard. Forget bottle service and all that bullshit I'm talking real road warrior fast in and out destruction of local bars.

Post: #56

^^To be fair, I haven't payed for bottle service once this year. Its not that hard to get on comped bottles in LA. 25% of the club is drinking for free (girls, promoters and those in the know).

Its not hard to give away alcohol for free to girls, and yet some people in LA can't even do that right. How are they going to swoop hot young ass? No sympathy from me....

Post: #57

(10-08-2013 11:20 AM)DVY Wrote:  ^^To be fair, I haven't payed for bottle service once this year. Its not that hard to get on comped bottles in LA. 25% of the club is drinking for free (girls, promoters and those in the know).

Its not hard to give away alcohol for free to girls, and yet some people in LA can't even do that right. How are they going to swoop hot young ass? No sympathy from me....

I'm really shocked you're not one of the sexy six.

Post: #58

(10-08-2013 12:17 AM)deathtofatties Wrote:  The more these people drop numbers, the less I can believe them or care. It's like starting a thread about how long your dick is.

If you actually have the numbers, good for you, but use some tact. Instead of just dropping a number, you should give specific, painstaking details on how you got there (each one) and the quality of each notch. We want game advice, not egos. Keep it within the context of GAME.

Share with us your failures too, not just your successes. That way you are believable, because no one reaches any success without a number of failures. Even Roosh admits to us when he's having trouble in a certain country or having a short dryspell, and that's why we listen to him and trust him. He tells the bloody truth.

Some of us are really fighting tooth and nail for quality notches, so you number droppers are flat out disrespecting us all.

I banged about 30 girls in the past year, mostly in SE Asia (where I spent 7 months) but also a couple in Mexico (2 weeks) and a couple in Canada (industrial shit hole where competition is fierce and my home town where pulling is easy). I rate myself as having moderate game, I'm average looking, below average height and I don't dress all that well, however, I have been traveling around the world and banging foreign women since I was 16 so its nothing new too me.

I'd say that objectively, my target demographic of women are 6s in their late teens to late 20s, I bang the odd 7 but sometimes end up taking home a 5. I've also met up with several forum members such as Rionomad, THC, 20nation, Fisto, etc and they've seen some of the girls I've banged in the past year and I dare say that they also think that these girls passed the proverbial boner test.

I basically run the same game anywhere I am: I go out to bars and clubs and get really drunk and talk to girls, of course I get rejected, get numbers that lead nowhere and have the odd blow out (like everyone else) but it works for me. I'm definitely nothing special, but if you have the funds to travel and the tolerance to go out boozing hard a few times a week, I believe that anyone can do this.

Post: #59

Oh wow, I am feeling a bit left out here guys. I have some 15 notches, but taking into account my age and my country, I'd say it's not that bad. And the fact that I only aim 7 and above too, I am above average in terms of looks, not that tall, I dress quite well, I'm a bit of a vain guy actually, I dress for myself and not really for them. I tend to value flags over notches, I have more foreign flags than notches in my own country at this young age which tells quite a bit. When I get financially independent I will invest more in these fields, the minimum number is 100 notches and 50 flags, I think it's quite reasonable, the notches part is not that hard, the flags part is a bit more.

Post: #60

I banged 100 women just last night.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #61

I remember when I was 20, I had 13 notches at the time. I remember because I got into a 6 year LTR shortly after.

Anyways, I was heading to a party with my buddy who was a year older than me. This guy was a natural with women. Tall, good looking, great football and basketball player, super confident, etc. He told me he fucked 100 girls. I immediately called him out as a liar. I couldn't fathom how someone could bang 100 girls at 21 years old.

Looking back, that same dude has been married for quite a few years, but has probably banged 250 girls. Maybe more. 100% sure he banged 100 chicks by the time he told me that. I just couldn't believe it at the time, and didn't want to believe it. Half jealousy, half not having the experience to be able to understand something like that was even possible.

Dumbass kid I was. I should have partied with him more often and followed his lead.

Post: #62

100 girls for the average guy would be like 10 years of short term relationships, fuck buddies and one night stands. That's assuming he doesn't get p whipped. Once that happens it's usually the end.

Post: #63

Location is king. Getting 100 notches in SEA is like making 30K in the USA.

But that's another point: Who is to say all notches are created equal? I'd take 30 white girls over 100 asian girls.

I'd also rather stay in 6 nights a week to read and do work even if it means I get 80% fewer notches. There's way too much obsession with some guys of getting laid. At the end of the day, once you've sealed the deal you've just lost a part of your life and it's not coming back.

Post: #64

Definitely location....

Man, I've gotten to the point where I'm closing 20% of girls I approach, ~30-40% of them are not single, and the rest are rejections. Odds are in my favor. How many opportunities do I get? Man, not nearly enough. The rejections I get are usually a result of my age... 22 and still setting up my career is not where a 25 to 30 y/o wants to delve. The girls younger than that are still in high school; I'm for sure getting better with them, closed two in the past couple weeks that set a new bar for me on the hotness scale. However, the opportunities are still limited. Living in a city, not so much a college town. No money for clubs/bars; I focus on daygame and have high success rates in daygame. There's just not enough opportunities around a city to meet many girls though if I'm also trying to build my career.

That said, ~15 notches at 22 seems good enough for me. Quality over quantity... and lifestyle over girls. Not gonna get where I want in life focusing on the girls.

Looking at the average guy, 4 notches is high. There's guys in my old frat house that landed 1 or 2 in a year. With opportunities abounding. Not all that high in quality either. Yep, I was one of them at the time. It's guys that push themselves to become more than average that 100+ seems quite reasonable and feasible.

Post: #65

(10-08-2013 12:51 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Location is king. Getting 100 notches in SEA is like making 30K in the USA.

But that's another point: Who is to say all notches are created equal? I'd take 30 white girls over 100 asian girls.

I'd also rather stay in 6 nights a week to read and do work even if it means I get 80% fewer notches. There's way too much obsession with some guys of getting laid. At the end of the day, once you've sealed the deal you've just lost a part of your life and it's not coming back.

I guess we can count SEA girls as 1/3rd of a person. What's 50 white chicks plus 50 SEA girls divided by 3? One was a South Korean who lives in Canada, maybe we give her .5?

I'd happily give you 30 white chicks for 100 Asians. We're gonna have to work out a trade.

Post: #66

(10-08-2013 12:30 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  I remember when I was 20, I had 13 notches at the time. I remember because I got into a 6 year LTR shortly after.

Anyways, I was heading to a party with my buddy who was a year older than me. This guy was a natural with women. Tall, good looking, great football and basketball player, super confident, etc. He told me he fucked 100 girls. I immediately called him out as a liar. I couldn't fathom how someone could bang 100 girls at 21 years old.

Yeah, a couple of my best friends passed the hundred mark while we were still in college. I was doing too shabby but they had waaaay more natural game than me.

Both are married with children now.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #67

(10-08-2013 01:03 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(10-08-2013 12:51 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Location is king. Getting 100 notches in SEA is like making 30K in the USA.

But that's another point: Who is to say all notches are created equal? I'd take 30 white girls over 100 asian girls.

I'd also rather stay in 6 nights a week to read and do work even if it means I get 80% fewer notches. There's way too much obsession with some guys of getting laid. At the end of the day, once you've sealed the deal you've just lost a part of your life and it's not coming back.

I guess we can count SEA girls as 1/3rd of a person. What's 50 white chicks plus 50 SEA girls divided by 3? One was a South Korean who lives in Canada, maybe we give her .5?

I'd happily give you 30 white chicks for 100 Asians. We're gonna have to work out a trade.

Fair trade?

3 asian girls:







for one white girl:

Post: #68

(10-08-2013 11:20 AM)DVY Wrote:  ^^To be fair, I haven't payed for bottle service once this year. Its not that hard to get on comped bottles in LA. 25% of the club is drinking for free (girls, promoters and those in the know).

Its not hard to give away alcohol for free to girls, and yet some people in LA can't even do that right. How are they going to swoop hot young ass? No sympathy from me....

Agreed.

I have paid for bottle service once in the last 10 years probably.

And that was in Mexico City. And the girls I was with split it with me.

Ended up being cheap.

Post: #69

(10-07-2013 08:22 PM)Fisto Wrote:  One girl I'm seeing asked me how many girls I've been with and I just laughed. She goes "I bet more than 20". I laughed again. "Is that right??"

I think girls were harder to bang when I was between 18-25 in general. I had slept with something like 11 girls in 4 years of highschool and people in my class thought that was unreal. Now I bet that's common for a guy in his sophomore year (all things being equal).

Girls have definitely gotten sluttier on average.

To be honest, I think that is still a very high notch count for a guy leaving high school. I'm on 4 (starting my last year) and thats one of the highest in my school year. In fact the highest out of anyone at my school is 5 and a bunch of his were 5's. The average guy bangs 8 girls in his whole life, so you were 1.5x higher before you were even an adult.

Post: #70

Samseau,
30 white chicks for 100 asians? Maybe you're talking about Asian chicks in the US. But it's a whole different ball game in Asia!

Have you been to SEA? Or are you just posting that out of preconceptions and cliches? If you were in SEA, you would not make such an uninformed and derogatory comment. Once you see an Asian girl in Asia, you will never look at a white girl anymore. Unless said white girl is Slavic/Russian or a beautiful latina/brasileira. Even better, after being with an Asian girl in Asia, there's absolutely no way to go back to a white girl in NA.

Just like the G posted, it's all about location. Some guys may see 1 hottie every other day, some 1 every month, some 1 every 6 months while some may see 10 by 10 am. Spend any time in SEA Asia and you will see more hotties in an hour than probably in an entire year where you are.

Take a stroll on the Sky Train in BKK or in any of the shopping malls in town and you will have a headache. Schools of sexy, feminine, fashionable, girls with creamy white skin and black silky hair. Dressed to the nine, wearing heels, short shorts, or skin tight dresses.

Go take a stroll any time of the day or night in the Tian he section in Guangzhou, China and you will see a sea of Chinese dolls all around you, dressed to the T.

Go to Tokyo and you will feel you have died and gone to heaven. Even more so, go Shibuya or Ginza and your head will explode due to the sheer mass volume of 8's, 9's and 10's, dressed to kill.

And I'm not even mentioning HKG or Manila. One could also add Jakarta or Saigon or Shanghai, Beijing or Shenzen or Seoul or Ulaan Baatar as easily.

I can bet everything that once you've been with an Asian girl in Asia, it'll be next to impossible to go back to a white chick ever again. Unless it's a Slavic/Russian or Latina. You will see and understand what I'm talking about once you start traveling to these places and seeing and experiencing them yourself.

Post: #71

How much?

Jokes asides, you better bust out a data sheet homie!

(10-08-2013 11:55 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  I banged 100 women just last night.

Post: #72

(10-08-2013 02:01 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  How much?

Jokes asides, you better bust out a data sheet homie!

(10-08-2013 11:55 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  I banged 100 women just last night.

If we left the jokes aside, that would be one boring-ass data sheet, VP. lol

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #73

I'm more concerned with "i'm fucking girl(s)" than "i have fucked x girls".

Post: #74

(10-08-2013 01:22 PM)Soma Wrote:  Fair trade?

3 asian girls:

I'd lost my taste for Asian women over the last few years, but keep posting shit like this and you're gonna give me yellow fever real quick. That last one I'd munch for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

After reading through the comments I have to revise my earlier opinion. I guess 100 is not that big a deal if you've dedicated years of your life to going out and getting laid. Starting at 21(if you're in the US), assuming you don't look like Quasimoto, if you hit nightlife hard for a decade, have decent game and solid logistics, 10 new notches a year is pretty realistic. That's one a month allowing for 2 dry spell months a year.

The caveat is, few guys live that kind of lifestyle. Many will end up in relationships here and there and get taken off the market, get lost in the trap of video games and porn, or just have other more important things going on their life and can't be out constantly chasing girls.

I would still say that 100 is far from "nothing". I'd say it's very possible if you have a decade at least to dedicate to it. Of course that's not every man's thing and some guys just want a nice steady chic to come home to. And that's cool too.

We should not underestimate though how difficult it is for an average guy to get laid consistently outside of being in a relationship. For a good many guys(maybe even the majority) sex doesn't happen for them unless they have a girlfriend or they are paying for it.

Post: #75

(10-08-2013 08:40 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(10-08-2013 07:39 AM)frenchie Wrote:  Most guys never break 10. If you have 15, that puts you probably in the top 75%, 30 definitely 95th percentile, any higher and you're in the top 10% of dudes that sleeps with 90% of the women. No doubt, if the pill wasn't around you would have sired many children.

You should be proud of 20+ notches. Most guys never top that.

It is really like anything.

Most guys never pull into barrel. (Or hell, even stand up).

Most guys will never be able to box 4 rounds with a professional fighter. (Or hell, 30 seconds).

Most guys will never have a Custom Suit made.

Most guys will never squat XXXX pounds.

Most guys will never make $200,000 or $2 million in a year.

Most guys will never leave America.

I say it time and time again, if you do the opposite of "most guys", you are on the right track.

You have to put in work if you want results.